Transforming Trauma

Brad Kammer, Senior Faculty and Training Director of the NARM Training Institute, is joined by Lara Eisenberg. Lara is a bilingual licensed professional clinical counselor, Somatic Experiencing Practitioner, and women's spirituality and sexuality therapist. Lara shares that her lived experiences informed much of her work including witnessing violence in her community and her home, and also the oppression she has experienced because of her Jewish ethnicity. Lara and Brad explore together their shared view on complex trauma healing which supports individuals to move from experiencing themselves as an object to a subject. Lara explains how objectification of women in American society disconnects a woman from her own pleasure and body and that through somatic work, a woman can be supported to embody and to connect back to herself and her pleasure.  Lara embodies this natural pride of the sacred feminine and models it for the women she works with in her life. About Laura: Lara is a Bilingual (English/Spanish) Licensed Professional Clinical Counselor and Women’s Spirituality and Sexuality Coach. She is the owner of Body Mind Wellness--a private virtual somatic psychotherapy and coaching practice specializing in developmental trauma, anxiety, depression, ancestral healing, sexuality and spirituality.  She incorporates ritual and trauma informed touch in her work with clients. Learn more: http://mybodymindwellness.com/ https://www.laraeisenberg.com/  https://www.facebook.com/mybodymindwellness /       https://www.instagram.com/lara.eisenberg/ To read the full show notes and discover more resources visit http://www.narmtraining.com/podcast *** NARM Training Institute http://www.NARMtraining.com View upcoming trainings: https://narmtraining.com/schedule Join the Inner Circle: https://narmtraining.com/online-learning/inner-circle *** The NARM Training Institute provides tools for transforming complex trauma through: in-person and online trainings for mental health care professionals; in-person and online workshops on complex trauma and how it interplays with areas like addiction, parenting, and cultural trauma; an online self-paced learning program, the NARM Inner Circle; and other trauma-informed learning resources.   We want to connect with you! Facebook @NARMtraining Twitter @NARMtraining YouTube Instagram @thenarmtraininginstitute

Brad Kammer talks with Dr. Martin Lemon, a clinical psychologist who has been practicing in Chicago's western suburbs for more than 25 years. Dr. Lemon’s work focuses on the psychology of men and male identity. Dr. Lemon shares how he integrates NARM into his work, both conceptually and in practice.  Brad and Dr. Lemon also discuss their own personal experiences of trauma in the context of what is often called “toxic masculinity”. Dr. Lemon began facilitating men’s groups to promote an opportunity for deeper connection between men. Dr. Lemon encourages the men in his group to be curious, reflective, and to allow space for one another to open up in a deeper way, beyond more surface-level connection. Since being trained in NARM, Dr. Lemon has incorporated what in NARM is called “contracting”, meaning asking what the participants want for themselves out of the group meeting. He also is guided internally by the NARM framework and shares about how he is better able to hold the complexity of the group versus only aligning with a “positive” position.  Dr. Lemon shares that healthy vulnerability is the key to a deeper relationship with others as well as with oneself. Deepening one’s capacity for vulnerability seems to be the antidote to toxic masculinity. To read the full show notes and discover more resources visit http://www.narmtraining.com/podcast *** NARM Training Institute http://www.NARMtraining.com View upcoming trainings: https://narmtraining.com/schedule Join the Inner Circle: https://narmtraining.com/online-learning/inner-circle *** The NARM Training Institute provides tools for transforming complex trauma through: in-person and online trainings for mental health care professionals; in-person and online workshops on complex trauma and how it interplays with areas like addiction, parenting, and cultural trauma; an online self-paced learning program, the NARM Inner Circle; and other trauma-informed learning resources.   We want to connect with you! Facebook @NARMtraining Twitter @NARMtraining YouTube Instagram @thenarmtraininginstitute

