
Transforming Trauma
In-depth conversations about how to help individuals and communities thrive after Complex Trauma. In a modern world beset by trauma and a legacy of suffering, conflict and disconnection, healing trauma can serve as a vehicle for personal and social transformation. Interviews with mental health and other helping professionals who are using the NeuroAffective Relational Model® (NARM®), as well as other prominent trauma specialists, will highlight the current efforts to address the legacy of childhood, relational, cultural and intergenerational trauma. These leaders in the Trauma-Informed Care movement will guide listeners through the diverse ways they are supporting individuals, couples, families and communities in order to actualize Post-Traumatic Growth. Whether you are a healthcare professional, an educator, a parent, a public policy maker, a trauma survivor, or someone interested in personal healing and social justice; this podcast will provide you with a map for increased resiliency, greater health outcomes, healthier relationships, personal growth and social change through transforming trauma. Hosted by the Complex Trauma Training Center.
Latest episodes

Feb 8, 2023 • 38min
Ancestral Trauma, Health and Well-Being with Tina Sacks, PhD.
Tina Sacks, PhD., is an associate professor in the School of Social Welfare at the University of California, Berkeley. Her fields of interest include racial inequities in health, social determinants of health, and poverty and inequality; in other words, how people’s experience of being othered affects their overall well-being. Tina’s professional work emerges from her own experience of being othered as a mixed-raced person and member of the Black and Jewish community. At the core of her work is the idea that love is really what matters and that we must care for one another as humans. Tina reflects on her familial history and experience, discusses the roots of her focus on racial and gender inequities in healthcare, and proudly shares her sense of survivorship. About Tina Sacks: Tina Sacks, PhD, is an associate professor in the School of Social Welfare at the University of California, Berkeley. She studies racial and gender inequities in healthcare settings, social determinants of health, and poverty and inequality. Professor Sacks' work has been published in Race and Social Problems, Health Affairs, and MSNBC News. Professor Sacks also frequently collaborates with the photographer and filmmaker Carlos Javier Ortiz on documentary film projects about issues affecting Black and Latino communities in the US and abroad. Their films have appeared in the Tribeca, AFI, and LA International Film Festivals, among others. Their work has also been published in The New Yorker and The Atlantic. Her recent book Invisible Visits, Black Middle-Class Women in the American Healthcare System, published by Oxford University Press, is now available. Learn More: Website - Tina K. Sacks, PhD Book - Invisible Visits, Black Middle-Class Women in the American Healthcare System Other News & Publications To read the full show notes and discover more resources visit https://www.narmtraining.com/podcast *** NARM Training Institute https://www.NARMtraining.com View upcoming trainings: https://narmtraining.com/schedule Join the Inner Circle: https://narmtraining.com/online-learning/inner-circle Sign up for a free preview of The NARM Inner Circle Online Membership Program: https://www.narmtraining.com/freetrial *** The NARM Training Institute provides tools for transforming complex trauma through: in-person and online trainings for mental health care professionals; in-person and online workshops on complex trauma and how it interplays with areas like addiction, parenting, and cultural trauma; an online self-paced learning program, the NARM Inner Circle; and other trauma-informed learning resources. We want to connect with you! Facebook @NARMtraining YouTube Instagram @thenarmtraininginstitute

