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Peter Schiff
Peter Schiff is an economist, financial broker/dealer, author, frequent guest on national news, and host of the Peter Schiff Show Podcast. The podcast focuses on economic data analysis and unbiased coverage of financial news, both in the U.S. and global markets. As entertaining as he is informative, Peter packs decades of brilliant insight into every news item. Join the thousands of fans who have benefited from Peter’s commitment to getting the real story out to the world.
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Jun 3, 2017 • 31min
Weak Data Further Undermines Fed’s Credibility – Ep. 253
Summary: Today's big miss in the Nonfarm Payroll report indicates further proof for the Fed that the Q1 weak economic data was not transitory. Coupled with disappointing Labor Force Participation declines and increasing Trade Deficit numbers, the Fed will have no good news to justify a rate hike. All this news does not bode well for the U.S. dollar index, which closed at a new low for the year today. The next crisis is the dollar.
* Following yesterday's much stronger than expected May ADP Jobs report, the consensus was for 170,000 jobs and the actual number was 253,000
* The stage was set for another strong number for today's employment report
* But we didn't get it
* We got the official number from the U.S. government earlier this morning
* The consensus was for 185,000 jobs created
* We actually created, according to the government, just 138,00 jobs - a big miss
* In addition to that, they took last month's initial 211,000 report and they lowered that down to just 174,000
* In fact they made revisions to the prior month as well
* The official unemployment rate actually went down to 4.3%
* I think that is a new low
* Why did the unemployment rate drop?
* For the same reason it has been dropping; lots of people left the labor force
* Labor Force Participation once again dropped .02 to 62.7%
* That matches the all time record low
* We actually had more than 600,000 people leave the labor force in the month of May
* A new all-time record high
* In fact, breaking it down by part-time and full-time, all of the net new jobs added were part time jobs
* We actually lost 367,000 full-time jobs during the month of May
* That is the biggest decline in full-time employment in 3 years
* Of course, as usual, the jobs that we do create were in leisure and hospitality, education healthcare, temporary services
* We actually lost some information technology jobs, we lost jobs in the retail trade; small gains in the wholesale trade, a little better than normal in manufacturing and logging
* But a still a tiny portion of the overall jobs in goods-producing segments of the economy
* So we continue to create non-productive jobs which is another reason that the trade deficit continues to rise, and we'll get to that in a minute
* Weekly hourly earnings up just .02%, matching expectations on the lower end
* But they went back to last month's, originally reported as +.03% and they moved that down to +.2%
* So earnings are not growing, full-time jobs are disappearing, and this economy is weakening
* In fact, also yesterday, Challenger job cuts report announced layoffs surged in the month of May from 36,602 in April to 51,692 in May
* This is the highest number of announced layoffs of any month of the year
* That doesn't bode well for future job creation if all of a sudden we're getting a spike in layoffs
* In addition to the bad jobs report, which of course is going to weigh on GDP in Q2
* We got the trade deficit for April, which is the first month of the second quarter
* They were looking for a deficit of $46.1 billion
* Instead, the deficit ballooned all the way up to $47.6 billion
* From what was originally reported at $43.7 billion in March, revised that up to $45.3 billion
* So this is going to take away not only from Q2 GDP but it's going to go back and take away from Q1 GDP
* Remember, in my last podcast, I pointed out that the Federal Reserve, specifically, in their minutes said that before they raise rates again they want confirmation that the Q1 weak economic data was transitory
* Meanwhile all of the data that has come out since those minutes were released actually proves the oppositeOur Sponsors:* Check out Avocado Green Mattress: https://avocadogreenmattress.com* Check out Boll & Branch: https://boilandbranch.com/SCHIFF* Check out Fast Growing Trees and use my code GOLD for a great deal: https://www.fast-growing-trees.comPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Jun 1, 2017 • 24min
Does Weak Box Office Reflect Weak Economy? – Ep. 252
Summary: Box office revenues for this holiday weekend were the weakest since 1999. Why is that? Some say the movies were not very good, but I think it's more likely that this is just another piece of evidence that supports the fact that the consumer is in much worse shape than is generally perceived.
