

Dev Interrupted
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Dev Interrupted is the go-to podcast for software engineering leadership. Each week, hosts Andrew Zigler, Ben Lloyd Pearson, and Dan Lines sit down with industry experts to explore the strategies, struggles, and stories behind high-performing software teams. Paired with weekly industry news coverage, the conversations dive deep into the real challenges that define excellence in modern tech.
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Feb 7, 2023 • 34min
The Problem with MTTR: Learning from Incident Reports | Courtney Nash
Tracking Mean Time To Restore (MTTR) is standard industry practice for incident response and analysis, but should it be? Courtney Nash, an Internet Incident Librarian, argues that MTTR is not a reliable metric - and we think she's got a point. We caught up with Courtney at the DevOps Enterprise Summit in Las Vegas, where she was making her case against MTTR in favor of alternative metrics (SLOs and cost of coordination data), practices (Near Miss analysis), and mindsets (humans are the solution, not the problem) to help organization better learn from their incidents. Show NotesCheck out Courtney's The Void podcastSupport the show: Subscribe to our Substack Leave us a review Subscribe on YouTube Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn Offers: Learn about Continuous Merge with gitStream Get your DORA Metrics free forever

Jan 31, 2023 • 41min
The Rise of Vector Search | Pinecone's Edo Liberty
We're still in January and AI might already be the buzzword of 2023 - and for good reason. AI powered startups have been layoff resistant and machine learning engineers are one of the fastest growing jobs, not in tech, but in the entire economy. This week, we sit down with Pinecone Founder and CEO, Edo Liberty. An AI and machine learning expert, Edo graduated from Yale with a PhD in Applied Mathematics and worked as Head of Amazon’s AI Labs before founding Pinecone.Listen as he explains why the biggest AI and machine learning companies in the world - Google, Amazon, Meta and TikTok - use vector search to power their products.Show NotesPinecone is hiring! https://www.pinecone.io/careers/Support the show: Subscribe to our Substack Leave us a review Subscribe on YouTube Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn Offers: Learn about Continuous Merge with gitStream Get your DORA Metrics free forever

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Jan 24, 2023 • 48min
Connecting Your Devs' Work to the Business | A Conversation with Shopify, Slack & Stripe
"Is my team solving the right problem?" To answer this seemingly simple question, we assembled a panel of some of the smartest engineering leaders we know and asked them how they answer this question with their own teams.Featuring Rukmini Reddy, SVP of Platform Engineering at Slack, James Stanier, Dir. of Engineering at Shopify, and Smruti Patel, VP of Engineering at Apollo, the following conversation debuted in front of a live audience at the Interact engineering conference. Originally an exclusive conversation for Interact attendees, we listened to our fans and decided to drop the full conversation as an episode of the podcast. Items of note: This panel was filmed in October prior to many of the recent layoffs that have been in the news. When this panel was recorded Smruti Patel worked at Stripe. She has since taken a job with Apollo. Show NotesSupport the show: Subscribe to our Substack Leave us a review Subscribe on YouTube Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn Offers: Learn about Continuous Merge with gitStream Get your DORA Metrics free forever

Jan 17, 2023 • 47min
The Journey to Code Mastery | Marqeta's Randy Kern
Randy Kern, CTO at Marqeta, thinks that every engineer should "go deep" - all the way to understanding the transistors if you have to. He implores us never to be satisfied with black boxes, believing that it's not only risky not to understand what your code is really doing, but it's not fun either.We love this episode because Randy's joy is infectious. He reminds us why we got into software engineering in the first place. If you've been looking for a reminder yourself, this is the episode for you. Show NotesMarqeta is hiring - check out their career page!Support the show: Subscribe to our Substack Leave us a review Subscribe on YouTube Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn Offers: Learn about Continuous Merge with gitStream Get your DORA Metrics free forever

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Jan 10, 2023 • 45min
Startup Growth & Metrics: What to Measure & When | Laura Tacho
As your startup scales it's not enough to know what to measure - you have to know WHEN to measure. Metrics that are important in one growth phase might not be in the next.To help us make sense of it all, we invited Laura Tacho onto the show. Laura is a VP of Engineering & Leadership Coach, and an expert when it comes to startup growth and metrics, having worked with over 125 different companies. We love this episode because it takes a team-first approach to metrics and then relates those metrics back to the growth of your organization. Whether you are a seasoned engineering leader or an IC trying to understand where your team is headed, this unique take on metrics will set your team up for success - and happiness - in 2023. Show NotesMeasuring Development Team Performance coursehttps://lauratacho.com/Support the show: Subscribe to our Substack Leave us a review Subscribe on YouTube Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn Offers: Learn about Continuous Merge with gitStream Get your DORA Metrics free forever

Jan 3, 2023 • 30min
Educating the Next Generation of Cloud Engineers | Google Cloud's Forrest Brazeal
Happy New Year and welcome to Season 3 of Dev Interrupted! We couldn't think of a better way to kick off Season 3 of the podcast than with the immensely talented Forrest Brazeal. Not only is Forrest the Head of Developer Media at Google Cloud, but he lists being a writer, speaker, cartoonist, cloud architect and AWS Serverless Hero, among his many accolades. To top it all off, Forrest is an all around great guy with a passion for education and advocacy. That's why he's working to help educate, train and develop the next generation of cloud engineers. But he needs your help. Listen as Forrest explains why so many great engineers get overlooked by companies - and how to stop it. Show NotesCloud Resume ChallengeGoogle Cloud Next '22 Developer Keynote: Top 10 Cloud Technology PredictionsSupport the show: Subscribe to our Substack Leave us a review Subscribe on YouTube Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn Offers: Learn about Continuous Merge with gitStream Get your DORA Metrics free forever

Dec 20, 2022 • 28min
Season 2 Finale: Holidays, 2022’s Favorite Moments, Season 3 Sneak Peek & more!
Sit back, relax, grab your favorite beverage and listen as Dev Interrupted co-hosts Dan Lines & Conor Bronsdon recap the Season 2 of the podcast. In this special episode, our co-hosts describe their perfect holiday meal, share some of their favorite moments from the past year (personal and professional!) and give a sneak peek at what the audience can expect from Season 3 of the podcast.From our family to yours, have a wonderful holiday season and we’ll see you on January 3rd for Season 3!Show NotesDan's favorite interview: Charity MajorsDan's favorite topic: Ship/Show/AskConor's favorite interview: Kelly VaughnConor's favorite episode: DiscordWhat do you want to see for Season 3? Tell us at:Dev Interrupted LinkedInDev Interrupted Twitteremail: conor@linearb.ioSupport the show: Subscribe to our Substack Leave us a review Subscribe on YouTube Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn Offers: Learn about Continuous Merge with gitStream Get your DORA Metrics free forever

Dec 13, 2022 • 37min
It’s Not Open Source, It’s You. Where Open Source Risk Comes From w/ Sonatype
Picture this: an auto manufacturer with no clue what parts are in its supply chain, where those parts come from and no ability to recall those parts if vulnerabilities are discovered.That’s not a reality consumers would accept. So why do organizations (and manufacturers!) tolerate it when it comes to software? On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, Brian Fox, co-founder & CTO, and Stephen Magill, VP of Product Innovation, join us to talk about Sonatype’s State of the Software Supply Chain Report. Listen as Brian and Stephen explain the ins and outs of open source risk management, how companies that aren’t open source maintainers can do a better job protecting themselves and why cybercrime is like “VC funds for the bad guys.” Show Notes8th Annual State of the Software Supply Chain ReportSupport the show: Subscribe to our Substack Leave us a review Subscribe on YouTube Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn Offers: Learn about Continuous Merge with gitStream Get your DORA Metrics free forever

Dec 6, 2022 • 1h 1min
Treating Devs Like Human Beings | A Conversation with Kelly Vaughn, Jean Hsu & Lena Reinhard
Sometimes among all the sprints, the pressure to ship faster, tools to measure lines of code written, it seems like we as an industry forget a simple fact: developers are knowledge workers, not robotsTo remind us what it means to be a human, we invited some of the most empathetic engineering leaders we know to Interact and asked them to sit on a panel together. The conversation that followed is one of the most insightful and relevant conversations we've heard all year. Whether you are an IC, manager or manager of managers, we promise this conversation will help you become a more empathetic leader and colleague. Today's episode of Dev Interrupted features Kelly Vaughn, Director of Engineering at Spot AI; Jean Hsu, VP of Engineering at Range; and Lena Reinhard, an engineering leadership coach. Show NotesWatch all of Interact on the Dev Interrupted YouTube channelSupport the show: Subscribe to our Substack Leave us a review Subscribe on YouTube Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn Offers: Learn about Continuous Merge with gitStream Get your DORA Metrics free forever

Nov 29, 2022 • 52min
Gene Kim + The Rise and Fall of DevOps | Conversations from DevOps Enterprise Summit
Dev Interrupted takes a detour to Vegas! In a first for the show, we took the podcast on the road to attend the DevOps Enterprise Summit in Las Vegas. While at DOES, we had the pleasure of interviewing Gene Kim, famed researcher and author of "The Phoenix Project" and "Accelerate". Also attending DOES were friends of the podcast Bryan and Dana Finster, whose presentation on the Rise and Fall of DevOps inspired us to invite them onto the pod.Listen to this two-part episode as Gene breaks down all things DevOps past, present and future, while the Finsters present their case for platform teams, project ownership and how to win the trust that binds good dev teams. Show NotesRecap all of DevOps Enterprise Summit 2022, December 6th-8thSupport the show: Subscribe to our Substack Leave us a review Subscribe on YouTube Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn Offers: Learn about Continuous Merge with gitStream Get your DORA Metrics free forever