Jan 25, 2023 • 50min
The Role of Spirituality in Complex Trauma Healing with Dr. Diane Poole Heller and Dr. Laurence Heller
Dr. Diane Poole Heller is an established expert in the field of trauma resolution, with extensive experience in spiritual exploration. Diane joins NARM Creator Dr. Laurence Heller for an evocative conversation about trauma and spirituality. Diane and Larry discuss how spiritual work has impacted their personal and professional lives, sharing the perspective on treating the whole person - mind, body and spirit. As internationally respected trauma experts, Diane and Larry also emphasize spiritual connection as a guide for practitioners to help themselves and their clients in the healing process. About Dr. Diane Poole Heller: Dr. Diane Poole Heller is an established expert in the field of trauma resolution, with 30 years of experience in spiritual exploration. Dr. Heller began her work with Peter Levine, founder of Somatic Experiencing, in 1989 and has served on the SE Trauma Institute teaching team since 1992. Diane has created a highly successful series of media resources, and as a dynamic speaker and teacher, Diane has been featured at international seminars and conferences. Diane is co-author of the book Crash Course as well as numerous articles in the field. Diane is also president of Trauma Solutions, a psychotherapy training organization. Learn More: Trauma Solutions Experiential Training for Clinicians Book - The Power of Attachment: How to Create Deep and Lasting Intimate Relationships Book - Crash Course: A Self-Healing Guide to Auto Accident Trauma Recovery DARe Approach To read the full show notes and discover more resources visit https://www.narmtraining.com/podcast *** NARM Training Institute https://www.NARMtraining.com View upcoming trainings: https://narmtraining.com/schedule Join the Inner Circle: https://narmtraining.com/online-learning/inner-circle Sign up for a free preview of The NARM Inner Circle Online Membership Program: https://www.narmtraining.com/freetrial *** The NARM Training Institute provides tools for transforming complex trauma through: in-person and online trainings for mental health care professionals; in-person and online workshops on complex trauma and how it interplays with areas like addiction, parenting, and cultural trauma; an online self-paced learning program, the NARM Inner Circle; and other trauma-informed learning resources. We want to connect with you! Facebook @NARMtraining YouTube Instagram @thenarmtraininginstitute

Jan 11, 2023 • 55min
Cultural Animation and Applied Human Ecology with Anthony Twig Wheeler
Anthony “Twig” Wheeler is a Trauma Specialist, Environmentalist, Performance Artist, Applied Human Ecologist, Cultural Animator, Consultant, Educator, and so much more. His interest in resolving societal conflicts and being introduced to Peter Levine’s work of Somatic Experiencing guided him to branch out into different areas of trauma. While Twig’s interests led him to various studies - such as evolutionary, somatic, and ecological psychology, and environmental and cultural anthropology -, his own therapy created his focus for advocacy and translating the work for the world as best he can. Twig and Brad share their early experiences learning about somatic psychology and reflect on the evolving understanding of complex trauma. Twig also describes what being a Cultural Animator is all about. About Anthony “Twig” Wheeler: Anthony Twig Wheeler specializes in restoring a participatory relationship between humans and their nature - how to enjoy our biology rather than hate it. As a Somatic Experiencing Practitioner and trauma expert, Twig works with individuals, groups, and helping care professionals. As an Applied Human Ecologist, he works toward an articulation of the evolutionarily established needs of our species. As a Performance Artist and Cultural Animator, Twig translates his social observation and research for general public audiences to enliven, inspire and catalyze action for good living, respect of self and others, and engagement with biodiversity. With his studies and a strong background in social change and ecological preservation efforts, widespread travel, and years spent mastering the wilderness living arts, Twig has developed an unusual appreciation of the human species and modern human condition. Learn More: Liberation is Possible Website Twig’s Public Projects StressLess Guide Twig’s SE Reflections for Practitioners To read the full show notes and discover more resources visit https://www.narmtraining.com/podcast *** NARM Training Institute https://www.NARMtraining.com View upcoming trainings: https://narmtraining.com/schedule Join the Inner Circle: https://narmtraining.com/online-learning/inner-circle Sign up for a free preview of The NARM Inner Circle Online Membership Program: https://www.narmtraining.com/freetrial *** The NARM Training Institute provides tools for transforming complex trauma through: in-person and online trainings for mental health care professionals; in-person and online workshops on complex trauma and how it interplays with areas like addiction, parenting, and cultural trauma; an online self-paced learning program, the NARM Inner Circle; and other trauma-informed learning resources. We want to connect with you! Facebook @NARMtraining YouTube Instagram @thenarmtraininginstitute

