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Feb 23, 2024 • 57min

044 S02 Ep 09 – Lightfighter Leaders’ Preparation for Large-Scale Combat Operations w/COL Shaw, 3rd IBCT, 25th Inf Div (Light)

The Joint Readiness Training Center is pleased to present the forty-fourth episode to air on ‘The Crucible - The JRTC Experience.’ Hosted by the Commander of Ops Group (COG), COL Matthew Hardman. Today’s guest is the Brigade Commander for 3rd Infantry Brigade Combat Team, 25th Infantry, COL Robert Shaw.   The 3rd Infantry Brigade Combat Team of the 25th Infantry Division (Light), which was activated on 1 October 1941 in Hawaii mere days before the attack on Pearl Harbor, conducts military operations primarily in the Asia-Pacific region and has been in every conflict the U.S. has been involved in since its activation. On order, 3rd Infantry Brigade Combat Team, 25th Infantry Division deploys, fights, and wins in Unified Land Operations any place in the U.S. Indo-Pacific Command, and conducts continuous and persistent engagement with regional partners to shape the environment and prevent conflict across the Pacific area of responsibility. They have the Hollywood call-sign of “Bronco” and the motto of “None Better.”   In this episode we discuss how leaders should prepare for large scale combat operations from the light infantry perspective. Specifically, we look at commanders and their staffs build training plans, standard operating procedures, and conduct countless rehearsals, staff exercises, and various field problems in preparation for going to war or arriving at one of the US Army’s combat training centers, like the Joint Readiness Training Center. After each iteration, organizations at echelon should capture their success and their pathways to success to remedy identified vulnerabilities.   An interesting point that is discussed is that leaders need to not only have tenacity but initiative to never quit until the mission is accomplished. This requires leaders to strive to succeed and do the hard tasks in life, which inevitably means that some will not succeed initially but will have to persevere until they do. As leaders we must not only mentor our subordinates but identify talent and then nurture it.   Part of S02 “If I Would Have Only Known” series.   For additional information and insights from this episode, please check-out our Instagram page @the_jrtc_crucible_podcast   Be sure to follow us on social media to keep up with the latest warfighting TTPs learned through the crucible that is the Joint Readiness Training Center.   Follow us by going to: https://linktr.ee/jrtc and then selecting your preferred podcast format.   Again, we’d like to thank our guests for participating. Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and review us wherever you listen or watch your podcasts — and be sure to stay tuned for more in the near future.   “The Crucible – The JRTC Experience” is a product of the Joint Readiness Training Center.
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Feb 14, 2024 • 30min

043 S12 Ep 02 – Security Force Assistance Brigades Integrating US & Multi-National Partners in

The Joint Readiness Training Center is pleased to present the fortieth episode to air on ‘The Crucible - The JRTC Experience.’ Hosted by the Commander of Ops Group (COG), COL Matthew Hardman. Today’s guests are the Commander and Command Sergeant Major for 2nd Security Force Assistance Brigade, COL Jason Clarke and CSM Paul Fedorisin. Security force assistance brigades (SFABs) are specialized US Army units with the core mission to conduct advise, support, liaise and assess operations with allied and partner nations. These combat advisors are highly trained and among the top tactical leaders in the Army. Their work strengthens our allies and partners capacities and capabilities while supporting America's security objectives and the combatant commanders' warfighting needs.   The 2nd Security Force Assistance Brigade is regionally aligned with the African continent partnered with U.S. Africa Command. The SFAB is a strategic game changer for the United States in Africa, providing hand-selected advisors capable of establishing an enduring presence in key countries and operating in any environment—enabling them to develop enduring relationships from the tactical to the strategic level. Simply put, the SFAB provides the United States with a capability no adversary can match. They have the Hollywood call-sign of “Saber” and the motto of “Everyone Fights” while they have the unofficial motto of “Ready for Crisis and Conflict.”   In this episode they discuss the role of security force assistance brigades during large scale combat operations across multiple domains. We discuss the points of friction when transitioning from competition to crisis to conflict with our unified action partners.Specifically, we talk about integrating US forces and our multi-national partners into a synchronized effort against the enemy within large scale combat operations. It’s interesting to note that most SFABs consist of only 40% of the personnel having a maneuver background while the rest of the formation is all low-density, which makes the SFABs very diverse in their capabilities.   Part of S12 “The JIIMs of JRTC: Working with Our Unified Action Partners” series. For additional information and insights from this episode, please check-out our Instagram page @the_jrtc_crucible_podcast   Be sure to follow us on social media to keep up with the latest warfighting TTPs learned through the crucible that is the Joint Readiness Training Center.   Follow us by going to: https://linktr.ee/jrtc and then selecting your preferred podcast format.   Again, we’d like to thank our guests for participating. Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and review us wherever you listen or watch your podcasts — and be sure to stay tuned for more in the near future.   “The Crucible – The JRTC Experience” is a product of the Joint Readiness Training Center.  
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Feb 8, 2024 • 1h 1min