* Hopefully everybody had a happy Memorial Day weekend; I spent my holiday weekend up in Vancouver at the International Metal Writers Conference
* And when I came home, I came back to my home in Connecticut
* This was the first year I spent the winter in Puerto Rico, from January 1 until just a few days ago
* I bought a condo in Puerto Rico a few years ago, I moved my Euro Pacific Asset Management Company there from California at about that time, but I'd never moved there myself until this year
* I like snow, it's pretty, but the next time I see snow it's because I'm skiing on it
* I'm a snowbird now
* But this time I'm not only flying out of bad weather, I'm flying out of high taxes
* It's not just the high taxes in Connecticut; it's the high taxes in the U.S.
* By the way, Connecticut is basically broke, if you read a lot of the articles now
* The tax revenue is collapsing
* I'm moving from a bankrupt state to a bankrupt territory
* Puerto Rico has already declared bankruptcy; Connecticut hasn't actually done that
* Connecticut is admitting that they can't raise taxes on the rich anymore, because the rich are leaving
* I moved down to Puerto Rico with my wife and two young children, and I love it
* I live in a nice community, Dorado Beach; great neighborhood, many in the same situation as me
* I read this article about box office - holiday weekends are usually a good time for Hollywood
* Memorial weekend is a big weekend to kick off the summer movie season
* The article I read stated that box office revenues for this holiday weekend were the weakest since 1999
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May 27, 2017 • 26min
Fed Admits It Needs Evidence Q1 Weakness Was Transitory – Ep. 251
Summary: The Fed is now indicating it needs evidence that the Q1 weak economic data is transitory and not a trend. This is interesting for 2 reasons. The Fed's narrative has always been to tout economic growth even in the face of flimsy or no supporting data. Now the Fed is actually admitting there is weakness. The other interesting thing is that, although the Fed continues to claim it is "data dependent", it has been ignoring the economic data ever since the first rate hike. The market puts chances of a June rate hike at almost 100%. Maybe that is because it believes the Fed will raise rates regardless of proof.
* On Wednesday we got the release of the Federal Open Market Committee's minutes
* As usual, the FOMC is indicating that as long as the economy continues to evolve according to their forecast, that it would be appropriate to remove additional accommodations soon
* And, I guess the markets are assuming soon is in about 3 weeks when the Fed meets in June everybody anticipates that the Fed will hike rates again
* Actually raising interest rates all the way back up to 1% - that would be the new floor on rates
* That was the lowest that rates got during the Greenspan era that gave us the housing bubble and ensuing financial crisis
* It's taken a long time even to get up to that insanely low level of interest rates
* But everybody still assumes - I think the probability is near 100% - that the Fed is going to raise rates in June
* But what I thought was interesting about those minutes, and nobody's talking about this
* In the minutes, the Federal Reserve said that they are also looking for proof that the weak economic data from the first quarter was transitory
* They're looking for proof in order to continue to raise rates
* I'm thinking, if the Fed says they need proof that Q1 data was transitory, are they actually going to get that proof by the June meeting?
* If they don't have the proof yet, are they going to have it by June?
* Almost all the economic data that has come out recently, including this week, has been pretty bad
* In fact, the data that we're getting confirms to me that rather than being transitory
* The weakness in the first quarter is likely to continue
* If it's transitory at all it is because we're transitioning into a recession
* So if the Fed is looking for proof that the economic data was transitory, thus far they haven't gotten any
* If they actually need the proof prior to raising rates, they maybe they are not going to raise rates in June
* The market doesn't seem to even give that a possibility
* Maybe it's because the Fed claims to be data dependent
* Yet they've ignored data ever since the first rate hike
* Now they are saying that the data they are depending on is data that is going to provide proof that the first quarter weakness is transitory
* Maybe the markets aren't buying that, they're saying, "We think the Fed's going to raise rates regardless of whether or not there's any proof."