This extraordinary conversation between mind-body physician and author Dr. Lissa Rankin, MD, and NARM creator Dr. Laurence Heller, PhD. centers around healing through the integration of western and non-western healing modalities. Dr. Rankin believes that to optimize healing it takes an integrated approach between the sciences, traumatology, spirituality, and collective healing.  Dr. Heller acknowledges the powerful overlap between these approaches, and more specifically shares how science is now validating the various forms of complex trauma that NARM addresses, for example, working with pre and perinatal trauma. Dr. Rankin reflects on her own experiences with developmental trauma. She distinguishes the type of trauma she experienced compared to the trauma that was assessed in the ACES study. She further explains that despite having an ACE score of 0, she still believes she experienced developmental trauma. She compares her trauma to what NARM calls the Attunement Survival Style. Dr. Heller acknowledges the distinction she is drawing and the limitations that the ACE study has when it comes to children experiencing misattunement. They reflect together on how there is a spectrum of experiences that can create developmental trauma and the importance of expanding the definition of complex trauma. Dr. Rankin and Dr. Heller reflect on the various ways they’re both working to make trauma healing more accessible. They discuss the importance of shifting the paradigm from chronic stress to relational health, and that if we can educate frontline workers about how to assess trauma and how to support relational health, we can increase the amount of support people are receiving and start to address trauma collectively. Bio: Lissa Rankin, MD, is a mind-body medicine physician, author of 7 books, founder of the Whole Health Medicine Institute, and mystic who researches radical remission, trauma-informed medicine, and spiritual healing. Her TEDx talks have been viewed over 5 million times, and she starred in two National Public Television specials- Heal Yourself: Mind Over Medicine and The Fear Cure. Lissa’s interest in the link between loneliness and disease led her to spearhead her latest project, Heal At Last, a non-profit organization which aims to bring effective trauma healing and spiritual healing methods to anyone ready for the deep dive of healing.   Website: www.lissarankin.com   To read the full show notes and discover more resources visit http://www.narmtraining.com/podcast *** NARM Training Institute http://www.NARMtraining.com View upcoming trainings: https://narmtraining.com/schedule Join the Inner Circle: https://narmtraining.com/online-learning/inner-circle *** The NARM Training Institute provides tools for transforming complex trauma through: in-person and online trainings for mental health care professionals; in-person and online workshops on complex trauma and how it interplays with areas like addiction, parenting, and cultural trauma; an online self-paced learning program, the NARM Inner Circle; and other trauma-informed learning resources.   We want to connect with you! Facebook @NARMtraining Twitter @NARMtraining YouTube Instagram @thenarmtraininginstitute

Trauma therapist, somatic practitioner, and speaker, Becky Carter specializes in complex trauma (C-PTSD) with a focus on supporting transracial adoptees and their families. Becky talks about her work with somatic healing of racial trauma, her own connection to her ancestral trauma, and how embodiment can serve as a vehicle for healing. She shares her personal experience of being biracial and adopted at ten months old into a white family, reflecting on the varying experiences she had growing up that were informed by her biracial identity and the family that she grew up in. Somatic healing work has been helpful for Becky not only with her clients, but also in her own healing. “To be able to listen to my body as a woman of color and to connect with it and know that it has something to tell me, and has its own wisdom — that has been transformative,” Becky says.  Becky also reflects on racial trauma on an individual and societal level. She shares the importance of being present with and holding curiously for others, specifically people of color. The episode concludes with Becky reflecting on hope and the role embodied healing approaches can play in manifesting new possibilities.   About Becky: Becky Carter is a biracial, cisgender, transracially adopted female. Her ancestors are West African and Sicilian. She has two black adopted children. Becky is a trauma therapist with 20+ years experience in helping both women and men heal the wounds of relational trauma that occur in-utero and beyond. She’s trained in both Somatic Experiencing and Transformative Touch Therapy. She strives to create a space where clients can understand, through a new lens, the impact of trauma, stress and pain on their whole being.  She enjoys the process of nurturing resilience in clients and supporting the regulation of the nervous system. Becky works with adults and teens and have special expertise with repairing complex trauma, dissociation and sexual abuse, and has a special dedication to supporting adoptees and their families. She often writes about her work whether through blogging or poetry. https://www.beckycarterlcpc.com/   To read the full show notes and discover more resources visit http://www.narmtraining.com/podcast *** NARM Training Institute http://www.NARMtraining.com View upcoming trainings: https://narmtraining.com/schedule Join the Inner Circle: https://narmtraining.com/online-learning/inner-circle *** The NARM Training Institute provides tools for transforming complex trauma through: in-person and online trainings for mental health care professionals; in-person and online workshops on complex trauma and how it interplays with areas like addiction, parenting, and cultural trauma; an online self-paced learning program, the NARM Inner Circle; and other trauma-informed learning resources.   We want to connect with you! Facebook @NARMtraining Twitter @NARMtraining YouTube Instagram @thenarmtraininginstitute

