

M&A Science
Kison Patel
M&A Science, hosted by Kison Patel (Founder & CEO of DealRoom), is your go-to podcast for mastering the art of mergers and acquisitions. Each week, Kison and his expert guests from leading brands like Xerox, FastLap, and Cisco dig deep into real-world M&A strategies, offering actionable insights to optimize your M&A practice.
Whether you're an experienced practitioner or new to the field, M&A Science provides practical advice on key topics like sourcing, due diligence, integration, divestitures, and more. With over 300 episodes, this podcast is the premier thought leadership resource designed to streamline your deal-making process.
Start listening today and visit mascience.com/podcast to access over 300 episodes. Brought to you by DealRoom, the leading M&A optimization platform used by the best M&A teams around the world
Whether you're an experienced practitioner or new to the field, M&A Science provides practical advice on key topics like sourcing, due diligence, integration, divestitures, and more. With over 300 episodes, this podcast is the premier thought leadership resource designed to streamline your deal-making process.
Start listening today and visit mascience.com/podcast to access over 300 episodes. Brought to you by DealRoom, the leading M&A optimization platform used by the best M&A teams around the world
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Aug 12, 2020 • 52min
Summit Recap: Avoiding Valuation Surprises and Accounting for M&A Transactions
This is a session from our M&A Virtual Conference which was held on June 10 and 11. The topic of discussion is avoiding valuation surprises and accounting for M&A transactions, hosted by PJ Patel, co-CEO and Senior Managing Director at Valuation Research Corporation. Our guest for this interview is the Vice President of Corporate Strategy and M&A at Church and Dwight, Brian Buchert. Together, Brian and PJ discuss how to not overpay in deals, explain why valuing a company 10 years from now is a joke, and explain the effects of a long term recession. Learn tips on how to avoid common valuation mistakes, what the aftermath of COVID-19 may look like, and how valuation requires their own proprietary metric.

Aug 10, 2020 • 55min
How Successful Diligence and Integration Planning Frames Successful M&A and Valuation
Last week’s interview was with Erik Levy, Group Head Corp Dev and M&A at DMGT PLC. Erik has completed over 150 acquisitions, minority and venture investments and strategic partnerships. The topic of discussion is how successful Diligence and Integration planning frames success of M&A and valuation. Kison and Erik cover topics such as different approaches to valuation, causes of failures, and the keys to success.

Aug 7, 2020 • 53min
Virtual Summit Recap: Virtualizing the People Experience During Integration
In this recorded session from our M&A Science Virtual Summit, Laura Lane, Chief of Staff at VMware, Kimberly Baird, Corporate Development Integration Leader at Cisco, and Dawn White, Manager of M&A Integration at Corning discuss how to virtualize the people experience during integration. They cover topics such as maintaining enthusiasm, boosting morale, and what tech tools they use during this unprecedented time.

Aug 5, 2020 • 32min
Diligence in M&A
On this episode, Kison interviews Jeff Desroches, VP of Corporate Development at Atlas Copco, about how to identify issues during diligence in M&A. Jeff is a high-impact Corporate Development executive adept at identifying, developing and executing strategic growth opportunities. He’s a resourceful problem solver with proven ability to manage large, cross-functional teams to drive complex commercial and technical programs with extensive experience in international dealmaking. Together, Jeff and Kison discuss approaches to take for deal negotiations, how to present an offer and prepare yourself for any responses you may get, and what the main priorities of diligence are. They also cover topics such as issues that commonly appear during diligence, how to deal with those issues, and Jeff's opinion on culture.

Aug 3, 2020 • 44min
Navigating International Deals
In this interview, Kison discusses the topic of international transactions with Jeff Baker, EVP Mergers and Acquisitions at InComm. Jeff has extensive international experience and will be offering his advice on how to be sensitive towards other cultures and how to work with outside governments when completing a deal.

Jul 31, 2020 • 54min
What is Rebadging and How it Works
Kison sits down with Sachin Kumar, Senior Director - M&A and Regional Lead for HR North America at Conduent, to discuss the topic of the not so famous process of Rebadging. Together they break down the process step by step and explain the use case. Some tips: Don’t forget to get the HR team involved quickly. Without having an HR plan, focused job descriptions, and performance standards, rebadging can quickly turn into a big headache. Also, problems arise if Corp Dev was not informed because the business team doesn’t know how to manage an asset deal. So try your best to keep Corp Dev in the loop especially when the deal is scaling.

Jul 29, 2020 • 1h 11min
Assimilating Unique Cultures in M&A
On this episode, Kison speaks with Kim Jones, Senior HR M&A Manager at Microsoft. She conducts due diligence research and completes all HR-related integration activities as part of Microsoft's M&A programs. Together they discuss what company culture is, at what of the deal to consider it, and how to assess the company culture. Hear Kim’s advice on identifying the early signs of a bad fit, how to minimize fear, and how to accommodate the target company’s culture. She also gives insight as to what affects culture that you may not expect, the challenges that arise when assimilating different cultures, and what some non-negotiables are.

Jul 27, 2020 • 55min
Preserving a Company's Value During Integration
In this episode, Kison interviews Dev Sirur, Director of M&A Integrations at Intel.nHe has spent over 23 years at Intel and worked on 40+ transactions over a 10 year period. Dev is a proven executive experienced in helping business leaders and executive management on M&A strategy and synergy drivers. Together they discuss preserving a company’s value during integration and give advice on how not to annihilate the value creation during M&A. Learn how to retain value through M&A, how to adjust the integration process to fit your company's specific needs, and how to drive an efficient yet thorough due diligence process.

Jul 24, 2020 • 54min
COVID-19's Impact on M&A
In this episode, Kison discusses the impact COVID-19 is having on M&A with Toby Tester, a Senior Consultant and Project Manager at BTD, Kevin Robbins a General Partner at Blue Delta Capital Partners and Co-Founder of Wolf Den Associates, and Fred Thiel, Chairman and Chief Advisor of Thiel Advisors, Inc. For this discussion, Kison wanted to bring in industry professionals to talk about market shifts, the impact this pandemic is having on closing deals, and if we’re seeing any new deals arising because of COVID-19 we wouldn’t be seeing otherwise.

Jul 15, 2020 • 53min
Developing International Joint Ventures
On this episode, Kison and Ritch Schaafsma, VP of Corporate Development, Global Mergers and Acquisitions at General Motors, discuss the ins and outs of international joint ventures. Ritch is an accomplished and internationally seasoned Senior Corporate Development Executive, with over 15+ years of experience offering execution, valuation, strategy and restructuring expertise for driving multi-billion dollar growth transactions to C-level executives and Boards of Directors of Industry-leading manufacturers to meet their strategic objectives. In this podcast you will hear about Ritch’s transition to working overseas, cultural challenges, and his favorite global transaction. Additionally, they discuss how to navigate national governments, what prompts an international joint venture, and what exactly the international joint venture process looks like. Please note the views expressed in this podcast do not reflect those of General Motors.