

Transformative Principal
Jethro Jones
Jethro Jones interviews instructional leaders from around the nation to learn and teach what it takes to become a transformative principal. Episodes address topics like Response to Intervention (RTI), Multi-Tiered System of Support (MTSS), Positive Behavior Interventions and Supports (PBIS), the latest advances in educational research, standards-based grading, and interviews with industry leaders like Bill Daggett, Rick Wormeli, Todd Whitaker and even people outside the education like Seth Godin, JeVon McCormick, Liz Wiseman, and more.
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May 24, 2024 • 1h 9min
FF - RTI Scheduling
Today, Damon Hargraves, host of the WorkflowED podcast turned the mic on me and interviewed me for the 100th episode of the Transformative Principal Podcast. I can’t believe I have done 100 episodes of this podcast. Thank you so much for listening to this and helping me make it better.RTI idea was in place, but we needed a little kick in the pants.Value of getting away from the day-to-day issues at school.How to keep it going when you come back from conferences: hang up the poster.Reducing ELA from 90 minutes per day to 45 minutes per day, with students who need 90 minutes still getting that much time.How to get teachers to agree to reduce the number of minutes for their content area.Yolanda WesterbergWe can always be better, so let’s always improve.There is a story written before you. Accept the story that has been there before your chapter 1 starts.How to have solid forward momentum as you make changes, and not get stalled.Meeting with the correct people so you don’t get stalled.Getting feedback and adjusting course.Schedules Explained for Teachers videoSchedules Explained for Parents videoMaking sure that the right people had the information at the right time.The schedule we creating had a place for every student in the school.How to design software for your school when you don’t have what you need.Having plans in place even if it is going to be very difficult.Guru Technologies - the company we hired to develop the app for us.The app you can actually use yourself: Pickr AppTeacher choice tutorial - kids know they aren’t performing and are eager to have the extra help.Be simple about what you’re trying to implement.MVP - minimum viable productGoals for moving forward: anticipate needs earlier.The book by Austin Buffum and Mike Mattos: It’s About Time
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May 21, 2024 • 37min
BPN Presents: Why Your Fundraiser Flopped with Catholic School Leaders Podcast
This is a special episode of another show on the BE Podcast Network. I recently had John Milhalyo as a guest on Transformative Principal and to I'm sharing one of his best episodes yet on why your fundraiser flopped. In this episode, John Mihalyo discusses effective strategies for Catholic school leaders to analyze and improve their advancement, development, and fundraising efforts. Drawing from his experience and expertise, John highlights common pitfalls in setting goals that are either too high or too low and emphasizes the importance of realistic planning, communication, sponsorship, budgeting, and offering desirable items or experiences at fundraising events. He also stresses the significance of timing, venue selection, and the power of saying 'thank you' to sponsors and donors. Throughout the episode, John offers practical advice on creating a culture of giving and forging strong community partnerships to support Catholic education worldwide.00:00 Introduction to the Catholic School Leaders Podcast00:34 Reflecting on the School Year and Advancement Efforts01:06 Analyzing Fundraising Efforts and Identifying Improvement Areas02:19 Common Reasons for Not Meeting Fundraising Goals05:01 The Importance of Proper Event Planning and Timing07:16 Maximizing Communication and Sponsorship Opportunities16:49 Ensuring Your Fundraising Offers What People Want20:29 Choosing the Right Venue and Recognizing Sponsors24:43 Avoiding Donor Fatigue with Strategic Fundraising27:18 Budgeting and Event Feedback for Future Success31:05 Conclusion and Invitation to Connect
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May 19, 2024 • 41min
No Fuss Fundraising for Catholic Schools with John Mihalyo Transformative Principal 599
