
Transformative Principal
Jethro Jones interviews instructional leaders from around the nation to learn and teach what it takes to become a transformative principal. Episodes address topics like Response to Intervention (RTI), Multi-Tiered System of Support (MTSS), Positive Behavior Interventions and Supports (PBIS), the latest advances in educational research, standards-based grading, and interviews with industry leaders like Bill Daggett, Rick Wormeli, Todd Whitaker and even people outside the education like Seth Godin, JeVon McCormick, Liz Wiseman, and more.
Latest episodes

Aug 11, 2024 • 41min
Better Teaching with Gene Tavernetti Transformative Principal 614
Everyone should have a coachThere are people who are viewed as the real prosThe difference between having a coach and “just getting better”The biggest mistake coaches make.How to mix the coach’s agenda with what the teacher is doingPersonal relationship vs. professional relationshipFocus is powerful. Teacher behavior during a training vs. teacher behavior in classroom.Teachers don’t have to be an entertainer. Coaches as a model lesson. Power Phrases and Phrases to Never Say.Teacher behavior matches the behavior of the grade they teach.Techniques that work regardless of your personality. Coaching cycles are important. Meet, observe, debrief, Check-inThis is your lesson, do it your way. Coaches need to be smiling during the observation. Debrief - how they evaluated their own lesson. Calibrate with a local coach or administrator. How to be a Transformative Principal? Know that your role is not that of a coach. Coach helps teachers get better. Principal - don’t get in the way! Part of a system of improvement.About Gene TavernettiDr. Gene Tavernetti has been involved in education for over forty years. He has served as coach, teacher, counselor, administrator, and consultant. He is the author of Teach FAST, a book about the design and delivery of quality instruction, and Maximizing the Impact of Coaching Cycles, a book that answers many of the questions that were left unanswered in most books on instructional coaching. In 2006 Gene partnered with his former high school teacher and mentor, Dr. Randy Olson, to found Total Educational Systems Support, (TESS). The focus of TESS has always been training teachers, and those who support teachers, in how to provide the best instruction possible. Dr. Tavernetti holds a core belief about children and adults: Given the right environment and proper support, everyone can improve and succeed. This core belief has allowed Dr. Tavernetti to help his students, staffs, teachers, and administrators – with whom he now trains and coaches – to attain the levels of competence they desire.
Join the Transformative Mastermind Today and work on your school, not just in it. Apply today. We’re thrilled to be sponsored by IXL. IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:Simplify and streamline technologySave teachers’ timeReliably meet Tier 1 standardsImprove student performance on state assessments🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district.

Aug 8, 2024 • 20min
Bridging Gaps in CTE with Donald Walker #udlcon
This episode is a special episode from UDL-Con, powered by CAST. CAST just released the Guidelines for (Universal Design for Learning) UDL 3.0, which you can find here. If you don't know what UDL is, it's a way to make learning accessible for everyone! You can check out more about the webinars here.Enjoy this special episode.Jethro Jones speaks with Donald Walker, National Career Technical Education Trainer at CAST. They discuss the importance of Universal Design for Learning (UDL) in Career Technical Education (CTE), the use of drones to introduce young girls to STEM, addressing barriers in education, and the empowering aspects of UDL. The conversation also addresses the importance of safety in CTE programs and how UDL helps in engaging diverse student populations.Get in touch with Donald: dwalker@cast.org00:00 Introduction to Donald Walker and the Role at CAST01:29 Importance of UDL in CTE03:08 Using Drones to Introduce Girls to STEM04:07 Developing UDL-based Curriculum06:32 Engagement, Representation, and Expression in UDL11:19 Importance of Safety in CTE13:54 Liberation Through UDL17:20 Contact and Further Involvement
Join the Transformative Mastermind Today and work on your school, not just in it. Apply today. We’re thrilled to be sponsored by IXL. IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:Simplify and streamline technologySave teachers’ timeReliably meet Tier 1 standardsImprove student performance on state assessments🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district.

Aug 6, 2024 • 20min
Fostering Student Agency with Shelley Berman #udlcon
This episode is a special episode from UDL-Con, powered by CAST. CAST just released the Guidelines for (Universal Design for Learning) UDL 3.0, which you can find here. If you don't know what UDL is, it's a way to make learning accessible for everyone! You can check out more about the webinars here.Enjoy this special episode.In this special episode recorded live at the UDL-Con: International Conference, host Jethro Jones interviews Shelley Berman, Chair of the Board at CAST, about the transformative nature of Universal Design for Learning (UDL). They explore how UDL shifts the educational focus from fixing students to fixing the educational system itself, emphasizing the importance of creating responsive and empowering learning environments.00:00 Introduction to UDL Con and Shelley Berman01:36 The Life-Changing Impact of UDL13:30 Shifting Perspectives from Students to Systems08:15 The Importance of Knowing the Students12:47 Creating Empowering Learning Environments16:48 Making Meaning in Education
Join the Transformative Mastermind Today and work on your school, not just in it. Apply today. We’re thrilled to be sponsored by IXL. IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:Simplify and streamline technologySave teachers’ timeReliably meet Tier 1 standardsImprove student performance on state assessments🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district.

