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Learn Speak Teach Episode #123 with Cameron Herold.When is the right time to hire a COO for your company?Ben Albert sits down with the legendary Cameron Herold, a business growth guru known for his expertise in building high-performance company cultures and the founder of COO Alliance. Cameron unpacks what makes the world’s best workplaces tick, revealing how “cult-like” cultures, when built right, can drive team alignment, energy, and extraordinary results.Cameron shares advice for businesses at every stage from solopreneurs just getting started to $50 million enterprises ready to scale. He also walks through practical hiring strategies, explains when to bring on that crucial second-in-command, and shares the morning routines that keep leaders at their peak.Grab your notebook and pen, you’ll want to take notes.During this episode, you will learn about:[01:25] How to start a cult-like company culture[02:59] Companies that Cameron has helped build culture in[04:25] Understanding the four corners of the jigsaw puzzle[04:57] The essence of core values[11:30] The importance of having clear vision statements[14:31] What it looks like when a company gets its vision wrong[17:58] How to find the best employees[19:11] The cost of a failed hire[21:44] When is the right time to hire a COO?[23:59] Cameron’s book, Second in Command[25:37] When businesses decide to bring in a COO[27:42] Hiring a COO for a $1 million company[28:37] Hiring a COO for a $50 million company[29:23] How to handle a $50 million company[30:11] How to access Cameron’s mentorshipLeadership program: https://investinyourleaders.com/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVxhPgUCzGQQw0XuT9EeAFgPodcast: https://cooalliance.com/podcasts/[31:23] Cameron’s miracle morning[34:20] Cameron’s nomadic lifestyleKey Takeaways: • The best companies to work for on the planet have a vivid vision of what their company looks like, acts like, and feels like in the future and everybody can see what they're building. ~ Cameron Herold [04:05]• “My core purpose is to help entrepreneurs make their visions come true.” ~ Cameron Herold [06:55]• A vivid vision is a four- or five-page description of what your company looks like, acts like, and feels like three years in the future. ~ Cameron Herold [11:56]• “A lot of people will overpay to have average people.” ~ Cameron Herold [17:59]• If a COO was coming into your company, you wouldn’t be delegating anything to them. They would be telling you what needs to happen. ~ Cameron Herold [22:54]• The best employees are usually working somewhere, knocking the cover off the ball, working for a great company. Your job is to entice them into your company culture. ~ Cameron Herold [24:20]• The first key hire for every entrepreneur is to get an executive assistant or a fractional EA to take a bunch of the admin work off your plate freeing you up to do the stuff you’re really good at and love doing. ~ Cameron Herold [25:51]• “Whatever is in your vivid vision that you don’t have the time, energy, or skills to execute, hire someone who does, and you win.” ~ Cameron Herold [28:57]• “There’s not a single problem that exists inside your company that writing a check can’t solve.” ~ Cameron Herold [29:32]People Mentioned and Other Resources:1. Miracle Morning for Entrepreneurs: https://www.amazon.com/Miracle-Morning-Entrepreneurs-Elevate-BUSINESS/dp/19425891232. Double Double: https://www.amazon.com/Double-Your-Revenue-Profit-Years/dp/16083209953. A Little Bit Culty Podcast: https://alittlebitculty.com/ Keep In Touch with Cameron Herold:Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@secondincommandpodcast  YouTube: https://cameronherold.com/watch-cameron/   COO Alliance Website: https://cooalliance.com/    Personal Website: https://cameronherold.com/   —

Freestyle Rap Track Inspired By Social Media Week Lima 2025Theme= MerakiFreestyle Rap written using my custom Rap Lyric Songwriter GPT: https://chatgpt.com/g/g-68117a0e4f648191b790ed5006b62ac9-rap-lyric-songwriter+ the contents of this article by Now Marketing Group: https://blog.nowmarketinggroup.com/top-takeaways-from-social-media-week-lima-2025+ https://suno.com/It is a reflection on the top insights we all had at Social Media Week Lima 2025 - https://sociallima.com/I HOPE TO SEE YOU IN 2026 AND BEYOND!