042 S04 Ep 03 Ensuring Success for the Cavalry Squadron in Large Scale Combat Operations w/LTC Nugent and 1LT Hutchinson of 10th Mountain Division

The Joint Readiness Training Center is pleased to present the forty-second episode to air on ‘The Crucible - The JRTC Experience.’ Hosted by CPT Nicolaus Rohrbough is the battalion assistant S-3 operations observer-coach-trainer for TF-4 (CAV Squadron) on behalf of the Commander of Operations Group. Today’s guest is the Commander of 3-89th Cavalry Squadron, 3rd Infantry Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain Division, LTC Ryan Nugent as well as one of his troop’s executive officers, 1LT Aiden Hutchinson   The 3rd Squadron, 89th Cavalry Regiment draws its lineage from a World War II tank destroyer battalion. In an interesting bit of trivia, the IBCT was for over a decade known as the 4th IBCT of 10th Mountain, but when the Army redesigned division for the “Army of 2020” concept, they became 3rd IBCT of 10th Mountain. (The “Spartan” Brigade was inactivated in August 2014.) They have the Hollywood call-sign of “Slugger” or “Patriot Recon” and the motto of “Ready Now,” while the IBCT has the call-sign “Patriots” and the motto of “Forged for War.”   In this episode we discuss the role of the cavalry squadron in large scale combat operations, supporting both the division as the primary unit of action as well as the BCT’s close fight. The CAV squadron was very aggressive with their employment of small unmanned aircraft systems to further extend their reach while dominating the transparent battlefield. Taking lessons learned from both the Nagorno-Karabakh War and the ongoing Russo-Ukraine Conflict, the squadron trained their troops to deploy their sUAS in support of all operations, but especially while halted and dismounted to ensure that they make contact with the enemy first via a sensor package of their drones. A best practice for their squadron was the establishment of a UAS master trainer to ensure that at each echelon they had depth of the personnel trained on each applicable UAS as well as helping each troop commander build their training plans. The squadron also worked with their MICO to incorporate signals intelligence teams and electronic warfare teams into all major troop level training events. The also incorporated indirect fires as many collective training events as possible to build proficiency in bringing “steel rain” to the enemy.   Part of S04 “Scouts Out” series.   For additional information and insights from this episode, please check-out our Instagram page @the_jrtc_crucible_podcast   Be sure to follow us on social media to keep up with the latest warfighting TTPs learned through the crucible that is the Joint Readiness Training Center.   Follow us by going to: https://linktr.ee/jrtc and then selecting your preferred podcast format.   Again, we’d like to thank our guests for participating. Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and review us wherever you listen or watch your podcasts — and be sure to stay tuned for more in the near future.   “The Crucible – The JRTC Experience” is a product of the Joint Readiness Training Center.
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Feb 1, 2024 • 1h 16min

041 S01 Ep 13 – Conducting Airborne Joint Forcible Entries within Large-Scale Combat Operations w/COL Saslav, DCO for 82 ABN

