
The Pastorate Podcast
The Pastorate Podcast hosts thoughtful conversations with guests who are passionate about the Canadian church. Here to serve Canadian pastors, we dive into topics that speak to the heart, soul, and vision of the pastorate, all the while sharing stories from guests who minister in diverse church contexts.
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Sep 9, 2024 • 49min
Father James Mallon on His Return to Local Church Ministry, Embracing the Cost of Renewal, and Turning Our Churches Outwards
The work of renewal in a church is slow, costly, and long-term. It requires pastors who consistently say, “I can’t do this alone,” and who return to the feet of Jesus, the One making all things new.
This week, Father James Mallon, Pastor of Our Lady of Guadalupe Parish in beautiful Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, joins us on the podcast to share his heart for evangelism and his passion for parish renewal.
Father James reflects on:
His journey back to local church ministry after a season in parachurch and diocesan roles
Re-experiencing the cost of renewal in a parish setting
Tending to the inevitable wounds of pastoral ministry
The Holy Spirit as both the gathering and sending force of the Church
We hope you find joy and comfort in knowing that pastoral ministry is a shared journey, as brothers and sisters across Canada collectively pray, “Come, Holy Spirit.”
Bio | Father James Mallon is pastor of Our Lady of Guadalupe Parish in Dartmouth, Nova Scotia and founder of the Divine Renovation Ministry.
The message of Divine Renovation has resonated in the hearts of tens of thousands of pastors and lay leaders throughout the world. It has inspired and motivated them to act and seek help in transforming their own faith community. To answer their needs, the Divine Renovation Ministry was created. Fr James continues to serve the Divine Renovation Ministry with a portion of his time.
Born in Scotland, Father James and his family moved to Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada in 1982. After studying at Christ the King Seminary in British Columbia and St. Augustine’s Seminary in Toronto, Father James was ordained to the Catholic priesthood in 1997.
He currently resides in Halifax, Nova Scotia. In addition to his ministry, Father James loves soccer, movies, photography, dogs, everything Apple and good Single Malt Scotch.
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Aug 19, 2024 • 45min
Dan Cochrane on His Call to the Pastorate, Growing and Adapting Alongside The Church, and Preaching the Living Word
As pastors we want to run the race well and finish more in love with Jesus and with His church than when we started. Pastors that have been both fruitful and faithful set a beautiful example for what longevity in ministry can look like.
This week Dan Cochrane, Pastor of CrossRoads Church in Red Deer, Alberta, joins us on the podcast to share insights from over 45 years of experience as a Pastor. With 27 of those years being spent at CrossRoads Church alone.
Dan shares about:
His story and the path he took to discovering his call to the Pastorate
His experience inheriting a legacy of faithfulness
Managing church growth and learning to grow alongside the church he is pastoring
The gift it is to be able to preach the Living Word of God
Today we're praying that you would hear the invitation to joy and delight in the Holy Spirit as you hear the passion and energy Dan carries for the church in Canada.
Bio | Dan Cochrane has been the Senior Pastor of CrossRoads Church since July 1, 1997. Prior to CrossRoads, he pastored in North Vancouver for 18 years. He has been married to his wife, Ginny since June 1977 and they have three adult children: Rick (Jenn), Christina, and Ryan (Janine). Their lives have also been blessed with six grandchildren. The vision of CrossRoads Church is: "To give everyone in Central Alberta an opportunity to have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and by following Him together impact the world with compassion and hope." Dan is passionate about theology and studying scriptures. His focus is to teach the Bible and to lead the church forward in accomplishing the vision God has given. He also delights in developing young leaders and watching them grow.
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Aug 5, 2024 • 57min
Rich Villodas on The Three Phases of Genuine Relationships, Navigating Expectations Put On Pastors, and The Narrow Path
What does community look like when it’s rooted in love and grounded in the realities of life? How do we grab hold of a vision for biblical unity within our congregations and learn to live in the tensions that come with knowing and loving others well?
This week, Rich Villodas, author of The Deeply Formed Life and Pastor of New Life Fellowship, joins us on the podcast for a second time to share insights from his wealth of experience and out of his heart to care well for other pastors.
Rich shares about:
The realities of biblical unity, what it looks and feels like in a dynamic congregation
Dealing with expectations that are placed on Pastors, by others and by themselves
His new book, The Narrow Path, and how the Sermon on the Mount offers a reframing of what it means to follow Jesus in our time
We hope by listening to this conversation you experience a fresh invitation to the counter-cultural way of Jesus and that His love and grace cover you and keep you today.
Bio | Rich Villodas is the Brooklyn-born lead pastor of New Life Fellowship, a large multiracial church with more than seventy-five countries represented in Elmhurst, Queens. Rich holds a Master of Divinity from Alliance Theological Seminary. He enjoys reading widely, preaching and writing on contemplative spirituality, justice-related matters, and the art of preaching. He's been married to Rosie since 2006 and they have two beautiful children, Karis and Nathan. Rich is the author of three books: The Deeply Formed Life, Good and Beautiful and Kind, and The Narrow Path.
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Jul 22, 2024 • 49min
Daniel Im on Pastoring In Times of Deep Loss, Becoming the Pastor of a 100+ Year Old Church, and The Four Types of People In Your Church
The church growth movement of the 20th-century has left a lasting impact on our perception of the Church today. What can we learn from its successes and shortcomings, and how can we move forward in the context of our post-everything society?
This week, Daniel Im from Beulah Alliance Church in Edmonton joins us on the podcast for a second time
Daniel shares about:
His experience pastoring in the midst of deep loss
Reflections on the transition into the Lead Pastor role of Beulah Alliance Church, a church with a 103 year history
The value of surrounding yourself with people who can sharpen you and challenge you while you are in leadership
His new book, The Discipleship Opportunity: Leading a Great-Commission Church in a Post-Everything World
We hope this conversation encourages and equips you as you serve those in your church and in your community.
Bio | Daniel Im is a pastor, Bible teacher, writer, and podcast host with a passion for the local church. He is the Lead Pastor of Beulah Alliance Church in Edmonton, Alberta. His latest book is The Discipleship Opportunity: Leading a Great-Commission Church in a Post-Everything World (NavPress 2024). He has also written No Silver Bullets: Five Small Shifts that will Transform Your Ministry (B&H Books 2017), Planting Missional Churches: Your Guide to Starting Churches that Multiply (2nd Ed) (B&H Academic, 2016), and You Are What You Do: And Six Other Lies about Work, Life, and Love (B&H Books 2020).
He has an M.A. in Global Leadership from Fuller Theological Seminary, and has served and pastored in church plants and multisite churches ranging from 100 people to 50,000 people in Vancouver, Ottawa, Montreal, Korea, Edmonton, and Nashville.
His podcasts have been downloaded over 3 million times, and he currently co-hosts the IMbetween Podcast with his wife, Christina, where they help you discover the tools to build a marriage and family you love. Together, they serve as speakers for FamilyLife Canada’s Weekend Getaway Marriage Conference. Daniel also serves as a Bible teacher for 100 Huntley Street, Canada’s longest running daily television show.
He has been married to his wife, Christina, since 2006 and they have three children. For more information, visit danielim.com and follow him on social media @danielsangi.
