
America Dissected
Wellness isn’t just about mindfulness, exercise, or the right skin routine. Science, politics, media, culture, tech — everything around us — interact to shape our health. On America Dissected, Drs. Abdul El-Sayed and Katelyn Jetelina cuts into what really makes us sick — be it racism, corporate greed, or snake oil influencers — and what it'll take to heal it. From for-profit healthcare to ineffective sunscreens, America Dissected cuts deeper into the state of health in America. New episodes every Thursday. Want to know where to start? Here are some fan-favorite episodes to search: Cannabis Capitalism with David Jernigan; Weight Weight Don’t Tell me with Harriett Brown; Black Scientists Matter with Dr. Kizzmekia Corbett.
Latest episodes

May 15, 2025 • 1h 21min
Democrats Confront RFK Jr.
Katelyn and Abdul break down the latest news in public health and policy, including:
RFK’s appearance at the House Appropriations Committee and the Senate Health Committee
The House budget proposal to cut Medicaid
Donald Trump’s Executive Order to bring down drug prices
Trump’s nominee for Surgeon General
Then Abdul interviews former FDA Commissioner Dr. David Kessler about his new book Diet, Drugs and Dopamine.
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May 8, 2025 • 1h 18min
The Problem with “Do Your Own Research”
Abdul and Katelyn break down the latest in public health, including:
RFK’s Jr’s push to test all future vaccines against placebos
Why the phrase “Do Your Own Research” often leads to mis and disinformation
New threats to MRNA vaccine research
A huge NIH investment toward a future universal flu vaccine
Why some leading medical journals received accusatory letters from a Trump surrogate
A new poll that shows Americans agree on the most pressing public health needs, but disagree on the solutions
Then Abdul sits down with Astra Taylor and Lindsey Muniak from The Debt Collective to talk about their work fighting medical debt while building solidarity among debtors.
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May 1, 2025 • 1h 20min
Baby Boom or Bust?
Abdul and Katelyn discuss the latest news in health and policy, including:
Trump’s proposal to increase the birth rate by giving women $5000 baby bonuses
The political divide over measles
Why RFK Jr is being asked to testify at the Senate HELP committee in May
The closure of nine schools in Milwaukee due to lead contamination
Then Abdul and Katelyn talk to Princeton political science professors Dr. Frances Lee and Dr. Stephen Macedo about their new book “In Covid’s Wake.”
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Apr 24, 2025 • 1h 14min
RFK Jr’s Autism Registry
Abdul and Katelyn discuss the latest in health policy this week including:
RFK Jr’s plan to form a national registry of Americans with autism
The shift to make US health policy look more like Europe’s
The latest news on the Texas measles outbreak
A White House budget proposal that calls for cutting $40 billion from HHS next year
Why NIH’s top expert on ultra-processed foods left the agency
Then Abdul interviews Harvard polling expert Dr. Gillian SteelFisher about a new survey on pandemic safety measures -- and most Americans are more open than you think! And a special thanks to deBeaumont Foundation for their contribution to today’s interview.Check out our shop at store.americadissected.com for our new America Dissected merch – including logo shirts, hoodies and mugs. And don’t miss our “Vaccines Matter. Science Works.” t-shirts!This show would not be possible without the generous support of our sponsors. America Dissected invites you to check them out. This episode was brought to you by:de Beaumont Foundation: Find new, research-tested messaging to communicate about public health, plus useful tips for the real-world situations you face, at debeaumont.org.

Apr 20, 2025 • 2min
A message from Abdul

Apr 17, 2025 • 1h 4min
RFK’s September Surprise
Abdul and Katelyn cover this week’s health news, which includes:
RFK’s bizarre promise to reveal the cause of Autism by September
The latest in the Texas measles outbreak
Why DOGE cuts have left HHS data systems vulnerable to cyberhacks
The discovery of lead in Milwaukee’s drinking water, and CDC’s failure to help
The risks of RFK’s Jr’s crusade against fluoride
Then Abdul sits down with Dr. Zachary Rubin to talk about allergy season and the many questions we have about antihistamines, peanuts and pollen!Check out our shop at store.americadissected.com for our new America Dissected merch – including logo shirts, hoodies and mugs. And don’t miss our “Vaccines Matter. Science Works.” t-shirts!This show would not be possible without the generous support of our sponsors. America Dissected invites you to check them out. This episode was brought to you by:de Beaumont Foundation: The foundation advances policy, builds partnerships, and strengthens systems to give everyone the opportunity to achieve their best possible health. To learn more, visit debeaumont.org. Boll & Branch: Get 15% off, plus free shipping on your first set of sheets, at BollandBranch.com/AD.

Apr 10, 2025 • 1h 1min
How Trump’s Tariffs Will Hit Healthcare
Abdul and Katelyn discuss the latest news in health and policy, including:
The third measles death this year - an 8-year-old girl in Texas
RFK Jr’s weak response to the measles outbreak
The impact of tariffs on healthcare and insurance prices
Why Medicare and Medicaid won’t expand access to GLP-1 drugs like Ozempic
A federal ruling that restores funding to research labs for “indirect costs”
Then Abdul sits down with an old friend, Scott Hugo, who has been battling Long Covid for more than a year. Abdul and Scott discuss how his life has dramatically changed by this illness, and the fallout from the Trump Administration’s decision to cut Long Covid research.Check out our shop at store.americadissected.com for our new America Dissected merch – including logo shirts, hoodies and mugs. And don’t miss our “Vaccines Matter. Science Works.” t-shirts!This show would not be possible without the generous support of our sponsors. America Dissected invites you to check them out. This episode was brought to you by:de Beaumont Foundation: The foundation advances policy, builds partnerships, and strengthens systems to give everyone the opportunity to achieve their best possible health. To learn more, visit debeaumont.org. Quince: Go to Quince.com/AD for 365-day returns, plus free shipping on your order.

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Apr 3, 2025 • 59min
A Bull-DOGE-er to HHS
Guests Nat Kendall-Taylor and Julie Sweetland from the Frameworks Institute discuss vital communication strategies around vaccine hesitancy and public health. They emphasize the importance of framing discussions to rebuild trust, focusing on shared values instead of just data. The conversation highlights the challenges faced in public health with workforce reductions and rising anti-vaccination sentiments, while underscoring the role of storytelling in effectively conveying scientific concepts and fostering emotional connections.

Mar 27, 2025 • 50min
Bird Flu, Baby Formula and The Bully Pulpit
Abdul and Katelyn discuss the latest in the world of public health including:
RFK Jr’s problematic new strategy on avian influenza
A new report showing heavy metals in some US baby formulas
Trump’s attack on higher education
Trump’s new pick to lead the CDC
A shadow CDC website, created by the non-profit founded by RFK Jr.
Katelyn and Abdul’s reaction to that episode of The Daily (iykyk)
How the DOGE cuts are hitting the VA.
Then Abdul interviews urologist Dr. Maria Uloko about her groundbreaking work in sexual health, and the deep gender disparities that she’s working to erase. Check out our shop at store.americadissected.com for our new America Dissected merch – including logo shirts, hoodies and mugs. And don’t miss our “Vaccines Matter. Science Works.” t-shirts!This show would not be possible without the generous support of our sponsors. America Dissected invites you to check them out. This episode was brought to you by:de Beaumont Foundation: Find new, research-tested messaging to communicate about public health, plus useful tips for the real-world situations you face, at debeaumont.org.

Mar 20, 2025 • 1h 5min
We Still Don’t Have a CDC Director. Measles Doesn’t Care.
Abdul and Katelyn round up all the latest health news, including:
The growing measles outbreak out of Texas
RFK Jr’s false claim that the measles vaccine causes death
The withdrawal of Dave Weldon’s nomination at CDC, and who could take his place
Dr. Oz’s confirmation hearings, and what could be next for Medicare and Medicaid
The Covid-era healthcare programs that were extended by the government funding bill
West Virginia’s move to ban food additives, including red dye
The latest round of DOGE cuts
A new COVID variant in South Africa
Then Abdul interviews author Charles Duhigg about his new book Supercommunicators, about the ways physicians and public health workers can have more productive conversations with patients.Check out our shop at store.americadissected.com for our new America Dissected merch – including logo shirts, hoodies and mugs. And don’t miss our “Vaccines Matter. Science Works.” t-shirts!This show would not be possible without the generous support of our sponsors. America Dissected invites you to check them out. This episode was brought to you by:de Beaumont Foundation: Find new, research-tested messaging to communicate about public health, plus useful tips for the real-world situations you face, at debeaumont.org.Boll & Branch: Get 15% off, plus free shipping on your first set of sheets at bollandbranch.com/AD.