Be There in Five

This week, Kate is solo and snorkeling through some of the latest and oldest of topics, like time. She warms up by wandering through things like grandfather clocks, the true crime history of the Magdalene Laundries (aka "Maggies") in Ireland, Harrison Butker's speech, lyrics where people quote Taylor Swift but don't realize she's quoting someone else, and ponders why we treat punctuality like it's an inherent virtue to the human condition when people had no way of knowing the precise time until the 18th century. Then, she crowdsources on IG in real time people's thoughts about having heirlooms as millennials in an era of fast fashion and furniture, highlighting the statement pieces of yesteryear that are incredibly pricey to maintain and whose experts are dying off. Then Kate goes off on a tangent about lucrative niche trade careers, like fixing grandfather clocks and elevator technicians, in case anyone's in the mood for a career pivot. Very random, they can't all be hits, enjoy! Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Go to www.cozyearth.com/bethereinfive to enjoy 30% off using the code BETHEREINFIVE. And after placing your order, select "podcast" in the survey and then select "BE THERE IN FIVE" in the dropdown menu that follows. Turn your ordinary water into extraordinary hydration with Liquid I.V. Get 20% off your first order of Liquid I.V. when you go to LIQUID-IV.COM and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. That's 20% off your first order when you shop better hydration today using promo code BETHEREINFIVE at LIQUID-IV.COM. HyaCera from Ritual is a clinically-proven skin supplement you can actually trust.* Get 25% off your first month for a limited time at ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Start Ritual or add HyaCera to your subscription today. That's ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE for 25% off.

This week, beloved #1 best-selling author Emily Henry (Beach Read, Book Lovers, Happy Place, etc.) is back for Millennial Ennui: the Sequel to chat about her latest romance novel, Funny Story. Kate and Em Hen (she delusionally thinks they're BFFs/on a nickname basis) talk about a variety of topics, from gift shop enthusiasm to the characters we problematically root for in RomComs, to the prevalence of fudge in touristy areas. They also discuss female friendships, what it's like behind-the-scenes to adapt books to the big screen, and explore the intricacies of female characters in Emily's books and the related challenges faced by women in their 30s—touching on breakups, motherhood desires, and societal expectations. The convo also dances through Taylor Swift's songwriting, the struggles of writing deadlines, and the wonders of libraries as havens for diverse stories and support. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here: https://static.macmillan.com/static/smp/one-in-a-millenial/ Right now, BÉIS is offering our listeners 15% off your first purchase by visiting BEISTRAVEL.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Go to BEISTRAVEL.com/BETHEREINFIVE for 15% off your first purchase. Helix is offering up to 30% off all mattress orders AND two free pillows for our listeners! Go to HelixSleep.com/BeThereInFive. That's HelixSleep.Com/BeThereInFive. This is their best offer yet and it won't last long! With Helix, better sleep starts now. One Pair, infinite possibilities. Go to paireyewear.com and use code BTIF for 15% off your first pair. And support the show by mentioning that Be There in Five sent you in your post-checkout survey! That's paireyewear.com, code BTIF. The Fits Everybody collection is available in sizes XXS to 4X. You can shop now at SKIMS.com. After you place your order, be sure to let them know I sent you! Select "podcast" in the survey and be sure to select my show in the dropdown menu that follows. Tags: Interview, Author, Romance Novels, Emily Henry, RomComs, Taylor Swift, Michigan

This week, Kate's chatting with co-author of the audiobook The Art of Small Talk (also actress, comedian, host of The Deep Dive podcast), Jessica St. Clair. Jessica shares her personal experience with the gift of gab and gives advice about the art of casual conversation, with topics ranging from how to be friendly with neighbors to stories about pleasant celeb run-ins. Overall, a joyful interaction that is essentially a celebration of the joys of everyday interactions. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Sign up at butcherbox.com/BETHEREINFIVE and get our special deal! Butcherbox is offering our listeners a special deal plus $20 off your first order. Join today using my link butcherbox.com/BETHEREINFIVE and use code BETHEREINFIVE receive this unique deal today. Turn your ordinary water into extraordinary hydration with Liquid I.V. Get 20% off your first order of Liquid I.V. when you go to LIQUID-IV.COM and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. That's 20% off your first order when you shop better hydration today using promo code BETHEREINFIVE at LIQUID-IV.COM. Get healthy, glowing skin for summer with clean, vegan skin and body care from OSEA. Get 10% off your first order sitewide with code BETHEREINFIVE at OSEAMalibu.com. You'll get free samples with every order, and free shipping on orders over $60.

This week, Kate interviews podcast listener and NFL WAG Haley Pepper, who shares her experiences with a lot of BTI5 adjacent topics, like pageants, Bama sororities, and being in a relationship with a professional athlete. She discusses the misconceptions and realities of this lifestyle, including the lack of job security, the high expenses, and the pressure of constantly moving and adapting, along with the challenges of motherhood. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Head to cozyearth.com, and use code BETHEREINFIVE to discover your next destination for ultimate comfort with Cozy Earth. Turn your ordinary water into extraordinary hydration with Liquid I.V. Get 20% off your first order of Liquid I.V. when you go to LIQUID-IV.COM and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. Simplify your kiddo's mealtime with 30% OFF your first order. Go to LITTLESPOON.COM/BETHEREINFIVE and enter our code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout to get 30% OFF your first Little Spoon order. For understated luxury at its best this spring, shop the must-have pairs of the season and receive 20% off your purchase with code BETHEREINFIVE

This week, Kate is joined by NYT bestselling romance author Carley Fortune (Meet Me at the Lake, Every Summer After) to discuss her latest book, dropping on May 7th, This Summer Will Be Different. They discuss Carley's former "RomCom job" as an editor at Refinery29 Canada and her pivot to becoming a romance writer, the importance of strong female friendships and real experiences represented in literature, and why Prince Edward Island may be the next hot vacation spot. They also touch on literary tropes, Carley's journey of writing through early motherhood, and how her own life has shaped her storytelling. Then, Kate can't help but fangirl that Meet Me at the Lake has been optioned by Archewell Productions, so she asks if she's met Meg, among other things. No spoilers - Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here: https://static.macmillan.com/static/smp/one-in-a-millenial/ Read "This Summer Will be Different" by Carley Fortune: https://www.carleyfortune.com/this-summer-will-be-different Right now, BÉIS (base) is offering our listeners 15% off your first purchase by visiting BEISTRAVEL.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Get 25% off your first month for a limited time at ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Start Ritual or add HyaCera today. That's ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE for 25% off. Whether you're off on a grand adventure or just chillin' at home, Cozy Earth has your back (and your bed) covered. Head to cozyearth.com, and use code BETHEREINFIVE to discover your next destination for ultimate comfort with Cozy Earth.

This week, Kate crowdsources stories about attempting to, getting away with, or getting caught consuming age-inappropriate content as a kid and reads brave and inspiring stories from pop culture champions who fought for lyrics that weren't clean and movies only suitable for ages over thirteen. From tales from the locked-and-loaded thumbs on the 'back' button of the remote control to the trials of the photocopiers and/or printers of the lyrics to "What's Your Fantasy," to the tribulations of those who fantasized about being "rubbed the right way" in their Genie in a Bottle era, this episode has something for everybody. If you have a story to share, email podcast@bethereinfive.com with the episode title in the subject line. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! For understated luxury at its best this spring, shop the must-have pairs of the season and receive 20% off your purchase with code BETHEREINFIVE at marcfisherfootwear.com. Visit dreamlandbabyco.com and use code BETHEREINFIVE for 20% off, new and existing customers! You can shop now at SKIMS.com. After you place your order, be sure to let them know I sent you! Select "podcast" in the survey and be sure to select my show in the dropdown menu that follows.

First impressions of Taylor Swift's 11th studio album, The Tortured Poets Department. See Kate and her sister Kelly's live reactions in 4 parts on patreon.com/bethereinfive if you're in the crowd and screaming MORE! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Use my link butcherbox.com/BETHEREINFIVE and use code BETHEREINFIVE to get $20 off your first order. That's butcherbox.com/BETHEREINFIVE and code BETHEREINFIVE. Get 20% off your first order of Liquid I.V. when you go to LIQUID-IV.COM and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. That's 20% off your first order when you shop better hydration today using promo code BETHEREINFIVE at LIQUID-IV.COM. Get 10% off your first order sitewide with code BETHEREINFIVE at OSEAMalibu.com. You'll get free samples with every order, and free shipping on orders over $60. Go to paireyewear.com and use code BTIF for 15% off your first pair. And support the show by mentioning that [Be There in Five] sent you in your post-checkout survey!

