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Jan 26, 2023 • 57min

Luke, Sacred Time, and the Church

To an extent which must be amusing to some, surprising to others, and perhaps even a bit unsettling to still others, all year long Greystone seems to be asking the question, what time is it? Is this a question the Scriptures themselves invite us to ask?From Genesis forward, including the long history of the Church since Pentecost, the people of God have recognized, confessed, and taught the theological significance of marking time. This conviction and practice is rooted in the determination to locate time among the things of creation, and thus not as an eternal attribute of God or some eternal principle existing alongside him. As part of creation, time derives its meaning and purpose not from the principles of history as such, or from purely pragmatic concerns of human and national life, nor even from general theological realities such as our doctrine of providence, but from that reality which is prior to and accounts for all of these: the Son of God himself. Time, biblically, derives its form (and thus its meaning and function) from the Son, as all features of the ritual realty of creation do. Thus biblical scholars and theologians, sensitive to how God himself explains these things, rightly point to the sun, moon, and stars of the Genesis creation narrative and the installation of Israel’s festal calendar in Lev. 23 as constitutive and formative of the relationship God’s people have to time. Scholars have also demonstrated, at great length, that this is not unique to the OT nor limited to a pre-Christ state of affairs but obtains in the NT as well. This is especially the case in work on the Gospel of John, which orders the early Church’s liturgical life by telling the story of Jesus not merely as the typological fulfillment of but also as the original and abiding meaning of that festal calendar: the form of the Son accounted for the festal calendar and his contours of birth, life, humiliation, death, resurrection, ascension, blessedness, and the like, are traced out for us in every generation by the contours of time itself, when properly interpreted and described. Thus the Church marks her time throughout the year by the same contours, though on the other side of the empty tomb, with the language often used for these contour points, namely, the so-called evangelical feast days.For this episode of Greystone Conversations, Dr. Mark A. Garcia sits down with a longtime friend of Greystone’s, Jack Franicevich, a teacher and an Anglican clergyman. Jack has written a book on how Luke’s gospel uses the OT’s liturgical institutions, including the festal calendar, to frame a new history for the Church, one that includes the special character of the Lord’s day. As Jack notes, Luke is the only NT theological historian to tell not one but two stories that each begin with the phrase, “on the first day of the week.”Besides publishing his research on Luke and sacred time in the life of the Church, Jack is also going to lead a Greystone microcourse in Coraopolis, PA and online exploring this subject matter this coming spring 2023. If you’re listening to this episode before that time, we heartily encourage you to consider signing up for this online and on-site micro-course as soon as you can.
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Jan 19, 2023 • 1h 1min

Eloquence Wed to Wisdom

In today’s episode of Greystone Conversations, we conclude to our conversation regarding craftsmanship and workmanship, and consider what might account for the resurgence of interest in craftmanship and the trades. This is the final episode in our five part series.For today’s Greystone Conversations episode, Dr. Mark A. Garcia is joined by Mr. Michael Sacasas and Mr. Joshua Klein, both fellows at Greystone who will be instrumental in the apprenticeship mode of Greystone new Mechanical Arts Program. 
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Jan 11, 2023 • 1h

Situated Creatures: The Ethics of Skill, Perception, and Habit

In today’s episode of Greystone Conversations, we return to our conversation regarding craftsmanship and workmanship, and consider the ethics of workmanship in skill, perception, and habit. This is the forth episode in our five part series.For today’s Greystone Conversations episode, Dr. Mark A. Garcia is joined by Mr. Michael Sacasas and Mr. Joshua Klein, both fellows at Greystone who will be instrumental in the apprenticeship mode of Greystone new Mechanical Arts Program. 
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Jan 4, 2023 • 60min

Durability, Diversity, and Value of Work: The End(s) in View

In today’s episode of Greystone Conversations, we return to our conversation regarding craftsmanship and workmanship, and consider today the ends in view of such a theory of workmanship we have endeavored to express. This is the third episode in our five part series.For today’s Greystone Conversations episode, Dr. Mark A. Garcia is joined by Mr. Michael Sacasas and Mr. Joshua Klein, both fellows at Greystone who will be instrumental in the apprenticeship mode of Greystone new Mechanical Arts Program. 
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Dec 28, 2022 • 60min

