
Speaking Out of Place
Public activism on human rights, environmental and indigenous justice, and educational liberation, with an emphasis on politics, culture, and art. Website: https://speakingoutofplace.com/
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Sep 3, 2024 • 46min
Documenting the Fight Against the Palestine Exception: A Conversation with Filmmakers Jan Haaken and Jennifer Ruth
In this enlightening discussion, filmmakers Jan Haaken and Jennifer Ruth delve into their documentary project, 'The Palestine Exception', highlighting the significant campus protests against Israel's actions. Jan, a professor emerita and documentary filmmaker, shares insights on the emotional and ethical challenges of storytelling in sensitive contexts. Jennifer, an expert in film studies, focuses on the importance of reclaiming narratives and preserving academic freedom. Together, they emphasize grassroots activism and the critical need for solidarity in social justice movements.

Aug 27, 2024 • 44min
Liza Featherstone and Doug Henwood: What to Make of the Democratic Convention?
Today we speak with journalists and political commentators Liza Featherstone and Doug Henwood about the state of the US Presidential elections. Recorded just after the Democratic National Convention in Chicago, we muse about Kamala Harris’s ascension, her choice of running mate, the strangely abiding popularity of Donald Trump, and the Democratic political calculation to downplay and even ignore our country’s complicity in Israel’s genocidal attacks on Palestine, and to likewise table any serious discussion of our environmental crisis.Liza Featherstone is the author of Divining Desire: Focus Groups and the Culture of Consultation, published by O/R Books in 2018, as well as Selling Women Short: the Landmark Battle for Workers’ Rights at Walmart (Basic Books, 2004). She co-authored Students Against Sweatshops (Verso, 2002) and is editor of False Choices: the Faux Feminism of Hillary Rodham Clinton (Verso, 2016). She's currently editing a collection of Alexandra Kollontai 's work for O/R Books and International Publishers and writing the introduction to that volume.Featherstone's work has been published in Lux, TV Guide, The New York Times, The Washington Post, Ms., the American Prospect, Columbia Journalism Review, Glamour, Teen Vogue, Dissent, the Guardian, In These Times, and many other publications. Liza teachers at NYU 's Literary Reportage Program as well as at Columbia University School for International and Public Affairs. She is proud to be an active member of the New York City Democratic Socialists of America and of UAW local 7902.Doug Henwood is a Brooklyn-based journalist and broadcaster specializing in economics and politics. He edited Left Business Observer, a newsletter, from 1986–2013, and has been host of Behind the News, a weekly radio show/podcast that originates on KPFA, Berkeley, since 1995. He is the author of Wall Street: How It Works and for Whom (Verso, 1997), After the New Economy (New Press, 2004), and My Turn: Hillary Clinton Targets the Presidency (OR Books, 2016). He’s written for numerous periodicals including Harper’s, The New Republic, The Nation, The Baffler, and Jacobin. He’s been working on a book about the rot of the US ruling class for way too long and needs to acquire the self-discipline to finish it.

