The Price of Music

Your weekly guide to the music biz and how it all works. In this week’s episode of The Price of Music, Steve and Stu get stuck into a late-year flurry of big news:"This could be the death knell for small venues" – enormous increases in business rates are coming for UK venues – Steve has a lot to say about how a seemingly-innocuous business rates policy point in the recent UK budget may prove to have a devastating effect;UK band Los Campesinos! have laid bare their streaming royalties – by publishing some numbers for their 2024 album ‘All Hell’ – and it's fascinating (and sobering) info;The UK government has launched an urgent major inquiry into how the country's live industry works – but why, and what are they trying to find out?How safe is the music industry to work in for young people?Stu's big number is 200 million – and there's a good chance you're one of them;More evidence that the music biz might not be ready to truly deal with AI-music;Christmas is coming, so for the heritage-rock-music fan in your life, what stocking-fillers are Mick Jagger and The Kinks selling?And in the special post-show lock-in section just for our Patreon Superfans, Steve and Stu prop themselves at the bar to chat about:In Spotify Wrapped, Stuart’s ‘listening age’ was a sprightly 20... so why is that?And what is Steve's 'listening age'?Which of Steve and Stu are most anxious about next week's TPOM Christmas Quiz?A veteran DJ thinks that phones are ruining dancefloors. His solution... is hardly less dystopian.In Stu's quest to make up for insulting the whole of Australia (see last week's show...) he has news of something positive Olivia Dean is doing down under.As ever, we welcome your feedback, emails and – in particular – any questions you might have about how the music biz works!Email us: ⁠⁠thepriceofmusicpodcast@gmail.com⁠⁠See you next week!Steve and Stuart======Support The Price of Music on Patreon:⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/ThePriceofMusic⁠⁠Follow Steve on X - @steve_lamacqFollow Stuart on X - @stuartdredgeFollow The Price of Music on X - @PriceofMusicpodFor sponsorship opportunities, please email - ⁠⁠joe@musically.com

Your weekly guide to the music biz and how it all works. In this week’s episode of The Price of Music, Steve and Stu pull on their Santa hats and get stuck in to:Spotify Wrapped 2025 has just launched (and has now taken over your social feeds) But why is it such a big deal this year?Steve answers a great listener question: "why don’t more bands and venues do afternoon gigs for people who can't stay out late?"Olivia Dean is the breakout British star this year... and is now taking on Ticketmaster – but why?Is it or isn't it Jorja Smith? (It isn't). She's at the centre of a row about AI technology and vocal soundalikes.Stu's big number this week is £134 million – and indie labels have spent it... but on what?Part 654 of the "Universal wants to buy indie firm Downtown Music" storyLast week we predicted that AI music firm Suno might finally sign licensing deals... and two hours after we recorded, they did! So who’s the partner?Why have Oasis reopened their pop-up merch stores in London and Dublin? (VFX: Sleigh bells jingling)And in the special post-show lock-in section just for our Patreon Superfans, Steve and Stu prop themselves at the bar to chat about:When bands implode spectacularly: Steve and Stu revel in the story of Portland death metal band Vitriol, who abandoned their frontman at a remote gas station, mid tourIs Spotify Wrapped a good thing?Stu accidentally insults all of AustraliaSteve and Stu chat more about matinee gigs and weigh up the pros and cons (and their boozing opportunities)Stu has a news based joke about Johnny Cash, his song ‘A Boy Named Sue’, and the Coca-Cola corporationWould you like an art print of Amy Winehouse in the bath? (It’s not as creepy as that sounds…)🎄🎄 DON'T FORGET TO SUBMIT YOUR QUESTIONS FOR OUR XMAS QUIZ! (SUPERFANS: https://www.patreon.com/posts/price-of-music-n-144529777 AND FANS: https://www.patreon.com/posts/price-of-music-n-144542513) 🎄🎄As ever, we welcome your feedback, emails and – in particular – any questions you might have about how the music biz works!Email us: ⁠⁠thepriceofmusicpodcast@gmail.com⁠⁠See you next week!Steve and Stuart======Support The Price of Music on Patreon:⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/ThePriceofMusic⁠⁠Follow Steve on X - @steve_lamacqFollow Stuart on X - @stuartdredgeFollow The Price of Music on X - @PriceofMusicpodFor sponsorship opportunities, please email - ⁠⁠joe@musically.com

A gig cancellation due to an exploding toilet raises questions about refunds for the band and fans. The podcast explores Spotify's potential price increase in the U.S. and its implications for artists. AI's growing role in music is discussed, with major labels striking deals with tech companies. Stuart shares insights from his interview regarding a new levy to support grassroots venues in the UK. Meanwhile, the financial success of Baby Shark continues to surprise, showcasing its lasting impact on the music industry.