* Even if there is no proof, they are going to pretend that there isOur Sponsors:* Check out Avocado Green Mattress: https://avocadogreenmattress.com* Check out Boll & Branch: https://boilandbranch.com/SCHIFF* Check out Fast Growing Trees and use my code GOLD for a great deal: https://www.fast-growing-trees.comPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

May 23, 2017 • 34min
The Dollar’s Decline Is Only Just Getting Started – Ep. 250
Summary: The dollar's decline really started with the Fed's too-little-too late rate hikes. The rally of 2014 - 2015 was fueled by expectations of more aggressive Fed monetary policy that did not materialize. We've been trending sideways since then with the exception of an upward spike after the Trump victory. Now, as much of the hype surrounding Trump's election is losing its momentum, support for the dollar is waning. This is not a case of "buy the rumor, sell the fact". This is going to be a situation where the fact does not live up to the rumor.
* The dollar continued its losing streak today. The dollar index was down for the 8th time in 9 days
* The 9 day decline is about 2-1/2 percent
* The dollar index actually traded below 97 today for the first time since Donald Trump was elected President
* So we have wiped out 100% of the ill-gotten dollar gains that were racked up in the wake of that victory
* If you remember, when the dollar was rallying as a result of the trump victory, I said it was a sucker's rally and sure enough, that's exactly what it was
* The dollar's decline is only just getting started
* I think the dollar would have begun its decline a while ago had Hillary Clinton been elected
* But because of Trump's unexpected victory and the prospects of faster economic growth,
* Trump-flation (as if inflation were even good for the dollar) but to the extent that it made the Fed raise interest rates
* That's what created the rally and it was a great selling opportunity for people who understood what really was going on
* But all we've done thus far is get rid of gains that never should have been racked up
* The dollar hasn't really even begun its decline, but I think that decline is going to begin in earnest
* In fact, my next target for the dollar index is going to be around 92, which is about 5% below current levels
* But if we get below 92, that will be the dollar's lowest level since January 2015, so about a 2-1/2 year low, assuming we get there in the next couple of months, depending how long it takes to trade down
* But what really gets interesting once the dollar index gets below 92
* If you look at a chart, there's nothing but air between 92 and 80
* Because the dollar index rose in 2014
* The dollar had a huge rally anticipating the Fed's tightening monetary policy
* Tapering and all the talk about rate hikes
* That was probably the best year for the dollar
* And that momentum continued into 2015
* The dollar didn't lose its momentum until the Fed started hiking ratesOur Sponsors:* Check out Avocado Green Mattress: https://avocadogreenmattress.com* Check out Boll & Branch: https://boilandbranch.com/SCHIFF* Check out Fast Growing Trees and use my code GOLD for a great deal: https://www.fast-growing-trees.comPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

May 18, 2017 • 29min
Will Republicans Dump Trump for Pence? – Ep. 249
Summary: Republicans face chaos around Trump's political difficulties, causing some to consider potential advantages of a President Pence. Market volatility has not yet brought the DJIA below pre-Trump numbers while the dollar index slides and gold moves up. Meanwhile, household debt is higher than 2008 levels even as fewer Americans own homes.
* It looks like I picked a very volatile week to go out to Las Vegas, although I didn't pick this week; the week picked me
* I have two conferences that I am attending here: the Las Vegas Money Show and the SkyBridge Alternatives Conference otherwise known as SALT
* A lot is going on, certainly the political chaos in the United States, the Dow was down 365 points yesterday based on new revelations with respect to why Donald Trump may have fired FBI Director James Comey
* Was he doing it because Comey refused to give up on his investigation of Trump's Russian ties?
* Now you've got Congress members on both sides of the aisle questioning whether the allegations are true
* Apparently Comey has some contemporaneous notes of conversations he had with Donald Trump
* Donald Trump may have asked him to give up the investigation
* Although from what I've heard President Trump said it would be nice if Comey gave up the investigation - was that some kind of idle threat?
* Did that mean "You'd better do it, or you're fired."