Workmanship of Risk vs. Workmanship of Certainty

In today’s episode of Greystone Conversations, we return to our conversation regarding craftsmanship and workmanship, and consider today the special significance of David Pye to our overall interest in this series. This is the second episode in our five part series, and today we want to consider the very definition of craftsmanship and the larger discussion that that has long been a part of and which bears—in increasingly relevant ways—upon how we think about theological education, about ministry in the church, about relationships generally and to one another, and our relationship to God's world.For today’s Greystone Conversations episode, Dr. Mark A. Garcia is joined by Mr. Michael Sacasas and Mr. Joshua Klein, both fellows at Greystone who will be instrumental in the apprenticeship mode of Greystone new Mechanical Arts Program. 
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Dec 21, 2022 • 1h 24min

Forming In and For Wisdom: Introducing the Greystone MAP

Welcome to Greystone Conversations and the first episode in this special series focused on explaining and commending an exciting new initiative at Greystone Theological Institute, which in one way is rather unique and in other ways is deeply traditional. And as you have perhaps come to expect, or at least we hope you have come to expect, the combination of something that is new with something that is in fact very old—making old things new—is very much a key concern for the Greystone Way.We can hardly think of a better example of this effort and this interest than the new Greystone initiative program we are able to discuss starting in this episode and for several episodes to come. That is the Mechanical Arts Program (MAP) at Greystone. Right from the start, we're going to want to clarify what we do and do not mean by mechanical arts, but that will become clear enough as we discuss and explain this fascinating, very old, and yet very timely way of looking at faithfulness, wisdom, and the call that we all have to thoughtful engagement with one another and with the world of God's creation and providence.For today’s Greystone Conversations episode, Dr. Mark A. Garcia is joined by Mr. Michael Sacasas and Mr. Joshua Klein, both fellows at Greystone who will be instrumental in the apprenticeship mode of the MAP. 
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Dec 7, 2022 • 60min

The Disruptive Church (and How Greystone Is Helping the Cause)

It is trendy these days to be disruptive. Though it is a word that may seem to refer to a negative reality, “disruptive” is a word used in business, academic, and in many other contexts to refer to an upset that is needed and salutary. Is there a sense in which the concept and language of disruption may help the Church capture something important about her identity and nature, and how does the answer to this question inform who Greystone is and what Greystone is doing?Culturally, we live in a time when upsetting the status quo is appealing, exciting, and assumed to be necessary for the common good. We are all revolutionaries now, and revolution is the new normal. To the same extent, and probably for similar reasons, tradition, age, and established ways are unappealing, and pejoratively characterized in terms of sterility and stagnation. As you know well by now, Greystone shares neither of these assumptions and in fact labors quite explicitly against these trends in all that we do. Still, the concept of disruption does commend something to us regarding the Church and her place in the world that is both traditional and timely. In this episode of Greystone Conversations, we sit down once more with Pastor Jesse Crutchley of the Greystone Chesapeake Learning Community at Severn Run Evangelical Presbyterian Church (PCA), and we run the concept of disruption through the filter of the three elements of the order of reality: time, space, and vocation. This in turn sets up a frankly rather exciting moment in Greystone’s life as we are then able to announce a key degree program collaboration that we suspect many of our listeners will want to know about. For more on that announcement, you can chase your time with this episode with a heavy dose of our brand new website, greystoneinstitute.org.As we now sit down again with Pastor Crutchley, let us also thank you once again for spending some time with Greystone today to reflect together on the shape and direction of greater faithfulness to our triune God. Your prayers, support, and partnership truly mean a great deal to us and to the many we are honored to serve. Thank you.
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Nov 9, 2022 • 1h 9min

Dividing Scripture: Chuck Hill on the First Chapter Divisions

The form of the Word belongs to the meaning of the Word, and this includes its providentially ordered literary presentation. How do the Church’s ways of dividing up the Scriptures inform the way the Church has heard and read the Scriptures?We at Greystone were very pleased to speak recently with Prof. Charles (Chuck) Hill, Professor Emeritus of New Testament and Early Christianity at Reformed Theological Seminary in Orlando. We’ve long benefitted from Professor Hill’s meticulous attention to matters of text and reception, and his exemplary standards of scholarship. He retired from his regular post at RTS in 2021 but thankfully continues to be quite active and productive, and you can see something of his prodigious output if you visit his faculty page at the RTS website. Professor Hill’s most recent book, called, The First Chapters: Dividing the Text of Scripture in Codex Vaticanus and Its Predecessors, published by Oxford in 2022, is the focus of today’s episode of Greystone Conversations.As the posted book description explains, Hill’s book, The First Chapters, uncovers the origins of the first paragraph or chapter divisions in copies of the Christian Scriptures. Its focal point is the magnificent, fourth-century Codex Vaticanus (Vat.gr. 1209; B 03), perhaps the single most significant ancient manuscript of the Bible, and the oldest material witness to what may be the earliest set of numbered chapter divisions of the Bible. The First Chapters tells the history of textual division, starting from when copies of Greek literary works used virtually no spaces, marks, or other graphic techniques to assist the reader. It explores the origins of other numbering systems, like the better-known Eusebian Canons, but its theme is the first set of numbered chapters in Codex Vaticanus, what nineteenth-century textual critic Samuel P. Tregelles labelled the Capitulatio Vaticana. It demonstrates that these numbers were not, as most have claimed, late additions to the codex but belonged integrally to its original production. The First Chaptersthen breaks new ground by showing that the Capitulatio Vaticana has real precursors in some much earlier manuscripts. It thus casts light on a long, continuous tradition of scribally-placed, visual guides to the reading and interpreting of Scriptural books. Finally, The First Chapters exposes abundant new evidence that this early system for marking the sense-divisions of Scripture has played a much greater role in the history of exegesis than has previously been imaginable.In other words, these markings have hermeneutical, and thus theological significance.
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Oct 3, 2022 • 56min