The Joint Readiness Training Center is pleased to present the forty-first episode to air on ‘The Crucible - The JRTC Experience.’ Hosted by CPT Benjamin Malcolm of 1-509th IN (OPFOR) on behalf of the Commander of Operations Group. Today’s guest is the Deputy Commanding Officer – Operations for the 82nd Airborne Division, COL Andrew Saslav, All American 07. COL Saslav was the COG from 2021-2022 and the commander of 11th DTG  (OPFOR notional higher headquarters).   The 82nd Airborne Division specializes in joint forcible entry operations via vertical envelopment, both airborne and air assault, into denied areas with a U.S. Department of Defense requirement to respond to crisis contingencies anywhere in the world within 18 hours. They have the Hollywood call-sign of “All American” Division and the motto of “In Air, On Land.”   In this episode we discuss how airborne forces would be utilized at the commencement of large-scale combat operations. Specifically, we look at how Airborne forces allow the US Army to set conditions for follow-on operations to meet national objectives anywhere in the world. The individuals that become paratroopers are some of the most versatile, capable, and lethal lightfighters in the world that pride themselves in seizing the initiative and aggressively bringing the fight to the enemy on the complex, dynamic modern battlefield. GEN McGavin, the longest serving CDR of the 82nd ABN said, “You show me a man willing to jump out of an airplane and I’ll show you a man that will fight [and win] for his country.”   An interesting point that is discussed is that previously the DoD’s took for granted that the US would have air supremacy immediately, but lessons from Ukraine has forced the DOD to reevaluate this concept. The 82nd ABN operates under the premise that they will conduct a JFE into a contested environment to seize a key piece of terrain and establish a lodgment for US forces. This can only be done during a set time window along planned air corridors secured through joint suppression of enemy air defense (SEAD) assets.    Part of S01 “The Leader’s Laboratory” series.   Don’t forget to check-out XVIII Airborne Corps’ social media pages, their handles are ‘82ndAirborneDivision’ on Facebook, ‘82ndABNDiv’ on X, and ‘82ndairbornediv’ on Instagram.   For additional information and insights from this episode, please check-out our Instagram page @the_jrtc_crucible_podcast   Be sure to follow us on social media to keep up with the latest warfighting TTPs learned through the crucible that is the Joint Readiness Training Center.   Follow us by going to: https://linktr.ee/jrtc and then selecting your preferred podcast format.   Again, we’d like to thank our guests for participating. Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and review us wherever you listen or watch your podcasts — and be sure to stay tuned for more in the near future.   “The Crucible – The JRTC Experience” is a product of the Joint Readiness Training Center.
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Jan 18, 2024 • 56min

040 S12 Ep 01 – Security Force Assistance Command in Large Scale Combat Operations w/MG Hill

The Joint Readiness Training Center is pleased to present the fortieth episode to air on ‘The Crucible - The JRTC Experience.’ Hosted by the Commander of Ops Group (COG), COL Matthew Hardman. Today’s guest is the Commanding General for Security Force Assistance Command, MG Donn Hill.   The Security Force Assistance Command (SFAC) is a division-level command element for the United States Army's new security force assistance brigades (SFAB). The SFAC draws its heritage from the Philippine Constabulary Advisory Mission immediately following the Spanish-American War and the Military Assistance Advisor Group throughout the Cold War. The SFAC’s core mission is security force assistance to conduct training, advising, assisting, enabling and accompanying operations with allied and partner nations. The SFAC builds and sustains readiness by manning, training, and validating regionally aligned SFA brigades for employment by combatant commands. They have the Hollywood call-sign of “Advisor” and the motto of “Victorious Together.”   In this episode they discuss the evolution of the U.S. Army’s combat advisor program and its role in the Army’s ability to conduct large scale combat operations across multiple domains. We discuss the employment of SFABs attached to our multinational partners to ensure interdependence, interoperability, and integration with U.S. forces in that region. While they are primarily focused on providing security force assistance to our multinational partners through establishing relationships, providing training, and advising throughout the competition and crisis continuum. During the conflict phase, SFABs primarily act as a liaison between U.S. forces and our multinational partners to synchronize and mass effects across multiple domains.   Part of S12 “The JIIMs of JRTC: Working with Our Unified Action Partners” series.   Don’t forget to check-out SFAC’s social media pages, their handles are ‘ArmySFAC’ on Facebook, ‘armysfabs’ on Twitter / X, and ‘armysfabs’ on Instagram.     For additional information and insights from this episode, please check-out our Instagram page @the_jrtc_crucible_podcast   Be sure to follow us on social media to keep up with the latest warfighting TTPs learned through the crucible that is the Joint Readiness Training Center.   Follow us by going to: https://linktr.ee/jrtc and then selecting your preferred podcast format.   Again, we’d like to thank our guests for participating. Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and review us wherever you listen or watch your podcasts — and be sure to stay tuned for more in the near future.   “The Crucible – The JRTC Experience” is a product of the Joint Readiness Training Center.
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Jan 12, 2024 • 25min

