
At a Distance
A podcast about the bigger picture. Host Spencer Bailey calls on leading minds, from scientists and technologists to artists and climate activists, to zoom out and look at some of the planet’s most pressing issues from a whole-earth, long-view perspective.
Latest episodes

Oct 10, 2022 • 32min
David Chalmers on the Glorious Possibilities of Virtual Worlds
Philosopher David Chalmers, author of the book “Reality+: Virtual Worlds and the Problems of Philosophy” and co-director of the N.Y.U. Center for Mind, Brain, and Consciousness, speaks with us about his predictions of where A.I. is heading; why he doesn’t rule out a “Google level” of consciousness; and how, rather than a single version of utopia, multiple utopias could reveal themselves through a “dynamic process of search.”Episode sponsored by Grand Seiko.

Oct 3, 2022 • 32min
Batja Mesquita on Finding Common Ground Through Emotional Understanding
Social psychologist Batja Mesquita, author of the new book “Between Us: How Cultures Create Emotions” and director of the Center for Social and Cultural Psychology in Leuven, Belgium, discusses the vast impacts that social conditions can have on human emotions, the importance of remaining humble in our perceptions of each other, and why social media tends to amplify a Western emotional perspective.Episode sponsored by Grand Seiko.

Sep 26, 2022 • 23min
Joseph Awuah-Darko on Growing Ghana’s Cultural and Creative Renaissance
Joseph Awuah-Darko, the founder and director of Institute Museum of Ghana and the Noldor Artist Residency in Accra, talks with us about creating the country’s first independent arts residency and fellowship program for African artists; his ongoing research efforts targeting e-waste; and the importance of creating sustained longevity for, and critical discourse around, African contemporary art.Episode sponsored by Grand Seiko.

Sep 19, 2022 • 33min
Jane Poynter on Space Travel as a Pathway to Shifting Perspectives
Jane Poynter, co-founder and co-CEO of the space travel company Space Perspective, speaks with us about her two years inside the Biosphere 2 research facility in Arizona in the early nineties, the vast power and potential of commercial spaceflight, and why she thought humans would be on Mars by now.Episode sponsored by Grand Seiko.

Sep 12, 2022 • 35min
Kyle Smitley on Building a Craft-Forward Approach to Education
Kyle Smitley, the founder and executive director of the nonprofit charter schools Detroit Achievement Academy and Detroit Prep, talks with us about her entrepreneurial path to education; joy, comfort, and belonging as essential to school culture; and the value of listening to community feedback. Episode sponsored by Grand Seiko.

Aug 15, 2022 • 40min
Stephen Marche on Why the United States Should Be Concerned About a Civil War
Canadian novelist, essayist, and cultural commentator Stephen Marche, author of the new book The Next Civil War: Dispatches from the American Future, discusses the bleak potential of a civil war–scale event occurring in the U.S. in the not-so-distant future, why national lack of trust in the Supreme Court portends fractious violence, and the hope that remains for the country to be able to reinvent itself.

Jul 18, 2022 • 34min
Jens Martin Skibsted on Rethinking “Design Thinking”
Danish designer and entrepreneur Jens Martin Skibsted, co-author of the new book “Expand: Stretching the Future by Design” and a partner of the firm Manyone, speaks with us about how to practice long-view thinking in a fast-paced world, science fiction as a design tool, and why “human-centered” approaches to design might not be such a good thing.

May 23, 2022 • 49min
Tony Fadell on How to Build Culture-Shifting Products
iPod inventor, iPhone co-inventor, and Nest founder Tony Fadell, principal of the investment and advisory firm Future Shape, and author of the new book “Build: An Unorthodox Guide to Making Things Worth Making,” talks with us about learning through failure, why developing product and story goes hand in hand, and the greatest misconceptions about Apple’s ability to innovate.

Apr 18, 2022 • 37min
John Markoff on the Whole Earth Impact of Stewart Brand
Veteran technology journalist John Markoff, author of the new biography “Whole Earth: The Many Lives of Stewart Brand,” discusses the forces that have helped Brand forecast the future, the great value in Brand’s “eco-pragmatist” perspective, and why the next tech innovation is likely to come out of left field.

Apr 4, 2022 • 37min
Jeff Rosenthal on the Art of Building a Community
Jeff Rosenthal, co-founder of the global platform Summit, which organizes events and experiences for entrepreneurs, academics, athletes, artists, and others, speaks with us about the value of mystery in storytelling, generosity as a tool for cultivating community, and why anything that’s truly worth building can’t be done alone.
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