

Catalog & Cocktails: The Honest, No-BS Data Podcast
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Catalog and Cocktails is an honest, no-BS, non-sales-y conversation about data and analytics. This is your unfiltered chat about everything interesting in data and metadata management, DataOps, architecture, and beyond. Join Juan Sequeda and Tim Gasper to explore emerging topics and hear from visionary leaders across the data space.
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May 5, 2022 • 12min
S3E17 Takeaways with Francois Scharffe
What better place to talk nodes and edges than the Knowledge Graph Conference in New York City? In this episode, Tim and Juan are joined by conference chair, Francois Scharffe, to discuss how knowledge graphs are driving the automated enterprise.
This Takeaway episode will feature the summary of the upcoming episode.

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Apr 28, 2022 • 1h 6min
A layered approach to data meaning and measurement w/ Nick Handel
Data architecture is more layered than an onion. Data, metadata, access, transform, virtualization, visualization. And with the modern data stack, we’re now talking more about semantics and metrics layers.
This week, Tim and Juan are joined by Nick Handel, CEO of Transform, to talk all things semantics and metrics and why enterprises need to be thinking more about more about relationships.
This episode will also feature:
Clear definitions for semantic layer and metrics layer and the relationships between them
How to design your architecture to take advantage of semantics and metrics
Cake, dip, or sandwich. What is the best layered food?

Apr 28, 2022 • 15min
S3E16 Takeaways with Nick Handel
This week, Tim and Juan are joined by Nick Handel, CEO of Transform, to talk all things semantics and metrics and why enterprises need to be thinking more about more about relationships.
This Takeaway episode will feature the summary of the upcoming episode.

Apr 21, 2022 • 1h 4min
Everybody’s an imposter sometimes w/ Steve Perry
It’s not easy being a “data leader.” For one, you have to advocate for good data practices at your company. But you may also feel a strong desire to create your own brand on social media and at conferences. With the constant noise, posturing, and rigorous debate over every facet of data and analytics, this can be daunting. And sometimes, you feel like an imposter.
In this episode, Tim and Juan are joined by Steve Perry, Director of Data and Analytics at Genius Sports, to talk about the challenges that rising data leaders face, and how to block out the noise, and chart your path to success.
This episode will also feature:
How to get over your fear of saying something stupid in a public square
Success metrics for data leaders
What’s an awkward conversation you’ve walked into and quickly realized you don’t belong?

Apr 21, 2022 • 14min
S3E15 Takeaways with Steve Perry
In this episode, Tim and Juan are joined by Steve Perry, Director of Data and Analytics at Genius Sports, to talk about the challenges that rising data leaders face, and how to block out the noise, and chart your path to success.
This Takeaway episode will feature the summary of the upcoming episode.

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Apr 14, 2022 • 1h 5min
Why are we so bad at this modern data stack? w/ Chad Sanderson.
Imagine sitting down at a restaurant. Your food is already on the table, and the waiter hands you a menu of different dishes and silverware you can use to consume your meal. That’s a completely backwards experience, but it’s kind of how data architecture works today. We have our data in cheap storage, and then we purchase software that helps us consume it. Is this also wrong?
In this special episode, Tim and Juan are joined by Chad Sanderson, Head of Product, Data Platform at Convoy, to discuss whether or not we're incorrectly architecting our modern data stack.
This episode will also feature:
Lessons learned from Amazon and Facebook on building services before data
How to align your data team with business goals
Getting data architecture right often requires paying down legacy debt. What’s something you recently purchased that you maybe shouldn't have?

Apr 14, 2022 • 14min
S3E14 Takeaways with Chad Sanderson
In this special episode, Tim and Juan are joined by Chad Sanderson, Head of Product, Data Platform at Convoy, to discuss whether we’re incorrectly architecting our modern data stack.
This Takeaway episode will feature the summary of the upcoming episode.

Apr 7, 2022 • 59min
Can data policy drive data productivity? w/ Nong Li
Everyone - including us - wants to talk about how to get value from your data, but the truth is you can’t even get your data program off the ground without policy. Policies guide our decisions, our access controls, and even our data supply chains. But can policy make us more productive?
In this special episode, Tim and Juan are joined by Nong Li, CEO of Okera, to discuss why and how the data world should be thinking about policies.
This episode will also feature:
How to think about policy as it relates to GDPR, CCPA, and the right to be forgotten
The impact of the modern data stack on data policy
One of the lyrics In the 1990 Depeche Mode song, “Policy of Truth,” is “Never again Is what you swore, the time before.” What’s something you swore you’d never do again, but did it anyway?

Apr 7, 2022 • 13min
S3E13 Takeaways with Nong Li
Join Tim, Juan and special guest Nong Li, CEO of Okera, to discuss why and how the data world should be thinking about policies.
This Takeaway episode will feature the summary of the upcoming episode.

Mar 31, 2022 • 59min
The future of data is knowledge w/ Bob Muglia
Companies have most of the last decade in pursuit of data. We’ve waded through data lakes, explored data warehouses, routed through data hubs, and migrated our data to the cloud. But the end goal was never about the data. It was the pursuit of knowledge.
In this special episode, Tim and Juan are joined by a legend in our industry. Bob Muglia, the former CEO of Snowflake, will hang out and chat about the modern data stack, new approaches to governance, and the search for the enterprise holy grail… knowledge
This episode will also feature:
Demystifying the approaches between lakehouses and warehouses
Interesting developments in data governance technology
You were the first product manager for SQL Server. What’s your favorite movie SQL?