
Tax Smart Real Estate Investors Podcast
The Tax Smart Real Estate Investors Podcast is a show that focuses on tax, accounting, and finance tips for real estate investors and business owners. We bring on guests to talk through complex topics and we break it down into bite-sized chunks of knowledge for our listeners.
Our episodes generally run 30-60 minutes of no-nonsense, hard-hitting information. We know your time is valuable so our goal is to save you thousands of dollars per episode.
Hall CPA, PLLC is a CPA firm that exclusively serves real estate investors and real estate business owners. We work with syndicators and developers closing multi-million dollar deals, as well as small investors building a portfolio from scratch.
Check us out at www.TheRealEstateCPA.com/Podcast and www.TaxSmartInvestors.com/Insiders for more free content and information.
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Latest episodes

Jun 15, 2021 • 18min
OA 02: How Understanding Preferred Returns Can Help You Avoid Unfavorable Tax Consequences
In this second episode of our series on operating agreements, Thomas is again joined by Kaylyn Deaver, CPA, a Tax Manager here at The Real Estate CPA! Thomas and Kaylyn discuss the ins and outs of preferred returns. If you haven't listened to OA 01, you should check that out first!
Join our Facebook group, the one-stop-shop for real estate investors to learn about tax strategy and stay up to date on changing tax laws:
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The Tax Smart Real Estate Investors podcast is for general information purposes only and is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, tax, legal, or accounting advice. Information on the podcast may not constitute the most up-to-date legal or other information. No reader, user, or listener of this podcast should act or refrain from acting on the basis of information on this podcast without first seeking legal and tax advice from counsel in the relevant jurisdiction. Only your individual attorney and tax advisor can provide assurances that the information contained herein – and your interpretation of it – is applicable or appropriate to your particular situation. Use of, and access to, this podcast or any of the links or resources contained or mentioned within the podcast show and show notes do not create a relationship between the reader, user, or listener and podcast hosts, contributors, or guests.
Always consult your own tax, legal, and accounting advisors before engaging in any transaction.

Jun 8, 2021 • 24min
OA 01: Aligning the Tax Sections of Operating Agreements with Your Intentions with Kaylyn Deaver CPA
In this episode, Thomas is joined by Kaylyn Deaver, CPA, a Tax Manager here at The Real Estate CPA! We will discuss operating agreements, specifically the tax components of operating agreements and why it's important that you have your CPA involved in the creation and review of the agreement.
Join our Facebook group, the one-stop-shop for real estate investors to learn about tax strategy and stay up to date on changing tax laws:
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For an initial consultation from Hall CPA, PLLC visit www.therealestatecpa.com/become-client
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The Tax Smart Real Estate Investors podcast is for general information purposes only and is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, tax, legal, or accounting advice. Information on the podcast may not constitute the most up-to-date legal or other information. No reader, user, or listener of this podcast should act or refrain from acting on the basis of information on this podcast without first seeking legal and tax advice from counsel in the relevant jurisdiction. Only your individual attorney and tax advisor can provide assurances that the information contained herein – and your interpretation of it – is applicable or appropriate to your particular situation. Use of, and access to, this podcast or any of the links or resources contained or mentioned within the podcast show and show notes do not create a relationship between the reader, user, or listener and podcast hosts, contributors, or guests.
Always consult your own tax, legal, and accounting advisors before engaging in any transaction.

Jun 1, 2021 • 8min
146. How Business Owners Can Avoid the Self-Rental Rules & Use Rental Losses Against Active Income
In today's episode, Thomas discusses how the self-rental rules impact business owners and self-employed professionals and how to avoid them in order to use rental losses against non-passive income
Join our Facebook group, the one-stop-shop for real estate investors to learn about tax strategy and stay up to date on changing tax laws:
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The Tax Smart Real Estate Investors podcast is for general information purposes only and is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, tax, legal, or accounting advice. Information on the podcast may not constitute the most up-to-date legal or other information. No reader, user, or listener of this podcast should act or refrain from acting on the basis of information on this podcast without first seeking legal and tax advice from counsel in the relevant jurisdiction. Only your individual attorney and tax advisor can provide assurances that the information contained herein – and your interpretation of it – is applicable or appropriate to your particular situation. Use of, and access to, this podcast or any of the links or resources contained or mentioned within the podcast show and show notes do not create a relationship between the reader, user, or listener and podcast hosts, contributors, or guests.
Always consult your own tax, legal, and accounting advisors before engaging in any transaction.