Jan 3, 2023 • 48min
Reflecting on a Growing Training Institute with NARM Faculty Brad Kammer, Stefanie Klein, and Marcia Black
Transforming Trauma is kicking off 2023 with NARM Faculty Brad Kammer, Stefanie Klein, and Marcia Black exploring the past year's challenges, learnings, successes, and growth. Part of building an intentional organization committed to healing complex trauma is taking the time for self-reflection, self-awareness, and relational sharing about learning and challenges — but also pausing to celebrate the successes. Looking back on 2022, the NARM Faculty feels an overwhelming sense of gratitude and appreciation for the whole NARM community, from the heartful way participants are showing up in the trainings, to the enthusiastic support for the NARM Book release, to all the different learning events and opportunities for being together. About the NARM Faculty: Brad Kammer is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist and Professional Clinical Counselor and has worked in the field of trauma for over 20 years. As a NARM Trainer and Training Director, Brad is passionate about contributing to the growing trauma-informed movement. He is also the co-author of The Practical Guide for Healing Developmental Trauma. Stefanie Klein is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker and has spent 22 years in her Los Angeles private practice. As a NARM Trainer and Assistant Training Director, Stefanie is excited to share the NARM approach with anyone looking to have more ease and efficacy in their practice. Marcia Black is a Licensed Clinical Psychologist and has been in private practice for over 35 years in San Francisco and the East Bay area, specializing in treating complex and developmental trauma and other psychological conditions. As a NARM Faculty Member, Marcia is dedicated to supporting not only the participants’ development, but also the Trainers and Institute as a whole. Learn More: What is NARM? NARM Books NARM Trainings To read the full show notes and discover more resources visit https://www.narmtraining.com/podcast *** NARM Training Institute https://www.NARMtraining.com View upcoming trainings: https://narmtraining.com/schedule Join the Inner Circle: https://narmtraining.com/online-learning/inner-circle Sign up for a free preview of The NARM Inner Circle Online Membership Program: https://www.narmtraining.com/freetrial *** The NARM Training Institute provides tools for transforming complex trauma through: in-person and online trainings for mental health care professionals; in-person and online workshops on complex trauma and how it interplays with areas like addiction, parenting, and cultural trauma; an online self-paced learning program, the NARM Inner Circle; and other trauma-informed learning resources. We want to connect with you! Facebook @NARMtraining YouTube Instagram @thenarmtraininginstitute

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Jan 1, 2023 • 49min
NARM Inner Circle Presents: NARM & Heartfulness with Dr. Laurence Heller and Brad Kammer
Dr. Laurence Heller and Brad Kammer discuss NARM & Heartfulness, emphasizing reconnecting with the heart in healing from trauma, the impact of early loss on shutting down emotions, and integrating heartfulness into therapeutic processes.

Dec 28, 2022 • 34min
End of Year NARM Reflections with Emily Ruth and Brad Kammer
Host Emily Ruth and NARM Senior Trainer Brad Kammer reflect on Transforming Trauma in 2022, revisiting memorable and favorite moments. Emily and Brad recall their conversations with “big names” in the field, such as Dr. Stephen Porges, Daniel Shaw, Dr. Sandra Bloom, Dr. David Wallin, Dr. Nancy McWilliams, and Judge Abby Abinati who spoke powerfully about trauma-informed work in indigenous communities, and her work supporting community-based and trauma-informed Tribal Court. They look back on interviews with the NARM Community, including Dr. Jennifer Vasquez, who shared her doctoral dissertation, Meaning Making: Understanding Professional Quality of Life for NARM Trained Trauma Therapists, and Isaac Samuelson, who talked about the joy of a Queer identity. Most memorable is the episode Authenticity, Freedom and Living more Intentionally, where Brad’s student, Bill Lokey, shared about moving into the last phase of life. Learn More: Transforming Trauma Podcast - All Episodes To read the full show notes and discover more resources visit https://www.narmtraining.com/podcast *** NARM Training Institute https://www.NARMtraining.com View upcoming trainings: https://narmtraining.com/schedule Join the Inner Circle: https://narmtraining.com/online-learning/inner-circle Sign up for a free preview of The NARM Inner Circle Online Membership Program: https://www.narmtraining.com/freetrial *** The NARM Training Institute provides tools for transforming complex trauma through: in-person and online trainings for mental health care professionals; in-person and online workshops on complex trauma and how it interplays with areas like addiction, parenting, and cultural trauma; an online self-paced learning program, the NARM Inner Circle; and other trauma-informed learning resources. We want to connect with you! Facebook @NARMtraining YouTube Instagram @thenarmtraininginstitute

