
Undigital Podcast
A podcast about the intersection of remote work, tech, and life, along with the productivity tips and hacks to help navigate all three.
Latest episodes

Oct 22, 2020 • 52min
012 - Say Goodbye to Quibi and Hello to the Best Thing on Streaming
Jason and Jess talk about the recent iPhone 12/12 Pro review, and why it might be worth upgrading for the cameras alone if your current device is more than a few years old. They also talk streaming services, including the news that Quibi announced it was shutting down. On the other hand, Ted Lasso is not shutting down and is currently the best thing in streaming. It wasn't difficult, but Jason manages to get Jess completely hooked. You should definitely watch it too. On a more practical note, they discuss how to manage time and actually get things done when you don't work in an office and have someone looking over your shoulder all the time. Which iPhone 12 you should buy. Quibi didn't fail because of the pandemic. (It was just bad) Ted Lasso is the best thing on streaming.

Oct 19, 2020 • 31min
011 - Interview with Michael McFall, Co-CEO of Biggby Coffee
Jason interviews Michael McFall, the Co-CEO of the third-largest coffee franchise in the U.S., Biggby Coffee. In addition to talking about what it's like leading a company with hundreds of franchisees, Jason and Michael talk about how Biggby has adapted and met the challenges of the last 8 months. In addition, they talk about what it means to help your team develop a life they love, both inside and outside of work. Michael's book, Grind, has some great insight for any entrepreneur, and Jason asks about how leaders can continue to help their teams expect and pursue perfection, even though everything else seems like chaos. Biggby Coffee Grind (Michael's book) Life You Love Laboratory Michael McFall on LinkedIn

Oct 15, 2020 • 1h 9min
010 - Grab Some Snacks, The iPhone 12 Is Here
Well, we made it ten episodes. Jason and Jess talk about the iPhone Event, and all four of the new iPhone 12 models. First, however, there are important things to cover like whether the “holiday” shaped Resse’s are better than the standard “cups.” (They are.) They also talk about the HomePod Mini, why it's so important to Apple, and whether anyone is going to actually buy a $99 smart speaker when you can get an Echo Dot for $19. Twitter conversation about Reese’s and M&M’s These Strawberry Nut M&Ms are garbage (referred to as PB&J during the episode) Send us your tweets about your favorite snack Jason on twitter (@jasonaten) Jess on twitter (@pingitup) Nature Valley Bag of Granola (Cinnamon) Apple Event Keynote on YouTube HomePod Mini at Apple.com Jason's take on the HomePod Mini iPhone 12 at Apple.com The iPhone 12 is Getting MagSafe Why 5G Isn’t Really a Thing Yet Nomad Base Station Pro Totallee Case Send us your thoughts on twitter or to podcast@29steps.fm about whether or not you should be putting ice in your coffee, or even worse, your wine.

Oct 12, 2020 • 26min
009 - Interview with Aaron Levie, CEO of Box
Jason talks with Aaron Levie, the co-founder and CEO of Box. In addition to some honest conversation about how coping with a pandemic is just hard, they talk about how companies can thrive even in disruptive--and difficult--circumstances. The conversation includes how Box is helping its team deal with working remotely, and what the company is doing to continue taking care of its customers at a time when they need it the most. Finally, Aaron shares some great insights into what other entrepreneurs should be doing right now to take care of their people, their customers, and their community. Aaron on Twitter

