
The Art Engager
The Art Engager Podcast with Claire Bown is your go-to resource for creating engaging experiences in museums and cultural spaces. Explore practices that deepen connections with art, objects, people and ideas. Learn techniques to spark curiosity, foster dialogue, and transform how you engage with your audience. Each episode offers practical insights to enhance your skills and bring your museum experiences to life.
Latest episodes

Apr 18, 2024 • 31min
Creating informal engagement with museum visitor teams
In this episode, we take a closer look at museum visitor teams with Dickon Moore, Visitor Experience Manager at Wellcome Collection in London. Discover how these teams master the art of informal engagement, creating meaningful interactions that enhance visitors' museum experiences.Key Points:Understanding the importance of informal engagement in fostering meaningful interactions.How the role of visitor teams has changed over time from a more security-focused role to their current role as facilitators of engagement.Insights into the strategies and techniques employed by museum visitor teams, for informal, spontaneous interactions and structured engagements.Why visitor teams are uniquely placed to engage with museum visitorsHow museum visitor teams expertly navigate interactions with strangers, based on curiosity and open questioning.Learn about the three areas of impact: how visitors might think differently, feel differently, or act differently after engaging with museum content or staff.Discover how museum visitor teams are supported during challenging interactions, including skills development, duty manager support, de-escalation techniques, and reflective practice sessions.Episode 127 LinksWellcome Collection https://wellcomecollection.org/Dickon Moore on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/dickonmooreTranscript available here: The Art Engager Links:Sign up for my Curated newsletter - a fortnightly dose of cultural inspirationJoin the Slow Looking Club CommunitySupport the show here https://www.buymeacoffee.com/clairebownDownload my free resources: How to look at art (slowly)- 30+ different ways to look at art or objects in the museumSlow Art Guide - six simple steps to guide you through the process of slow lookingUltimate Thinking Routine List - 120 thinking routines in one place If you have any suggestions, questions or feedback, get in touch with the show!

Apr 11, 2024 • 35min
Slow looking at the Van Gogh Museum
Today, in a special BONUS episode for Slow Art Day, I’m talking to Harma van Uffelen. Harma works as a curator of education for the Van Gogh Museum where they have just created a brand new slow looking programme and a slow looking experience for the Matthew Wong exhibition. Listen in to hear:How the programme started and why they chose the Matthew Wong exhibitionTechniques for engaging participants, including a deep dive into one of Wong's artworksConsiderations in programme design: ensuring comfort, choosing artworks, and managing durationDesigning a slow looking programme in a busy museum (hint: it can be done!)"In Silence with Matthew Wong": silent slow looking experience with one artworkReflections on the pilot programme and future plansIf you’ve ever thought about designing and facilitating slow looking programmes in your museum, you will learn a lot from this episode!Episode Links:Matthew Wong, The Realm of Appearances, 2018, https://www.vangoghmuseum.nl/en/about/news-and-press/press-image-bank/images-matthew-wong/the-realm-of-appearancesMatthew Wong exhibition at the Van Gogh Museumhttps://www.vangoghmuseum.nl/en/visit/whats-on/exhibitions/matthew-wong-vincent-van-goghSlow Looking Programme at the Van Gogh Museum https://www.vangoghmuseum.nl/nl/bezoek/agenda-en-activiteiten/rondleidingen/matthew-wong-vincent-van-goghOpen up with Vincent https://www.vangoghmuseum.nl/en/about/organisation/inclusion-and-accessibility-policy/open-up-with-vincent#collaborationsHarma van Uffelen on LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/harma-van-uffelen-4b50b721/H.vanUffelen@vangoghmuseum.nlThe Art Engager Links:Sign up for my Curated newsletter - a fortnightly dose of cultural inspirationJoin the Slow Looking Club CommunitySupport the show here https://www.buymeacoffee.com/clairebownDownload my free resources: How to look at art (slowly)- 30+ different ways to look at art or objects in the museumSlow Art Guide - six simple steps to guide you through the process of slow lookingUltimate Thinking Routine List - 120 thinking routines in one place If you have any suggestions, questions or feedback, get in touch with the show!

Apr 4, 2024 • 19min
How to build rapport in museum and gallery programmes
In today's episode: what is rapport, why is it important and how can we build it in our museum and gallery programmes? I recently wrote an article for the Journal of Museum Education inspired by the coaching training I did in 2022. In ' Fostering a coaching mindset: applying coaching competencies to enhance museum educator practice and visitor experience' I explored how museum educators can benefit from using coaching skills to enhance their teaching and improve the visitor experience. One of the competencies I talked about in this article is building rapport. Rapport is quite a subtle or nuanced concept. It’s also not something that comes up in everyday conversation. So what is rapport, why is it important for us as educators? I'll also be sharing 5 ways to build rapport in your museum and gallery programmes. LinksJournal of Museum Education article: 'Fostering a coaching mindset: applying coaching competencies to enhance museum educator practice and visitor experience' https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10598650.2023.2283400Episode 44 The 4 Elements of a Great IntroductionThe Art Engager Links:Sign up for my Curated newsletter - a fortnightly dose of cultural inspirationJoin the Slow Looking Club CommunitySupport the show here https://www.buymeacoffee.com/clairebownDownload my free resources: How to look at art (slowly)- 30+ different ways to look at art or objects in the museumSlow Art Guide - six simple steps to guide you through the process of slow lookingUltimate Thinking Routine List - 120 thinking routines in one place If you have any suggestions, questions or feedback, get in touch with the show!

Mar 21, 2024 • 45min
Get the Picture: How to engage with art with Bianca Bosker
Today, Bianca Boska, an award-winning journalist and author of 'Get The Picture: A Mind-Bending Journey among the Inspired Artists and Obsessive Art Fiends Who Taught Me How to See' discusses her new book and her journey into the art world with Claire Bown, host of The Art Engager podcast. Bianca immersed herself for 5 years into the New York art scene as a gallery assistant, artist assistant, curator, museum security guard and more as part of a journey to understand why art matters and how we can engage with it more deeply. In this chat, Bianca shares what she discovered about the art world, how her relationship with art has evolved, and how her experiences with various artworks have changed the way she sees the world. Links for Bianca Bosker and Get the Picture:Bianca Bosker Instagram, Twitter, FacebookAmazon: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Get-Picture-Mind-Bending-Inspired-Obsessive/dp/1911630466Bookshop: https://www.waterstones.com/book/get-the-picture/bianca-bosker/9781911630463 The Art Engager Links:Sign up for my Curated newsletter - a fortnightly dose of cultural inspirationJoin the Slow Looking Club CommunitySupport the show hereDownload my free resources: How to look at art (slowly)- 30+ different ways to look at art or objects in the museum.Slow Art Guide - six simple steps to guide you through the process of slow lookingUltimate Thinking Routine List - 120 thinking routines in one placeOther resourcesIf you have any suggestions, questions or feedback, get in touch with the show!

Mar 7, 2024 • 30min
The Art Bridge: Boosting Confidence through Visual Literacy
Host Claire Bown chats with Sofie Vermeiren, about The Art Bridge, a long-term collaboration between Museum Leuven and a local school, exploring how art can boost children's self-confidence and visual literacy. Episode linksEpisode webpage + transcriptSofie Vermeiren on LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/sofie-v-172093167/More info about the Art Bridge:https://www.mleuven.be/en/about-m/m-community/art-bridgehttps://www.mleuven.be/sites/default/files/2023-04/Publication_MaterDei_TheArtBridge.pdfBlog (in Dutch):https://kunstzone.nl/author/sofie-vermeiren/The Art Engager Links:Sign up for my Curated newsletter - a fortnightly dose of cultural inspirationJoin the Slow Looking Club CommunitySupport the show hereDownload my free resources: How to look at art (slowly)- 30+ different ways to look at art or objects in the museum.Slow Art Guide - six simple steps to guide you through the process of slow lookingUltimate Thinking Routine List - 120 thinking routines in one placeOther resourcesIf you have any suggestions, questions or feedback, get in touch with the show!