This week, a magical marvel of a solar event stuns the world, and Kate and Caroline can't be bothered to go outside. Instead, they take a look into their mirrored furniture and do some self-reflection, such as why we always think the current version of ourselves participating in lightning-fast trend turnover is "timeless." They also discuss various topics like avoiding popular movies and tv shows that will bum them out, fast furniture, SoulCycle music, etc. At one point, Kate goes on a rant about the marketing of a denim company that works overtime to remind her she probably hates her body post-baby, and they also spend quite a bit of time going through the Cupcakes & Cashmere archives on the Wayback machine. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Treat yourself to ultimate comfort with Cozy Earth bedding and sleepwear, and prioritize your self-care and sleep health. You deserve it Mom. Head over to cozyearth.com and use promo code BETHEREINFIVE for an exclusive 35% off. The luxury she deserves. Cozy Earth. Helix is offering 20% off all mattress orders AND two free pillows for our listeners! Go to HelixSleep.com.BeThereInFive and use code HELIXPARTNER20. This is their best offer yet and it won't last long! With Helix, better sleep starts now. Take the first step to visibly thicker, healthier hair. For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners ten dollars off your first month's subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code BETHEREINFIVE. Find out why over 4,500 healthcare professionals and hair stylists recommend Nutrafol for healthier hair. For understated luxury at its best this spring, shop the must-have pairs of the season and receive 20% off your purchase with code BETHEREINFIVE at marcfisherfootwear.com.

This week, Amanda Montell (linguist and bestselling author of Cultish) is back on the pod for the first time since the LuLaRoe deep dive. This time, they're discussing Amanda's new book (out April 9) called The Age of Magical Overthinking, which explores our cognitive biases and the power, disadvantages, and highlights of magical thinking. Broadly defined as the belief that one's internal thoughts can affect unrelated events in the external world, the book (and this episode) examines topics like celebrity worship, manifesting babes, therapy speak, toxic relationships, weaponized nostalgia, conspiracy theories, and other categories where our inner mental gymnasts are doing the most to justify our behavior. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Right now, BÉIS (base) is offering our listeners 15% off your first purchase by visiting BEISTRAVEL.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Go to BEISTRAVEL.com/BETHEREINFIVE for 15% off your first purchase. Get 20% off your first order when you go to LIQUID-IV.COM and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. That's 20% off your first order when you shop better hydration today using promo code BETHEREINFIVE at LIQUID-IV.COM. Get 10% off your first order sitewide with code BETHEREINFIVE at OSEAMalibu.com. You'll get free samples with every order, and free shipping on orders over $60. Get 25% off your first month for a limited time at ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Start Ritual or add HyaCera to your subscription today. That's ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE for 25% off.

This week, Kate is joined by Cassey Ho, best known for her blog/brand/YouTube channel Blogilates and also for being CEO and lead designer behind her apparel line POPFLEX. As the daughter of Vietnamese immigrants, Cassey's non-negotiable, pre-destined career path was medicine. Despite her dream of becoming a fashion designer being severely suppressed, she found her way out of biology and into design and fitness influencing in the heyday of YouTube and now has amassed millions of subscribers and followers, billions of views, and a wildly successful activewear line (that Kate wears constantly). She also happens to be a Beth, so this combines two series: Under the Influencer & Beths in Show. They dive into her background, her YouTube days, diet culture and body positivity, internet trolls who comment on your body, Popflex crowdsourced product development and design, and Kate even provides her two cents about what she needs in an elusive black one-piece bathing suit and Cassey just might be up for the task. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Columbus & Minneapolis tickets for sale Monday 4/1 10 EST at bethereinfive.com/live-shows Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Go to dreamlandbabyco.com and enter my code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout to receive 20% off sitewide + free shipping. This offer is for new and existing customers! Prose is SO confident that you'll bring out your best hair and skin that they're offering an exclusive trial offer of FIFTY percent off your first subscription order at PROSE.com/bethereinfive. So you get your FREE consultation, then FIFTY percent off at PROSE.com/bethereinfive. For understated luxury at its best this spring, shop the must-have pairs of the season and receive 20% off your purchase with code BETHEREINFIVE at marcfisherfootwear.com.