

At a Distance
The Slowdown
A podcast about the bigger picture. Host Spencer Bailey calls on leading minds, from scientists and technologists to artists and climate activists, to zoom out and look at some of the planet’s most pressing issues from a whole-earth, long-view perspective.
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Jul 20, 2020 • 40min
Azeem Azhar on the Collision Course of Tech, Politics, and the Climate Crisis
Entrepreneur, analyst, strategist, and investor Azeem Azhar, creator of the Exponential View newsletter and podcast, speaks with us about Covid-19’s impact on surveillance, the role of the smartphone in contemporary society, and the emergence of “climate tech” companies.

Jul 16, 2020 • 40min
Toni Blackman on Hip-Hop Meditation and Music as Medicine
Activist, artist, M.C., and music educator Toni Blackman talks with us about establishing a breathwork practice, the links between spirituality and hip-hop, and the healing power of music to shift our hearts and minds.

Jul 15, 2020 • 39min
Cennydd Bowles on Designing a More Inclusive Future
Futurist, designer, and ethicist Cennydd Bowles discusses why design often creates as many problems as it solves, the failures of “design thinking,” and the importance of bringing a longer-term perspective to addressing systemic changes.

Jul 13, 2020 • 43min
David Zilber on Fermentation as a Commitment to Your Future
Chef David Zilber, the former head of the fermentation lab at Noma, speaks with us about the symbiosis between microbes and mankind, science as a tool for thinking about food from new perspectives, and his hopes for shaking up our complex, deeply broken global food systems.

Jul 9, 2020 • 38min
Mitchell Joachim on What Civilization 2.0 Looks Like
Architect and urban designer Mitchell Joachim, co-founder of the firm Terreform One and co-author of the new book “Design with Life: Biotech Architecture and Resilient Cities,” talks with us about the idea of utopia, the future of capitalism, and why, coming out of Covid-19, we’re going to start thinking again of ourselves as citizens instead of consumers.

Jul 8, 2020 • 40min
Margaret Klein Salamon on the Dire Realities of the Climate Emergency
Margaret Klein Salamon, the founding director of the advocacy organization The Climate Mobilization and author of the new book “Facing the Climate Emergency: How to Transform Yourself with Climate Truth,” discusses the psychological impacts of the climate crisis, the need for a collective awakening, and why we need to be explicit about the policies we advocate for to prevent the collapse of civilization.

Jul 6, 2020 • 43min
Jeremy Lent on Covid-19 as a Dress Rehearsal for Bigger Breakdowns
Jeremy Lent, the founder of the Liology Institute and author of “The Patterning Instinct: A Cultural History of Humanity's Search for Meaning,” speaks with us about how corporations have become the “ruling force” in our world today, the vast impact of the internet on mankind, and why we need to broaden our thinking about the long-term implications of the coronavirus pandemic.

Jul 2, 2020 • 36min
Rob Dunn on the Wonders of the Microbial World Around Us
Biologist Rob Dunn, an applied ecology professor at North Carolina State University and the author of several books, including “Never Home Alone: From Microbes to Millipedes, Camel Crickets, and Honeybees, the Natural History of Where We Live,” talks with us about his studies into sourdough starters, the impact of fast food and industrial farming on our gut’s “garden,” and the transformative nature of embracing global networks and communication.

Jul 1, 2020 • 37min
Matthew E. Kahn on Remaining Optimistic About Capitalism
Economist Matthew E. Kahn, the Bloomberg Distinguished Professor of Economics and Business at Johns Hopkins University and the director of the university’s 21st Century Cities Initiative, discusses the idea of the American Dream, his support for a per-ton carbon tax, and why, because of the climate crisis, he doesn’t believe in homeownership.

Jun 29, 2020 • 33min
Jennifer Rauch on Why We Need a Slower, Healthier Media Ecosystem
Jennifer Rauch, the author of the book “Slow Media: Why Slow is Satisfying, Sustainable, and Smart,” speaks with us about the benefits of occasionally unplugging from technology and abstaining from the news, the effects of Covid-19 on media consumption, and the joy of boredom.