039 S11 Ep 05 – How Noncommissioned Officers Impact the OPFOR w/Geronimo 06, LTC Mason Thornal

The Joint Readiness Training Center is pleased to present the thirty-ninth episode to air on ‘The Crucible - The JRTC Experience.’ Hosted by the Command Sergeant Major of Ops Group (CSMOG), CSM Michael Hall. Today’s guest is the commander of 1st Battalion (Airborne), 509th Infantry Regiment, LTC Mason Thornal, also known as Geronimo 06.   1-509th IN is the opposing forces unit for the Joint Readiness Training Center, the infamous “Geronimo,” the most hated unit in the Army. Geronimo’s primary mission is to help units see their selves clearly in order to rectify any deficiencies through rigorous, realistic, and relevant training with an aggressive opposing force (OPFOR).   In this episode they discuss Geronimo’s primary mission: helping units see their selves clearly in order to rectify any deficiencies through rigorous, realistic, and relevant training with an aggressive OPFOR. Specifically, we look at not only how Geronimo builds warfighters within its own organization but how it helps units build warfighters within their own organizations. We also look at how a unit’s noncommissioned officers enable commanders and directly impact a unit’s overall mission.   Part of S11 “Conversations with the Enemy” series.   For additional information and insights from this episode, please check-out our Instagram page @the_jrtc_crucible_podcast   Be sure to follow us on social media to keep up with the latest warfighting TTPs learned through the crucible that is the Joint Readiness Training Center.   Follow us by going to: https://linktr.ee/jrtc and then selecting your preferred podcast format.   Again, we’d like to thank our guests for participating. Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and review us wherever you listen or watch your podcasts — and be sure to stay tuned for more in the near future.   “The Crucible – The JRTC Experience” is a product of the Joint Readiness Training Center.
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Dec 7, 2023 • 51min

038 S06 Ep 01 – Brigade Engineer Battalions and Enablers in Large Scale Combat Operations w/MAJ Jonathan Tucker of 317 BEB, 3/10 MTN

The Joint Readiness Training Center is pleased to present the thirty-seventh episode to air on ‘The Crucible - The JRTC Experience.’ Hosted by MAJ Christopher Gensler from Task Force 5 (BEB) on behalf of the Commander of Ops Group (COG), COL Matthew Hardman. Today’s guest is MAJ Jonathan Tucker, the Battalion S-3 Operations Officer for 317thBrigade Engineer Battalion, 3rd IBCT, 10th Mountain Division.   They have the Hollywood call-sign of “Buffaloes” and the motto of “By Industry and Honor,” while the IBCT has the call-sign “Patriots” and the motto of “Forged for War.”   Part of S06 “Sappers Up…Into the Breach” series.   For additional information and insights from this episode, please check-out our Instagram page @the_jrtc_crucible_podcast   Be sure to follow us on social media to keep up with the latest warfighting TTPs learned through the crucible that is the Joint Readiness Training Center.   Follow us by going to: https://linktr.ee/jrtc and then selecting your preferred podcast format.   Again, we’d like to thank our guests for participating. Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and review us wherever you listen or watch your podcasts — and be sure to stay tuned for more in the near future.   “The Crucible – The JRTC Experience” is a product of the Joint Readiness Training Center.
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Nov 30, 2023 • 51min

037 S01 Ep 12 – LSCO Lessons Learned for PLTs, COs, and BNs w/Company Grade Officer OCT Panel

The Joint Readiness Training Center is pleased to present the thirty-seventh episode to air on ‘The Crucible - The JRTC Experience.’ Hosted by the Commander of Ops Group (COG), COL Matthew Hardman. Today’s guests are all seasoned Observer-Coach-Trainers from across Operations Group, CPT Richard Snyder, CPT Benjamin Malcolm, and CPT Nicolaus Rohrbough. These OCTs have also previously participated in this year’s Large Scale Combat Operations Symposium.   Our guest observer-coach-trainers with over 75 decisive action training environment rotations between them. CPT Richard Snyder (P50) if the Fire Support Officer for Live Fire Division with eighteen rotations. CPT Nicolaus Rohrbough (R03A) is the BN Assistant S-3 Operations OCT for TF-4 (CAV Squadron) with a combination of forty-three rotations between OCT duties and OPFOR. Last but not least is CPT Benjamin Malcolm is the Company Commander for Pathfinder Co, 1-509th IN (Airborne) (Opposing Force) with sixteen rotations.   In this episode we discuss the lessons learned from company grade officer perspective in preparation for conducting large scale combat operations across multiple domains. The panel discusses large scale combat operations executed at the platoon, company, and battalion echelons, offering perspectives on a variety of topics including combined arms maneuver, transparent battlefield, fires, and contested logistics as well as emerging technologies employment.   Key lessons learned for company grade leaders at all echelons when conducting combined arms maneuver during large scale combat operations are ensuring that we are forcing the enemy into a close fight at the time and location of our choosing at a cost that is acceptable and sustainable. Violence of action on any objective should start with indirect fires, this is especially true for fires that organic to infantry battalions, their mortars. Company and battalion leaders need to look at their fires plans to efficiently and effectively layout their echelonment of fires in time and space as your element maneuvers to the objective. The reality of LSCO is that we must be very judicious in how we employ our artillery assets as they’re the keys to success as well as belonging to the division commander. At the squad and section echelons, our leaders ensure that our troops are dispersed, our fighting positions are dug and camouflaged, and that our key weapons systems are effectively emplaced. Tiny wins at the company aggregate to larger victories, which in the end helps ensure that the brigade succeeds.   The two most common myths that companies, batteries, and troops show-up to JRTC with are: 1) Geronimo openly and unapologetically cheats and 2) the training provided during a DATE rotation is focused on small-unit tactics. While we have attempted through this show to dissipate the Geronimo myth, it probably will never go away. As far as the training provided here myth, while partaking in the crucible that is a JRTC rotation, units will have numerous opportunities to conduct small-unit tactics. However, the primary training audience are the brigade and battalion commanders and staffs as there are very view training opportunities available that will simultaneously train an entire brigade combat team’s worth of leaders and staff under duress and in austere conditions against a free-thinking OPFOR.   Part of S01 “The Leader’s Laboratory” series.   Don’t forget to checkout our annual Large Scale Combat Operations Symposium, episode 16 and episode 30 of ‘The Crucible.’ Tune into the previous episode where we sat down with the Field Grade Officers from the LSCO Symposium of ’23.   For additional information and insights from this episode, please check-out our Instagram page @the_jrtc_crucible_podcast   Be sure to follow us on social media to keep up with the latest warfighting TTPs learned through the crucible that is the Joint Readiness Training Center.   Follow us by going to: https://linktr.ee/jrtc and then selecting your preferred podcast format.   Again, we’d like to thank our guests for participating. Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and review us wherever you listen or watch your podcasts — and be sure to stay tuned for more in the near future.   “The Crucible – The JRTC Experience” is a product of the Joint Readiness Training Center.  
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Nov 23, 2023 • 57min

