
The Mother Of It All
We are Miranda Rake and Sarah Wheeler, two friends, mothers and professional writers on the parenting beat. The Mother Of It All is a podcast where we dive deep into the culture of modern motherhood. Expect warmth, humor and over-considered takes on hot topics, fresh takes on old ones, expert guests and good times. motherofitall.substack.com
Latest episodes

Nov 18, 2024 • 1h 2min
The State of the Hetero Union Part 1: Sex, Marriage, and 'Big D Desire' with Amanda Montei and Tracy Clark-Flory
In Part 1 of our jam-packed conversation with feminist writers Tracy Clark-Flory and Amanda Montei, Sarah and Miranda attempt to unpack why this has been such a big year for examining sex in hetero-marriage, the specter of patriarchy haunting all of our marital beds, and whether or not good sex is possible anymore in a hetero-marriage. Links:* Amanda Montei’s “Can a Sexless Marriage Be a Happy One? Can a Sexless Marriage Be a Happy One?” in the New York Times Magazine* Liars by Sarah Manguso* All Fours by Miranda July* Tracy on The Endless Repetition of Heterosexuality* Want by Gillian Anderson* Anne Hathaway’s The Idea Of You * Nicole Kidman’s Babygirl* Ester Perel* Tracy Clark-Flory’s fabulous newsletter, TCF Emails and her book, Want Me.* Amanda Montei’s fabulous newsletter, Mad Woman, and her book, Touched Out. Culture Recs:* Lisa Taddeo’s Three Women and the related television series* Brian Jordan Alvarez This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

Nov 11, 2024 • 57min
Who Are Dadfluencers For? with Janet Manley
Writer Janet Manley joins us to break down her recent piece, “Pity the Dadfluencers: Their content is for men, but their audience is all women.” We dig into all of our favorite -isms: sexism, feminism, social media-ism (just roll with it), parasocial relationships, plus Wild Robot, Nightbitch, and what the heck you’re supposed to do with all those baby teeth. Links:* Chelsea Conaboy on The Wild Robot* Arnold of the Ducks* KAFKA'S BABY Janet’s newsletter* The Real Sarah Miller by Sarah Miller* Laurie Stone’s Everything is Personal* Attachments by Lucas Mann, and our interview with Lucas* Drawing Links by Edith Zimmerman* Looking at Picture Books by Mac Barnett and Jon Klassen* Loved and Missed by Susie Boyt This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

Nov 6, 2024 • 27min
Now this is happening
Sarah and Miranda are checking in the morning after the election on what’s going through our minds, how we’re thinking about motherhood and our kids, and whether it’s too soon to do silver linings. With a special appearance from Nellie, three-year-old witch.Links:* Amanda Montei says “It’s not the economy, it’s misogyny.” * Witch podcast on BBC* Seven Year B***h is the today’s soundtrack This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

Oct 28, 2024 • 57min
Is Postpartum Depression Funny? Lauren Lapkus and Nora Fiffer Think It Can Be
Lauren Lapkus, an actor and comedian known for her roles in "Orange is the New Black" and "Crashing," joins writer-director Nora Fiffer, whose film "Another Happy Day" explores postpartum depression. They share hilarious and poignant anecdotes about the chaos of early motherhood and the often-ignored struggles of new moms. The discussion highlights the need for more postpartum stories in Hollywood, the importance of humor amidst the challenges, and how supportive environments can enhance productivity in creative fields.

Oct 21, 2024 • 2min
Keep Halloween Janky with Sarah & Miranda
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit motherofitall.substack.com*This is a paid-subscriber only episode. To become a subscriber, click HERE and sign up for any level of paid membership. P.S. If you subscribe as a “founding member” we’ll send you a snazzy Mother Of It All tote bag. Join us as we hash Halloween out. Do we believe in the Switch Witch? DIY costumes: Y/N? Should Halloween happen at school? Do we have to …

Oct 14, 2024 • 55min
What Every Parent Needs To Understand About School Shootings & Lockdowns with David Riedman
No one wants to think about school shootings. But nearly every day in our country, a gun is fired on a campus. Often, when that happens, entire student bodies are then traumatized by spending hours in lockdown. David Riedman of the K-12 school shooting database — an unparalleled collection of data about school shootings that has been used as a resource by publications like The Economist and New York Times, as well as organizations like the FBI— joins Sarah and Miranda to talk about the thing none of us want to talk about but that we absolutely must: American school’s gun violence problem. Links: * David’s Substack* David’s Podcast* Robin Cogan* https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/16/opinion/gabby-giffords-its-the-guns-its-always-the-guns.html* Violence Prevention Project* Everytown This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