The difference between a catholic school and a public school. System of Schools rather than a school system. Creating a culture of giving in the school community.What’s the cost to educate?How to be clear on what you’re doing as the advancement progresses.Friendraising vs. Fundraising The foundations we have come from elementary schoolsIt takes time to grow the office, have a clear purpose for the goals of the offices. Catholic Schools compete against themselves in fundraising. Get everyone on the same page. Moved their role from fundraising entities to friendraising entities. Have the visionHelp people put their guards down and put the vision of the school first. It’s very personal to them. Bring them into the fold and have them help the advancement office. No Fuss Fundraising Tie it to a vision and people get the value. Don’t put your fundraising into salaries. 90% of problems - consistency, communication, curb appeal.Connecting Catholic School LeadersNeeding to refresh and grow together. About John MihalyoJohn Mihalyo has served as a Catholic school principal for the past 15 years. In that time, he worked for preschools, K-8 schools, and a high school. He has worked for six pastors, two bishops, five superintendents, two dioceses in multiple states, and thousands of parents and constituents. He has found new and creative ways to partner with parents to keep Christ’s light alive in our parochial schools. After 15 years in Catholic schools and 25 years in education, he created Elementary Advancement Solutions LLC as a way to help other school leaders win in advancement, leadership, and recruitment! As principal, he has overseen the creation of two Advancement Offices. His schools have raised over $1.8 million in funding through annual funds, special events, grants, and other programs by using the methods being offered to you through Elementary Advancement Solutions LLC. He also led a $6 million renovation to his first school as a high school principal. In addition to his successful track record in fundraising, his schools have seen an average increase in enrollment of 21% from his start date to the end of his tenure. John has worked with and been trained by numerous organizations over his 15 years. He has seen what works and what doesn’t and has developed a strategy specific to teach elementary schools to win at advancement, recruitment, and leadership not just today, but for the future! He is eager to bring this strategy to individual schools to work directly with them to help them meet their advancement needs. He believes in taking a personal approach to help each school he works with find its success based on its specific needs.
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May 17, 2024 • 58min
The Principal 2.0 with Michael Fullan
Michael Fullan, the internationally known authority on educational leadership and proponent of whole system reform, joins us for this episode. No doubt, many of you listeners have been influenced by Michael’s work over the years. The former Dean of the Ontario Institute for Studies in Education and Professor Emeritus of the University of Toronto, he is co-leader of the New Pedagogies for Deep Learning global initiative, served as Premier Dalton’s Special Policy Adviser in Ontario from 2003-2013, and received the Order of Canada (OC) in December 2012.Michael is the author of numerous books, including the focus of today’s episode: The Principal 2.0: Three Keys to Maximizing Impact (Jossey-Bass).We discuss:The Principal 2.0 (2023) is 90% new material from The Principal (2014). We cover the events that caused Michael to undertake such a significant revisitation.The disruptions of the past few years are forcing change in schools – which can turn out for better or worse depending on the evolving role of the principal. What forces have traditionally boxed principals into a narrower role?Spirit WorkGlobal evidence for these principlesSystemness in Action Connected Autonomy The Drivers – system change from the bottom upReasons for optimism about the futureFind The Principal 2.0 here: https://bit.ly/3TYJZx4 About today’s guestMichael Fullan is an internationally known authority on educational leadership. Professor emeritus at the Ontario Institute for Studies in Education at the University of Toronto, Fullan is Global Co-Director of New Pedagogies for Deep Learning. He is an adviser and consultant on major education reform initiatives around the world. His previous books include Change Leader, The Six Secrets of Change, and Leading in a Culture of Change. Learn more: https://michaelfullan.ca/About the hostRoss Romano is a co-founder of the Be Podcast Network and CEO of September Strategies, a coaching and consulting firm that helps organizations and high-performing leaders in the K-12 education industry communicate their vision and make strategic decisions that lead to long-term success. Connect on Twitter @RossBRomano or https://www.linkedin.com/in/rossromano I also host Sideline Sessions, a podcast for coaches and parents of student-athletes. The show features conversations with coaches and performance experts in the NFL, NBA, NCAA, Olympics, and more. Listen here: https://bit.ly/3Rp0QGt
LinkedLeaders: You need support. Get just-in-time mentoring at LinkedLeaders.comWe’re thrilled to be sponsored by IXL. IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:Simplify and streamline technologySave teachers’ timeReliably meet Tier 1 standardsImprove student performance on state assessments🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district.

May 14, 2024 • 1h 1min
BPN Presents: How to Involve Parents In Grading Reform
Dr. Thomas R. Guskey is Professor Emeritus in the College of Education at the University of Kentucky. He is known throughout the world for his work on student assessment, grading and reporting, professional learning, and educational research. Guskey is author/editor of thirty books, including his latest, Engaging Parents and Families in Grading Reforms (Corwin).We discuss:What is the purpose of grading?“Is my purpose as a teacher to select talent or develop talent?”The state of grading practices in US schoolsCommunicating grading — what families want to knowConnotations around the phrase “grading reform”What do families oppose?Purposefully engaging families: understanding roles and making it authenticWhat leaders get wrong about the change processExamples of successful grading reform in school districtsFind Engaging Parents and Families in Grading Reforms from Corwin or wherever you get your books. Learn more at www.tguskey.com. About today’s guestThomas R. Guskey, PhD, is Professor Emeritus in the College of Education at the University of Kentucky. A graduate of the University of Chicago’s renowned Measurement, Evaluation, and Statistical Analysis (MESA) program, he began his career in education as a middle school teacher, served as an administrator in the Chicago Public Schools, and was the first Director of the Center for the Improvement of Teaching and Learning, a national educational research center. Dr. Guskey served on the Policy Research Team of the National Commission on Teaching and America’s Future, and on the task force to develop the National Standards for Professional Development. He was named a Fellow in the American Educational Research Association and was awarded the Association’s prestigious Relating Research to Practice Award. He is author/editor of thirty books and over three hundred published articles and book chapters on educational assessment, program evaluation, and grading and reporting. He may be contacted by email at guskey@uky.edu, Twitter at @tguskey, or at www.tguskey.com. About the hostRoss Romano is a co-founder of the Be Podcast Network and CEO of September Strategies, a coaching and consulting firm that helps organizations and high-performing leaders in the K-12 education industry communicate their vision and make strategic decisions that lead to long-term success. Connect on Twitter @RossBRomano or https://www.linkedin.com/in/rossromano Ross also host Sideline Sessions, a podcast for coaches and parents of student-athletes. The show features conversations with coaches and performance experts in the NFL, NBA, NCAA, Olympics, and more. Listen here: https://bit.ly/3Rp0QGt
LinkedLeaders: You need support. Get just-in-time mentoring at LinkedLeaders.comWe’re thrilled to be sponsored by IXL. IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:Simplify and streamline technologySave teachers’ timeReliably meet Tier 1 standardsImprove student performance on state assessments🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district.

May 10, 2024 • 37min
FF: You've Hired Great People, Now What?
This is a continuation of our coaching calls with Eric Makelky. Please check our previous episodes 532, 527, 523 519 514, 510, 506, and 501In this episode, we talk about onboarding new staff. What Eric has done that has been helpful.District duties and Principal duties.How do we make people stick around?New Teacher Academy - in-house teachers come in and model, share, and showcase practices from their classroom.In-house people leading these things.Half-day around the building - basic information.Make a list, and trickle in during the summer.And what do they really need to be ready for the first day of school?Resources, curriculum, plan, classroom management.Big Picture vs. Details.How do you do that?Trello Board about onboardingHow do you avoid overwhelming them?Identify what is really valuable and what is extraMentoring new teachersHow do you not force mentoring on teachers?Collaborative teams within PLCs.Solid mentorMentorship is done according to the needs of the menteeIt’s about mentoring culture not just pedagogy.Have retired teachers come and be mentors when appropriate.
LinkedLeaders: You need support. Get just-in-time mentoring at LinkedLeaders.comWe’re thrilled to be sponsored by IXL. IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:Simplify and streamline technologySave teachers’ timeReliably meet Tier 1 standardsImprove student performance on state assessments🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district.

May 8, 2024 • 16min
Do You Have Self-Doubt About Your Decisions as a Principal? From The Principal Handbook
Do you ever doubt your decisions as a principal. As a principal myself, I understand the constant second-guessing and the toll it can take on confidence.Discover the symptoms of self-doubt, from questioning every decision to hesitancy in sharing innovative ideas. Understand the root cause of self-doubt and why it can hinder leadership effectiveness.Learn what doesn't work when trying to combat self-doubt and uncover practical strategies to stop it in its tracks. From remembering your value to setting realistic expectations and developing a support system, we've got you covered.Enhance your job satisfaction and stop doubting your decisions by tuning in and taking action. If you're ready to take the next step, check out the free workshop on How to Stop Doubting Your Decisions as a School Leader. Click HERE to take the workshop. After you finish listening, I would love to hear your most significant takeaway from today's episode. Take a screenshot of yourself listening on your device, share it on your Instagram stories, and tag me, @BarbFlowersCoaching.While you're there, please ensure you follow me on Instagram so you can get a behind-the-scenes look at how I assist educators in reducing stress, preventing burnout, and how you can benefit as well.Connect with Barb:Website
LinkedLeaders: You need support. Get just-in-time mentoring at LinkedLeaders.comWe’re thrilled to be sponsored by IXL. IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:Simplify and streamline technologySave teachers’ timeReliably meet Tier 1 standardsImprove student performance on state assessments🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district.