* I have no idea, but this obviously is creating concerns for the Trump Administration
* The market, as far as I'm concerned, is really not down very much at all, given how much it had rallied based on nothing but the optimism surrounding expectations for all the good things that would happen as a result of a Trump Presidency
* We were going to get tax reform, we were going to get regulations; we were going to have all this stimulus
* Not only has none of these things materialized yet, even before the scandals broke, it was obvious that even if we got any of the promised legislation
* Of course I've always said it would not even help the economy
* But regardless, people actually think it it is going to, which created the big stock market rally
* Even before this controversy it was obvious that the expected improvements were going to take a lot longer than people thought
* Now this is going to delay Trump's agenda even more
* Because now, rather than concentrating on tax reform or repealing ObamaCare, or stimulus, now they've got to deal with damage control to hold on to the Presidency and fend off these calls for impeachment
* Now they've got to get a special prosecutor and all of this is going to add additional delays
* Of course, a lot of momentum we had in Q1, in spite of weak GDP, you had all this confidence, all this enthusiasm on the part of Republicans and Trump voters
* And it was all this confidence that was supposed to lead to extra economic growth
* Businesses were going to have more confidence to invest and hire
* And consumers were going to have more confidence to spend
* Well certainly, what is happening now in the White House is going to shake some of that confidence
* Some of the people who were so enthusiastic about Trump don't even know if Trump is going to be there anymore
* And to the extent that is is there, he is politically damaged
* Now he has to use a lot of his political capital just to secure his position rather than to advance his agenda
* Whether or not that agenda would actually help the economy
* Despite that, the drop in the stock market is not very large
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May 13, 2017 • 25min
Fed And Markets Excuse Retail Bloodbath – Ep. 248
Summary: The retail sector is in worse shape today than it was in 2008 during and immediately following the financial crisis. Retailing has been responsible for 10% of the jobs gained during this so-called recovery. Clearly part of the problem is the increase in minimum wage. Why are retailers adding so many jobs when their business is declining?
* A quick little announcement at the beginning of this podcast; I'm going to try to keep the length of these podcasts down to 20 minutes in the future
* It seems we have quite a bit of audience falloff after about 17 minutes
* We're also skipping our ads at the end in favor of more informative content about Euro Pacific Capital, SchiffGold, Goldmoney and Euro Pacific Bank.
* So I am going to do these shorter podcasts more frequently
* First of all, it's the RetailPocalypse, which I have been talking about on this podcast that, from my perspective - not just my perspective,
* In reality, the retail sector is in worse shape today than it was in 2008 during and immediately foll0wing the financial crisis
* We got a lot of bad news from the retailers this week
* Including JCPenny and Nordstrom's - horrible sales from these companies
* We had other retailers earlier in the week that came out with bad news
* Kohl's Department Store, Dillards
* Kohl's stock is at 36.5 as I record this
* That stock's high was $75-$80 in the summer of 2015
* So it's down 60% or so
* Dillard's is at a 52-week low today, at just under $47
* That was over $120 - more than a 50% decline
* Macy's was down another 3% today - a new 52-week low
* Macy's is at $23.60 -it was a $70 stock
* These are huge markdowns for retail stocks
* Look at Nordstrom's - down almost 11% today on the bad news
* $41.20 - Nordstrom's was an $80 stock is one of the best performers
* JCPenny is going to get the prize for the biggest decline overall
* This stock's been falling for a long time
* It closed today at $4.55
* A lot of people are very complacent - they say, "Oh, it's no big deal because it's all about e-commerce
* Everybody is shopping online
* Look at Amazon - Amazon stock hit a new 52-week high today
* All time high, not just a 52-week high
* Jeff Bezos is on the way to being the richest man in the worldOur Sponsors:* Check out Avocado Green Mattress: https://avocadogreenmattress.com* Check out Boll & Branch: https://boilandbranch.com/SCHIFF* Check out Fast Growing Trees and use my code GOLD for a great deal: https://www.fast-growing-trees.comPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

May 11, 2017 • 43min
Fantasy Trumps Reality – Ep. 247
Summary: Trump fantasy persists in the face of weakening economic data, health care and tax reform uncertainty. The reality is that the damage done to the economy will not right itself just because Trump has been elected and we are in for a wild ride whether or not President Trump decides to do the right thing for the American economy.
* It didn't take long for the Atlanta Fed to already reduce its inflated Q2 GDP forecast
* Remember, they initially came out with their first estimate of 4.3% growth in the second quarter
* Following the dismal .7% that was initially released for Q1
* My guess is, still, that they will continue lowering that estimate as more economic data comes in
* Nonetheless, the Atlanta Fed boldly came out with 4.3% for Q2
* Already, earlier this week, they have reduced that estimate to 3.6%
* That was their first downward revision; I think it is going to be the first of many
* We did this exact same dance last quarter
* Where the Atlanta Fed starts high and as more and more weaker data comes in they keep notching down the estimate
* It's like a GDP forecasting limbo
* The question is:"How low can the bar go?"
