Energy Thinks with Tisha Schuller

In this solo episode, Tisha Schuller reflects on the role of leadership and strategy during times of uncertainty. For more, sign up for Tisha’s Both of These Things Are True newsletter.Mentioned in the episode:Tisha’s first book, Accidentally Adamant.Recent Both of These Things Are True newsletters, “The Myth Revealed by The Moment” and “Everything Changes. Here’s a Plan for That”.If you’re able to help those in need during these times of uncertainty, please consider participating with your local food bank.Special shoutout to Lindsey Slaughter who has stuck through all the ups and downs with Tisha and 10 years of Adamantine Energy.Subscribe here for Tisha’s weekly Both of These Things Are True email newsletter.Follow all things Adamantine Energy at www.energythinks.com.Thanks to Kayla Chieves who makes the Energy Thinks podcast possible.[Episode recorded on April 8, 2025] This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tishaschuller.substack.com

In this solo episode, Tisha Schuller reflects on the current state of the energy sector, the shifting political landscape, and how companies can navigate this ever-changing environment. For more, sign up for Tisha’s Both of These Things Are True newsletter.Mentioned in the episode:Both Of These Things Are True newsletters “Thank You for Smoking” and “Climate Warrior or Climate Curious”.Subscribe here for Tisha’s weekly Both of These Things Are True email newsletter.Follow all things Adamantine Energy at www.energythinks.com.Thanks to Kayla Chieves who makes the Energy Thinks podcast possible.[Episode recorded on March 15, 2025] This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tishaschuller.substack.com

In this solo episode, Tisha Schuller explores the best way you can take advantage of the current political chaos: with steady and steadfast leadership. For more, sign up for Tisha’s Both of These Things Are True newsletter.Mentioned in the episode:Both Of These Things Are True newsletters “Thank You for Smoking” and “Climate Warrior or Climate Curious”.Subscribe here for Tisha’s weekly Both of These Things Are True email newsletter.Follow all things Adamantine Energy at www.energythinks.com.Thanks to Kayla Chieves who makes the Energy Thinks podcast possible.[Episode recorded on February 26, 2025] This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tishaschuller.substack.com

Tisha Schuller welcomes Lorna Luebbe, general counsel, senior vice president, and chief sustainability officer for Puget Sound Energy to the Energy Thinks podcast.Lorna received a bachelor’s degree in geology and economics from Cornell University and received her law degree from Lewis & Clark. She also completed the Executive Management Program from the University of Washington.For 23 years Lorna has worked for Puget Sound Energy (PSE). Her roles have included senior corporate counsel, assistant general counsel, director of environmental services, deputy general counsel, and vice president of sustainability.She is responsible for PSE’s sustainability efforts and progress toward PSE’s aspirational Beyond Net Zero Carbon goal. Lorna also handles complex litigation and other legal issues on behalf of PSE.Lorna is located in Seattle, Washington and tries to keep up with her three very active teenagers in her free time.Watch the video on YouTube to see Tisha and Lorna discuss The Moment.Subscribe here for Tisha’s weekly Both of These Things Are True email newsletter.Follow all things Adamantine Energy at www.energythinks.com.Thanks to Kayla Chieves who makes the Energy Thinks podcast possible.[Interview recorded on February 12, 2024] This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tishaschuller.substack.com

Tisha Schuller welcomes Arnab Datta, managing director of policy implementation at Employ America and director of infrastructure policy at the Institute for Progress (IFP), to the Energy Thinks podcast.Arnab brought his expertise in policy and law to Employ America starting in 2020 and joined IFP in 2023. Prior to this, he served as a legislative fellow for Senator Michael Bennet (D-CO), where he focused on housing policy. He also served as a law clerk with the Senate Judiciary Committee. Arnab has worked as both a teacher and a school leader in Bombay, India.He received a J.D. from the George Washington University Law School where he was Articles Editor on the George Washington Law Review and also received a M.S. in Foreign Service from Georgetown University.Mentioned in the episode:Arnab’s New York Times opinion piece published December 8, 2024: Climate Activists Need to Radically Change Their Approach Under Trump.Tisha’s Both of These Things Are True newsletters, Practical Environmentalism Is Inevitable and The 3 T’s of Energy Realism.Watch the video on YouTube to see Tisha and Arnab discuss The Moment.Subscribe here for Tisha’s weekly Both of These Things Are True email newsletter.Follow all things Adamantine Energy at www.energythinks.com.Thanks to Kayla Chieves who makes the Energy Thinks podcast possible.[Interview recorded on January 23, 2024] This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tishaschuller.substack.com

Tisha Schuller welcomes Rebecca Keller-Friedman, director at Adamantine Energy, to the Energy Thinks podcast. In her role, Becca guides clients through the nuanced intersection of climate, ESG, disruptive technology and geopolitics to mitigate the unique risks facing each oil and gas company. Tisha and Becca dive into the complex landscape of the energy transition, discussing how the forces of The Moment can present as either headwinds or tailwinds to decarbonization.Becca received a bachelor’s degree in biochemistry from Washington University in St. Louis and a PhD in organic chemistry from Colorado State University. Becca currently resides in the Dallas, TX metro area.Mentioned in the episode:The Sarah Troise study, Public Attitudes Towards Electricity Decarbonization and Meeting 2035 Goals.The Tufts study, The Youth Vote in 2024.Tisha’s Both of These Things Are True newsletter published on November 7, 2024: Is Power Demand a Force? Or a Directional Driver?Watch the video on YouTube to see Tisha and Becca discuss The Moment, and to sneak a peak at Becca’s special guest, Cinnamon.Subscribe here for Tisha’s weekly Both of These Things Are True email newsletter.Follow all things Adamantine Energy at www.energythinks.com.Thanks to Kayla Chieves who makes the Energy Thinks podcast possible. And special thanks to Morgan Gass and Maanav Jhatakia for all their hard work researching The Moment.[Interview recorded on January 16, 2025] This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tishaschuller.substack.com

In this solo episode, Tisha Schuller explores a core controversy at the heart of how oil and gas leaders discuss energy and climate: truth bomb or diplomatic engagement? How energy leaders respond will inform the opportunities ahead. For more, sign up for Tisha’s Both of These Things Are True newsletter.Mentioned in the episode:Both Of These Things Are True newsletters Three Ts of Energy Realism and Practical Environmentalism Is Inevitable.Matthew Yglesias’ 2024 year-ending appearance on Energy Thinks: (Secret?!) Practical Environmentalism with Matthew Yglesias, and his Substack: Slow Boring, subscribe to his newsletter here.The Bloomberg Podcast Zero: The Climate Race: What is the Exxon CEO doing on a climate podcast?Climate Activists Need to Radically Change Their Approach Under Trump by Arnab DattaTrump’s Choice to Run Energy Says Fossil Fuels Are Virtuous by Lisa FriedmanThe response to Lisa’s NYT article: Can we please have a nuanced discussion of development and fossil fuels? by Todd Moss.Subscribe here for Tisha’s weekly Both of These Things Are True email newsletter.Follow all things Adamantine Energy at www.energythinks.com.Thanks to Kayla Chieves who makes the Energy Thinks podcast possible.[Episode recorded on December 17, 2024] This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tishaschuller.substack.com

Tisha Schuller welcomes Matthew Yglesias, journalist and writer at Slow Boring, to the Energy Thinks podcast. Matt is a veteran internet content creator with an expertise in American politics and public policy. He is also a columnist for political and policy opinion at Bloomberg and the author of several books including One Billion Americans: The Case for Thinking Bigger.Slow Boring is a daily newsletter about American politics and public policy that consistently ranks on Substack’s politics top ten list. He also co-hosts Grid’s podcast, Bad Takes. Matt has published articles for publications such as The American Prospect, The Atlantic, Slate, and Vox, which he co-founded and hosted The Weeds podcast. Matt received a bachelor’s degree from Harvard University and currently resides in Washington, DC. Mentioned in the episode:Matt’s compelling piece published November 12, 2024: A Common Sense Democrat manifesto.Matt’s compelling piece published December 2, 2024: We need reality-based energy policy.Tisha’s Both of These Things Are True newsletter published on November 21, 2024: Practical Environmentalism Is Inevitable.Energy for Growth Hub, a global think tank advancing data-driven solutions to end energy poverty and build a high-energy climate-resilient future for everyone. Watch the video on YouTube to see Tisha and Matt discuss The Moment.Subscribe here for Tisha’s weekly Both of These Things Are True email newsletter.Follow all things Adamantine Energy at www.energythinks.com.Thanks to Kayla Chieves who makes the Energy Thinks podcast possible. [Interview recorded on December 4, 2024] This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tishaschuller.substack.com

In this solo episode, Tisha Schuller dives into two big ideas that are shaping the future of energy and the role of the oil and gas industry in a rapidly evolving world. Tisha explores what hasn't changed about energy, climate, and decarbonization, and what lessons industry can learn from the progressive left's journey, and how it relates to the energy sector. These topics and more will be explored in greater detail in upcoming Both of These Things Are True newsletters.Mentioned in the episode:A special thank you to Roger Pielke for mentioning the Both of These Things Are True newsletter in his Honest Broker Substack, as well as for his continued work in the industry.Subscribe here for Tisha’s weekly Both of These Things Are True email newsletter.Follow all things Adamantine Energy at www.energythinks.com.Thanks to Kayla Chieves who makes the Energy Thinks podcast possible. [Interview recorded on November 24, 2024] This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tishaschuller.substack.com

Tisha Schuller welcomes Nile Garritson, portfolio manager at CalSTRS, to the Energy Thinks podcast. Tisha and Nile met when they co-spoke on “The Evolution of ESG” panel at the Barclay’s Energy CEO conference in September 2024. CalSTRS is the California State Teachers' Retirement System. Founded in 1913, CalSTRS manages one of the largest pension funds in the U.S., serving over 1 million members, including teachers and education staff across California. Nile has a long track record investing in the energy industry, with experience in fundamental research and a focus on low-carbon and net-zero solutions. Nile received a bachelor’s degree and an MBA from the University of Southern California. Watch the video on YouTube to see Tisha and Nile discuss The Moment.Subscribe here for Tisha’s weekly Both of These Things Are True email newsletter.Follow all things Adamantine Energy at www.energythinks.com.Thanks to Kayla Chieves who makes the Energy Thinks podcast possible. [Interview recorded on October 31, 2024] This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tishaschuller.substack.com