

Catalog & Cocktails: The Honest, No-BS Data Podcast
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Catalog and Cocktails is an honest, no-BS, non-sales-y conversation about data and analytics. This is your unfiltered chat about everything interesting in data and metadata management, DataOps, architecture, and beyond. Join Juan Sequeda and Tim Gasper to explore emerging topics and hear from visionary leaders across the data space.
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Mar 23, 2023 • 27min
Takeaways from Gartner D&A with Juan and Tim
Juan and Tim give their ultimate takeaways from Gartner in Orlando with a TON of guests.
Guests like:
Cindi Howson, Chief Data Strategy Officer at Thoughtspot, and Host of the Data Chief Podcast
Wayne Eckerson, President at Eckerson Group
Sean Anderson, Host of Sources & Destinations Podcast, and Head of Product Marketing at SelectStar
Benn Stancil, CTO + Founder @ Mode
Malcolm Hawker, Head of Data Strategy, Profisee
Malcolm Chisholm, President, Data Millennium
Kuldeep Sharma, Sr Manager Data Governance, Enterprise Data
Vassil Momtchev, CTO at Ontotext
Anthony Colichio, Senior Value Engineer, Reltio

Mar 16, 2023 • 44min
School of Building Data and Business Relationships w/ Kristin Schooley
In this episode of Catalog & Cocktails, Kristin Schooley from Learning Care Group sits down with Juan Sequeda and Tim Gasper to discuss the importance of teamwork and building relationships when it comes to scaling an analytics team within a large organization. The conversation covers a lot of ground, including the need to understand what reporting is needed and what story is being told, how to ensure scalability and compliance, as well as the importance of measuring usage and interpreting why certain data may not be utilized.
Key Takeaways:
[00:00 - 01:10] Introduction & Cheers
[01:15 - 03:11] What was your favorite class in school and why?
[03:16 - 06:34] A data team of five
[06:36 - 11:29] Partnering with business units and thinking about what is being learned
[11:43 - 14:07] Data as a product and lifecycle management
[14:22 - 15:13] Data literacy isn't necessarily the phrase we should be using
[15:15 - 18:13] Business analytics and understanding how to present data
[18:16 - 22:51] How organizations organize their data teams with checks and balances
[22:52 - 26:18] Business literacy, centralized teams, and scaling beyond a bottleneck
[26:20 - 30:31] Incentivizing for having documentation up to date
[30:40 - 34:57] Lightning round
[35:00 - 39:46] Tim & Juan's Takeaways
[39:46 - 43:06] Three questions

Mar 16, 2023 • 13min
Takeaways with Kristin Schooley

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Mar 9, 2023 • 1h 1min
Data Operations vs. Data Analytics
Are we doing data and analytics correctly? Self service, centralization vs decentralization, analytics vs operations… so many aspects that data teams need to consider.
Join this week’s episode of Catalog & Cocktails with hosts Juan and Tim as they speak with special guest Bethany Lyons to discuss how we should have a separation between data operations an data analytics
Key Takeaways:
[00:10 - 02:36] Meet Bethany Lyons, Chief Proctor Officer at KAWA Analytics
[02:40 - 04:23] What's your favorite board game?
[04:24 - 05:29] Encouraging self-service analytics is why Bethany thinks we are doing data analytics wrong
[05:30 - 08:04] How the self-service analytics problem started
[08:10 - 11:12] How business operators utilize data, and examples with Tableau deployment
[11:13 - 14:09] Tying business logic to an analytics tools and what could go wrong
[14:10 - 15:55] "Is this an analytics request or an operational request?"
[15:55 - 16:35] Changing parameters and asking the right system
[16:35 - 19:35] Evolving from self-service analytics to self-service governance programs
[19:39 - 21:14] Spreadsheet data, security, and incentives
[21:22 - 24:25] Self-service governance, shared accountability paired with great security
[24:26 - 25:50] Data stewards and ownership over business areas
[25:51 - 27:04] Sharing, auditing, and tracking
[27:12 - 28:50] Decentralizing accountability and mindsets when dealing with data
[28:50 - 32:40] How to make the switch to prioritizing decentralizing accountability over who writes SQL queries, and KAWA's role
[32:41 - 35:15] Centralized policy frameworks and definitions
[35:22 - 39:05] Thoughts on self-service operations and the centralization of analytics
[39:06 - 40:52] Critical business logic and Excel spreadsheets
[40:53 - 42:06] Centralizing business logic vs decentralizing business logic
[42:06 - 44:33] Avoiding business logic being owned by one individual, and looking at decision models
[44:33 - 45:45] Critical documents, and the idea of a Google Drive for data
[45:49 - 52:41] Lightning round
[52:42 - 57:26] Takeaways
[57:44 - 01:00:16] Three questions