Aug 4, 2024 • 34min
Curiosity and Skepticism For AI Learning with Seth Fleischauer Transformative Principal 611
Teaching distance before COVIDEnglish as a foreign language virtually and in person. How COVID remote learning laid the groundwork for virtual wellnessStudent Wellness for the internetDeveloping a personal relationship with AI that is based on curiosity and skepticism. Mindful adoption of technologyAI as a spectrumWhere AI brings out YOU!It’s not about how you USE this tech, it’s about how it augments you personally. What are the things AI can help you with and what are you already doing? How to be a transformative principal? Bring intention to your digital environments and interactions. About Seth FleischauerSeth is the president of Banyan Global Learning, which he founded in 2008 after teaching elementary school via NYC Teaching Fellows. With Banyan, Seth helps schools leverage technology for teacher and student wellness, including with AI Literacy PD for teachers and live virtual programs for students. Seth's programs have reached more than 10,000 students on three continents and touched the lives of teachers globally. He is a frequent presenter at elite edtech conferences and the host of two podcasts: "Make It Mindful: An Education Podcast" and "Why Distance Learning?"
Join the Transformative Mastermind Today and work on your school, not just in it. Apply today. We’re thrilled to be sponsored by IXL. IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:Simplify and streamline technologySave teachers’ timeReliably meet Tier 1 standardsImprove student performance on state assessments🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district.

Aug 1, 2024 • 15min
Insights from CAST's Anniversary with CEO Lindsay Jones #udlcon
This episode is a special episode from UDL-Con, powered by CAST. CAST just released the Guidelines for (Universal Design for Learning) UDL 3.0, which you can find here. If you don't know what UDL is, it's a way to make learning accessible for everyone! You can check out more about the webinars here.Enjoy this special episode.In this episode Jethro Jones interviews Lindsay Jones, CEO of CAST, during the UDL-Con: International Conference. They discuss the importance of Universal Design for Learning (UDL), the significance of in-person collaboration, and CAST's mission for the future.00:00 Introduction to the UDL Conference01:11 The Impact of UDL and the Conference Experience02:16 Future Directions for CAST and UDL Guidelines 3.003:49 The Three Main Focuses: Lead, Inspire, Convene07:23 Real-World Applications and Stories of UDL09:51 The Importance of In-Person Attendance at the Conference
Join the Transformative Mastermind Today and work on your school, not just in it. Apply today. We’re thrilled to be sponsored by IXL. IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:Simplify and streamline technologySave teachers’ timeReliably meet Tier 1 standardsImprove student performance on state assessments🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district.

Jul 31, 2024 • 17min
Does it hurt enough to change? with Andratesha Fritzgerald #udlcon
This episode is a special episode from UDL-Con, powered by CAST. CAST just released the Guidelines for (Universal Design for Learning) UDL 3.0, which you can find here. If you don't know what UDL is, it's a way to make learning accessible for everyone! You can check out more about the webinars here.Enjoy this special episode.In this episode of Transformative Principal, host Jethro Jones interviews Andratesha Fritzgerald live at the UDL-Con: International Conference. They discuss the concept of Universal Design for Learning (UDL) and its significance in making learning accessible to all students. Fritzgerald discusses the Instructional Practice Interrogation protocol, explaining how it helps educators identify and address barriers in teaching strategies. The conversation also touches on the importance of community in UDL and how traditional practices can be interrogated and adapted for better learning outcomes.Get in touch with Andratesha: Tesha@buildingblocksofbrilliance.com00:00 Introduction to UDL and CAST UDL Con01:08 Interview with Andratesha Fritzgerald01:45 Instructional Practice Interrogation Protocol02:44 Identifying and Addressing Harm in Education04:42 Setting Up Community for UDL08:16 Learning Objectives in Inquiry-Based Learning07:18 Power of Community in Learning14:58 Closing and Connecting with Andratesha
Join the Transformative Mastermind Today and work on your school, not just in it. Apply today. We’re thrilled to be sponsored by IXL. IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:Simplify and streamline technologySave teachers’ timeReliably meet Tier 1 standardsImprove student performance on state assessments🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district.