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Jul 8, 2024 • 52min
Shaila Visser from Alpha on Leading for Longevity and A New Moment for Evangelism in Canada
Every leader faces moments when vision dims and passion wavers. How do we sustain a vision for long term leadership and be able to lead with joy in our hearts and conviction in our steps?This week, Shaila Visser from Alpha joins us on the podcast for a second time to share insights from her extensive leadership experience. Shaila shares about: Sustaining vision for longevity in ministry The importance of asking the Holy Spirit to spark passion for personal evangelism New research Alpha has done in partnership with flourishing congregations on the perception and practices of evangelism in Canada todayWe hope this conversation fills you with hope and encouragement that you are part of a work that God is doing across our nation in our time.BiographyShaila Visser is the National Director of Alpha Canada and the Global Senior Vice-President for Alpha International. She is the Executive Producer of both The Alpha Youth Film Series (2013) and The Alpha Film Series (2016), and currently holds a position on the Board of the Damascus Road Foundation. Shaila has a heart for people coming to know Jesus and is passionate about helping the local church flourish. She is a gifted communicator who is known for her strategic leadership as well as her ability to bring people together.Shaila loves hiking, beaches, next generation leaders, her big anglo-Indian family, and achieving new goals- whether that be fitness, books, or learning. Shaila lives in Vancouver BC with her husband, Ryan Visser, a Vancouver Police Officer, and their four-legged family members, Talon and Benny.PartnersView the Reigniting Hope Report.We couldn’t do the work we do at The Pastorate without your generous support. We invite you to pray, share, and givetowards seeding a hope-filled future for the Canadian church.Download a free PDF on Improving Your Giving Statements from Generis or get in touch with Jon Wright from their team here.Guest Notes Alpha Canada Reigniting Hope Full ReportShow Notes Website Youtube Instagram

Jun 24, 2024 • 53min
Chrishan Jeyaratnam from Hillsong East Coast on Leading Through Grief & Transformation
Seasons of transition and uncertainty can test a leader’s resilience and calling. How do we guide a church through grief, rebuild trust, and embrace transformation with integrity?In this episode, Chrishan Jeyaratnam, Lead Pastor of Hillsong East Coast, joins Jason Ballard to share his journey of pastoring through deep change. He reflects on leading a church in the aftermath of crisis, navigating distrust in leadership, and the personal and communal transformation necessary for renewal. Chrishan also unpacks the unique identity of a local church and how drawing from the broader body of Christ can bring strength and restoration.In today’s conversation, you’ll hear about: Leading people through grief and guiding a church through seasons of uncertainty Reckoning with distrust and rebuilding confidence in leadership Seeking transformation—first personally, then within the wider church The unique charism of a local church and how it can be strengthened by the broader body of ChristBiographyChrishan and his wife Danielle have served at Hillsong Church for many years, most recently as the Lead Pastors at Hillsong East Coast USA where they have been pastoring for the past 3 years. Before moving to New York with their four daughters, Chrishan and Danielle previously pastored at Hillsong Church Perth in Australia. As a family, they are committed to loving God and people, and to and living the adventure that it is to build His Church.SponsorsWe couldn’t do the work we do at The Pastorate without your generous support. We invite you to pray, share, and givetowards seeding a hope-filled future for the Canadian church.Thanks to the Canadian Bible Society for supporting this episode. Learn more about their Bible Course. Guest Notes Hillsong East CoastShow Notes Website Youtube Instagram

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Jun 10, 2024 • 1h 27min
Pete Hughes & Tyler Staton on Contending for the Renewal of your City and Cultivating Deep Rhythms of Prayer
Pete Hughes and Tyler Staton share insights on cultivating deep rhythms of prayer and contending for city renewal. They discuss finding personal and corporate prayer rhythms, creating a culture of contending through storytelling, and seeing God's redemptive vision for cities. Both guests are passionate about seeking God's transformative work in their communities.

May 27, 2024 • 57min
Helen Burns on the Tension Between Production & Authenticity, the Crisis of Pastoral Belonging, and Why Gen Z is Looking For Presence Over Information
38 years into ministry, Helen Burns speaks of the Church We’re excited to share this conversation with Helen Burns, a beloved voice of encouragement and wisdom in the Canadian Church. With 38 years of ministry experience, Helen and her husband John planted Relate Church in 1986, serving as lead pastors for 35 years before transitioning leadership to their daughter Angela and her husband Rod in 2018.With deep love for the Church and an unwavering hope for the next generation, Helen shares reflections on: The challenge of leadership transitions and the emotional cost of passing the baton well The shift from performance-driven ministry to authentic presence and why Gen Z seeks real encounters over production The power of intergenerational relationships and why seasoned leaders are more needed than ever in today’s Church The reality of pastoral loneliness and how she and John are investing in leaders through mentorship and restorative retreatsHelen’s humility, wisdom, and deep love for the Church make this an inspiring conversation. Whether you're a seasoned leader or an emerging pastor, we pray this episode encourages and strengthens you in your journey.Helen Burns is a passionate lover of Jesus and committed to building His Church. She and her husband John pioneered Relate Church, a thriving family church in the Vancouver area, in 1986 where they served as lead pastors for 35 years. Today, they continue to teach and serve there while travelling and speaking internationally. Helen shares with depth and insight on marriage, family and relationships, and is the author of several books.John and Helen have been married for over 50 years and they have three awesome daughters and she is the blessed Oma of eight grandchildren.Listen now and be encouraged!Sponsors:We couldn’t do the work we do at The Pastorate without your generous support. We invite you to pray, share, and givetowards seeding a hope-filled future for the Canadian church.Thanks to the Canadian Bible Society for supporting this episode. Learn more about their Bible Course.Guest Notes Relate Church The Contemplative Pastor by Eugene Peterson Barna StatisticsSee, Hear, Love YouTube/PodcastShow Notes Website Youtube Instagram

May 13, 2024 • 53min
Evan Allnutt on Recapturing Courage & Releasing Your Vision For God’s Call
Every leader faces seasons of struggle and discouragement. How do we stay faithful to God’s call while navigating personal challenges and leading with perseverance?In this episode, Evan Allnutt, Lead Pastor of Northgate Church, joins us to share his journey through career transitions, church leadership, and the importance of surrendering to God's vision. Evan reflects on overcoming moments of discouragement and the role of community in sustaining long-term ministry.Key Takeaways: The importance of surrender and re-surrender to God’s calling during times of discouragement. How reflecting on a church’s rich legacy can renew purpose and drive in leadership. Navigating cultural shifts while staying grounded in God’s leading. Practical steps for leading with vulnerability and Kingdom imagination. The power of community and connection with other pastors in moments of struggle. Finding courage through God’s intervention and stories of revival.This conversation is filled with hope, practical insights, and encouragement for pastors and leaders navigating challenging seasons.Biography Evan Allnutt is the Lead Pastor of Northgate Church in the Comox Valley, where he has led through significant growth and challenges. Originally transitioning from teaching to ministry, Evan has served faithfully in the church for over seven years, alongside his wife Kendal and their three children.Partners We couldn’t do the work we do at The Pastorate without your generous support. We invite you to pray, share, and givetowards seeding a hope-filled future for the Canadian church.Download a free PDF on Improving Your Giving Statements from Generis or get in touch with Jon Wright from their team here.Guest Notes Northgate ChurchShow Notes Website Youtube Instagram

Apr 29, 2024 • 1h 16min
John Mark Comer on Spiritual Formation for Today’s World, Recovery After Sundays, and Practices for Deep Friendship
Pastoring today comes with unique challenges: cultural hostility, personal struggles, and the tension between work and rest. How do we remain faithful to God's call and lead with humility when the road ahead feels uncertain?In this episode, John Mark Comer, founder of Practicing the Way, joins us to discuss the evolving role of pastors in today's culture. John Mark reflects on the growing interest in spiritual formation, the importance of Sabbath rhythms, and how pastors can navigate cultural hostility while being purified through it. He also shares insights on cultivating deep, vulnerable friendships and the role of confession in pastoral health.Key Takeaways The importance of spiritual formation in today’s Church and why people are drawn to it. Balancing work and rest as essential practices for pastoral longevity. The power of deep, honest friendships and vulnerability in leadership. Practical insights for pastors navigating the spiritual, emotional, and relational demands of ministry.This conversation is a refreshing look at pastoral life, filled with wisdom, hope, and practical tools for long-term faithfulness in ministry.Biography John Mark Comer is the founder of Practicing the Way and has spent over two decades pastoring, teaching, and creating resources for spiritual formation. He is also a bestselling author, known for his work "The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry" and his deep commitment to helping people grow in their walk with Jesus.PartnersWe couldn’t do the work we do at The Pastorate without your generous support. We invite you to pray, share, and givetowards seeding a hope-filled future for the Canadian church.Thanks to the Canadian Bible Society for supporting this episode. Learn more about their Bible Course.Guest Notes Practicing The Way Books by John MarkShow Notes Website Youtube Instagram