Mar 9, 2023 • 15min
Takeaways with Bethany Lyons

Mar 2, 2023 • 9min
Catalog & Cocktails: Throwback Elixir
This week, we are having a throwback elixir with some very special surprise guests.
Tune in with hosts Juan and Tim to find out who.
Key Takeaways:
[00:26 - 01:51] Episode intro: Data Day and What keeps you up at night in data?
[02:04 - 02:54] Joe Reis, the economy and showing value
[02:59 - 03:30] Omar Khawaja: Anything that ends with board, data dashboards
[03:54 - 04:05] Vip Parmar: Jet lag & underutilized data
[04:16 - 04:51] Laura Ellis: Data governance and change management
[04:59 - 06:18] Mohammed Syed: Change management and data solutions
[06:22 - 06:49] Tim: Determining focus in a sea of technology opportunities
[06:50 - 07:58] Juan: Disconnect between executives and how data teams work with the business

Feb 23, 2023 • 1h 3min
Increasing adoption of data products, by design. w/ Brian T. O’Neill
Increasing adoption of data products, by design
Look no further than Brian T. O’Neill’s bio to tell you that’s what he does best.
Our special guest this week knows that low adoption of data products are enterprises biggest enemy. Not just in terms of quantity, but also quality of these investments. Why are teams so often creating technically right, effectively wrong data products? Why do people fail to adopt when it’s them post crucial part of becoming data driven organizations?
These burning questions have answers.
Join hosts Juan, Tim, and guest Brian T. O’Neill on this weeks episode of Catalog & Cocktails.
Key takeaways:
[00:06 - 03:30] Intro & Cheers
[03:33 - 04:54] What is your instrument of choice and what would your band name be?
[04:59 - 07:55] Honest no BS definition of a data product
[07:59 - 11:17] Alternative definitions of data as products
[11:18 - 14:11] Data products can be many things, and definitions are broad
[14:11 - 19:39] How human centered design interplays with defining data products
[19:47 - 25:17] Data therapists, knowledge scientists and engineers
[25:21 - 33:48] Where does the burden lay, and with whom
[33:49 - 38:35] Brian's perspective on data product management versus software product management
[38:38 - 43:59] How do you achieve good adoption?
[44:05 - 46:39] What is the best way people can start learning about human-centered design?
[46:42 - 47:20] Can dashboards be data products, and can machine learning be data products?
[47:32 - 49:45] Should companies be investing in data managers
[49:45 - 52:45] Value and adoption, should companies track data ROI
[52:58 - 58:20] Takeaways
[58:23 - 01:02:09] Three questions

Feb 23, 2023 • 19min
Takeaways with Brian T. O’Neill

Feb 16, 2023 • 1h 1min
Metadata, is this a graph problem? w/ Mohammad Syed from Capco
Metadata management has been a topic for a while now. Lately, the industry is pushing that metadata is a knowledge graph problem. What does metadata in a pre and post graph world look like?
Join Juan Sequeda and Tim Gasper with special guest Mohammad Syed, Head of Data Architecture & Engineering at Capco to chat about metadata and knowledge graphs.
Key Takeaways:
[00:06 - 02:40] Introduction & Cheers
[02:43 - 03:55] What's your go-to karaoke song?
[03:57 - 05:38] Metadata is a graph problem, yes or no?
[05:55 - 08:23] What would we call metadata in a pre-graph world?
[08:29 - 13:06] The biggest inflection point that has moved us collectively from a pre-graph world to a post-graph world
[13:06 - 15:10] Use cases for metadata in finance
[15:14 - 17:43] Different contexts in which you use data,
[17:46 - 19:33] Metadata historically as a means of documentation
[23:29 - 24:59] How we should be taking advantage of the graph structure
[25:01 - 29:18] Applying basic graph techniques and algorithms to identify data use cases
[28:11 - 30:30] The process of data governance and data protection
[30:33 - 32:47] Outcomes of metadata graphs
[33:04 - 35:19] Metadata management
[35:26 - 39:59] How to get started with metadata mapping
[40:05 - 43:30] Governance can't be living in an ivory tower
[43:57 - 49:52] Lightning round
[50:01 - 55:56] Takeaways
[55:58 - 59:44] Three Questions

Feb 16, 2023 • 17min