Jul 28, 2024 • 26min
Creating Phone Free Spaces with Graham Dugoni Transformative Principal 608
Vital in an education setting to experience what life is like without a phoneHow you develop character through whether you’re using a phone or not. How to help teachers not be phone police.Support throughout the whole processCommon complaints about schoolsResetting expectations about structuresSchool taking a constructive approach to support student growth and developmentHow to do a rollout. Classroom vs. School phone free spaces. Tier 1 support worked better, but needs more communication.Accompanied by a strong and clear policy and then following through. More and more students are open to the idea of being phone free. Kids are aware that being connected all the time may not be beneficial.Yes, you can teach, but they need to actually do. Clarity and community buy-in. Graham Dugoni is the founder and CEO of Yondr. Since starting the company in 2014,he has been a leading voice in the emerging conversation about the effects of phoneson society and mental health. Graham coined the terms “phone-free spaces” and“phone-free schools.” He is the product designer of the Yondr pouch and the HomeTray. His mission-driven mindset keeps the company focused on meaningful ways tohelp educators, artists, and organizations worldwide create distraction-freeenvironments where focus and creativity can flourish without technology. Graham is aformer professional soccer player and a graduate of Duke University.Please add questions that we would ask here, and you can add anything that you would like to add as well. How did you come up with the idea?How did you convert this idea into a business?How many schools/students use Yondr, and in how many countries?Was there any particular moment which stood out to you early on, when it became very clear that phone-free spaces would become incredibly important in the future?Tell us about the different spaces that Yondr makes phone-free.Why do you think phone-free schools are important?What do you say to people who say that banning phones in schools does not teach young people how to become responsible digital citizens?Yondr is a program and not a product. Why is this an important distinction, and can you explain how this works?What do students say about Yondr?
Join the Transformative Mastermind Today and work on your school, not just in it. Apply today. We’re thrilled to be sponsored by IXL. IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:Simplify and streamline technologySave teachers’ timeReliably meet Tier 1 standardsImprove student performance on state assessments🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district.

Jul 21, 2024 • 45min
Hats, Tats, and UDL with Bryan Dean Transformative Principal 607
Giving UDL away for freeBuilding products through grantsPeople think UDL is static, but it isn’t. Identity is important. UDL is human centric, not student centric.How UDL invites students to take ownership of their learning experiences. Do you feel behind? “What if I could have gone through school feeling unencumbered?” Expert Learners vs. executive functioningBounded autonomy. Assumptions about student learning. Joy Zabala - You can’t boil the oceanUDL Con is an ExperienceAI, Accessibility, UDL Guidelines 3.0UDL Con - where the guidelines will be released. CAST.org - check out the projects and resources. How to be a transformative principal? Ghostwalks - walk with nobody there in your school. What is being said by what is on the walls and in the classroom. About Bryan DeanBryan Dean is CAST's Innovation Specialist. Bryan has been working with hard-to-reach students with emotional impairments, conduct disorder, behavioral difficulties, and low interest for more than 20 years. Bryan has experience designing professional learning around learner experience design, specially-designed instruction, Universal Design for Learning, new teacher induction, Design Thinking, deep learning, and strategies for students in emotional dysregulation. In addition to the designing of professional learning, he has designed virtual learning environments, worked on longitudinal system implementation and design, designed organizational culture and climate/culture change models, and developed a unique UDL coaching system based on appreciative and ontological coaching matrices.
Join the Transformative Mastermind Today and work on your school, not just in it. Apply today. We’re thrilled to be sponsored by IXL. IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:Simplify and streamline technologySave teachers’ timeReliably meet Tier 1 standardsImprove student performance on state assessments🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district.