-----Follow Balbert…Facebook www.facebook.com/realbusinessconnectionsInstagram: www.instagram.com/realbenalbert/LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/realbenalbertWebsite: https://www.realbusinessconnections.com/–Real Business Connections is made possible by www://balbertmarketing.com/----Lyrics: “Meraki in Motion: Social Media Week Lima 2025”Jessika Suter sparked it — center stage, Heart in her voice, care on the page. "Serve before you sell, connections not clout. Delight, deliver, repeat — that's what it's about."Shawn Quintero brought abundance in stride, “Retrain the brain,” he said, “let expansion be your guide.”Ben Albert followed — different by design, “What makes you different, not just better — refine. There’s no key to success, it’s a combination lock. Be different and better, don’t wait for the clock. Who are your mentors? Your peers? Your crowd? What do they value? Speak it out loud. Be the center of gravity — pull them in close, With value that spreads from the thing you love most.”Mark and Jerry Suter spoke truth from the land, “Let the produce talk, let care guide your hand.”Tracy Phillips gave video its trust, “Testimonial truth is emotionally just.”Jamie Samples, with Makayla Boyd and Jaiden Jonston, Said: “Stick to who you are — that’s the real function.”Austin Armstrong dropped reels on demand, “Hook ‘em with value — take your stand.”Aleasha Bahr flipped the sales play, “Fit over force — that’s how we pay.”Michael Allison told us: break the mold, “Show up raw — let your values unfold.”Sarah Kelsey handwrote her brand, A gem built on gratitude, perfectly planned.Jena Stearns said: “Post with intent. Authenticity’s not just content — it’s how time’s spent.”Roger Wakefield on YouTube’s grind, “Fix what’s broke — leave no story behind.”Katie Brinkley voiced passion through pod, “Repurpose, reach, and speak what’s odd.”Jeff Howell brought the soul-vs-AI frame, “Stay human — your voice owns the name.”Marc Bowker gave willpower the mic, “Train your focus — like reps on a bike.”Jen Watson stacked tools with flair, “Capsho, Syllaby — scale everywhere.”Judi Fox: “First frame, grab the eye — Short-form scroll is how we fly.”Tony Does Ads said: “Raw sells best, Meta loves messy — forget the rest.”George Whitcher, commas gone, made it plain: “AI don’t create — it just mimics the brain.”Andy Pondillo dropped LinkedIn heat, “Tell your story — keep the ad discrete.”Keenya Kelly came TikTok strong, “Fifteen seconds — start with motion, not long.”Jeremy Vest said: “Confusion kills, Clarity rides — that’s where purpose fulfills.”Michael King closed with a truth that stuck: “Every ‘yes’ is a ‘no’ to what you truly trust.”We gathered in Lima — whole and alive, Meraki in motion, speakers in drive. Each voice a note, each moment a vibe — Meraki alive at Social Media Week Lima 2025.

Learn Speak Teach Episode #122 with Gloria Chou.Have your eyes been on a podcast you'd love to be featured on, but you're not sure how to make it happen? In this episode, PR expert Gloria Chou shares exactly how to stop sending fluffy pitches and start crafting ones that get a YES.Gloria introduces her CPR pitching framework, a method built on real world experience and thousands of conversations, aiming to help founders and small business owners craft pitches that resonate. From the importance of specificity and relevance, to why founders should sign off on their own pitches, this conversation is packed with actionable insights and some hard truths for anyone looking to get featured on podcasts or in the media.Let’s tap into some of Gloria’s  wisdom.During this episode, you will learn about:[02:07] Common pitch template[03:29] Ingredients for a good pitch[05:28] Email etiquette for pitching[06:42] How to send relevant pitches[07:07] Understanding Gloria’s CPR method[11:27] How to determine your area of genius[14:01] Dissecting a pitch[16:44] Send a screenshot[20:59] Gloria’s podcasthttps://www.gloriachoupr.com/podcast [22:48] Connect with Gloria and learn how to land a featureWebsite: https://www.gloriachoupr.com/ Signup for Gloria’s Masterclass: https://learn.gloriachoupr.com/masterclassbygloria Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gloriachoupr LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/gloria-chou-pr/ [23:49] How to do better when starting out in PR[24:58] How to choose a podcast to feature on[26:45] Grab free resources from GloriaSignup for Gloria’s Masterclass: https://learn.gloriachoupr.com/masterclassbygloria Message “Ben” on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gloriachoupr Key Takeaways:  • “We're the gatekeepers of our audience's ears, so we need to know that it's about them and not about us.” ~Gloria Chou [07:11]• If you're thinking of hiring a company to do pitching for you, chances are they're not going to do as good of a job as you can do for yourself. ~  Gloria Chou [16:28]• “There’s no time like the present.” ~ Gloria Chou [24:18]• “The riches are in the niches.” ~ Gloria Chou [25:14]“I think we need to be comfortable with NO because otherwise, we're not going to get to YES.” ~ Gloria [24:59]Keep In Touch with Gloria Chou:Website: https://www.gloriachoupr.com/ Signup for Gloria’s Masterclass: https://learn.gloriachoupr.com/masterclassbygloria Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gloriachoupr LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/gloria-chou-pr/  —Follow Balbert…Facebook: www.facebook.com/realbusinessconnectionsInstagram: www.instagram.com/realbenalbert/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/realbenalbert/Website:  https://www.realbusinessconnections.com/ –LST is made possible by www://balbertmarketing.com/

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Learn Speak Teach Episode #121 with Devin Ray ButlerOriginally from Michigan, Devin Ray Butler moved to Arizona without a network. In just a few years, he launched the state’s fastest growing entrepreneurial community, Arizona Entrepreneurs, which has since expanded to other states. Devin is also the founder of Community Launch, an all-in-one platform designed to entrepreneurs manage and grow their communities. In this episode, he sits down with Ben Albert to share his insights on how to launch a meaningful community.In this episode, Devin shares his journey in growing Arizona Entrepreneurs into what it is today. He also offers practical tips for beginners and seasoned community builders alike.Timestamp:[01:22] How Devin Butler took over Arizona[04:27] What makes Arizona attractive?[05:50] The start of Arizona Entrepreneurs[12:18] Evolution of Arizona Entrepreneurs[18:52] How to create a community[20:27] Community launch[24:13] Revolutionizing GrowGetters ONLY[28:12] Basics of community building[31:56] The concept of pre-selling[33:59] Hosting events[37:23] Integration assignment:1.Attend in-person events and immerse yourself in a community2.Identify your niche and the people you want to serve3.Start an online school, fill it with your ideal clients, and define what content will be free versus paid.[41:37] Grab a free ticket[42:29] Connect with Devin Ray ButlerWebsite: https://arizonaentrepreneurs.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/devinraybutler/ Community Launch: https://www.instagram.com/communitylaunch/  Arizona Entrepreneurs: https://www.instagram.com/arizonaentrepreneurs/ Key Takeaways: • People want accountability and support. They want to have access to the creator and the person they’re learning from, live on calls.~ Devin Butler [19:05]• “I believe the best way to scale any kind of info product offer is by giving away a portion of it for free."~ Devin Butler [22:34]• Look at what’s working, what people are making money from online, and figure out how you can do it better by adding your unique twist.~ Devin Butler [29:26]• Sometimes, especially in the info space, creating something that’s never been done before can be great, but it can also be risky because the market might not want it.~ Devin Butler [29:42]• When it comes to launching a product or service, I’m a big advocate of just putting it out there and seeing what kind of feedback you get, rather than spending 35 hours developing a course no one has validated yet.~ Devin Butler [31:09]• "If you presell something, it lights a fire under you, you figure it out and build the thing."~ Devin Butler [32:04]Keep In Touch with Devin Ray Butler:Website: https://arizonaentrepreneurs.com/   Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/devinraybutler/   Community Launch: https://www.instagram.com/communitylaunch/   Arizona Entrepreneurs: https://www.instagram.com/arizonaentrepreneurs/ —Follow Balbert…Facebook: www.facebook.com/realbusinessconnectionsInstagram: www.instagram.com/realbenalbert/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/realbenalbert/Website:  https://www.realbusinessconnections.com/ –LST is made possible by www://balbertmarketing.com/

Rochester Business Connections episode #150 with Doug Johnston.Ideas have the power to shape our minds, transform our relationships, and strengthen our organizations. They create pathways to new opportunities and break down even the most challenging and persistent obstacles in our way.In this thought-provoking episode, Ben Albert speaks with Doug Johnston, a speaker, facilitator, and author of Thriving in Conflict, Exponential Leadership, and ProBits. Doug dives into insights from his book ProBits, including thought-provoking concepts like “Stop Communicating,” “Time Isn’t Money,” and “Forget About Passion.”Doug also offers tips for improving social skills and managing electronic communication effectively. Drawing from his book Thriving in Conflict, he explores the true meaning of conflict and provides strategies for handling it both reactively and proactively.During this episode, you will learn about:[00:57] ‘Stop communicating’[02:47] Socializing tips[06:57] Electronic communication[10:49] Curiosity Quotient (CQ)[12:55] ProBits: https://theprobits.com/the-probits/[15:53] Time Isn’t Money[21:23] Forget About Passion[25:31] Conflict[30:46] Conflict management[37:13] Integration assignment[46:03] Get in touch with Doug Johnston• Website: https://impact4results.com/[47:35] Play politicsKey Takeaways:  • “When we are in change, we under-communicate by a factor of 10.” ~John Kotter [01:50]• We cannot do two cognitive activities at the same time. ~Doug Johnston [09:24]• Time is more valuable than money because while you can always make more money, you can never make more time. ~Doug Johnston [16:02]• Successful people aren’t passionate; they’re obsessive. ~Doug Johnston [21:46]• Conflict is the gap between what we expect and what we experience. ~Doug Johnston [26:34]• “Ask first, listen second, speak last.” ~Doug Johnston [40:28]• “A mind, once stretched, will not return to its original form.” ~Ralph Waldo Emerson [46:36]•  “Politics is the vehicle we created to negotiate our wants and needs when we went from being nomads to living in communities.” ~Aristotle [47:58]People Mentioned and Other Resources:1. Warren Buffett2. Your Brain at Work: https://bit.ly/4dC0KWy3. Thriving in Conflict: https://bit.ly/44OOsb14. Formula 1: Drive to SurviveKeep In Touch with Doug Johnston:Website: https://impact4results.com/ProBits: https://theprobits.com/the-probits/Books: https://impact4results.com/the-books/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/doug-johnston-4729341/—Follow Balbert…Facebook: www.facebook.com/realbusinessconnectionsInstagram: www.instagram.com/realbenalbert/LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/balbertmarktingWebsite:  https://www.realbusinessconnections.com/–RBC is made possible by www://balbertmarketing.com/

Learn Speak Teach Episode #120 with Charley Johnson.To be a Chief Consciousness Officer, you need to remain neutral in all situations. But how possible is it to truly stay neutral?Charley Johnson, the world’s first Chief Consciousness Officer, joins Ben Albert to spill the beans. In this in-depth conversation, they unpack what consciousness really is, how it's understood by different people, its role in organizations, how awareness of consciousness can transform your life, and the unique responsibilities of a Chief Consciousness Officer.Listen and learn.During this episode, you will learn about:[01:16] Defining the Chief Consciousness Officer[03:13] Consciousness in organizations[05:22] Can consciousness change?[09:05] Charley’s book: Truth Has No Sides[10:36] The power of unlearning[13:31] Making the world better[21:29] The role of a consciousness officer in an organization[26:53] AI and consciousness[31:48] Benefits of consciousness[34:28] Is consciousness utopia?[37:03] A good judge[41:36] COO versus CCO[46:20] Falling of Ben’s sign[47:48] Connect with Charley Johnson[48:38] Charley’s next moveKey Takeaways: • "Business was taken over by technology. Humanity is now going to be taken over by consciousness." ~ Charley Johnson [01:43]• "Consciousness has been within business already. We just haven't been paying attention to it. Now, we're becoming aware of it." ~ Charley Johnson [02:01]• "The same mind that creates a problem can't solve it. We must go to the source." ~ Charley Johnson [02:33]• We as humans don't understand how much we negate and cut people off and don't open ourselves up because of the division we've created. ~ Charley Johnson [24:34]• "Knowledge is structured in consciousness." ~ Charley Johnson [27:30]• "The benefit of consciousness is wiping the grease away from the windshield of humanity." ~ Charley Johnson [32:32]• "We as humans are full of bias and conditioning." ~ Charley Johnson [38:24]• "We all have our own ability to blow as much wind into our sail as we humanly possibly can." ~ Charley Johnson [44:32]Keep In Touch with Charley Johnson:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charley-johnson-7202ba205/   —Follow Balbert…Facebook: www.facebook.com/realbusinessconnectionsInstagram: www.instagram.com/realbenalbert/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/realbenalbert/Website:  https://www.realbusinessconnections.com/ –LST is made possible by www://balbertmarketing.com/

Learn Speak Teach Episode #119 with Kate Eckman.True fulfillment doesn’t come from external achievements or validation but from the alignment of mind, body, and spirit. A fulfilling life begins with self-awareness. By investing in our well-being and addressing challenges like trauma, we unlock the potential for greater success and a more profound sense of purpose that guides every aspect of our lives.This episode features Kate Eckman, creator and host of the Rawish with Kate Eckman podcast and author of The Full Spirit Workout. Kate discusses the concept of self-crisis, explaining what happens when we silence our struggles and avoid confronting them. She also provides practical insights on how to navigate and heal from trauma, both personally and when supporting others.As the episode unfolds, Kate explores the power of owning our decisions, free from outside pressures. She also emphasizes how investing in personal growth and well-being can lead to greater success and fulfillment in life and business.Finally, Kate reflects on some of the most meaningful conversations she’s had with renowned figures, offering a glimpse into the wisdom that has shaped her own journey.During this episode, you will learn about:[01:34] What people don’t talk about[06:40] Self-crisis[14:24] Trauma[29:57] Owning your decisions [36:15] Investing in yourself[41:36] Most meaningful conversations[44:37] Connect with Kate Eckman • Podcast: https://www.kateeckman.tv/podcast                : https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rawish-with-kate-eckman/id1766505668Key Takeaways:  • If we have trouble connecting emotionally with someone, it’s because we haven’t emotionally connected with ourselves. ~Kate Eckman [17:57] • “All of humanity’s problems stem from man’s inability to sit quietly in a room alone.” ~Blaise Pascal [20:30] • No one in the audience is ever going to have more fun than you are having on stage. ~Kate Eckman [22:30]• “No one is ever going to love your business more than you do.” ~Kate Eckman [22:38]• “You can’t collect unless you invest.” ~Kate Eckman [36:15]• We store all our trauma in our bodies. ~Kate Eckman [38:16]• “If you can change yourself, you can change the world.” ~Kate Eckman [49:56]People Mentioned and Other Resources:1. Kendrick Lamar2. Barack Obama3. Oprah WinfreyKeep In Touch with Kate Eckman:Website: https://www.kateeckman.tv/Twitter: https://twitter.com/kateeckmanLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kateeckman/Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/kateeckman/\YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@KateEckmanTVInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/kateeckman/Podcast: https://www.kateeckman.tv/podcast             : https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rawish-with-kate-eckman/id1766505668 •  Check out The Full Spirit Workout by Kate Eckman: https://bit.ly/3S2boMq—Follow Balbert…Facebook: www.facebook.com/realbusinessconnectionsInstagram: www.instagram.com/realbenalbert/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/realbenalbert/Website:  https://www.realbusinessconnections.com/ –LST is made possible by www://balbertmarketing.com/

Learn Speak Teach Episode #118 with John David Mann.Many authors have difficulty finding the key factor that will make their work stand out. As a result, they often end up with books that fail to make the desired impact on readers. So, what’s the secret behind every successful book?Today, John David Mann sheds light on the key factors that contribute to a book’s success. John is an award-winning author and writing coach, best known for co-authoring the New York Times bestseller The Go-Giver. With over 40 books to his name, he has established himself as a powerful voice in the writing community.In the episode, John discusses the elements that made The Go-Giver irresistible to readers. Additionally, he introduces his online course Book Concepts That Sell, designed to provide writers with practical advice and insightful strategies to improve their writing.John also dives into the limitations of AI in writing, emphasizing its inability to capture true creativity and originality. Moreover, he shares insights