Sep 30, 2024 • 1h 9min
What If We Cared About Care? with Elissa Strauss
What if we considered care to be a sacred practice? What if the everyday tasks of parenting were backtracked by the dramatic score of the British Baking Show? Elissa Strauss, author of When You Care: Unexpected Magic of Caring for Others joins Sarah and Miranda to mull over what it would mean to value care as a society and in our personal lives. We talk about trusting others with your children, why it’s so fraught to admit you like being a parent, alloparents, the Hero’s Journey, and kids singing Lean on Me. Plus, Elissa gives us some free couples therapy!Links* Elissa’s Book, When You Care: The Unexpected Magic of Caring for Others* Elissa Strauss’s Substack, Made with Care* Elissa’s Slate Piece: It’s a Weird Time to Be a Happy Mom* Economist Nancy Folbre* A Thousand and One Movie* The Care Justice Movement* Alloparenting * Rosalynn Carter* Sarah Blaffer HrdyCulture Recs* Young Sheldon* The Golden Spoon This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

Sep 16, 2024 • 1h 9min
The Joy Of Hobbies in Motherhood with Kaitlyn Teer
Author and editor Kaitlyn Teer (you may know her as the editor of Joanna Goddard’s Big Salad newsletter ) joins Sarah and Miranda to chat about how weirdly hard and wonderful it is to have hobbies as a mom, and the unique joy of being new (even bad!) at something. We get into such pressing questions as: What is “contaminated leisure time,” and how can we carve out ‘uncontaminated’ time to explore who we are beyond work and caregiving? If modern motherhood is defined by a sense of pressure to optimize our every decision, what does it mean to chase ‘beginners mind,’ uncertainty, and inefficient uses of time? Are our hobbies an expression of millennial economic dread, and an effort to detach our sense of self-regard from the capitalistic value systems that have left us in the lurch? Are we totally overthinking this? We also touch on: Kaitlyn’s amazing hair, Doggy Land, and Sarah’s recent swimming pool cannonball-ing achievements. Plus culture recs, moving as a mom (hard!), and more. This episode is sponsored by Freeya, a marketplace for free stuff. Links* Anne Helen Petersen on quality leisure time vs. ‘contaminated leisure time’ * Follow Kaitlyn on Instagram* Kaitlyn Teer on Mountain Biking In New Motherhood* ‘Popsicles Can’t Fix This New Heat’, Kaitlyn Teer over at Electric Lit* Big Salad, Joanna Goddard’s newsletter (edited by Kaitlyn!)* Digital Minimalism by Cal Newport* The Home Place: Memoirs of a Colored Man’s Love Affair with Nature by J. Drew Lanham * Better Living Through Birding: Notes from a Black Man in the Natural World By Christian Cooper* Hike Clerb* Family-oriented family (brene brown pod— sarah can you add?)* Crayola Air-Dry Clay & how to make a clay flower frog* Doggy Lands affirmations* Madwoman by Chelsea Bieker * Skull King This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

Sep 5, 2024 • 3min
Back To School, 'Nightbitch' & Necessary Losses with Sarah & Miranda
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit motherofitall.substack.comSarah and Miranda check in on Miranda’s daughter’s very first day of big kid school (even though she claims she’s “still little”), watch the just-dropped Nightbitch trailer in real time, discuss Sarah’s impending move after 15 years in the same apartment, and talk hetero-exceptionalism and Sarah Manguso’s “Liars,” family camp and “Get S**t Done Days.”Links:* Nightbitch Trailer* Necessary Losses by Judith Viorst* How to Manage Back to School Feelings by Sarah* Liars by Sarah Manguso* Tracy Clark-Floryon hetero-exceptionalism* Kathryn Jezer-Morton on affirmation culture in Brooding* Female Friends Spend Raucous Night Validating the S**t Out of Each Other in the Onion* Berenstain Bears Moving Day

Sep 2, 2024 • 1h 18min
Children's Rights, 'Adultism' & Parenting With Author Eloise Rickman
We are thrilled to kick off season 2(!) with a bang in the form of a meaty, rich conversation with Eloise Rickman, author of It’s Not Fair: Why It’s Time For A Grown-Up Conversation About How Adults Treat Children. We hadn’t thought about children’s rights much before reading Eloise’s book (have you?) and now it’s all we want to think about. What are children’s rights? How can we think about them in the context of parenting? What is adultism? Should kids vote? What even is a child and who gets to decide? Why hasn’t the U.S. ratified the UN Convention on the Rights Of The Child? (anyone, anyone?) If it’s our goal to respect the rights of our children at all times, how do we get our kids to go to bed?Also: Random TMI about Sarah & Miranda’s exercise habits. Tune in, and share your thoughts below. Links: * It’s Not Fair: Why It’s Time For A Grown-Up Conversation About How Adults Treat Children. * The UN Convention on the Rights Of The Child* Download a poster of the CRC here This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe