
Conversations with Tyler
Tyler Cowen engages today’s deepest thinkers in wide-ranging explorations of their work, the world, and everything in between. New conversations every other Wednesday. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.
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Jan 18, 2023 • 55min
Rick Rubin on Listening, Taste, and the Act of Noticing
Rick Rubin, a legendary music producer known for his work with iconic artists and author of "The Creative Act," discusses the nuances of listening and creativity. He shares insights on how streaming has transformed artist compensation and the music industry. Rubin reflects on early influences from punk to hip hop, and the importance of respecting an artist's vision in production. He also highlights the magic of live albums and the role of technology in shaping music, offering a vibrant perspective on the art of listening and creation.

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Jan 11, 2023 • 54min
Katherine Rundell on the Art of Words
Katherine Rundell, a celebrated children's author and fellow at All Souls College, shares her vibrant enthusiasm for poetry and adventure. She reveals her obsession with John Donne's intricate views on faith and suicide, and the unique intensity of 17th-century thought. Rundell discusses the thrilling yet risky experience of rooftop walking and why children should embrace mischief. She also offers insights into the political implications of literature for young readers and shares her love for quirky storytelling, including her favorite books and the beauty of sacred texts.

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Dec 28, 2022 • 53min
Conversations with Tyler 2022 Retrospective
Reflecting on last year's captivating conversations, the hosts discuss standout guests, including the insights gained from Sam Bankman-Fried's controversial interview. They delve into the challenges of securing high-profile guests while engaging in rapid-fire discussions on pressing topics. The impact of music in culture, the evolution of cinematic adaptations, and the art of argument in sports media are also explored. Listeners are encouraged to participate, and the hosts share their thoughts on memorable pop culture moments.

Dec 14, 2022 • 46min
John Adams on Composing and Creative Freedom
In this engaging discussion, John Adams, a renowned American composer celebrated for his operas like Nixon in China, shares his insights on contemporary classical music. He passionately asserts that the genre is far from dying. Adams reveals the challenges of adapting Antony and Cleopatra into opera and contrasts classical music with popular genres. He reflects on personal influences, the role of Christianity in his work, and the significant artistic tension in film composing, all while expressing his excitement for future projects.

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Nov 30, 2022 • 40min
Jeremy Grantham on Investing in Green Tech
Jeremy Grantham, co-founder of Grantham, Mayo & Van Otterloo, shares his expertise as a prominent investor with a focus on environmental issues. He discusses the urgent need for technological advancements in green energy, highlighting challenges in lithium extraction and the potential for alternative materials. Grantham emphasizes the underestimated costs of global warming and critiques traditional economic models. His insights on American venture capital and the influence of historical leadership on resource management round out a compelling conversation about sustainability and investment strategies.

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Nov 16, 2022 • 53min
Ken Burns on the Complications of History
In this engaging conversation, Ken Burns, renowned documentarian and author of *Our America: A Photographic History*, shares his insights into the complexities of American history. He discusses the evolution of photography, from formal portraits to today’s selfies, and touches on the ethical implications of depicting violence in documentaries. Burns reflects on the importance of female figures in early photography, his unique quilt collection, and the surprisingly profound connections between crossword puzzles and filmmaking. His passion for storytelling and the future of documentaries are also explored.

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Nov 2, 2022 • 46min
Mary Gaitskill on Subjects That Are Vexing Everybody
Mary Gaitskill, an acclaimed novelist and essayist known for her candid portrayals of human complexities, joins the conversation to discuss a variety of thought-provoking topics. She reveals why some people choose unhappiness and explores the fragility of personality through the lens of human and feline behaviors. Gaitskill reflects on her experiences working as a stripper and at The Strand bookstore, critiques creative writing programs, and shares insights on navigating online writing. Her frank approach to topics like cloning pets and supporting troubled teenagers is both enlightening and heart-wrenching.

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Oct 19, 2022 • 53min
Reza Aslan on Martyrdom, Islam, and Revolution
Reza Aslan, an author and expert on religion, dives into the multifaceted concepts of martyrdom and spirituality. He discusses the significance of Hussein in Shia beliefs and the inspiring story of Howard Baskerville, an American martyr in Persia. Aslan contrasts Sunni and Shia Islam, touching on the expressive nature of Sufism. He reflects on his Iranian heritage, examines Iran's historical struggles for democracy, and shares insights into how cultural contexts shape religious identity. His journey reveals profound connections between faith, philosophy, and societal movements.

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Oct 5, 2022 • 52min
Walter Russell Mead on the Past and Future of American Foreign Policy
Walter Russell Mead, a foreign policy expert and columnist for The Wall Street Journal, shares his insights on the evolution of U.S. foreign policy. He discusses how the decline of American religiosity has affected policy decisions and compares various presidents’ understanding of the Middle East. Mead analyzes Stalin's strategic support for Israel during the Cold War and explores the geopolitical dynamics in regions like Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. He critiques the academic influence on policy-making and highlights key traits to identify future leaders in foreign affairs.

Sep 21, 2022 • 54min
Byron Auguste On Rewiring the U.S. Labor Market
Byron Auguste, President and co-founder of Opportunity@Work, discusses the flaws in the U.S. labor market, particularly the over-reliance on college degrees for job qualifications. He advocates for skills-based hiring, exemplified by Maryland's removal of degree requirements for state jobs. Byron highlights the importance of on-the-job training and critiques traditional education paradigms. He also dives into why IQ might be overrated while conscientiousness is crucial, and shares insights on the impact of AI in predicting labor outcomes, urging a more inclusive approach to hiring.