Aug 11, 2024 • 1h 30min
US Immigration and Abolitionist Sanctuary: A Conversation with A. Naomi Paik and Arianna Salgado
Naomi Paik is the author of Bans, Walls, Raids, Sanctuary: Understanding U.S. Immigration for the 21st Century (2020, University of California Press) and Rightlessness: Testimony and Redress in U.S. Prison Camps since World War II (2016, UNC Press; winner, Best Book in History, AAAS 2018; runner-up, John Hope Franklin prize for best book in American Studies, ASA, 2017), as well as articles, opinion pieces, and interviews in a range of academic and public-facing venues. Her next book-length project, "Sanctuary for All," calls for the most capacious conception of sanctuary that brings together migrant and environmental justice. A member of the Radical History Review editorial collective, she has co-edited four special issues of the journal—“Militarism and Capitalism (Winter 2019), “Radical Histories of Sanctuary” (Fall 2019), “Policing, Justice, and the Radical Imagination” (Spring 2020), and “Alternatives to the Anthropocene” with Ashley Dawson (Winter 2023). She coedits the “Borderlands” section of Public Books alongside Cat Ramirez, as well as “The Politics of Sanctuary” blog of the Smithsonian Institution with Sam Vong. She is an associate professor of Criminology, Law, and Justice and Global Asian Studies at the University of Illinois Chicago, and a member of the Migration Scholars Collaborative and Faculty and Staff for Justice in Palestine, UIC. Her research and teaching interests include comparative ethnic studies; U.S. imperialism; U.S. militarism; social and cultural approaches to legal studies; transnational and women of color feminisms; carceral spaces; and labor, race, and migration.Arianna Salgado is a queer immigrant who was born in Morelos, Mexico and arrived in the United States at the age of 6. She began organizing in high school with the West Suburban Action Project, Nuestra Voz, and the Immigrant Youth Justice League; undocumented-led organizations that sought to create safe spaces for undocumented people and resources for higher education. Arianna is a founding member of Organized Communities Against Deportations, a grassroots organization that fights against the criminalization, detention, and deportation of undocumented people. She currently lives in Chicago in the South Lawndale neighborhood with her two pups and is the executive director at Prison/ Neighborhood Arts and Education Project.

Jul 31, 2024 • 1h 17min
How Are Settler Colonialism, Imperialism, and Elitism Baked into the US Constitution? Aziz Rana on The Constitutional Bind: How Americans Came to Idolize a Document that Fails Them
Aziz Rana, a legal scholar and historian, dives into the convoluted nature of the U.S. Constitution. He discusses its interpretations by various groups and critiques its conservative foundations. Rana reveals how the Constitution has fueled American exceptionalism and influenced social movements. He advocates for a political revolution to uplift Indigenous and Black communities. The conversation also touches on utilizing legal institutions for activism and the challenges of forging a united front for decolonization and immigrant rights.

Jul 25, 2024 • 1h 7min
Priyamvada Gopal and Françoise Vergès on the Recent Elections in Britain and France
Decolonial scholars Priyamvada Gopal and Françoise Vergès discuss post-election changes in the UK and France, challenges faced by new governments, environmental activism, wealth concentration among elites, and the power of imagination in resistance movements.

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Jul 21, 2024 • 47min
Diana Buttu and Richard Falk on the Broad Significance of the ICJ’s Ruling on the Israeli Occupation
Diana Buttu and Richard Falk discuss the ICJ ruling on Israeli occupation, calling for an end to the occupation and dismantling of apartheid structures. They explore the implications of the ruling, Israel's dismissive response, and the challenges of enforcing international law. The podcast also touches on Nuremberg jurisprudence, evolving narratives on Israel-Palestine, and the exclusion of recent events in occupied Palestine from the advisory opinion.

Jul 7, 2024 • 1h 16min
What is Behind the Devastating War and Famine in Sudan?: A Conversation with Dr. Osman Hamdan and Umniya Najaer
Far too few people know about the terrible war and the massive famine taking place in Sudan. Today learn about the long history behind these events, the people and groups involved, and the roles that foreign governments and international organizations like the IMF have played. Importantly, we learn how civil society groups are bringing a form of mutual aid and support to the people of Sudan where the national government, warring factions, and international humanitarian organizations have utterly failed.Dr. Osman Hamdan is a graduate of the University of Khartoum, Sudan, and holds a PhD in forestry economics from the Dresden University of Technology. He is a longtime pro-democracy fighter and activist. Umniya Najaer is a doctoral candidate in the Program in Modern Thought and Literature at Stanford University where she studies Black Feminist Thought and the Black Radical Tradition. Her poetry chapbook Armeika (2018, Akashic Press) explores experiences of the Sudanese-American diaspora and the unofficial government torture sites known as Biyout al-Ashbah, or ghost houses.