Feb 22, 2024 • 39min
Arts on prescription and museums: a conversation with Dr Tasha Golden
In this episode of the Art Engager podcast, host Claire Bown talks with Dr. Tasha Golden about the role arts and culture can play in public health, discussing Tasha's journey from singer-songwriter to public health scientist and the impact of social prescribing on healthcare. They delve into the ways museums are becoming active participants in community health, sharing examples and practical tips for cultural institutions. The conversation also covers the practical application of the Arts on Prescription field guide and the importance of inclusive access, diversity training, and self-care for educators and creatives in the arts.(0:00:13) - Dr. Tasha Golden's journey from musician to public health scientist and the success of the CultureRx pilot program.(0:12:15) - An in-depth look at social prescribing and arts on prescription's potential impact on social isolation.(0:18:14) - Museums promoting health and well-being through innovative programming and partnerships.(0:27:42) - The importance of diversity, equity, and inclusion training, trauma-informed practice, and self-care for creatives and educators.(0:38:11) - Wrap-up and resources.LinksArts on Prescription Field Guide https://www.tashagolden.com/fieldguidehttps://www.tashagolden.com/https://www.instagram.com/tasha.golden/https://www.linkedin.com/in/tashagolden/“How We Human,” Mental Health and Trauma-Informed Practice training — designed specifically for artists and arts organizations: http://www.tashagolden.com/trainingEpisode transcriptGet in touch with the show!Support the ShowCurated newsletter by Claire BownJoin the Slow Looking Club Community on FacebookDownload the free guide - how to look at art (slowly)Download the Ultimate Thinking Routine List

Feb 8, 2024 • 28min
See Listen Talk: Slow Looking Approaches for Vulnerable Audiences
Today I’m talking to Cecilie Monrad, Art Health Manager at Frederiksberg Museums in Copenhagen. We’re talking about See Listen Talk, a unique slow looking programme that helps young psychiatric service users in their recovery.See Listen Talk is a 15-week long programme with weekly meetings taking place outside of the museum's visiting hours. Participants were young psychiatric users aged 18 to 29. Some were still hospitalised during the course but were able to attend the museum sessions. The project had a co-therapist attached, who was both the participants' contact person and motivator.Listen to today's episode to hear:insights into the programme's framework and philosophy, discussing why slow looking was chosen as an approach and how it works in practice. what a typical session might involve and the methods and approaches that are used. how the programme creates connections within the group and how they create a ‘safe space and brave space’ for the participants through a broad trauma-sensitive framework. about the feedback the project has received so far and the positive impacts that the programme has had on the participants both inside and outside of the museum. the potential application and expansion of See, Listen, Talk, and the recent recognition of Cecilie's work in the intersection of health and culture, including a recent visit to the Parliament for an open hearing. This research by Kasper Levin at Roskilde University is ongoing and results are anticipated in March 2024. Links:https://frederiksbergmuseerne.dk/en/https://www.linkedin.com/in/cecilie-monrad-b43729269/https://journals.uio.no/museolog/article/view/6662 - in Danish [The museum as a catalyst for loneliness prevention in the elderly]Upcoming article (in Danish) in https://www.magasinetmuseum.dk/ ”Museer som trivselsrum: Slow Looking og Visible Thinking / ”Museums as spaces for wellbeing: Slow Looking and Visible ThinkingEpisode 24 Using art and objects to learn wellbeing skills and improve mental health with Louise ThompsonSuggest a guest or ask a question for the show - get in touch hereDownload my free Slow Art GuideDownload the Ultimate Thinking Routine ListSupport the ShowJoin the Slow Looking Club Community on FacebookFree guide - how to look at art (slowly)Curated newsletter by Claire Bown

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Jan 25, 2024 • 43min
Values-Engaged Gallery Teaching with Andrew Westover
Today I’m talking to Andrew Westover, Eleanor McDonald Storza Director of Education at the High Museum of Art in Atlanta, about how values-engaged teaching can transform gallery experiences and foster deep connections. Andrew Westover leads the learning team at the High Museum of Art in Atlanta, focusing on connecting people with art and ideas to inspire civic life. In this role, Andrew develops initiatives, partnerships, and diverse programming to engage Atlanta's communities. Andrew previously served as the Keith Haring Director of Education at the New Museum in New York, shaping the vision for the education department. Their diverse experience includes roles at the J. Paul Getty Museum, the National Museum of Wildlife Art, the Smithsonian's Hirshhorn Museum, and the Phoenix Art Museum. In this chat we’re exploring:what values-engaged teaching is in a gallery setting and how it can be applied. the importance of self-knowledge and understanding your own values as essential foundations for effective teaching in a gallery setting. the 5 values that underpin the work of High Museum of Art’s education department and how their work is rooted in listening, engaging in dialogue, building consensus, and designing spaces for various communities. how four key words—experiences, identities, affinities, and beliefs—serve as a bridge in connecting the museum's collections and exhibitions with its visitors. the importance of genuine connection in the museum, and how connection is essential for experiences to be meaningful and not merely a superficial interaction. practical strategies and examples of how to navigate conflict during gallery discussions, including a detailed example of addressing emotional responses. Andrew concludes by sharing tips for listeners looking to adopt similar strategies for values-engaged teaching in their practice or organisation. There is so much in this conversation - you might want to have a pen and paper handy! LinksAndrew Westover - High Museum of ArtHigh Museum of Art’s Educational Values and MethodologiesMuseum Magazine article: Transcending DogmaEdmonia Lewis’s sculpture Columbus: Columbus - High Museum of ArtTeaching in the Art Museum by Elliott Kai-Kee and Rika BurnhamForum for Leadership in Art Museum Education (professional network for heads of education at art museums): Forum for Leadership in Art Museum Education - My FLAME (gatherlearning.com)High Museum of Art LinkedIn and InstagramAndrew Westover LinkedIn and InstagramAsk a question or suggest a guest for the showDownload my free Slow Art GuideDownload the Ultimate Thinking Routine ListSupport the ShowJoin the Slow Looking Club Community on FacebookDownload the free guide - how to look at art (slowly)Curated newsletter by Claire Bown

Jan 11, 2024 • 31min
Bringing art to life in classrooms with Magic Lantern
Today I'm talking to Briony Brickell, the director of Magic Lantern, an educational charity delivering interactive art history workshops in schools across the UK. We chat about the organisation's work, its values, and the interactive art history sessions they conduct in primary schools for children aged 4 to 11.We explore Magic Lantern's unique cross-curricular approach, incorporating art history into various subjects like science, geography, history, English, maths, and more. We discuss a variety of specific strategies used in sessions, such as inviting students to step into artworks, creating soundscapes, exploring colours and patterns, and engaging students in the making process through dry painting. Briony also details a session involving Henri Rousseau's painting "Surprised" and shares how information is shared in the sessions. Briony concludes with tips for engaging children with art, emphasising the importance of cultivating a culture of looking, letting paintings speak for themselves initially, and gradually introducing historical and narrative context.Hope you enjoy our chat!LinksHenri Rousseau Surprised (1891)Hans Holbein The Ambassadors (1533)The Townley Discobolus statueMagic Lantern is an award winning charity that has been turning primary school classrooms into pop-up art galleries for nearly 30 years. Children are given the opportunity to explore, discuss and bring to life famous artworks, and discover the world of art from cave paintings to Cubism, Gothic to Graffiti, and Turner to the Turner Prize. These unique art history workshops are designed to support classroom topics across the whole curriculum and incorporate elements of drama, soundscape, writing and dialogue. Magic Lantern websiteFollow Magic Lantern on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook

Dec 14, 2023 • 40min
How to engage participants in historic spaces through inquiry and facilitation
In today's episode, Dr. Stephanie Smith, Learning Manager at the Museum of Australian Democracy (MoAD) in Canberra, shares insights into MoAD's innovative approach to engaging visitors in historical spaces. Steph talks about MoAD's educational programmes, focusing on their inquiry-based approach and how they encourage an 'inquiry mindset' through active student participation. We also explore the team's teaching methods and how they use intentional and scaffolded open-ended questions to spark student curiosity and participation. We discuss the importance of making students feel heard, encouraging them to share thoughts, and creating a positive, participatory learning environment.We also talk about MoAD's unique professional development model, built on collaboration, continuous learning, and reflective practices. We explore 'slow looking pd' where the team think and learn together by reflecting on various provocations and questions (including episodes of The Art Engager!). 'Slow Looking PD' is a deliberate practice that helps the team at MoAD to improve how they teach and support students. Throughout the episode, Steph shares lots of strategies for student engagement and reflective growth. Whether you're interested in engaging with students, innovative teaching methods, or a facilitation-focused approach to team PD, there are so many takeaways from this episode. Linkshttps://www.moadoph.gov.au/Museum Educators Facebook groupInstagram @stephi_smith_inquirer
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