
The Crucible - The JRTC Experience Podcast
The Joint Readiness Training Center is the premier crucible training experience. We prepare units to fight and win in the most complex environments against world-class opposing forces. We are America’s leadership laboratory.
This podcast isn’t an academic review of historical vignettes or political-science analysis of current events. This is a podcast about warfighting and the skillsets necessary for America’s Army to fight and win on the modern battlefield.
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Oct 23, 2024 • 39min
076 S02 Ep 16 – Red Arrow Resilience and Lessons from the Les Terribles in Action at the JRTC w/MSG William Kocken
The Joint Readiness Training Center is pleased to present the seventy-sixth episode to air on ‘The Crucible - The JRTC Experience.’ Hosted by the Command Sergeant Major of Ops Group (CMOG), CSM Michael Hall. Today’s guest is MSG William Kocken, which is the Operations Sergeant Major for 2nd Battalion, 127th Infantry Regiment.
The 2nd Battalion, 127th Infantry Regiment of the Red Arrow Brigade, 32nd Infantry Brigade Combat Team (IBCT) of the Wisconsin Army National Guard, has a distinguished history of service. Known for its long-standing tradition of excellence in both state and national missions, the battalion’s motto, Les Terribles—meaning “The Terrible Ones”—reflects its fierce combat reputation earned during World War I. The Red Arrow Brigade, of which the 2-127th is a part, derives its name from its ability to pierce enemy lines during both world wars, symbolizing the unit’s strength and perseverance. They have the Hollywood call-sign of “Black Hats” (the BCT’s call-sign is “Red Arrow”), the nickname of “Wisconsin Volunteers,” and the brigade’s motto of “Forward.”
In this episode we discuss the lessons learned at the battalion echelon for conducting large scale combat operations across multiple domains, particularly in logistics, communications, and standards of discipline. One of the key takeaways was the challenge of maintaining efficient communication across dispersed units, especially during large-scale combat operations (LSCO). Unlike Active Duty forces, the Army National Guard (ARNG) faces unique difficulties in ensuring smooth, real-time communication, which became a critical area for improvement. Additionally, the exercise exposed gaps in logistical sustainment, as ARNG units struggled with coordinating supplies, equipment, and personnel over extended operations. This highlighted the need for more robust logistical planning and the importance of developing a deeper understanding of how to sustain operations in high-intensity environments.
Best practices that emerged from the rotation included a renewed emphasis on “brilliance in the basics” and reinforcing standards and discipline. The importance of mastering fundamental soldiering skills, such as maintaining noise and light discipline, digging proper fighting positions, and ensuring basic field craft, became apparent. Leaders realized that gaps in these areas could have serious consequences in LSCO, where the margin for error is small. The exercise also demonstrated that success depends on rigorous preparation and adhering to the most basic tasks, which in turn allows units to perform better in more complex and dynamic scenarios. Commanders stressed the importance of repetitive training in these foundational areas to ensure that soldiers can respond effectively in high-pressure situations and adapt to modern battlefield demands.
Part of S02 “If I Would Have Only Known” series.
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Oct 17, 2024 • 49min
075 S02 Ep 15 - Preparing for the Next Fight & the Army's Modernization Effort of Transformation in Contact w/COL Stultz of 2MBCT/101 ABN
The Joint Readiness Training Center is pleased to present the seventy-fifth episode to air on ‘The Crucible - The JRTC Experience.’ Hosted by the Task Force Senior for the BDE Command & Control (BCT HQ), LTC Timothy Price on behalf of the Commander of Ops Group (COG). Today’s guest is the Brigade Commander for 2nd Mobile Brigade Combat Team, 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault), COL James Stultz.
The 2nd Mobile Brigade Combat Team of the 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault), which was activated on 1 July 1941 at Ft. Benning (now Ft. Moore), GA. The MBCT draws its infantry battalions primarily from the 502nd Parachute Infantry Regiment. 2nd MBCT is the Army’s first mobile BCT construct. As their designation implies, they’re focused on increasing a brigade’s overall mobility and with it the agility and flexibility that it provides. They have the Hollywood call-sign of “Strike,” but commonly called “Five oh Duece,” and the motto of “Strike.” (The rest of the motto is “I fight where I am told, and win where I fight.”) They are easily identified by the black heart patches on their helmets dating back to preparation for the invasion of France in World War II and have been known by the enemy as the “Black Hearts Brigade.”