Jun 30, 2024 • 57min
What Do the June 2024 Elections in India Mean? A Conversation with Angana Chatterji & Siddhartha Deb
For decades, the works of scholar Angana Chatterji and author and journalist Siddhartha Deb have exposed the violence and fascism lying behind the mythology of India as the world's largest democracy. In the wake of India's most recent elections, in which the far right Hindutva BJP was surprisingly reduced from its former majority to a ruling minority government.Siddhartha and Angana join us to discuss the election results, the deep roots of fascism, the enduring structures of colonialism, and possible futures of resistance.Angana P. Chatterji is Founding Chair, Initiative on Political Conflict, Gender and People’s Rights at the Center for Race and Gender, University of California, Berkeley. A cultural anthropologist and interdisciplinary scholar of South Asia, Dr. Chatterji’s work since 1989 has been rooted in local knowledge, witness to post/colonial, decolonial conditions of grief, dispossession, agency, and affective solidarity. Her investigations with colleagues in Indian-administered Kashmir includes inquiry into unknown, unmarked and mass graves. Chatterji’s recent scholarship focuses on political conflict and coloniality in Kashmir; prejudicial citizenship in India; and violence (as a category of analysis) as agentized by Hindu nationalism, addressing religion in the public sphere, Islamomisia, state power, gender, caste, and racialization, and accountability. Her research also engages questions of memory, belonging, and legacies of conflict across South Asia. Chatterji has served on human rights commissions and offered expert testimony at the United Nations, European Parliament, United Kingdom Parliament, and United States Congress, and has been variously awarded for her work. Her sole and co-authored publications include: Breaking Worlds: Religion, Law, and Nationalism in Majoritarian India; Majoritarian State: How Hindu Nationalism is Changing India; Conflicted Democracies and Gendered Violence: The Right to Heal; Contesting Nation: Gendered Violence in South Asia; Notes on the Postcolonial Present; Kashmir: The Case for Freedom; Violent Gods: Hindu Nationalism in India’s Present; Narratives from Orissa; and reports: Access to Justice for Women: India’s Response to Sexual Violence in Conflict and Social Upheaval; BURIED EVIDENCE: Unknown, Unmarked and Mass Graves in Kashmir.Born in Shillong, north-eastern India, Siddhartha Deb lives in New York. His fiction and nonfiction have been longlisted for the International Dublin Literary Award, shortlisted for the Orwell Prize, and been awarded the Pen Open prize and the 2024 Anthony Veasna So Fiction prize. His journalism and essays have appeared in The New York Times, The Guardian, The New Republic, Dissent, The Baffler, N+1, and Caravan. His latest books include the novel, The Light at the End of the World (Soho Press 2023) and Twilight Prisoners: The Rise of the Hindu Right and the Fall of India (Haymarket Books, 2024).

Jun 20, 2024 • 1h 7min
Radical World-Making: A Conversation with Legendary Writer-Organizer-Activist Chris Carlsson
Author and activist Chris Carlsson discusses his novel set in a dystopian world, focusing on resisting political cynicism and rebuilding after destruction. The podcast explores biotechnology in capitalism, political events, protests, societal shifts, and the interconnected world of Witches' Butter. It also touches on the role of grassroots movements in shaping healthcare and energy production.

Jun 12, 2024 • 53min
My Brother, My Land: A Story from Palestine--A Conversation with Sami Hermez and Sireen Sawalha
Authors Sami Hermez and Sireen Sawalha discuss their book 'My Brother, My Land: A Story from Palestine,' highlighting Palestinian resistance, family dynamics, and colonial violence. They explore the challenges of sharing personal narratives from Palestine, the implications of plant picking restrictions by Israeli authorities, the impact of Israeli presence, and the radicalization of a Palestinian man. The podcast also delves into crafting a powerful narrative, persistence, and resistance in Palestine.
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