on the power of partnerships in writing, highlighting the key red flags and green lights to watch for when collaborating with other authors.Finally, John reveals his “secret sauce” for writing success and the motivation that drives his passion for writing. Let’s tap into some of his wisdom.During this episode, you will learn about:[01:49] Common trait of successful books[07:21] The Go-Giver: https://johndavidmann.com/books/the-go-giver/[15:00] Current focus[16:10] AI limitations [20:03] Online course: https://bookconceptmagic.com/[24:06] Partnership with other authors[28:31] Red flags & green lights[33:00] John’s secret sauce[43:06] Newsletter: https://johndavidmann.com/newsletter/[46:48] Writing Motivation[47:52] Connect with John David Mann• Website: https://johndavidmann.com/Key Takeaways:  • Every successful book has a magnetically compelling and irresistible core concept. ~John David Mann [01:49]• “The greatest truths are found in paradox.” ~John David Mann [10:10]• An author should never do their cover. ~John David Mann [18:58]• A successful partnership requires mutual respect for each person’s area of expertise. ~John David Mann [30:46]• “Empathy is the number one skill set for an effective writer.” ~John David Mann [35:15]• “No tears in the writer, no tears in the reader. No surprise in the writer, no surprise in the reader.” ~Robert Frost [39:58]• “Every writer is the first reader of their book.” ~John David Mann [40:54]• “Everyone is necessarily the hero of his own life story.” ~John Barth [43:52]People Mentioned and Other Resources:1. The Go-Giver2. The Latte Factor 3. Cold Fear4. The Automatic Millionaire5. Smart Women Finish Rich6. The Alchemist7. Man’s Search for Meaning8. How to Write Good: https://johndavidmann.com/2021/03/02/how-to-write-good/Keep In Touch with John David Mann:Website: https://johndavidmann.com/X: https://twitter.com/JohnDavidMannLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johndavidmann/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/johndavidmannInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/johndavidmann/ Writing workshop: https://bookconceptmagic.com/Newsletter: https://johndavidmann.com/newsletter/David Mann’s books: https://johndavidmann.com/books/How to Write Good: https://johndavidmann.com/2021/03/02/how-to-write-good/—Follow Balbert…Facebook: www.facebook.com/realbusinessconnectionsInstagram: www.instagram.com/realbenalbert/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/realbenalbert/Website:  https://www.realbusinessconnections.com/ –LST is made possible by www://balbertmarketing.com/

Ben’s Bites #14.In this special episode of Ben Bites, Ben shares his experience at the Growth Now Summit 2025. However, instead of simply recapping the event, he turned the entire experience into an amazing rap album that captures the summit’s energy, insights, and messages in a powerful and creative way.Ben also breaks down how he made it happen, from the tools he used to the creative process behind converting spoken content into songs. If you love creative twists, you’ll definitely enjoy this one.Listen to the full album here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL65IVoRZP4EDxFjXVOnJnWc92ttHcFBUF Key Highlights From The Episode:[01:08] Growth Now Summit 2025[02:40] Jamie Hess: Your Brand Is You[07:24] Panel 1: Out Of The Box [11:15] Turning a talk into a song[14:50] Justin Kavanaugh : Live Your Telos [18:37] Mike Kim: Heartwork[23:18] Justin Schenck: What’s Your Mouse[27:10] Liz Wilcox: Be Liz[31:53] Brian Bogert: Awareness & Intention[36:08] Panel 2: The Real One’s[39:09] Panel 3: Don’t StopGolden Nuggets:• It’s not where you are but who you are. Be intentional, and you’ll go far. ~Jamie Hess [03:03] • You can only create the life you want by being intentional every day. [08:51] • The gap between where you are and where you want to be isn’t wide if you move today. ~Coach Kav [15:20] • The world doesn’t hand you purpose on a plate; you have to dig deep to find it. ~Justin Schenck [24:40] • “AI is not here to lead; it’s here to reflect.” ~Brian Bogert [32:35] Listen on…Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6GIUXbsHXx0OSgPFED1sg8Itunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/real-business-connections/id1537115928-Follow me...Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/realbusinessconnectionsInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/realbenalbertLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/realbenalbert/-OUR WEBSITE: www.realbusinessconnections.com