* Remember, I mentioned on my last video blog that the New York Fed is already down to 1.8% for Q2, so the Atlanta Fed has a long way to go to catch up to the New York Fed's estimate
* Friday will bring the next update to the GDP estimate
* And that's when we will get the retail sales numbers
* My guess is that we will continue the trend and those sales will be less than expected
* We already got some news today that should weigh on Q2 GDP and that is Import/Export Prices for the month of April
* This is important because obviously what we pay for our imports and what we get for our exports will be a big determinate of the trade deficitOur Sponsors:* Check out Avocado Green Mattress: https://avocadogreenmattress.com* Check out Boll & Branch: https://boilandbranch.com/SCHIFF* Check out Fast Growing Trees and use my code GOLD for a great deal: https://www.fast-growing-trees.comPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

May 7, 2017 • 36min
Fed Dismisses Weak Data to Posture for Another Rate Hike
SchiffReport recorded Saturday, May 6
* On Wednesday of this week, the Federal Reserve against a rate hike in May
* But based on their official statement, the market assigned a much higher probability
* To a rate hike coming in June
* In fact, following Friday's slightly better-than-expected Non-Farm Payroll report, the probability of a June rate hike is not near 100%
* In other words, the markets are certain that a quart-point hike is coming next month
* If the Federal Reserve does raise its rates by a quarter point, that will bring the floor of the official rate finally up to 1%
* The ceiling being 1.25%, so presumably the Fed will target a Fed funds rate somewhere between 1 - 1.25%
* This is still an exceptionally low interest rate indicating extreme monetary accommodation
* Remember, 1% is the absolute low that Alan Greenspan lowered interest rates to in the aftermath of the 2001 recession and the 9/11 terrorist attack
* That artificially low interest rate really provided the air for the housing bubble that resulted in the 2008 Financial Crisis
* So despite these rate hikes, the Fed monetary policy remains extremely accommodative,
* Just not as accommodative as they were before
* If you recall, the main reason I was certain that the Fed was not like to deliver these rate hikes
* Is because I took the Fed at its word that it was data dependent
* And I believed that the Fed would use weak data as an opportunity or an excuse to not raise interest rates
* I was wrong about that, because the Federal Reserve has ignored all of the weakening economic data and has raised rates anyway
* It has raised them very slowly, but nonetheless, it has raised interest rates despite the fact that all the data they claim to depend on would not support that decision
* I thought for 2 reasons the Fed would not want to hike rates
* The first be to delay the onset of the next recession
* After all, raising rates into a weakening economy it would accelerate the onset of that recession
* I thought the Fed would always err on a delay
* But apparently, that is not a concern for the Fed
* One of the reasons this might be the case is because the Fed is concerned about having some ammunition to fight the next recession, rather than to postpone the onset
* Meaning that they want to get interest rates further above zero before the recession officially begins so that once it is here, they have more room to cut rates
* Another reason that the Fed has been more willing to raise rates has to do with the action in the U.S. stock market
* I thought the Fed would be reluctant to raise rates for fear of how higher rates might impact the stock market
* But it seems the stock market has found another prop
* It is no longer relying on cheap money; it now also relying on hope and optimism surrounding the election of Donald Trump
* And the idea that he is somehow going to "Make America Great Again"
* With deregulation, tax cuts and all sorts of economic stimulusOur Sponsors:* Check out Avocado Green Mattress: https://avocadogreenmattress.com* Check out Boll & Branch: https://boilandbranch.com/SCHIFF* Check out Fast Growing Trees and use my code GOLD for a great deal: https://www.fast-growing-trees.comPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

May 2, 2017 • 34min
Fed Forecasts – Propaganda or Incompetence? – Ep. 246
Summary: Last quarter the Atlanta Fed's Q1 GDP forecast was 3.4% in February. The most recent number was actually .7%. After all the negative economic data that came out today suggesting that Q1 could be revised lower, the Atlanta Fed came out with their forecast for Q2 GDP at 4.3%. How is this possible, with no economic data to support this projection? Either they believe their policies are still valid in the face of data on a downward trajectory, or they are simply acting as salesmen, promoting economic health regardless of the actual data.