One more round? The post-show "lock-in" is just for our ⁠⁠Patreon Superfans⁠⁠ - try it for FREE!: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/c/thepriceofmusic/membership====Your weekly guide to the music biz and how it all works. In this week’s episode of The Price of Music, Steve and Stu pour a couple of foaming pints of:Stu’s Big Number is 10 million – but how does it relate to the premature jingling of Christmas bells?The UK government has announced that tickets will soon only be able to be resold at face value – but will the law work in reality?Why don't some venues share set times for concerts? (And if you knew when the artists were onstage would you arrive earlier or later?)Paul McCartney's released a completely silent song - but why?Why has a UK radio DJ spent 24 hours playing songs that peaked at number two in the charts? (‘Number two' is a clue.)Metal legends Megadeth have released their own beerSpotify is shaking up its subscription tiers as a test in five countries. What does it say about its future plans elsewhere in the world?Veteran British band Squeeze are releasing a brand new album... of songs written when they were teenagers.Why is streaming service Tidal adding an ‘upload’ feature for DIY artists?And in the special post-show lock-in section just for our Patreon Superfans, Steve and Stu prop themselves at the bar to chat about:Steve weighs in on venues and artists announcing venue stage times - who is it good for, and how might doing this harm venues? (Read the piece this relates to here: https://markdavyd.substack.com/p/the-room-where-it-happens)Stu’s Megadeth beer taste test (spoiler: it’s very hoppy)Steve recalls a time when he and Suggs were forced to drink Madness’ own beerMariah Carey is starting to dominate the charts again… so when is it appropriate to start playing Christmas music?As ever, we welcome your feedback, emails and – in particular – any questions you might have about how the music biz works!Email us: ⁠⁠thepriceofmusicpodcast@gmail.com⁠⁠See you next week!Steve and Stuart======Support The Price of Music on Patreon:⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/ThePriceofMusic⁠⁠Follow Steve on X - @steve_lamacqFollow Stuart on X - @stuartdredgeFollow The Price of Music on X - @PriceofMusicpodFor sponsorship opportunities, please email - ⁠⁠joe@musically.com

Explore the intriguing decision by The 1975 to delete a song from streaming platforms. Discover how a study shows listeners struggle to differentiate between AI-generated music and human-made tracks. Dive into the secrets behind Fleetwood Mac's enduring popularity and the remarkable £8 billion contribution music made to the UK economy in a single year. Plus, learn about a vinyl record made from coal dust and the unique promotion of Thundercat’s remix using a bone-conduction lollipop.

This week, a fascinating financial twist reveals Billie Eilish's $11.5 million donations tied to her tour. Universal collaborates with Udio to launch a licensed AI music service, stirring debates about royalties. Meanwhile, Spotify faces backlash over controversial ICE ads. The music scene sees a historic shift with no rap tracks in the US Top 40, prompting speculation about industry changes. Plus, a UK startup introduces a unique tech to protect artists from AI scraping. Dive into the music biz’s latest dynamics!

Bonus episode! Steve is joined by Lord Kevin Brennan, the ex-MP – and now member of the UK's House of Lords – who is also a musician, and has been described as “a writer of songs and a righter of wrongs.”He talks to Steve about his leadership of the UK parliament’s new fan-led review of live and electronic music, with the aim of improving the sustainability of grassroots live and electronic music to safeguard the success of the wider UK music industry.. You can take part in this review right now – just go to https://committees.parliament.uk/work/9161The initiative seeks to place fans’ voices at the centre of decisions about ticketing, venues, accessibility, and transport, similar to football’s fan-led reform from a few years ago. Lord Brennan stresses that live music depends on fair treatment of fans and transparency over ticket pricing, fees, and resale practices. Lord Brennan argues for a “fans’ charter” to ensure shared values across the live sector, from small venues to major promoters. Drawing from his experience in Parliament and his previous inquiry into music streaming, he also explains how policy can protect grassroots venues, improve access and late-night transport, and encourage community ownership models. He also exclusively reveals the future plans for his cross-party, all-MP band with the pun-tastic name of... “MP4”.As ever, we welcome your feedback, emails and – in particular – any questions you might have about how the music biz works!Email us: ⁠⁠⁠thepriceofmusicpodcast@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠See you next week!Steve and Stuart======Support The Price of Music on Patreon:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/ThePriceofMusic⁠⁠⁠Follow Steve on X - @steve_lamacqFollow Stuart on X - @stuartdredgeFollow The Price of Music on X - @PriceofMusicpodFor sponsorship opportunities, please email - ⁠⁠⁠joe@musically.com

Steve and Stu dive into intriguing listener questions about the music industry. They explore why ticket prices can differ significantly at the same venue, revealing factors like demand and production costs. A real-world comparison between Maximo Park and Suede highlights this disparity. The duo also tackles the issue of missing songwriter credits on streaming platforms, discussing how gaps in metadata affect payments. Plus, they hint at an exciting upcoming bonus interview with a member of the House of Lords focused on grassroots music sustainability.

Your weekly guide to the music biz and how it all works. In this week’s episode of The Price of Music, Steve and Stu crunch the numbers and figure out...Exactly how much does a Mercury prizewinner’s streams really go up after a win?Spotify is going to make a licensed AI music something – but what is it going to be? And will artists get paid?Is TPOM now a Baby Shark fan-podcast? Steve politely requests that Stu stops singing a mooted Peppa Pig/Baby Shark collaboration.In Australia, people are listening to less music by Australian artists (and it’s the same in the UK too) … so what are they listening to instead? And what can be done to increase fans’ local listening?MTV is shutting down its last music channels – so are we witnessing the death of the music video?What about Ireland’s idea of a basic minimum income for musicians?And in the special post-show lock-in section just for our Patreon Superfans, Steve and Stuart prop themselves at the bar to chat about:Festival Goose Poo Vacuuming!What did Steve chat about with Damon Albarn in the 100 Club last week (and what drink did he order?)Steve has some exclusive hints about the forthcoming John Niven-penned Britpop musical!More on the UK’s Mercury Music prize - and the growing gap between the pop-single megastars at the top and the more niche album-oriented artists at the bottom.What are the benefits of Neil Young being grumpy (or bold and individualist, depending on your perspective)?As ever, we welcome your feedback, emails and – in particular – any questions you might have about how the music biz works!Email us: ⁠⁠thepriceofmusicpodcast@gmail.com⁠⁠See you next week!Steve and Stuart======Support The Price of Music on Patreon:⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/ThePriceofMusic⁠⁠Follow Steve on X - @steve_lamacqFollow Stuart on X - @stuartdredgeFollow The Price of Music on X - @PriceofMusicpodFor sponsorship opportunities, please email - ⁠⁠joe@musically.com

A special episode for you this week - where TPOM wonders: just how hard is it to run a festival in 2025, anyway? Spoiler: it's tricky, but rewarding! To find out more, we spoke to John Rostron, who started in the festival world when he co-founded the award-winning multi-venue festival Sŵn in Cardiff in 2007.He's now CEO of the Association of Independent Festivals which represents over 150 independent UK Music Festivals – making it the single largest collective of festival audiences in the UK, with 1.3 million tickets sold.So, we wanted to know what challenges festivals are facing today, and he shines light on what goes into putting a festival on, including sharing some astonishing facts and figures around the economics of it all. It's a fascinating interview!As ever, we welcome your feedback, emails and – in particular – any questions you might have about how the music biz works!Email us: ⁠⁠thepriceofmusicpodcast@gmail.com⁠⁠See you next week!Steve and Stuart======Support The Price of Music on Patreon:⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/ThePriceofMusic⁠⁠Follow Steve on X - @steve_lamacqFollow Stuart on X - @stuartdredgeFollow The Price of Music on X - @PriceofMusicpodFor sponsorship opportunities, please email - ⁠⁠joe@musically.com