May 6, 2024 • 29min
Why We Should Exercise Emotion In Our Leadership with Sean Slade Transformative Principal 598
In this episode of Transformative Principal, Jethro Jones engages in a profound discussion with Sean Slade, co-head of North America at BTS Spark, about reevaluating traditional perceptions of leadership, particularly around the management of emotions. Sean challenges the archetype of the stoic, emotionless leader, suggesting that vulnerability, emotion, and personal connection are crucial elements for effective leadership, especially highlighted by observations from the first year of the pandemic. The conversation delves into how leaders who embraced their humanity, admitting uncertainty and fostering relationships, tended to succeed more. Drawing on a study and the insights from the book Embracing MESSY Leadership, Sean emphasizes the critical role of emotions in building trust, cultivating teamwork, and enhancing problem-solving capacities. He argues for a shift from controlling to exercising and utilizing emotions as strategic tools in leadership. The podcast also touches on the practical aspects of having difficult conversations and the importance of authenticity, emotional intelligence, and self-awareness in leadership roles. Sean concludes by underscoring the evolving understanding of leadership as beyond a series of tasks, advocating for emotional adeptness as a key leadership skill.Maybe the emotionless leader is not quite correct. MESSY Leadership came out of the pandemicThe leaders who were able to make personal connections, build relationships and show vulnerability did quite well. Exercise your emotion rather than controlling your emotions.Admit uncertaintyPose questions back to teamHigh level of self-awareness and self-confidenceEveryone wants to feel like they matter and they want to belong. You are part of this community. Don’t we want to be authentic ourselves?Get communication cards.Leadership as a series of tasks and duties. Making people feel happy on a surface level. What’s putting you in the box? And how do you get out of it? Leadership is not a series of checklists. Links:Sean Slade's website: https://www.seanslade.com/ MESSY LeadershipJethro’s Communication Cards: https://www.jethrojones.com/communication-cards About Sean SladeSean is the Co-Head of North America at BTS Spark. He is an education leader, speaker and author, with nearly three decades of experience in education, both in the US and globally. With a strong background in education reform and wellbeing, he has driven policy change, implemented initiatives, and developed educational leaders, to enhance the social impact of education. As Senior Director of Global Outreach at ASCD, Sean launched and grew the ASCD Whole Child Network to 1,800 members, 350 school districts and 56 countries. He is a Social & Emotional Learning expert for NBC Today, advisory member for OECD’s Future of Education & Skills 2030, a founding member of the UNESCO Chair on Global Health & Education. He has written for the Washington Post, Huffington Post, EdWeek, and is a frequent keynote speaker.
LinkedLeaders: You need support. Get just-in-time mentoring at LinkedLeaders.comWe’re thrilled to be sponsored by IXL. IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:Simplify and streamline technologySave teachers’ timeReliably meet Tier 1 standardsImprove student performance on state assessments🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district.