Dec 14, 2022 • 60min
The Complex Relational Dynamics of Cancel Culture with Clementine Morrigan
Clementine Morrigan is a writer, podcaster, socialist, and trauma educator. Clementine embodies their teaching, sharing, and perspective in courageous trauma-informed work, specifically addressing the shame-based dynamics of what is presently referred to as "cancel culture." They strongly advocate for a new understanding of the dynamics of cancel culture, elaborating how publicly canceling fellow human beings impacts individuals and communities. Clementine shares about the psychological impact on individuals and how trauma-informed therapists can play a role in individual healing and relational repair. They present the concept of the "Nexus," a synthesis of identitarianism, social media, and cancel culture, and the traumatogenic nature of this synthesis. About: Clementine Morrigan has been writing and publishing for over 20 years, having written several zines and books. They are also a podcaster as one half of the podcast F-ing Cancelled. They're the creator of the popular Trauma Informed Polyamory workshop and several other workshops. She is a trauma educator, an opposer of cancel culture, a sex educator, a person living with complex PTSD, a sober alcoholic, and a proud dog mom to Clover "the dog" Morrigan. Learn More: clementinemorrigan.com patreon.com/clementinemorrigan f-ingcancelled.libsyn.com To read the full show notes and discover more resources visit https://www.narmtraining.com/podcast *** NARM Training Institute https://www.NARMtraining.com View upcoming trainings: https://narmtraining.com/schedule Join the Inner Circle: https://narmtraining.com/online-learning/inner-circle Sign up for a free preview of The NARM Inner Circle Online Membership Program: https://www.narmtraining.com/freetrial *** The NARM Training Institute provides tools for transforming complex trauma through: in-person and online trainings for mental health care professionals; in-person and online workshops on complex trauma and how it interplays with areas like addiction, parenting, and cultural trauma; an online self-paced learning program, the NARM Inner Circle; and other trauma-informed learning resources. We want to connect with you! Facebook @NARMtraining YouTube Instagram @thenarmtraininginstitute

Nov 30, 2022 • 41min
The Importance of Helping Professionals Doing Their Own Trauma Work with Laura Reagan
Laura Reagan is an Integrative Trauma Therapist, founder of the Trauma Therapist Network, and host of the Therapy Chat podcast. Laura is dedicated to helping therapists become more skilled in trauma and attachment work by exploring their own inner worlds. Her current focus is similar to the direction of the NARM Training Institute: building a supportive therapeutic community and combating the isolation of trauma work. Along her personal journey and through clinical work with clients who experienced childhood abuse, Laura has learned that trauma shows up differently and often in ways that may not traditionally be considered trauma. She highlights that a therapist’s blind spots typically point to their own pain spots. If left unaddressed, it could lead to missed opportunities for healing. About: Laura Reagan, LCSW-C, is an Integrative Trauma Therapist, coach, and consultant who hosts the Therapy Chat Podcast. She is the founder of the Trauma Therapist Network, a resource for learning how trauma and attachment wounds show up in our lives and finding help and resources. Laura is passionate about spreading the message that trauma is real, healing is possible, and help is available. Learn More: Trauma Therapist Network - www.traumatherapistnetwork.com Therapy Chat Podcast - Facebook, Instagram, Twitter To read the full show notes and discover more resources visit https://www.narmtraining.com/podcast *** The NARM Training Institute https://www.NARMtraining.com View upcoming trainings: https://narmtraining.com/schedule Join the Inner Circle: https://narmtraining.com/online-learning/inner-circle Sign up for a free preview of The NARM Inner Circle Online Membership Program: https://www.narmtraining.com/freetrial *** The NARM Training Institute provides tools for transforming complex trauma through: in-person and online trainings for mental health care professionals; in-person and online workshops on complex trauma and how it interplays with areas like addiction, parenting, and cultural trauma; an online self-paced learning program, the NARM Inner Circle; and other trauma-informed learning resources. We want to connect with you! Facebook @NARMtraining YouTube Instagram @thenarmtraininginstitute