Julie Brown Yau, Ph.D. specializes in developmental trauma, intergenerational trauma, and acute trauma, and has a unique perspective on integrating spirituality into trauma healing. She's an author, speaker, and the Trauma and Spiritual Care consultant for Compassionate Care ALS. Her background in psychological, somatic, and spiritual traditions provides a rich combination of knowledge. She has a private practice in Laguna Beach, California, and sees clients virtually from all around the world. Julie is also a NARM Therapist and was in the first North American NARM training with Dr. Laurence Heller. She integrates NARM into her work to support clients in healing from complex trauma. Julie is also an authorized teacher of Shri Vidya, which combines the resolution of trauma with spiritual practice. Julie explains that Shri Vidya are embodied teachings, and that a lot of spiritual teachings do not include embodiment, at least not in an explicit way. Julie shares about how she weaves together spirituality and trauma healing and how they support one another. “Healing trauma begins to look spiritual as we open up and go beyond our ordinary sense of self.” Julie distinguishes spiritual healing as “waking up to our true nature and being with expanded states of consciousness. Whereas trauma healing is about grounded and embodied states of being.”  Julie shares with the listeners deep experiences she has had with people she’s been working with. “What comes forward right now is people having an experience of their heart opening, to feeling not only love, but grief or pain or sadness, and directly in a field in which they're more able to be with it because both in these teachings of awakening and in healing trauma, we want to be able to feel more.” This is very aligned with the NARM Emotional Completion Model, which teaches that as individuals connect to their unresolved emotions, they are connecting to themselves; they are connecting to that which they had to split off from in order to survive. This is a reclaiming of one’s wholeness, which is what Julie supports in working with trauma healing and spirituality. Bio:  Julie Brown Yau, Ph.D., has a 33-year background in psychological, somatic, and spiritual traditions, providing a unique depth of knowledge and experience. Julie specializes in developmental trauma, intergenerational, and acute trauma. She is an author and speaker, and also the trauma and spiritual care consultant for CCALS. Julie is an authorized teacher of Shri Vidya, where she combines the resolution of trauma with specific spiritual practice. Julie has a private practice in Laguna Beach CA and works on Skype/zoom world wide. www.juliebrownyau.com   To read the full show notes and discover more resources visit http://www.narmtraining.com/podcast *** NARM Training Institute http://www.NARMtraining.com View upcoming Online Basics Trainings: http://www.narmtraining.com/onlinebasics *** The NARM Training Institute provides tools for transforming complex trauma through: in-person and online trainings for mental health care professionals; in-person and online workshops on complex trauma and how it interplays with areas like addiction, parenting, and cultural trauma; an online self-paced learning program, the NARM Inner Circle; and other trauma-informed learning resources.   We want to connect with you! Facebook @NARMtraining Twitter @NARMtraining YouTube Instagram @thenarmtraininginstitute

Bonnie Badenoch is a therapist, mentor, teacher, author, and has spent the last fifteen years integrating the discoveries of relational neuroscience into her therapy practice. She's the co-founder of the nonprofit agency Nurturing the Heart with the Brain in Mind. For twenty-five years, she has worked with trauma survivors to reshape their neural landscape to support a life of meaning and resilience.  Through exploration of her own developmental trauma, Bonnie was able to receive the support that she needed and was inspired to help others.  Bonnie reflects on the importance of true safety, true presence, and connection as essential elements for healing — and she believes it's vital for therapists to do their own work in order for them to be healthy enough to be present, safe, and connected to themselves and their clients in the therapeutic space.   Bonnie’s approach, similar to NARM, is grounded in a therapist’s capacity for humility, which has to do with the way therapists meet their clients with openness and curiosity, and not as experts or being focused on “fixing their clients”.  Bonnie gives a couple examples of clients and the growth that they have experienced due to the relational focus in their therapy. Safety, curiosity, and space for clients to connect to their own inner wisdom - which in NARM is part of the agency process - can lead to profound healing and transformation. Bonnie reflects on the power of the therapist “really respecting space and trusting the wisdom inside the person — and if we can just sit together and keep holding space, what needs to come forward will come forward, and it'll come forward at a pace that's manageable for the person.”  Bonnie reflects on what gives her hope amidst all the fear and devastation that goes on in the world and between one another. She believes that who we are inherently yearns to orient towards connection and health. To read the full show notes and discover more resources visit http://www.narmtraining.com/podcast *** NARM Training Institute http://www.NARMtraining.com View upcoming Online Basics Trainings: http://www.narmtraining.com/onlinebasics *** The NARM Training Institute provides tools for transforming complex trauma through: in-person and online trainings for mental health care professionals; in-person and online workshops on complex trauma and how it interplays with areas like addiction, parenting, and cultural trauma; an online self-paced learning program, the NARM Inner Circle; and other trauma-informed learning resources.   We want to connect with you! Facebook @NARMtraining Twitter @NARMtraining YouTube Instagram @thenarmtraininginstitute