* Today was Donald Trump's 100th day as President of the United States
* The media is covering this event and looking back over the last 100 days
* Trying to assess the effectiveness of Trump's presidency thus far
* What has he accomplished, how much progress has he made;
* I think the origin of assessing the first 100 days of a presidency goes back to Franklin Delano Roosevelt
* Who of course became president during the Great Depression
* I think the President accomplished a lot during his first 100 days
* That's been the benchmark for which future presidents have been judged
* It's not about which President did the most good for the country during the first 100 days
* It's just, "Who did the most?"
* Because, FDR did a lot, all of it harmed the economy
* Not only did FDR's exacerbate and expand the depression,
* His actions had repercussions for decades
* We are suffering today from the mistakes that FDR made in his first 100 days
* He accomplished a lot, but he accomplished a lot of mistakes
* I would rather have a president do nothing for his first 100 days
* If a President just played golf for 100 days and did nothing
* Chances are he might be the best president we've ever had
* Most Presidents do damage to the economy during their first 100 days
* To the extent that they pass a law, chances are, the law just limited our freedom and reduced our standard of living
* That's true for most politicians: doing nothing is better than doing something
* Because doing something normally means doing harm
* I wish politicians would take the Hippocratic Oath, "First do not harm"
* If politicians took that oath, they could not do anything
* To the extent that a President can undo the damage done by a previous President
* Then, he would be doing a good thing
* I recognize that some of the things that Trump is trying to do is to undo Obama's mistakesOur Sponsors:* Check out Avocado Green Mattress: https://avocadogreenmattress.com* Check out Boll & Branch: https://boilandbranch.com/SCHIFF* Check out Fast Growing Trees and use my code GOLD for a great deal: https://www.fast-growing-trees.comPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Apr 29, 2017 • 38min
U.S. GDP Cools As Eurozone Inflation Heats Up – Ep. 245:
Summary: The Europeans released their inflation numbers today. Year over year, inflation in the Eurozone are increasing at an average of 1.9%, which is Mario Draghi's objective. This is a 4-year high in CPI increase. How does Draghi justify more stimulus? In the U.S. growth is lower than forecast, while inflation is higher than forecast. That trend should be disturbing and it will continue.
* Today we got the government's first estimate of GDP growth for the first quarter of 2017
* If you remember, the Atlanta Fed has been steadily reducing its estimate for first quarter growth since February 1 of this year when it was estimating 3.4% GDP growth
* The last downward revision happened yesterday as a result of more weak economic data that came out yesterday
* Particularly on inventories
* The Atlanta Fed made its final revision to the estimate for Q1, at least the estimate that we got today
* And they were down to .2%!
* The consensus for Q1 had also come down; but not nearly as much as the Atlanta Fed
* Going into this morning, the consensus estimate was 1.1% GDP growth which would be a sharp reduction from the 2.1% GDP growth that the government claims we had last year
* And the range of forecasts went from a high of 1.7% to a low of .7%
* Nobody was quite as low as the Atlanta Fed
* We got the actual number this morning and it was .7%
* This is just the first estimate
* If you look at the economic data that has been coming out this year, the later the data comes, the worse it is
* So if that trend continues over the next month, as the government continues to get additional data from which to determine GDP
* There's a very good chance that they will revise this number down
* And maybe the Atlanta Fed's .2% will end up being correct or too optimistic
* I think there is still a good chance that by the time they get the final revision, which will not happen for a couple of months
* We could end up with a negative number for Q1 very easily
* I think the second quarter will be even weaker than the first quarter
* If we end up with a negative number for the first quarter there's a good chance we'll get a negative number in the second quarter
* Which means that by the time we get the negative number, if the second quarter is pretty much over, and it was also negative
* Then we will actually be in a recessionOur Sponsors:* Check out Avocado Green Mattress: https://avocadogreenmattress.com* Check out Boll & Branch: https://boilandbranch.com/SCHIFF* Check out Fast Growing Trees and use my code GOLD for a great deal: https://www.fast-growing-trees.comPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy