

Streets and People
Get Around Caboolture
Streets & People explores how people in Queensland and around the world get around, especially those who don’t drive.
* People & Projects episodes bring together experts, advocates, and community leaders to discuss trends in active and public transport.
* Not Everyone Drives episodes share the personal stories of those navigating car-dependent towns without a car.
* Road Rules 360 with John Burrill steps through Queensland’s road rules and legal cases, focusing on those walking, cycling, or using mobility aids.
Discover more at (www.GetAroundCaboCarfree.com.au). Art by Chris Woodard.
* People & Projects episodes bring together experts, advocates, and community leaders to discuss trends in active and public transport.
* Not Everyone Drives episodes share the personal stories of those navigating car-dependent towns without a car.
* Road Rules 360 with John Burrill steps through Queensland’s road rules and legal cases, focusing on those walking, cycling, or using mobility aids.
Discover more at (www.GetAroundCaboCarfree.com.au). Art by Chris Woodard.
Episodes
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Jan 31, 2025 • 32min
S2E2 P&P James Laing: Making Cities Move with Active Travel
In this captivating conversation, James Laing, a cycle planner with experience in London and now in Melbourne, shares insights from his journey toward designing more accessible streets for cycling and walking. He discusses the inspiring effects of London’s Healthy Streets initiative and the challenges of traditional traffic models. Laing emphasizes the importance of community engagement, low-cost trials, and shifting focus from cars to people, proving that real urban transformation is possible when the narrative focuses on livability.

Jan 24, 2025 • 30min
S2E1 P&P Peter Bourke – Cracking the Code on E-Bike Battery and Helmet Legislation
When you hit the streets on your e-bike, how often do you think about the laws that keep you rolling safely? Peter Bourke, General Manager of Bicycle Industries Australia, brings years of expertise to unravel the tangled web of e-bike and helmet regulations across Australia.
This People & Projects episode of the Streets and People podcast is your map through the maze, filled with surprising twists, sharp insights, and practical solutions.
E-bikes are booming, but did you know that the laws governing them differ from one state to the next? Imagine riding freely across state lines only to discover your bike’s battery doesn’t meet the local rules. These inconsistencies make it hard for consumers and the industry to keep up. Peter explains how smarter, harmonised regulations could pave the way for safer and more sustainable active transport.
If safety is your priority, this episode has you covered. Peter
shares why investing in high-quality helmets and batteries is non-negotiable. He steps through the latest reforms that make safety gear more reliable and how they could spark a cultural shift in how Australians view active transport.
What makes this discussion stick? Picture this: If we can get e-bike laws right in one state, why not nationwide? Peter’s real-world stories and vivid examples give this idea legs. And his background in sports science adds muscle to the conversation, making it both credible and engaging.
Discover why e-bikes aren’t just a trend but a revolution waiting for the right rules to take flight. This episode delivers the clarity and confidence you need to ride safely and smartly.
If you liked this episode, you might also enjoy our episode with Stephen Hodge.
https://www.bikeoz.org
https://www.weride.org.au
GetAroundCaboolture.au

Dec 13, 2024 • 28min
S1E60 RR360 Road Rules. Language, Courts, Legislation – a collision with a HiLux, a Pedestrian and a Cyclist
In the final Streets and People podcast episode for 2024, in Road Rules 360, John Burrill and Wendy Nash reflect on their journey through road rules. They talk about the highs and lows of explaining the complexities of road regulations. A listener shared they enjoyed when John and Wendy disagreed, offering fresh perspectives. They also discuss a collision between a Hilux, a pedestrian and a cyclist and the importance of clearer road rule legislation.
The episode highlights how wording in legal language impacts both public perception and road safety. They explore the need for laws to be simple and clear, as well as for communities to get involved in making changes. Their conversation reveals the importance of making road rules accessible to everyone.
John and Wendy conclude with a powerful message about improving road safety legislation and announce an exciting rebranding for the initiative – from 2025 it’ll be Get Around Caboolture.au. Their goal is to help everyone better understand the rules that protect them on the road.
Here's the court case transcript https://www.queenslandjudgments.com.au/caselaw/qca/2024/49/pdf
www.GetAroundCaboCarFree.com.au

Nov 29, 2024 • 32min
S1E59 P&P Ryan Foster. Bringing Joy to Seniors with Cycling Without Age
How do you transform a senior’s world with the turn of a bike pedal? Ryan Foster shares his journey of launching Cycling Without Age in Brisbane. This international movement started in Denmark and now spans 46 countries, offering free trishaw rides to seniors and those with limited mobility. Ryan reveals the challenges of navigating floods and the pandemic to keep the wheels turning and the laughter flowing.
Each ride isn’t just about fresh air. It’s about connection. Imagine a 92-year-old feeling the wind on their face after decades off a bike or rediscovering forgotten neighbourhoods. With specialised trishaws, volunteers, and community support, the Brisbane chapter proves that no matter the obstacle, the power of human connection always finds a way.
Ryan also shares the “how” of it all. From sourcing grants to training volunteers, he gives practical tips for starting a chapter in your area. If you’ve ever felt the itch to make a difference or wondered how to combat social isolation for seniors, this episode is for you.
Ready to pedal towards a better community? Tune in and be inspired.
Find out more about Cycling Without Age Brisbane
https://www.facebook.com/cyclingwithoutagebrisbane
Find your local Cycling Without Age group https://cyclingwithoutage.org.au/where-we-operate
www.GetAroundCaboCarFree.com.au
This is our final episode for 2024. Have a great Christmas and New Year and look out for us next year with our new name Get Around Caboolture. We already have great episodes lined up for January.

Nov 22, 2024 • 36min
S1E58 RR360 Cracking the Code - eScooter, eSkateboard, eUnicycle (PMD) Laws in Qld
Imagine this. You're gliding along a shared pathway on an e-scooter when a sudden jolt reminds you of the challenges on our streets. In this episode of Road Rules 360, Wendy Nash sits down withJohn Burrill, a former Transport and Main Roads official with 20 years of experience. Together, we unpack the history, complexities, and quirks of Queensland’s personal mobility device (PMD) legislation.
Did you know the first laws for PMDs were designed for Segways? It took years of determined work to adapt them to cover eScooters and other devices. Today, the rules include strict speed limits (maximum 25 km/h), size requirements, and guidelines for where you can legally ride. But many of these regulations now feel outdated and overly complicated.
John shares detailed stories about PMD users navigating rough paths and tight spaces, showing how the rules often clash with real-world challenges. We explore the struggle to align PMD rules with those for bicycles and other mobility options while keeping streets safe and accessible for everyone.
Whether you’re a seasoned eScooter user or someone keen to understand how to ride legally, this episode sheds light on how we can make the system work better for all.
https://www.qld.gov.au/transport/safety/rules/wheeled-devices/personal-mobility-devices
https://streetsmarts.initiatives.qld.gov.au/initiatives/pmd-rules
www.GetAroundCaboCarFree.com.au

Nov 22, 2024 • 12min
S1E57 RR360 Listener question. Ryan asks Who has right of way when the bike is behind the car?
In this Road Rules 360 episode of the Streets and People podcast, Wendy Nash and John Burrill tackle a road rule question from Ryan, a listener. The issue? What happens when a cyclist and a car both move through an intersection. John brings his extensive expertise from years in transport and road rules to break down the key responsibilities for both drivers and cyclists in this situation. He makes the point that while drivers must be vigilant and check their surroundings especially when turning left, cyclists have a clear responsibility to give way when it's behind a turning car.
This episode cuts through the complexity of road safety and looks into Queensland’s road rules highlighting the pressures on drivers to maintain awareness at every moment. John and Wendy discuss the burden on drivers to constantly shoulder-check while navigating the road and the need for smarter road design to make everyone’s journey safer. The hosts argue that effective road engineering could help ease the mental load on drivers and prevent confusion at intersections where cyclists and cars share the space.
As John points out it’s not just about rules – it’s about understanding them and knowing how to use them in the real world. You’ll walk away with a deeper grasp of the rules that apply to cyclists and drivers alike and why safer road design should be a priority.
www.GetAroundCaboCarFree.com.au

Nov 14, 2024 • 35min
S1E56 P&P Jonathan English on Building Popular Bus Services in the Suburbs
Imagine if suburban buses became a go-to service, where seamless, frequent, and connected rides weren’t just an option but a game-changer. This week on The Streets and People podcast, Wendy sits down with Jonathan English, a transport expert from NYU’s Marin Institute of Urban Management, to talk about how suburban bus services can be built to stick - really stick - with riders, instead of falling into the “empty bus, poor service” trap so common in North America, Australia, New Zealand and the UK.
Drawing from Toronto’s success story, Jonathan explains how setting up consistent and high-quality bus services from the very start made all the difference in newer suburban areas. It's about more than just buses arriving on time - it’s about creating a true alternative to cars. Jonathan's insights span Toronto to Zurich and car-dependent Espoo on the outskirts of Helsinki, offering a front-row view of how integration and frequency can transform buses from overlooked to essential.
Wendy and Jonathan talk about what it takes to make these services thrive: cohesive networks, big-picture transport planning, and sound financial models that create a real foundation for growth. The conversation wraps with practical tips for local leaders, residents and anyone invested in improving suburban bus services. Because building bus networks that work - and that people want to use - takes a smart approach and a commitment to stick to it.
We mention the bus services in Espoo in Finland which Jonathan speaks on https://youtu.be/vAygH6SZg28?si=ew6pbxszLN5B8ju1
Why Did America Give Up on Mass Transit? (Don’t Blame Cars.) Streetcar, bus, and metro systems have been ignoring one lesson for 100 years: Service drives demand. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-08-31/why-is-american-mass-transit-so-bad-it-s-a-long-story
www.GetAroundCaboCarFree.com.au

Nov 8, 2024 • 34min
S1E55 P&P Marina Milosev shares how to design spaces that truly welcome women and girls
How often do we talk about making spaces safe without truly asking what welcoming could look like? In this People & Projects episode of the Streets and People podcast, Marina Milosev challenges the status quo, sharing her insights into creating spaces where women and girls can feel seen, involved and empowered. As a landscape architect and urban planner in London, Marina’s work on the London Legacy Development Corporation's handbook plunges into an often-overlooked reality – urban spaces need to be designed with everyone in mind. Marina’s journey takes her from Serbia to London, where she leads work on urban regeneration and sees the crucial need for gender-informed spaces that resonate with lived experiences.
Marina explains why a genuine, inclusive design approach doesn’t just tick off safety boxes. It reaches deeper. She unpacks how urban design can reinforce or dismantle social injustice, showing how involving women and girls from diverse backgrounds transforms planning and outcomes alike. From engaging young people to questioning established norms, Marina reveals what it takes to create a cityscape that’s not only functional but inspiring for all. Imagine spaces crafted with gender equality at their core, with every decision thoughtfully inclusive and each street or park space designed for a more connected, more just community.
You’ll hear Marina discuss how genuine change demands an intersectional approach, including community-driven insights and pushing for representation where it counts. This episode will challenge the ways we think about cities and show you what’s possible when urban planning becomes a tool for empowerment.
Listen to this episode and explore how we can all reimagine spaces to support women and girls.
The guide that Marina Milosev delivered is Creating Places that Work for Women and Girls - Handbook for Local Authorities, Developers and Designers https://live-qeop.pantheonsite.io/sites/default/files/attachments/Handbook%20Creating%20Places%20that%20Work%20for%20Women%20and%20Girls%20FINAL.pdf
Marina's website: https://beyondtheredline.co.uk/gender-equality-in-design
Marina referred to the inclusion organisation We Made That https://www.wemadethat.co.uk
Wendy mentioned the UK Office of Science Futures thinking and foresight - a brief guide https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/futures-thinking-and-foresight-a-brief-guide
www.GetAroundCaboCarFree.com.au

Nov 1, 2024 • 32min
S1E54 P&P Tim Gill. Kids need freedom to thrive – or we risk losing more than we know
Tim Gill, an independent expert on child-friendly planning and author of "Urban Playground," explores the alarming decline in children's freedom to roam outdoors. He highlights how our car-centric cities limit children's opportunities for play and growth. The discussion covers the importance of safe spaces like Play Streets and School Streets that foster community and allow kids to learn independence. Gill emphasizes that balancing safety with freedom is crucial for developing resilience and confidence in children, while also urging a return to outdoor culture.

Oct 24, 2024 • 22min
S1E53 NED Becky shares her experiences disliking driving at 30kph to finding it enjoyable
In this Not Everyone Drives episode of The Streets and People podcast, Wendy chats with Becky from Oxfordshire UK about the transition from
50kph to 30kph (30mph to 20mph) speed limits in villages and residential streets. They explore the effects on commuting, driving comfort and local congestion. The discussion also touches on the environmental benefits of slower speeds, challenges of rural driving and the lack of cycling infrastructure. Becky describes mixed reactions to the changes. The dialogue underscores the tranquility and increased awareness from lower speed limits and how lower speed limits affect driving behaviours, commute times and safety while also touching on the environmental benefits and urban planning considerations. Additionally, the conversation explores public opinions on speed limit changes, emphasising the need for improved cycling infrastructure and public transport to foster safer and more child-friendly streets.
For more about the transition from 50kph to 30kph, check out our conversation with Rod King at 20s Plenty. https://open.spotify.com/episode/46CrXPURfYxqG0KgrbwpJk?si=507c99f60c794386
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