036 S01 Ep 11 – LSCO Lessons Learned for BNs, BCTs, and DIVs w/Field Grade Officer OCT Panel

The Joint Readiness Training Center is pleased to present the thirty-sixth episode to air on ‘The Crucible - The JRTC Experience.’ Hosted by the Commander of Ops Group (COG), COL Matthew Hardman. Today’s guests are all seasoned Observer-Coach-Trainers from across Operations Group, MAJ(P) Drew Zabriskie, MAJ Westly “Wes” LaFitte, and MAJ James Lee.   Our guest observer-coach-trainers with nearly fifty decisive action training environment rotations between them. MAJ(P) Drew Zabriskie (L05) is the BSB Executive Officer OCT for TF Sustainment (BSB / CSSB / DSSB) with ten rotations. MAJ Westly “Wes” LaFitte is the BN Executive Officer OCT for the Fires Support TF (Field Artillery BN). MAJ James Lee is the BDE S-3 Operations Officer OCT for the BDE Command & Control (BCT HQ).   (MAJ(P) Zabriskie would become LTC Zabriskie a few short weeks post filming and MAJ Lee would become the BDE Executive Officer for BC2 as well.)   In this episode we discuss the lessons learned from field grade officer perspective in preparation for conducting large scale combat operations across multiple domains. The panel discusses large scale combat operations executed at the battalion, brigade, and division echelons, offering perspectives on a variety of topics including combined arms maneuver, transparent battlefield, fires, and contested logistics as well as emerging technologies employment.   Key lessons learned for field grade leaders at all echelons are understanding the amount of control and influence leaders must exert to be effective, grasping what you can’t control and not wasting resources in pursuit of it, understanding your area of operations and your sphere of influence within it, and lastly understanding the systems which drive all of these is critical. The goal for leaders at all echelons must be to ensure that you’re not creating problems than you’re solving for your subordinates as well as your higher headquarters. Embracing the “teamwork makes the dream work” philosophy and striving to work together as a team across the brigade combat team.   The number one question that commanders and staff ask across the force is how can we get better at the military decision making processes (MDMP)? There’s no shortcut, it’s simply sets and repetitions that make staffs better at MDMP. The largest myths that most field grade officers have when coming to JRTC is that as the “Iron Major” for their echelon that they can’t or won’t fail at any time. The combat training centers have been described as the “Ranger school for command teams and staffs.” With that in mind, every organization that comes to the CTCs is destined to fail by design. It is only through failure that growth can occur.   Part of S01 “The Leader’s Laboratory” series. Don’t forget to checkout our annual Large Scale Combat Operations Symposium, episode 16 and episode 30 of ‘The Crucible.’ Be sure to stay to for a follow-up episode with the company team OCTs from LSCO Symposium of ’23.   For additional information and insights from this episode, please check-out our Instagram page @the_jrtc_crucible_podcast   Be sure to follow us on social media to keep up with the latest warfighting TTPs learned through the crucible that is the Joint Readiness Training Center.   Follow us by going to: https://linktr.ee/jrtc and then selecting your preferred podcast format.   Again, we’d like to thank our guests for participating. Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and review us wherever you listen or watch your podcasts — and be sure to stay tuned for more in the near future.   “The Crucible – The JRTC Experience” is a product of the Joint Readiness Training Center.
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Nov 16, 2023 • 30min

035 S04 Ep 02 – The Role of the Noncommissioned Officer within the Cavalry Squadron w/CSM Baxter of 10th Mountain Division

The Joint Readiness Training Center is pleased to present the thirty-fifth episode to air on ‘The Crucible - The JRTC Experience.’ Hosted by the Command Sergeant Major of Ops Group (COG), CSM Michael Hall. Today’s guest is the Command Sergeant Major of 3-89th Cavalry Squadron, 3rd Infantry Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain Division, CSM Andrew Baxter. The 3rd Squadron, 89th Cavalry Regiment also draws its heritage from the 899th Tank Destroyer Battalion of infamy during the North African Campaign of World War II. In an interesting bit of trivia, the IBCT was for over a decade known as the 4th IBCT of 10th Mountain, but when the Army redesigned division for the “Army of 2020” concept, they became 3rd IBCT of 10th Mountain. (The “Spartan” Brigade was inactivated in August 2014.) They have the Hollywood call-sign of “Slugger” and the motto of “Ready Now,” while the IBCT has the call-sign “Patriots” and the motto of “Forged for War.” In this episode we discuss the roll of the noncommissioned officer within a cavalry squadron as well as the Army as a whole. The NCOs are the commanders’ “linebackers” with the goal of maintaining good order and discipline of the formation. As leaders, we have to strive to shift our formations from the garrison mindset to a “combat” mindset focused on lethality and overall readiness. We have to re-hone the edge of the NCO corps to be much more focused on direct leadership instead of the more passive, non-confrontational approach while still being professional, especially for our junior NCOs. The value of the specialist within our formations cannot be overemphasized as they fill the gap between Soldier and the NCO corps having proven their merit by mastering their skill level one tasks.   Part of S04 “Scouts Out” series.   For additional information and insights from this episode, please check-out our Instagram page @the_jrtc_crucible_podcast   Be sure to follow us on social media to keep up with the latest warfighting TTPs learned through the crucible that is the Joint Readiness Training Center.   Follow us by going to: https://linktr.ee/jrtc and then selecting your preferred podcast format.   Again, we’d like to thank our guests for participating. Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and review us wherever you listen or watch your podcasts — and be sure to stay tuned for more in the near future.   “The Crucible – The JRTC Experience” is a product of the Joint Readiness Training Center.

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