Ken Seeley has been professionally and personally involved in recovery since his sobriety date of July 14th, 1989. His experience with recovery and boundless enthusiasm helps him support changes in the lives of people suffering from the disease of addiction. Ken is also an author and founder of Ken Seeley Communities and Intervention 911 in Palm Springs, California. He's been a featured interventionist on the Emmy award winning television series, Intervention, since 2005. At one time, Ken wasn’t aware of how trauma played a role in his own struggles with addiction. Ken hopes listeners will look deeper into their own unaddressed or unprocessed trauma and emphasizes that even though some people might not think they are impacted by trauma, many find that if they dig deeper within themselves and expand their understanding of trauma, they can become aware of how they have been impacted. Through learning about complex trauma, specifically through NARM, Ken started to understand what trauma was and how he was impacted by it. His understanding of what trauma can look like broadened beyond the more common ways it’s often viewed, such as physical, sexual, and verbal abuse. Ken shares some of the personal experiences he endured from being bullied by his peers in grade school and how this impacted him. Ken appreciates how NARM focuses on asking questions in a curious, nonthreatening, and relational way. He found how supportive it can be to have the space of openness and curiosity that the NARM framework provides for healing.  About Ken: Ken Seeley has remained professionally and personally involved in recovery since his sobriety date of July 14, 1989. He applies his relevant experience and boundless enthusiasm to change the lives of people suffering from the disease of addiction. His innate compassion for fellow addicts continually bolsters his ability to connect and communicate with addicts and their families. Ken’s remarkable success rate has turned him into one of the most sought-after interventionists in the country. Ken is also an author, founder of Ken Seeley Communities and Intervention911 in Palm Springs, CA, and has been a featured interventionist on the Emmy award-winning A&E television series, Intervention since 2005.  Follow Ken:  kscfamily.com intervention911.com www.facebook.com/KenSeeleyInterventionist/ www.instagram.com/kenseeleyi911 www.youtube.com/channel/UCIRVKrPgjdBE7H_jcOA6R9Q To read the full show notes and discover more resources visit http://www.narmtraining.com/podcast *** NARM Training Institute http://www.NARMtraining.com View upcoming Online Basics Trainings: http://www.narmtraining.com/onlinebasics *** The NARM Training Institute provides tools for transforming complex trauma through: in-person and online trainings for mental health care professionals; in-person and online workshops on complex trauma and how it interplays with areas like addiction, parenting, and cultural trauma; an online self-paced learning program, the NARM Inner Circle; and other trauma-informed learning resources.   We want to connect with you! Facebook @NARMtraining Twitter @NARMtraining YouTube Instagram @thenarmtraininginstitute

Kathy Nielson recently completed the Level 1 NARM Online Basics Training and is now a NARM-Informed Professional. Kathy shares about her multifaceted involvement in her community of North Minneapolis. This is a community full of connection and engagement, a multiracial community where 84% of residents are people of color, but also a community where so many are living through racial trauma and the impact of intergenerational trauma and poverty. In her community, Kathy wears many hats. Not only is she a volleyball coach, she’s also the owner of Lion's Fire, a mobile wood-fired pizza business and social venture with a purpose to employ, train, and build connection with female student athletes. She's also the cofounder of a small neighborhood-based nonprofit called Lions Ink, which is focused on gathering and sharing relational and financial resources to support a new generation of young individuals and families as they move from survival toward emotional and financial flourishing. What made Kathy interested in attending a NARM training was, in part, her own trauma, but also the trauma she knew her volleyball players were experiencing. Kathy wanted to understand how to support her players more effectively with their trauma, so as she was doing research online she found the Transforming Trauma podcast, and then signed up for the NARM Online Basics Training.  Healing in spaces outside of therapy and between non-clinicians is an intention that Kathy shares through her conversation with Sarah. Kathy reflects on how she notices that she relates to herself differently since being in the NARM Online Basics Training training. She has shifted her ability to be more present instead of overriding her feelings. She shares that this has supported her to be more present and in relationship with her players as opposed to trying to fix or change herself and her players. Kathy expresses a heartfelt appreciation for the work she gets to do and shares that she feels privileged being able to coach and be with her players.  About Kathy: Kathy Nielsen’s work is rooted in North Minneapolis, a community full of joy and aptitude where 84% of residents are people of color. Many are rising through complex trauma, racial trauma, and generational poverty. Kathy wears several hats: one as the head volleyball coach at Minneapolis North Community High School. She’s also the owner of Lion's Fire, a mobile wood fired pizza social venture with a purpose to employ, train and journey with female student athletes in North Minneapolis. And she’s the co-founder of a small neighborhood based non-profit called Lion's Ink, which is focused on gathering and sharing relational and financial resources to support a new generation of young people and young families as they move from survival toward emotional and financial flourishing. Connect: https://www.lionsink.org To read the full show notes and discover more resources visit http://www.narmtraining.com/podcast *** NARM Training Institute http://www.NARMtraining.com View upcoming Online Basics Trainings: http://www.narmtraining.com/onlinebasics *** The NARM Training Institute provides tools for transforming complex trauma through: in-person and online trainings for mental health care professionals; in-person and online workshops on complex trauma and how it interplays with areas like addiction, parenting, and cultural trauma; an online self-paced learning program, the NARM Inner Circle; and other trauma-informed learning resources.   We want to connect with you! Facebook @NARMtraining Twitter @NARMtraining YouTube Instagram @thenarmtraininginstitute