In this episode, we discuss several emerging key lessons, particularly regarding the importance of Transition in Contact (TiC) and the evolving nature of command and control (C2Fix). TiC was highlighted as a critical skill, requiring seamless coordination between the brigade and its multifunctional reconnaissance companies (MFRC) and multi-purpose companies (MPCs), which replaced the traditional anti-tank and heavy weapons companies. These units provided vital intelligence and protection in the deep area, using scout snipers, electronic warfare sections, and anti-air capabilities. However, there were challenges in maintaining a balance between reconnaissance and target acquisition, illustrating the need for constant refinement in how these specialized companies are employed. The introduction of the MFRC and other multifunctional units demonstrated the Army’s shift towards more flexible, mobile brigades capable of long-range operations, especially through the use of large-scale air assaults (L2A2).
In addition to TiC, the exercise reinforced the importance of mastering logistics and communications across multiple domains to support Army modernization efforts. Logistics played a critical role in enabling mobility, especially as light infantry units integrated vehicles like the infantry squad vehicle (ISV), providing new tactical opportunities but requiring extensive training. Effective communications were essential for synchronizing complex operations, particularly in the context of C2Fix, where brigades aimed to reduce their physical footprint and rely more on higher echelons for intelligence processing. Mastery of “brilliance in the basics,” such as security, camouflage, and decentralized command structures, proved essential in navigating these transitions and ensuring brigade effectiveness in large-scale combat operations (LSCO). These insights provide a roadmap for future improvements in integrating modern capabilities while maintaining a focus on foundational warfighting skills.
Part of S02 “If I Would Have Only Known” series.
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Oct 10, 2024 • 32min
074 S01 Ep 27 - Be Brilliant at the Basics: Advice for Army National Guard Units w/BG Riley & CSM Carver of the Oregon ARNG
The Joint Readiness Training Center is pleased to present the seventy-fourth episode to air on ‘The Crucible - The JRTC Experience.’ Hosted by the Task Force Senior for the Leader Training Program, LTC Drew Zabriskie on behalf of the Commander of Ops Group (COG). Today’s guests are BG Eric Riley & CSM Jeremy Carver of the Oregon Army National Guard.
BG Riley is the Commanding General and CSM Carver is the Senior Enlisted Leader for the Land Component Command of OR ARNG. BG Riley is additionally the Deputy Commanding General–ARNG for the US Army’s Maneuver Center of Excellence.
The Oregon Army National Guard’s lineage starts with the history of the militia, which dates back to the establishment of the first Oregon militia in 1843. However, the present ARNG was not established until after 1903. The modern Guard includes citizen soldiers, and its motto is "When we are needed, we are there." It responds to state and national emergencies, military conflicts and international natural disasters as well as conducts search and rescue operations when required. It consists of 41 armories across 33 communities.
In this episode, we discuss hard-hitting lessons on resilience, communication, and mastering the basics, all crucial for thriving in the high-stakes environment of large-scale combat operations. Our guests noted how enduring the physical and mental hardships of the rotation strengthened the soldiers’ ability to adapt and persevere. They highlighted that even small issues, such as a lack of communication or minor logistical oversights, could quickly compound into larger problems in a high-stress environment, such as combat. The training reinforced that resilience is not just physical endurance but also the ability to maintain operational effectiveness under continuous pressure. Commanders must ensure that soldiers are prepared for the reality of LSCO, where supply shortages and logistical challenges are the norm, rather than the exception, unlike the relative comforts experienced during previous conflicts.
The discussion also underscored the necessity of mastering the basics, or “brilliance in the basics,” particularly in areas like communication, logistics, and warfighting skills. This is especially true in maintaining soldier discipline at echelon and across every phase of the operation. Effective communication across all levels is vital to ensure accurate reporting, coordination, and execution of tasks. In the LSCO environment, missteps in communication can have far-reaching consequences, and units must be proficient in using equipment and ensuring clear lines of communication. Similarly, logistical planning must be meticulous, with attention given to both what is brought to the field and what is left behind. The training also revealed the need for proficiency in foundational warfighting skills, from individual tasks to large-unit maneuvers, ensuring that units can operate effectively in multiple domains, including land, air, and cyber, while facing the challenges of modern, complex battlefields.