Jul 14, 2024 • 33min
Sigh, See, Start with Alison Escalante Transformative Principal 606
ShouldStorm - Culture of perfectionism and criticismWe as parents want to do what is best for our kids, but we are bombarded by everyone telling us what we should and should not do. Finding the “right” answer.Defining “expert”How the ShouldStorm impacts our kidsWe like to blame social media, but it really comes from what we talk about in our communities. What matters is not the college but the student.If you play someone else’s game, you will always lose, if you’re playing your own game, you can’t lose. Sigh, See, Start: transitions you from the anxiety of the ShouldStorm, to connection with your kids. The sigh is a built-in mechanism in our bodies, breathe out long and slow - sends a message to our body that we are OK. Vagus nerve turns on prefrontal cortex. See - moment of mindfulness - see your child. Noticing, not doing. Start - run an experiment about how to help the situation. Built on a faith that is scientifically grounded, you (and your kids) are more capable than you think (and than the world will tell you are). Emphasizing repairAlison Escalante, M.D., is a pediatrician, speaker, and author of Sigh, See, Start: How to Be the Parent Your Child Needs in a World That Won’t Stop Pushing. In a perfectionistic parenting culture that tells you that you are never enough no matter how much you do for your kids, this unique approach empowers you with a simple parenting technique to gain confidence, remain grounded, and connect positively with your children.
Join the Transformative Mastermind Today and work on your school, not just in it. Apply today. We’re thrilled to be sponsored by IXL. IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:Simplify and streamline technologySave teachers’ timeReliably meet Tier 1 standardsImprove student performance on state assessments🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district.

Jul 7, 2024 • 50min
Finding Localized Solutions With Dr. Joshua Barnett Transformative Principal 605
Dr. Joshua Barnett is an educational thought leader who has spent his career working to improve the effectiveness of teacher leaders. In an interview, he discussed how teacher leaders can establish trust, develop deep instructional knowledge, and build credibility with their colleagues. He also shared his thoughts on why the teaching profession is challenged with recruitment and turnover and how teacher leaders can be a key solution to helping principals manage the teaching situation. Barnett emphasized the importance of getting it right, rather than being right, and reminded us that localized solutions are often the most effective.Bringing professional learning to effective teacher leaders. Supported over 300,000 educators and 3.5 million studentsHow teacher leadership matters. Engage with and serve as the bridge between the leadership team and the rest of the schoolProvide instructional support - Collaboration with other teachersCoaching other adultsInstructional feedback1. Establish trust2. Deep instructional knowledgeIdentify the needs of other adults3. CredibilityOwnership of their learningHow do we help them take ownership of their learningWhat is the expectation that teachers have by going?Autonomy, capacity, and supportTeacher leader as conduit from national/regional training. The only learning that is valued is the “approved” learning. System-wide approach to help teacher leaders take on an approachWhy is our profession challenged with recruitment and turnover. Committed to building educator effectiveness. Practical conversations - teacher leaders are a key solution to helping principals manage the teaching situation. Get it right, rather than being right. Reminded vs. instructed.Localized solutions.How the role of the principal plays into this paradigm. District-based certification modelHow to be a transformative principal? Key strategy is to rely on teacher leaders for success. Giving them the time to go through the building and have a conversation. Dr. Joshua Barnett is NIET's chief executive officer, responsible for overseeing all of the organization's operations including service delivery, research and evaluation, professional learning and learning technology development, policy and communications, financial operations, and higher education partnerships. He is also the author of Unleashing Teacher Leadership: A Toolkit for Ensuring Effective Instruction in Every Classroom Previously, Josh served as president and chief operating officer for NIET, where he supported NIET partnerships with strategic oversight of research, NIET's higher education innovation, and service delivery. He was also the principal leader and investigator for NIET's successful federal projects. He has been with NIET since January 2013 when he joined as the organization's senior vice president of research and evaluation. In that role, he led NIET's research agenda and production of evidentiary support for all initiatives and grant programs. He also directed all external evaluation projects and research services.Josh's research work throughout his career has explored how to improve educator quality in all schools for all students by addressing two related issues: examining how teachers and principals are evaluated and how resources are distributed to and used within schools.Before joining NIET, Josh worked as an assistant professor of education policy and evaluation at Arizona State University, a visiting scholar at Massey University in New Zealand and a research associate in the Office for Education Policy at the University of Arkansas.Josh has taught courses in research methods, school finance, evaluation, and educational psychology; worked as an evaluator for nearly three dozen federal and state grants; served as an evaluator for the U.S. Institute of Education Sciences; and worked with local, state and national government agencies and organizations on projects aimed at improving educator effectiveness.He is author of Unleashing Teacher Leadership: A Toolkit for Ensuring Effective Instruction in Every Classroom and has been published in a variety of outlets, including Review of Educational Research, Teachers College Record, Educational Leadership, New Zealand Education Review, and Issues in Teacher Education. He is also co-author of A Straightforward Guide to Teacher Merit Pay: Encouraging and Rewarding Schoolwide Improvement and Learning on the Job: How Evaluation Systems Can Support Teacher Growth.
Join the Transformative Mastermind Today and work on your school, not just in it. Apply today. We’re thrilled to be sponsored by IXL. IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:Simplify and streamline technologySave teachers’ timeReliably meet Tier 1 standardsImprove student performance on state assessments🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district.