Deb Dana, LCSW, is a founding member of the Polyvagal Institute and Coordinator of the Traumatic Stress Research Consortium at the Kinsey Institute, Indiana University.  Deb shares with our host, Sarah, about her work with the Polyvagal Theory, a clinical theory developed by Dr. Stephen Porges, and how she has translated the theory into clinical application, including everyday application. Deb describes the Polyvagal framework that views the nervous system as a common denominator of human experience, and shares, “It’s my belief we should all learn how to operate our nervous systems in some way.” Deb breaks down the Polyvagal Theory for listeners and shares three organizing principles: hierarchy, neuroception, and co-regulation.  Deb talks further about how different life experiences, including developmental trauma, result in nervous systems moving in and out of regulation and dysregulation in different ways. Deb says, “It’s not so much what happened to you, it’s how your nervous system responds to what happens to you.” This understanding is aligned with the  NeuroAffective Relational Model (NARM) and highlights how different people experience and adapt to the same traumatic experience in different ways.  Deb describes a “safety-danger equation” that people unconsciously calculate in order to determine what feels safe for them at any given moment. Sarah shares how this orientation aligns with what is referred to in NARM as Adaptive Survival Styles, the ways that children learn to adapt to developmental trauma and which gets carried into adulthood as filters for viewing Self, others and one’s life.  Deb and Sarah both emphasize the importance of curiosity and being able to sit with the unknown, and how that leads to a greater awareness of our nervous system states. In NARM, the process of inquiry invites curiosity and compassion for the clients’ experience and nervous system states, which supports what in NARM is called an “Embodied Adult Consciousness”. The conversation concludes with Deb and Sarah sharing the powerful outcomes of having more awareness of our nervous system states, more curiosity, and more compassion for ourselves.  About Deb: Deb Dana, LCSW, is a clinician and consultant specializing in working with complex trauma and Coordinator of the Traumatic Stress Research Consortium at the Kinsey Institute, Indiana University. She developed the Rhythm of Regulation clinical training series and lectures internationally on ways in which polyvagal theory informs work with trauma survivors. Connect with Deb:  Deb Dana offers trainings, podcasts, interviews on her website www.rhythmofregulation.com and on the Polyvagal Institute website www.polyvagalinstitute.org   To read the full show notes and discover more resources visit http://www.narmtraining.com/podcast *** NARM Training Institute http://www.NARMtraining.com View upcoming Online Basics Trainings: http://www.narmtraining.com/onlinebasics *** The NARM Training Institute provides tools for transforming complex trauma through: in-person and online trainings for mental health care professionals; in-person and online workshops on complex trauma and how it interplays with areas like addiction, parenting, and cultural trauma; an online self-paced learning program, the NARM Inner Circle; and other trauma-informed learning resources.   We want to connect with you! Facebook @NARMtraining Twitter @NARMtraining YouTube Instagram @thenarmtraininginstitute

Dr. Laurence Heller and Brad Kammer delve into unresolved anger leading to anxiety, NARM approach to reconnecting with authentic self, difference between healthy rage and unresolved anger, NARM's role in addressing impulses towards violence, importance of containment over catharsis, and exploring primary emotions for expansiveness and freedom.