May 25, 2021 • 18min
145. Biden's Proposed Tax Changes and How They Might Cause Real Estate Investors to Pay More Taxes
Brandon and Thomas recorded this episode together live in Denver as we have been receiving many questions from clients about the proposed Biden tax changes.
It's important to note that these changes are currently being negotiated in Congress - we don't have a formal bill yet, but we're expecting one in June/July 2021. We will keep you updated on the proposed changes and new updates!
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The Tax Smart Real Estate Investors podcast is for general information purposes only and is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, tax, legal, or accounting advice. Information on the podcast may not constitute the most up-to-date legal or other information. No reader, user, or listener of this podcast should act or refrain from acting on the basis of information on this podcast without first seeking legal and tax advice from counsel in the relevant jurisdiction. Only your individual attorney and tax advisor can provide assurances that the information contained herein – and your interpretation of it – is applicable or appropriate to your particular situation. Use of, and access to, this podcast or any of the links or resources contained or mentioned within the podcast show and show notes do not create a relationship between the reader, user, or listener and podcast hosts, contributors, or guests.
Always consult your own tax, legal, and accounting advisors before engaging in any transaction.

May 18, 2021 • 37min
STR 03: How to Stay Clear of Uncle Sam with Must-Know Tax Court Cases for Short-Term Rentals
In this episode, Brandon and Thomas explore various tax court cases that involve short-term rental properties and their key the take aways,
Short-term rentals are important because many taxpayers want to offset their W2/active/ordinary/nonpassive income with real estate losses. If done properly, short-term rentals can offset directly against this ordinary income without the real estate professional status.
Join our Facebook group, the one-stop-shop for real estate investors to learn about tax strategy and stay up to date on changing tax laws:
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For an initial consultation from Hall CPA, PLLC visit www.therealestatecpa.com/become-client
Subscribe to our YouTube channel: www.youtube.com/c/therealestatecpa
The Tax Smart Real Estate Investors podcast is for general information purposes only and is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, tax, legal, or accounting advice. Information on the podcast may not constitute the most up-to-date legal or other information. No reader, user, or listener of this podcast should act or refrain from acting on the basis of information on this podcast without first seeking legal and tax advice from counsel in the relevant jurisdiction. Only your individual attorney and tax advisor can provide assurances that the information contained herein – and your interpretation of it – is applicable or appropriate to your particular situation. Use of, and access to, this podcast or any of the links or resources contained or mentioned within the podcast show and show notes do not create a relationship between the reader, user, or listener and podcast hosts, contributors, or guests.
Always consult your own tax, legal, and accounting advisors before engaging in any transaction.

May 11, 2021 • 30min
STR 02: The Details on Using Short-Term Rentals Losses to Reduce Active Income & Technical Details
This is the second episode in our series of episodes to unpack and clarify the tax loophole of short-term rentals. In this episode, Brandon and Thomas discuss the technical aspects of what you need to understand including the code sections, material participation, where this activity falls on your tax return, and several other things.
Short-term rentals are important because many taxpayers want to offset their W2/active/ordinary/nonpassive income with real estate losses. If done properly, short-term rentals can offset directly against this ordinary income without the real estate professional status.
Join our Facebook group, the one-stop-shop for real estate investors to learn about tax strategy and stay up to date on changing tax laws:
www.facebook.com/groups/taxsmartinvestors
For an initial consultation from Hall CPA, PLLC visit www.therealestatecpa.com/become-client
Subscribe to our YouTube channel: www.youtube.com/c/therealestatecpa
The Tax Smart Real Estate Investors podcast is for general information purposes only and is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, tax, legal, or accounting advice. Information on the podcast may not constitute the most up-to-date legal or other information. No reader, user, or listener of this podcast should act or refrain from acting on the basis of information on this podcast without first seeking legal and tax advice from counsel in the relevant jurisdiction. Only your individual attorney and tax advisor can provide assurances that the information contained herein – and your interpretation of it – is applicable or appropriate to your particular situation. Use of, and access to, this podcast or any of the links or resources contained or mentioned within the podcast show and show notes do not create a relationship between the reader, user, or listener and podcast hosts, contributors, or guests.
Always consult your own tax, legal, and accounting advisors before engaging in any transaction.