Death, Courage, and Eschatology

Today we reflect on death, courage, and eschatology. Death and eschatology are often connected, of course, but courage takes its shape in relation to both of them. The questions that may elucidate the relationship could be put this way: How do my occasional experiences of great loss or of major life changes help prepare me for my death? Where is courage in that picture? And is there a relationship between (1) eschatologies that emphasize continuities between the present order and the future, consummated order and (2) the domestication of death (as the minimization of the radical and mysterious change that awaits us in it). Might the domestication of death relate to a lack of courage as well?After a lengthy hiatus, Greystone Conversations is back! The reasons for that hiatus will soon be made public, our Lord willing, and if they are then we think you’ll be encouraged that the radio silence of our podcast has been a result of necessary labor in other directions, which we pray will yield great fruit for the Lord and his Church. We look forward to announcing those updates soon, but until then we are excited to roll out a few new podcast episodes recorded during this interval. In these conversations, we had the great pleasure of speaking with two truly fascinating and helpful guests who are leading scholars in theology and biblical studies: Drs. Matthew Levering and Charles (Chuck) Hill, and we will also have Pastor Jesse Crutchley on the podcast again to talk about Greystone’s theological vision and mission in relation to the concept of disruptive economies. In today’s episode, Dr. Mark Garcia, President and Fellow in Scripture and Theology at Greystone Theological Institute, speaks with Dr. Levering about a difficult yet increasingly explored topic: death. Drawing from his own personal experience as well as the long virtues tradition of Christian ethics, Dr. Matthew Levering has put together a collection of essays that use death as a foil for unpacking and exploring the content of the virtues, and sometimes with rather surprising results. The book is called, Dying and the Virtues, and the theme we were most interested in was the theme of courage with which Dr. Levering closes his book. Courage in the face of death, he suggests, is required not only at the time of death, but also in the midst of the many times God providentially leads us through the experiences of significant loss or significant change—providential experiences in which we can say, in fact, that God is preparing us for the greatest transition of all death. Personally I have to say I have found that simple observation deeply moving, profound, and challenging, and it has come to mind many times since I first read Dr. Levering’s relatively brief discussion of it. Listen in as we discuss this idea with Dr. Levering.
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Oct 6, 2021 • 50min

Theological Faithfulness in Difficult Times: Remembering James Ussher

What is the form and dynamic of faithful ministry and theology in a contested time? And in what ways might those with Reformed Anglican sympathies appreciate and capitalize upon the very best of that tradition without falling for Anglo-catholicism? Perhaps surprisingly, both of these questions come together in one figure: the famous Archbishop of Armaugh, James Ussher.On 30 October at Greystone Cardiff and online, Greystone is hosting a special lecture series event called "Theological Ministry in a Contested World: James Ussher as Reformed Churchman," with Dr. Harrison Perkins, scholar of early modern Reformed theology and minister at London City Presbyterian Church in London. You can find out more about this event and register for it at Greystone’s website, greystoneinstitute.org   Dr. Garcia had the pleasure of talking with Dr. Perkins recently about his upcoming talks at Greystone Cardiff, about an exciting translated and edited collection of some hitherto unpublished works by Ussher forthcoming from Westminster Seminary Press, and about Ussher’s perhaps surprising relevance and importance in our day. As Ussher in particular and Reformed Anglicanism in general are enjoying a revival of serious interest among confessional Reformed Christians, surefooted and clear-sighted guidance into this giant of the Reformed tradition is very welcome, and Dr. Perkins provides just that.

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