Oct 8, 2020 • 1h 34min
008 - The Best Coffee In Northwest Arkansas + Special Guest Shawn Blanc from The Sweet Setup
Jess and Jason talk about the most important thing about working remotely--how to make the perfect cup of coffee. We also talked about how technology can both help us be more productivity, but all that productivity is starting to lead to burnout for a lot of people. Plus, Jason talks with Shawn Blanc from The Sweet Setup about how he researches and figures out the best apps and tools for staying focused and productive. Shawn also talks about combating "dual focus," and why it matters. It was a great conversation and Shawn has a ton of really helpful insight into how to get the most out of the technology we use to stay organized and get work done. Shawn Blanc on Twitter The Sweet Setup Onyx Coffee, the best coffee in Northwest Arkansas (according to Jess) Snappy Ember Coffee Mug at the Apple Store Contigo Travel Coffee Mug Bodum French Press Microsoft is trying to bring back the virtual commute Jason’s interview with Headspace co-founder Andy Puddicombe G Suite is now Google Workspace Ulysses Things Notion Spark Email (A few other great email options that Jason recommends) Brave Browser Apple’s Refurbish Store Will Apple Silicon mean the perfect laptop for remote working?

Oct 5, 2020 • 23min
007 - Interview with Andy Puddicombe, Co-Founder of Headspace
In this special interview episode, Jason talks with Andy Puddicombe, who is the co-founder of Headspace. They talk about Headspace and its unique partnership with Microsoft, as well as how we can all use mindfulness to fight against the burnout and distraction that comes with trying to be productive in this very challenging time. Be sure to check out The Headspace app

Oct 1, 2020 • 34min
006 - The Remote Life of a Corporate YouTuber
We gave Jess the week off (don't worry, she'll be back next week!) so Jason interviewed Andy Owen, who is a video producer and corporate YouTuber (it's a thing, really) for TechSmith. You may be familiar with a few of TechSmith's products like Camtasia and Snagit, and if you are, Andy's a part of the reason why. We talk about what it's like going from working for yourself (remotely) to working in an office, and back to working remotely. That includes setting up your space, managing your time, and a few of the tools you can use to stay productive. Be sure to check out Andy's insightful LinkedIn posts by visiting his profile. Andy also mentioned the Self Control app Camtasia (TechSmith's video editor) TechSmith YouTube channel

Sep 28, 2020 • 43min
005 - Interview: Stephen Robles, AppleInsider Podcast Host
Jason talks with AppleInsider Podcast co-host, Stephen Robles about the latest Apple gadgets, including the new iPad Air and whether it's a worthy replacement for your laptop or desktop. Also, what does the iPad Air mean for the future of the iPad Pro. We also had some conversation about the Apple Watch. We actually recorded this just after Stephen received his Series 6, and before Jason received his so this episode exists in a bit of a time warp. Be sure to listen to Stephen’s review of the Series 6 on the AppleInsider Podcast. You can find Stephen on Twitter @stephenrobles Subscribe to the AppleInsider Podcast on Apple Podcasts Stephen's super-fast podcast editing workflow on the iPad Pro uses Ferritte.

Sep 24, 2020 • 57min
003. All About Screens
Jason and Jess talk about some of the latest efforts by tech companies to make gadgets that are supposed to make us more productive. They also ponder whether anyone really needs a dual screen device like the Microsoft Surface Duo, or a foldable like the Samsung Z Fold 2. Oh, and of course, there’s some follow up on the Apple Watch Series 6, since we apparently can’t have an episode without talking about the Apple Watch. We wrap up the conversation talking about iOS 14, some of its best productivity features—especially widgets. Mostly we can’t decide if they’re awesome, or if the whole idea is just something nice to look at that hasn’t quite realized its own potential. Blue Aluminum Apple Watch Series 6: The 5 Best New Productivity Features in iOS 14 5 Things Coming to iOS 14 that You Should Know You've Been Wearing Your Apple Watch Wrong Widgetsmith Things Spark

Sep 22, 2020 • 23min
Interview with Brian Halligan from HubSpot
In this special interview episode, Jason talks with HubSpot's CEO and Co-Founder, Brian Halligan about how working remotely has affected HubSpot's team as they launch a new product, and stage a major virtual conference. Inbound is one of the most popular marketing events, drawing more than 25,000 people last year to Boston. This year, the event is taking place entirely online, and Jason and Brian talk about what it was like to pull off such a large-scale event, how work is different right now, and what it might look like when we get past the pandemic.