

Dev Interrupted
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Dev Interrupted is the go-to podcast for software engineering leadership. Each week, hosts Andrew Zigler, Ben Lloyd Pearson, and Dan Lines sit down with industry experts to explore the strategies, struggles, and stories behind high-performing software teams. Paired with weekly industry news coverage, the conversations dive deep into the real challenges that define excellence in modern tech.
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May 2, 2023 • 42min
Upskilling Your Eng Team: The Problem with the Modern Approach to Learning | Skiller Whale's Hywel Carver
Do our personal learning preferences actually affect how well we learn? And what makes learning new skills - like a programming language - so hard in the first place? On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, we’re joined by Hywel Carver, founder & CEO at Skiller Whale. An expert in the principles and practices behind learning and knowledge retention, Hywel walks us through the best learning techniques for engineers. He also discusses how engineering leaders can upskill their teams without hiring additional staff, why modern approaches to learning often fall short (think YouTube), and why there is no evidence to support the idea that personal learning styles, such as visual or kinesthetic, impact learning outcomes.Show Notes:Register for our summer series! Check out Skiller WhaleListen to Skiller Whale's podcast: The Pod Presents: Primarily Context-BasedSupport the show: Subscribe to our Substack Leave us a review Subscribe on YouTube Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn Offers: Learn about Continuous Merge with gitStream Get your DORA Metrics free forever

Apr 25, 2023 • 39min
Redefining Incident Response: Insights from the Chaos Engineer Behind Jeli.io | Nora Jones
If you think your org doesn’t have any incidents, it’s time to change your definition of an incident.This week we’re joined by Nora Jones, Jeli's founder & CEO, to help us make sense of incident analysis and explain why so many incidents go underreported. Before beginning her journey as a founder, Nora helped pioneer chaos engineering at companies like Netflix and Slack where she developed a passion for understanding the intersection of software and people. A stellar engineer, manager & founder, we caught up with Nora on the heels of her keynote address at the LeadDev conference in New York. Show Notes:Register for our summer series! Howie: The Post-Incident GuideJeli's website: https://www.jeli.io/Support the show: Subscribe to our Substack Leave us a review Subscribe on YouTube Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn Offers: Learn about Continuous Merge with gitStream Get your DORA Metrics free forever

Apr 18, 2023 • 35min
Coding Your Dreams into Reality: Lessons from an Engineer turned Entrepreneur | ButterCMS Jake Lumetta
Jake Lumetta, Founder & CEO of ButterCMS, discusses practical advice for engineers-turned-entrepreneurs, knowing when to step away from coding, the challenges of building a B2C startup, and the benefits of B2B product development.

Apr 11, 2023 • 46min
Surviving SVB's Collapse & Outsmarting Uber | Kyte's Nick Cobb
It hasn't been smooth sailing for startups this year. As this week's guest Nick Cobb puts it "You can add bank runs to the list of things founders have to deal with." Of course, it hasn't been easy going for engineering leaders either. That's why Nick, the VP of Engineering & Head of Product at Kyte, sat down with us to discuss how to build an engineering culture with a bias toward action, why he deleted his team's staging environment, and what it takes to outmaneuver his former employer, Uber. An angel investor, Nick also touches on the aftershocks of the SVB crash and its lasting effects on the startup community.Recorded live at LeadDev New York, this episode is a must-listen for engineering leaders who want to place product innovation in the driver's seat of their engineering org.Show Notes:Watch this episode on Youtube!Support the show: Subscribe to our Substack Leave us a review Subscribe on YouTube Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn Offers: Learn about Continuous Merge with gitStream Get your DORA Metrics free forever

Apr 4, 2023 • 29min
The Art of Community Building | Postman's Joyce Lin
What does building an engaged community really mean for your business? When we look at a company like Postman with over 20 million active users and one of the most passionate groups of evangelizers in tech, we find that Postman's story is really a story of community success. In fact, after product-market fit, community has become a must-have for any startup looking to survive. But community building is a tricky thing, so where and how do you start? On this week's episode of Dev Interrupted, listen as Joyce Lin, Head of Developer Relations at Postman, shares the secrets and behind-the-scenes lessons learned from building one of the most successful communities in tech. Joyce is also an expert TikToker, diving into its algorithm, its relevance for developers, and whether or not engineering leaders should devote attention to building a community on the platform. Show Notes:Joyce's TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@joycejetsonSupport the show: Subscribe to our Substack Leave us a review Subscribe on YouTube Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn Offers: Learn about Continuous Merge with gitStream Get your DORA Metrics free forever