May 3, 2024 • 42min
Stoicism in School Leadership with Danny Bauer & Glenn Robbins Transformative Principal 597
In this episode, Jethro is joined by Danny Bauer and Glenn Robbins, author of the book Calm In The Chaos: Ancient Stoic Wisdom for Successful School Leadership. We talk about how to be stoic as a leader in schools and apply that wisdom to your daily. Plus, you won’t believe the sign we saw in a school!How to get people on the same page when you’re not physically on an island. Community had come together before when they’ve been through something together. Starting from negative emotions doesn’t help you find success. When you come from a place of gratitude, it’s great. This is my roadmap for connecting with people. You’re still a human being, but you still have to rise up and be your best. Your pride sometimes takes away your willingness to share what you’re going through. We often don’t have models showing us how we do things different. Key piece is mentoring, models, and psychologically safe spaces where you can admit that you’re struggling. Expect people to be wrong, evil, tortuous, dishonest.Vulnerability can be perceived in many different waysStoicism is constancy. Be the rock, that is immovable. A lot of the expectation is expecting the sea to not rage, but that is not realistic. Mastering what is in your control. How we help people see they can choose what they control.How to be a transformative principal? Own your mistakes - DannyPsychological safetyAbout Danny BauerDanny Bauer helps Ruckus Makers Do School Different™ which means shifting from old, traditional, and often broken ways of educating to new, different, and innovative ways of educating.He’s written multiple bestselling books and hosts the Better Leaders Better Schools podcast which is the most downloaded show in school leadership and ranks in the TOP 0.5% of all shows worldwide.About Glenn RobbinsGlenn Robbins is the proud Superintendent of the Brigantine Public School District in Brigantine, New Jersey. His passion is harnessing a district culture that thrives on positive psychology, design thinking, futurism, innovative digital spaces, technology integration, esports, cybersecurity, Social Emotional Learning Zen Dens, and Maker cultures. In addition, Glenn encourages all students to have a voice, not only in building a school culture, but also in designing student led entrepreneur opportunities.
LinkedLeaders: You need support. Get just-in-time mentoring at LinkedLeaders.comWe’re thrilled to be sponsored by IXL. IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:Simplify and streamline technologySave teachers’ timeReliably meet Tier 1 standardsImprove student performance on state assessments🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district.

Apr 28, 2024 • 36min
MESSY Leadership with Alyssa Gallagher Transformative Principal 596
Aspirational Model Shifting MindsetEmotional Connection - Research in MESSY started at the beginning of the pandemic. There will always be the next crisis. Expectation of leaders - what’s important? Professional veneer - leave our personal outside our workplace.Establishing themselves as larger than life.Authenticity - personal and professional are more blurred. Heart, Head, and Hands - Dr. Marvin BerkowitzPresence triangle - think about the other person and how you’re delivering your message. Self-other-outsideTaking a deep breath, thinking about the relationship, moving to the perspective of the other individual. You matter, you’re not alone. Schools need you. Coaching creates a confidential space. Challenges: courage, empowering and coaching others, taken servant leadership too far, influence others to change their practice, lack of confidence, slowing down and not reacting all the time. Pleaser and MartyrDe-implementationLeaders get things done through influence.This is a Choose Your Own Adventure style of book. Two voices in our heads - Judge and PessimistHow to be a transformative principal? Carve out time to reflect. • Meaning Making: Create a shared vision and engage others by collaborating more effectively.• Emotional Connection: Build deeper, more trusting relationships to give feedback and hold difficult conversations.• Sensing the Future: Think creatively and tackle entrenched school improvement problems through experimentation and innovation.• Seizing Momentum: Be proactive, gain control of how you prioritize your time, and embrace new ways of working.• Your Presence: Build confidence by identifying the barriers that hold you back and learning how to overcome them.About Alyssa GallagherAlyssa Gallagher is the author of the book Embracing MESSY Leadership: How the Experience of 20,000 School Leaders Can Transform You and Your School. She is also the Co-Head of BTS Spark, North America, for BTS Spark, a not-for profit practice focused on bringing executive level coaching to every school leader. She has extensive experience leading schools and districts to revolutionize learning for students. Under Alyssa’s guidance Los Altos School District became a nationally recognized leader in education innovation with her work featured in Forbes, Wired, The Economist magazine and on CNN and CBS’ 60 Minutes. After two decades working within k12 education, Alyssa led the global leadership practice for The Wiseman Group, co-designing executive development strategies to enable leaders to become better ‘multipliers’ of their people’s talent. Alyssa has worked with a wide spectrum of leaders, ranging from early career professionals in her local school district to seasoned executives in Fortune 500 Companies. Alyssa enjoys working with leaders to design strategies that leverage the capability, creativity and intelligence of everyone on their team.
LinkedLeaders: You need support. Get just-in-time mentoring at LinkedLeaders.comWe’re thrilled to be sponsored by IXL. IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:Simplify and streamline technologySave teachers’ timeReliably meet Tier 1 standardsImprove student performance on state assessments🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district.