
Wade Center
The Wade Center Podcast features interviews and discussions with scholars and figures related to Wade Center and our authors: C.S. Lewis, J.R.R. Tolkien, Dorothy L. Sayers, George MacDonald, G.K. Chesterton, Owen Barfield, and Charles Williams.
Latest episodes

Apr 14, 2025 • 39min
Books Worth (re)Reading, Part 2
Dive into the world of beloved books that transform our understanding of characters and narratives! The hosts share listener favorites while exploring how rereading can reshape personal growth. Discover the profound themes of compassion and redemption in works by Marilynne Robinson and Nouwen. Unpack the philosophical debates between Freud and C.S. Lewis, and delve into Chesterton's intriguing tale that challenges perspectives on life and motivation. This lively discussion reveals the timeless magic of literature.

Mar 4, 2025 • 30min
C.S. Lewis and Christian Witness w/ President Philip Ryken
Millions know him as a novelist and an Oxford Don, but C.S. Lewis's most lasting impact may be his role model as a Christian witness and evangelist. President of Wheaton College, Dr. Philip Ryken joins co-hosts Dr. Jim Beitler and Aaron Hill to explore C.S. Lewis's views about the witness of Scripture and what he can teach us about our own approach to Christian witness. How did Lewis approach Scripture, doctrine, and evangelism and how might that inform our own efforts to bear witness to the truth?

Feb 3, 2025 • 49min
Books Worth (re)Reading, Part 1
Dive into a celebration of beloved books, starting with C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien, as the hosts reflect on their profound impact on personal growth and worldview. Explore themes like creation, faith, and environmental stewardship, while also delving into how literature can facilitate healing and resilience. The discussion uncovers the interconnectedness of forgiveness and community responsibility, highlighted by insights from iconic texts such as 'The Great Divorce.' Listeners are encouraged to share their own transformative literary experiences.

Jan 6, 2025 • 37min
The Last Romantic w/ Dr. Jeffrey Barbeau
Sometimes the best way to understand an author is by exploring their conversation partners? Who are they responding to? In his recent Hansen lectures—now released in book form through IVP as The Last Romantic—Dr. Jeffrey Barbeau explores the ways in which C.S. Lewis is indebted to, influenced by, and fulfills the aspirations of Romantic authors such as Wordsworth, Coleridge, and even Schleiermacher. Join Dr. Jim Beitler, Director of the Marion E. Wade Center, and co-host Aaron Hill as they sit down with Dr. Jeffrey Barbeau to discuss how Lewis is The Last Romantic and how seeing him through this literary light can help us understand not just Lewis's writings but his legacy and applicability to modern life.

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Dec 9, 2024 • 42min
The Mythmakers w/ John Hendrix
Award-winning author and illustrator John Hendrix joins the discussion, bringing his expertise from teaching at Washington University. He dives into the profound friendship between C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien and how it inspired his graphic novel. Hendrix shares insights on the collaborative creative process, exploring themes of loss and community feedback. The conversation also touches on illustrating Christian themes and the artistic dimensions of Jesus' parables, enriching our understanding of narrative and myth.

Nov 11, 2024 • 35min
This Homeward Ache w/ Amy Baik Lee
In our anxiety-ridden age, we are all seeking a home where we feel safe, loved, and accepted. But what happens if no place on earth and no moment in time satisfies your deepest longings for home and community? Join Dr. Jim Beitler, Director of the Marion E. Wade Center, and co-host Aaron Hill as they connect with Amy Baik Lee, author of This Homeward Ache. Explore what C.S. Lewis, J.R.R. Tolkien, and George MacDonald might teach us about the difference between home-sickness, nostalgia, and "this homeward ache;" how we should respond to Sehnsucht; and Clyde S. Kilby's resolutions for a life well-lived.

Oct 7, 2024 • 40min
The Wilderking Trilogy w/ Jonathan Rodgers
We're back! Join Dr. Jim Beitler, Director of the Marion E. Wade Center, and co-host Aaron Hill as they connect with Jonathan Rodgers, author of The Wilderking Trilogy and host of the celebrated podcast, The Habit. Recently republished by our friends over at The Rabbit Room, Jim and Aaron discuss the first novel in Rodger's Wilderking trilogy, The Bark of the Bog Owl. Learn how to be a writer even if you don't feel like one, how to accept and embrace God's plan (and timing) for your life, and how Wade Center authors such as C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien inspired and helped shape Rodger's own fantasy stories.

Oct 7, 2024 • 44min
Listening to Creation w/ Dr. Kristen Page
We're back! Join Dr. Jim Beitler, Director of the Marion E. Wade Center, and co-host Aaron Hill as they sit down with Dr. Kristen L. Page to discuss everything from how C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien portrayed ecosystems and environmentalism in The Chronicles of Narnia to The Lord of the Rings, to how studying ecology can help us understand our place in the order of Creation, to Dr. Page's recent Hansen lectures published as the book, The Wonders of Creation. Don't forget to check out Dr. Page's new podcast "about the stories we hear from the landscapes around us" called Listen Here.

Oct 7, 2024 • 1h 5min
Descent of the Dove w/ Dr. Matt Milliner
We're back! In our first new episode of Season 7, Dr. Jim Beitler, Director of the Marion E. Wade Center, and co-host Aaron Hill sit down for a jovial and wide-ranging discussion with Dr. Matthew J. Milliner. Topics ranges from one of Charles William's most praised works, The Descent of the Dove, to Dr. Milliner's recent book The Everlasting People: G.K. Chesterton and the First Nations, and the dangers of experimenting and re-inventing Christianity as a spiritual explorer.

Jun 28, 2024 • 47min
The Rhetoric of Lewis and Sayers w/ Dr. Jim Beitler (Archives)
To celebrate the start of the Wade Center's new Director, Dr. Jim Beitler (Professor of English) we decided to re-release an archival episode recorded and released back in July 2019. 'Rhetoric’ is often a byword for hollow or negative speech. In truth, rhetoric is the art of persuasion. This week, Dr. Jim Beitler discusses his new book, Seasoned Speech: Rhetoric in the Life of the Church. Of the five figures featured in Beitler’s book, we discuss the rhetoric of C.S. Lewis and Dorothy L. Sayers. What can we learn from their example, and how can properly “seasoned speech” assist us in persuasively communicating the truth of the gospel?
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