Mar 28, 2023 • 36min
DevOps is the Philosophy, Platform is the Practice | Humanitec's Kaspar von Grünberg
"DevOps is dead."Well, not exactly. But the DevOps methodology of "you build it, you run it" has been failing development teams for years.On this week's episode of Dev Interrupted, we sit down with Kaspar von Grünberg, founder & CEO of Humanitec. Listen as Kaspar explains the significant cognitive load placed on developers as a result of DevOps practices, how that has caused software engineering to be the only industry since Medieval times not to drive towards specialization, and why platform engineers provide a solution to the outdated DevOps model.Show Notes:What is platform engineering?Implementing Dynamic Configuration Management with Score and HumanitecAttend PlatformCon 2023 June 8th and 9thSupport the show: Subscribe to our Substack Leave us a review Subscribe on YouTube Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn Offers: Learn about Continuous Merge with gitStream Get your DORA Metrics free forever

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Mar 21, 2023 • 48min
Team Topologies: Organizing Business & Technology Teams | Authors Matthew Skelton & Manuel Pais
Effective software teams are essential for any organization to deliver value continuously and sustainably. But how do you build the best team organization for your specific goals, culture, and needs?That's the question posed by authors Matthew Skelton and Manuel Pais in their highly-acclaimed book, Team Topologies: Organizing Business and Technology Teams for Fast Flow.On this week's episode of Dev Interrupted, we revisit Dan's 2021 conversation with Matthew and Manuel. Since first airing, their book has received broad recognition for its step-by-step advice, approach to team patterns and interactions, and compelling analysis of the communication pathways that lead to organizational success. We think this episode is as relevant today as it was when it was released - and we hope you agree!Show Notes:Learn more at teamtopologies.comCheck out the Team Topologies Academy: https://academy.teamtopologies.comSupport the show: Subscribe to our Substack Leave us a review Subscribe on YouTube Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn Offers: Learn about Continuous Merge with gitStream Get your DORA Metrics free forever

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Mar 14, 2023 • 28min
Developer Experience: It’s Time to Start Complaining | Gradle's Justin Reock
It's time to make noise. Developers need to take back their happiness and their productivity. But where should they start? On this week's episode of Dev Interrupted, we're joined by Justin Reock, Field CTO and Chief Evangelist at Gradle. With a mission to mitigate the toil, friction, and frustration felt by so many developers, Justin has become a tireless advocate of Developer Productivity Engineering. Listen as Justin explains DPE by exploring the connections between productivity, developer experience, and joy. Show Notes:Gradle's Developer Productivity Engineering HandbookRead: Is Developer Productivity Engineering the Next Big Thing in Software?DPE SummitSupport the show: Subscribe to our Substack Leave us a review Subscribe on YouTube Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn Offers: Learn about Continuous Merge with gitStream Get your DORA Metrics free forever

Mar 7, 2023 • 40min
Reinventing IBM: DevSecOps, AI, Quantum Computing | Rosalind Radcliffe
No company is immune to transformation, not even one with as storied a history as IBM. This week on Dev Interrupted, Rosalind Radcliffe, the CIO DevSecOps CTO at IBM, joins us to chat about how one of tech's greatest legacy companies is positioning itself for the future. Rosalind shares what it means to be named an IBM Fellow, her work to bring DevOps and open source to the z/OS environment, and what the future looks like at IBM. [Hint: it involves quantum computing and AI!]Support the show: Subscribe to our Substack Leave us a review Subscribe on YouTube Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn Offers: Learn about Continuous Merge with gitStream Get your DORA Metrics free forever

Feb 28, 2023 • 38min
Solving the Enduring Pain of Authorization | Aserto’s Omri Gazitt
Whether you're at a startup, enterprise, or something in between, authorization and access control are likely major pain points for your team. This week on Dev Interrupted we talk to Omri Gazitt, co-founder and CEO of Aserto. Omri joins us to chat about the future of authorization, how to handle access control on your team, and how to avoid the toil and tech debt often associated with access control. Show NotesFrom Aserto's blog: Why multi-tenant SaaS applications need real access control from day 1Support the show: Subscribe to our Substack Leave us a review Subscribe on YouTube Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn Offers: Learn about Continuous Merge with gitStream Get your DORA Metrics free forever