Part of S01 “The Leader’s Laboratory” series.
For additional information and insights from this episode, please check-out our Instagram page @the_jrtc_crucible_podcast
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Oct 3, 2024 • 58min
073 S01 Ep 26 - Long Range Airborne Envelopment During Large Scale Combat Operations w/MG Work, CDR of the 82nd ABN
The Joint Readiness Training Center is pleased to present the seventy-third episode to air on ‘The Crucible - The JRTC Experience.’ Hosted by the Commander of Ops Group (COG), COL Ricky Taylor. Today’s guest is the Commanding General for the 82nd Airborne Division, MG James “Pat” Work.
MG Pat Work has served for 29 years in the U.S. Army, beginning his career as a cadet at the U.S. Military Academy. He has held key assignments in the 101st Airborne and 3rd Ranger Battalion, where he developed his leadership and operational skills under the mentorship of influential military leaders. Throughout his career, he has focused on preparing units for the complexities of large-scale combat operations, emphasizing the importance of decision-making, adaptability, and logistics. Known for his commitment to leader development and operational readiness, MG Work’s service is marked by his ability to synthesize lessons learned from both his mentors and his own experiences to guide, motivate, and develop his soldiers.
The 82nd Airborne Division, established in 1917 during World War I, is one of the most storied units in the U.S. Army, originally composed of soldiers from all 48 states, earning it the nickname “All American.” It was reactivated during World War II as the first airborne division, pioneering the use of paratroopers in large-scale operations. The division’s motto is often thought to be, “All The Way” (that’s XVIII ABN’s motto), but in truth it is, ““In Air, On Land,” which reflects its commitment to mission accomplishment and enduring resilience in combat.
In this episode we emphasize the complexity and intensity of warfighting, particularly in large-scale combat operations and airborne operations in general. He describes it as fundamentally about “large-scale violence,” requiring commanders to manage immense challenges of speed, scale, and logistics. Effective warfighting, according to MG Work, requires meticulous planning around threats, terrain, and logistical realities. We stress the need for divisions to constantly re-establish their fires architecture while ensuring mobility and sustainment across vast areas of operation. Units must be prepared for continuous movement of supplies, personnel, and damaged assets, all while operating in a joint and coalition environment. For MG Work, warfighting is not only about combat but also understanding the complexity of modern conflicts, from strategic decisions made by commanders to the execution by brigade combat teams on the ground.
In terms of leadership and planning, MG Work emphasizes the importance of preparation before combat begins. Leaders must ensure their troops are mentally and physically ready for the exhaustion and grind of sustained campaigns. He also highlights the value of decision-making processes, where leaders operate with 40-70% certainty and make choices based on limited information. Trust, competence, and a focus on developing subordinates are central to his leadership philosophy. He believes in creating more leaders and ensuring that brigade commanders are focused on thinking deeply and planning ahead, while delegating current operations to trusted subordinates. Leadership, in his view, is a balance between empowering subordinates and maintaining a strategic vision across time and space.
Part of S01 “The Leader’s Laboratory” series.
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Sep 26, 2024 • 44min
072 S09 Ep 01 – Establishing & Maintaining Command & Control on the Battlefields of Tomorrow w/MG Ellis, the Director of Network Cross-Functional Team
The Joint Readiness Training Center is pleased to present the seventy-second episode to air on ‘The Crucible - The JRTC Experience.’ Hosted by the Task Force Senior for the BDE Command & Control (BCT HQ), LTC Timothy Price on behalf of the Commander of Ops Group (COG). Today’s guests are MG Patrick Ellis and Mr. Mark Kitz. MG Ellis is the Director of the Army’s Network Cross-Functional Team. Mr. Kitz is the Program Executive Officer for Command, Control, & Communications-Tactical.
The Network Cross-Functional Team is an outgrowth of Army Futures Command, established in 2018 to tackle the Army’s modernization requirements. It is one of eight original teams convened and works closely with the Program Executive Office for Command, Control and Communications-Tactical (PEO-C3T). The Network Cross-Functional Team is a highly dynamic and responsive unit, integrating cross-domain network capabilities to relay mission-critical data and operational updates with the speed and precision required for Joint All-Domain Command and Control. Its ability to seamlessly connect multiple domains ensures that vital information reaches decision-makers in real-time, making it indispensable to JADC2.
In this episode we discuss some of the modernization efforts being made across the force for our command and control networks. Specifically we look at some of the ways that the new capabilities are being employed and some of the ways that we can improve it. Our Combat Training Centers allow units to not only employ new equipment and theories but to test them under duress against a free-thinking opposing force. NETCFT has taken Chief of Staff GEN Randy George’s words to heart, “Soldiers need to shoot, move and communicate. Technology should facilitate those fundamentals, not encumber them.” This is especially true with the modernization efforts being made for our command posts to be survivable on the modern battlefield.
Part of S09 “Got Comms?” series.
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Sep 21, 2024 • 43min
071 S02 Ep 14 – Realities of Large Scale Combat Operations at the Battalion Echelon w/MAJ Edward Worman & SGT Stephanie Smith of the 2-130 IN “Blackhawks”
The Joint Readiness Training Center is pleased to present the seventy-first episode to air on ‘The Crucible - The JRTC Experience.’ Hosted by the former Commander of Ops Group (COG), COL Matthew Hardman. This will be his last episode to host, but we may seem him as a guest in the future. Today’s guests are two key members from 2nd Battalion, 130 Infantry Regiment, MAJ Edward Worman and SGT Ashley Smith. MAJ Worman is the Battalion Commander for 2-130th IN and SGT Smith is the S-2 Intelligence Section Non-Commisioned Officer-in-Charge.
The 2nd Battalion of 130th Infantry Regiment is an infantry regiment in the Illinois Army National Guard. 2-130 IN has an extensive and illustrious history dating back to the War of 1812. Since its establishment, the battalion has served in every conflict that the US Army has participated in, from the Mexican War to the Civil War to Indian Wars of the American Frontier to battlefields of World War I to the island hoping campaign in the Pacific Theater of World War II to the various conflicts of the Cold War and finally in support of the Global War on Terror. They are one of the infantry battalions for the 33rd Infantry Brigade Combat Team, formerly the 66th Infantry Brigade Combat Team, but for their rotation at the JRTC they were attached to the 32nd IBCT of the Wisconsin ARNG. They have the Hollywood call-sign of “Blackhawks,” the nickname of “Fourth Illinois,” and the motto of “Always Ready.”
In this episode we discuss the lessons learned at the battalion echelon for conducting large scale combat operations across multiple domains. Specifically, we focus on the information requirements for the battalion commander and his subordinate company commanders as well as best practices of an efficient battalion staff. At the battalion echelon, the commander needs timely and accurate reporting; tactical patience; and understand where leaders need to be on the battlefield. Battlefield circulation is critical during transitions between various phases of the operation. Smart-books and the TRADOC G-2 World Equipment Guide (WEG) are your friend. Staff sections should update and maintain their overlays to provide the commander with updated graphics to make decisions, such as modified combined obstacle overlay and threat overlays plus event matrix. The most successful battalions at the JRTC are those that don’t overly rely on digital products and instead use analog products. Remember, to be detected is to be targeted is to be killed.
The number one question that commanders and staff ask across the force is how can we get better at the military decision making processes (MDMP)? There’s no shortcut, it’s simply sets and repetitions that make staffs better at MDMP. While both our guests did exceptionally well during their crucible rotation, it is nearly certain that some may feel that it is unrealistic that such junior leaders would fill those roles. We at the JRTC would argue that the opposite is true as it should be expected that large scale combat operations would inflict a high attrition rate upon our forces, demanding junior leaders to fill the void.
Part of S02 “If I Would Have Only Known” series.
For additional information and insights from this episode, please check-out our Instagram page @the_jrtc_crucible_podcast
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Sep 19, 2024 • 1h 13min
070 S02 Ep 13 – Now and Then: Experiences and Lessons Learned Over Time at the JRTC as an Observer-Coach-Trainer w/CPT Whitney Strong & CPT Joshua Kent
The Joint Readiness Training Center is pleased to present the seventieth episode to air on ‘The Crucible - The JRTC Experience.’ Hosted by the former Commander of Ops Group (COG), COL Matthew Hardman. Today’s guests are two seasoned Observer-Coach-Trainers, CPT Whitney Strong and CPT Joshua Kent. This episode is special because it is a compilation of their insights when they first arrived at the Joint Readiness Training Center as well as now towards the end of their assignment. CPT Whitney Strong is an engineer platoon and company OCT for TF-5 (BDE Engineer BN). CPT Joshua Kent is the lead OCT an administrative / logistics ops center OCT for TF Sustainment (BSB / CSSB / DSSB).
In this episode we discuss the lessons learned from company grade officer perspective in preparation for conducting large scale combat operations across multiple domains. Specifically, we focus at large scale combat operations executed at the platoon, company, and battalion echelons, offering perspectives on a variety of topics including combined arms maneuver, transparent battlefield, fires, and contested logistics as well as emerging technologies employment.
We routinely get asked: What’s the daily life of an OCT? Why should you consider becoming a member of the JRTC? And lastly, who are we looking for? Well, we hope that between this episode and the attached information will go a long way to answer those questions. Please checkout https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxeuSwJpaS87pCLAAK2gAn9DQ4HASwF6iO for more info.
Why Join the Joint Readiness Training Center, Operations Group Team?
Become an expert in Large Scale Combat Operations and Combined Arms Maneuver across multiple domains.
Directly influence the combat readiness of 8-10x Brigade Combat Teams each year.
Influence Army Doctrine and emerging TTPs through integration with Centers of Excellence, TRADOC, and CAC.
Opportunities to observe units and leaders one level up; prepare for your next operational assignment.
Opportunities to attend military schools and earn a Master’s degree through Northwestern State University.
Predictable schedule locked one year out, with two dedicated block leave periods each year, and monthly four-day weekend opportunities.
Who Are We Hiring?
OCTs within the Task Forces:
Post KD MAJs (IN, FA, EN, LG, AV) to serve as BN S3 and XO OCTs
Post KD CPTs/1SGs (IN, FA, EN, LG, AV) to serve as CO OCTs
Post KD Signal, Intel Officers and NCOs to serve as BN Staff OCTs
Individuals with BDE experience to serve as BDE OCTs for all MOSs on the BDE Staff.
TF Zulu or Plans/Exercise Maneuver Control:
Post KD Officers and NCOs of all MOSs on a DIV Staff to serve as HICON and EXCON for the rotation.
Part of S02 “If I Would Have Only Known” series.
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Sep 12, 2024 • 1h 27min
069 S01 Ep 25 – Professional Reading for the Military Practitioner w/COL(R) Mike Kershaw of JRTC’s Leader Training Program
The Joint Readiness Training Center is pleased to present the sixty-ninth episode to air on ‘The Crucible - The JRTC Experience.’ Hosted by the former Commander of Ops Group (COG), COL Matthew Hardman. Today’s guest is the deputy senior mentor at the Leader Training Program at the JRTC, COL(R) Mike Kershaw.
He spent 34 years on active duty as an infantry officer and has been with the Leader Training Program for nearly nine years. The Leaders Training Program at the JRTC is a ten-day planning conference providing commanders and staff an opportunity to hone their military decision-making process skills and systems. The program is facilitated by retired, senior military planning coaches giving units best practices and lessons learned from previous iterations. Be sure to checkout Mike’s other episode, Ep. 45 “Trends & Best Practices at Echelon within the Infantry Battalion.”
In this episode, we dive into the necessity of the modern combat leader to be both well-read and well-written. Reading a wide variety of subjects, especially historical vignettes, is crucial for military practitioners and combat leaders. These narratives offer invaluable insights into the successes and failures of others, providing lessons that can shape decision-making in complex situations. By studying diverse experiences, leaders gain perspective on strategy, tactics, and human behavior in conflict, learning to anticipate challenges and respond more effectively. Writing about these lessons is equally important, as it allows leaders to give back to their profession, sharing knowledge, refining thought processes, and contributing to the collective wisdom that strengthens future generations of military leadership.
Part of S01 “The Leader’s Laboratory” series.
You can reference Mike’s recommended professional reading list here:
https://ugc.production.linktr.ee/64789615-54d4-4a43-a68f-b152f6b51193_JRTC-LTP-Professional-Reading-Book.pdf
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Sep 5, 2024 • 1h 1min
068 S01 Ep 24 – Training for Victory: How Combat Training Centers Build Combat Readiness of the Force & Shape the Future of Warfare w/BG Jason Curl
The Joint Readiness Training Center is pleased to present the sixty-eighth episode to air on ‘The Crucible - The JRTC Experience.’ Hosted by the former Commander of Ops Group (COG), COL Matthew Hardman. Today’s guest is the Commanding General of the Joint Readiness Training Center and former COG, BG Jason Curl.
BG Curl commissioned as an infantry officer from the United States Military Academy in 1995 and has served in a variety of maneuver assignments. As the CG at the Joint Readiness Training Center, he has the Hollywood call-sign of “Warrior 06.”
In this episode, we dive into the pivotal role combat training centers (CTCs) play in preparing brigade combat teams (BCTs) and divisions to fight and win on tomorrow's multi-domain battlefield. The CTC experience is a crucible, pushing units to their limits and refining their warfighting skills through realistic, high-intensity scenarios that mirror the complexity of modern warfare. We explore how these rigorous training environments shape the collective glidepath of readiness, fostering adaptability, cohesion, and mastery across land, air, sea, cyber, and space domains. Join us as we discuss how the lessons learned at CTCs are crucial for future mission success. Additionally, we highlight some of the modernization and innovation efforts that have been incorporated into our rotational design as well as some of the modernization of our rotational training units.
Part of S01 “The Leader’s Laboratory” series.
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Aug 29, 2024 • 58min
067 S07 Ep 04 – Brigade Targeting Process During Large-Scale Combat Operations w/CW3 James Crain of 10th Mountain Division
The Joint Readiness Training Center is pleased to present the sixty-seventh episode to air on ‘The Crucible - The JRTC Experience’ and the third annual Large Scale Combat Operations Symposium. Hosted by CW2 Jerrad Rader, the Brigade Targeting Officer OCT for BDE Command & Control (BCT HQ) on behalf of the Commander of Operations Group. Today’s guest is Brigade Targeting Officer for 1st Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain Division, CW3 James Crain.
The 1st Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain Division is an active Infantry Brigade Combat Team of the United States Army based at Fort Drum in New York. The brigade headquarters carries the lineage of the 10th Mountain Division's original headquarters company, and served as such in World War II, and in peacetime at Fort Riley, Fort Benning, and West Germany in the 1940s and 1950s. 1st BCT has numerous deployments to contingencies around the world in the 1990s and later in support of the Global War on Terrorism. They have the Hollywood call-sign of “Warriors” and the motto of “Find a way or make one.”
In this episode, we talk targeting cycle challenges, insights, and best practices for integrating and synchronizing joint fires from the perspective of two seasoned warrant officers. Fires are normally used in concert with maneuver, which helps shape the battlespace, setting conditions for decisive action. At the brigade echelon, this methodology focuses on the employment of fires within the brigade’s deep-fight with the maneuver battalions focused on the brigade’s close-fight. Another effective employment method is their use to support the brigade’s close-fight, which incorporates the use of the maneuver battalions’ mortars into the fires plan. Effective brigade fires during large-scale combat operations require the integration and synchronization of fire support with maneuver plans, leveraging joint fires, and maintaining clear command and control structures. A robust targeting process and decentralized execution allow for rapid and accurate fire missions. Logistical support ensures sustained operations, while counter-fire capabilities protect against enemy artillery. Continuous training and rehearsals are essential to maintaining proficiency and ensuring that brigade fires provide decisive, responsive firepower that supports the brigade’s overall objectives on the battlefield.
Part of S07 “Joint Fires Discussions” series.
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