Nov 16, 2022 • 52min
Authenticity, Freedom, and Living More Intentionally with Bill Lokey
Bill Lokey is a former Clinical Director and Licensed Senior Psychological Examiner out of the Nashville area and current NARM trainee. Bill speaks openly about his cancer journey, how he is attempting to live each day to its fullest, and how NARM is supporting him in his current phase of life. He reflects on his process of becoming a psychotherapist and how he wanted to touch people’s lives, realizing that beyond academic and clinical training, receiving therapy was a big part of this process. Bill attributes the success of his personal and professional relationship with his wife, Laurie, to their ongoing recovery work on their own. Together, they embody their intention for their clients: to “awaken to truth and freedom.” About Bill Lokey: Bill Lokey — MA, LSPE, CTT, and CET-II — is most renowned as a husband to Laurie, a father, and grandfather. Formerly a Clinical Director and Licensed Senior Psychological Examiner, he now gives presentations about trauma, rising through adversity, overcoming codependency, and connection in relationships. Along with his wife, Laurie, Bill conducts engaging experiential workshops for couples and large organizations. His personal relationship with God is the thing that sustains him and his family through hardship and guides them in abundance. Learn More: https://billandlaurielokey.com/ To read the full show notes and discover more resources visit https://www.narmtraining.com/podcast *** NARM Training Institute https://www.NARMtraining.com View upcoming trainings: https://narmtraining.com/schedule Join the Inner Circle: https://narmtraining.com/online-learning/inner-circle *** The NARM Training Institute provides tools for transforming complex trauma through: in-person and online trainings for mental health care professionals; in-person and online workshops on complex trauma and how it interplays with areas like addiction, parenting, and cultural trauma; an online self-paced learning program, the NARM Inner Circle; and other trauma-informed learning resources. We want to connect with you! Facebook @NARMtraining YouTube Instagram @thenarmtraininginstitute

Nov 9, 2022 • 23min
BONUS: Sneak Peek of the NARM Audiobook - The Practical Guide for Healing Developmental Trauma, with co-author Brad Kammer
Brad Kammer, NARM Senior Faculty, shares an excerpt on the NARM Emotional Completion Model and disidentification from the highly anticipated audiobook The Practical Guide for Healing Developmental Trauma: Using the NeuroAffective Relational Model to Address Adverse Childhood Experiences and Resolve Complex Trauma. This audiobook was released on November 8th, 2022, on Audible and other audiobook services. The book provides helping professionals with the theoretical background and practical skills to assist clients in transforming complex trauma using the Neuro Affective Relational Model (NARM). Utilizing therapeutic examples, case studies, and exercises, the authors demonstrate how NARM can be a catalyst for clients or anyone seeking healing and growth to feel more fully alive and become more fully human. If you’re interested in reading or listening to the book, we encourage you to order your copy today! Please visit www.narmtraining.com/books for more information and to view available online retailers. About Brad Kammer: Brad Kammer, LMFT, LPCC, is a Somatic Psychotherapist. He has worked in the field of trauma for over 20 years, specializing in Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs) and Complex Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (C-PTSD). Brad is a NARM Master Therapist, Consultant, and Faculty Trainer. To read the full show notes and discover more resources visit https://www.narmtraining.com/podcast *** NARM Training Institute https://www.NARMtraining.com View upcoming trainings: https://narmtraining.com/schedule Join the Inner Circle: https://narmtraining.com/online-learning/inner-circle *** The NARM Training Institute provides tools for transforming complex trauma through: in-person and online trainings for mental health care professionals; in-person and online workshops on complex trauma and how it interplays with areas like addiction, parenting, and cultural trauma; an online self-paced learning program, the NARM Inner Circle; and other trauma-informed learning resources. We want to connect with you! Facebook @NARMtraining YouTube Instagram @thenarmtraininginstitute