May 4, 2021 • 21min
STR 01: How The Short-Term Rental Loophole Can Save You Thousands in Taxes
This is the first episode in our series of episodes to unpack and clarify the tax loophole of short-term rentals. Brandon Hall and Thomas Castelli will walk through all aspects of investing in short-term rentals to reduce your tax liability.
Short-term rentals are important because many taxpayers want to offset their W2/active/ordinary/nonpassive income with real estate losses. If done properly, short-term rentals can offset directly against this ordinary income without the real estate professional status.
Join our Facebook group, the one-stop-shop for real estate investors to learn about tax strategy and stay up to date on changing tax laws:
www.facebook.com/groups/taxsmartinvestors
For an initial consultation from Hall CPA, PLLC visit www.therealestatecpa.com/become-client
Subscribe to our YouTube channel: www.youtube.com/c/therealestatecpa
The Tax Smart Real Estate Investors podcast is for general information purposes only and is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, tax, legal, or accounting advice. Information on the podcast may not constitute the most up-to-date legal or other information. No reader, user, or listener of this podcast should act or refrain from acting on the basis of information on this podcast without first seeking legal and tax advice from counsel in the relevant jurisdiction. Only your individual attorney and tax advisor can provide assurances that the information contained herein – and your interpretation of it – is applicable or appropriate to your particular situation. Use of, and access to, this podcast or any of the links or resources contained or mentioned within the podcast show and show notes do not create a relationship between the reader, user, or listener and podcast hosts, contributors, or guests.
Always consult your own tax, legal, and accounting advisors before engaging in any transaction.

Apr 27, 2021 • 41min
144. Why Operational Excellence Will Be Crucial Over the Next Cycle with JC Castillo & Paul Peebles
Brandon and Thomas are joined by JC Castillo of Velo Residential and Paul Peebles of Old Capital Lending. We discuss the current state of the multifamily market, the lending environment, and why operational excellence will be key to success for multifamily owners and operators over the next 10 years.
Learn more about JC and his work: https://www.veloresidential.com/
Learn more about Paul and his work: https://oldcapitallending.com/
Make sure you check out the Operate for Profit Podcast and the Old Capital Podcast to hear more from JC and Paul!
Join our Facebook group, the one-stop-shop for real estate investors to learn about tax strategy and stay up to date on changing tax laws:
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For an initial consultation from Hall CPA, PLLC visit www.therealestatecpa.com/become-client
Subscribe to our YouTube channel: www.youtube.com/c/therealestatecpa
The Tax Smart Real Estate Investors podcast is for general information purposes only and is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, tax, legal, or accounting advice. Information on the podcast may not constitute the most up-to-date legal or other information. No reader, user, or listener of this podcast should act or refrain from acting on the basis of information on this podcast without first seeking legal and tax advice from counsel in the relevant jurisdiction. Only your individual attorney and tax advisor can provide assurances that the information contained herein – and your interpretation of it – is applicable or appropriate to your particular situation. Use of, and access to, this podcast or any of the links or resources contained or mentioned within the podcast show and show notes do not create a relationship between the reader, user, or listener and podcast hosts, contributors, or guests.
Always consult your own tax, legal, and accounting advisors before engaging in any transaction.

Apr 20, 2021 • 26min
REPS 04: How the IRS Audits the Real Estate Professional Status & What to Do to Protect Yourself
By default, rental losses are passive. They can only offset other passive income. Qualifying as a real estate professional allows you to take rental losses against W2 or active business income.
This episode is about IRS Audits of REPS. What is their perspective and lens they're looking through? What are they looking to see? How do you protect yourself?
If you haven't already listened to REPS 03, check it out first. This is the final episode in this series.
Get the REPS Time Log here: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1c…/edit?usp=sharing
Join our Facebook group, the one-stop-shop for real estate investors to learn about tax strategy and stay up to date on changing tax laws:
www.facebook.com/groups/taxsmartinvestors
For an initial consultation from Hall CPA, PLLC visit www.therealestatecpa.com/become-client
Subscribe to our YouTube channel: www.youtube.com/c/therealestatecpa
The Tax Smart Real Estate Investors podcast is for general information purposes only and is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, tax, legal, or accounting advice. Information on the podcast may not constitute the most up-to-date legal or other information. No reader, user, or listener of this podcast should act or refrain from acting on the basis of information on this podcast without first seeking legal and tax advice from counsel in the relevant jurisdiction. Only your individual attorney and tax advisor can provide assurances that the information contained herein – and your interpretation of it – is applicable or appropriate to your particular situation. Use of, and access to, this podcast or any of the links or resources contained or mentioned within the podcast show and show notes do not create a relationship between the reader, user, or listener and podcast hosts, contributors, or guests.
Always consult your own tax, legal, and accounting advisors before engaging in any transaction.

Apr 13, 2021 • 43min
REPS 03: Strategies to Qualify as a Real Estate Professional & Busting the Myths of the Internet
By default, rental losses are passive. They can only offset other passive income. Qualifying as a real estate professional allows you to take rental losses against W2 or active business income.
Brandon and Thomas want to set the record straight and tell people what they need to hear to win IRS audits. Some of the myths we discuss are things that we've heard other practitioners or educators tell their clients.
If you haven't already listened to REPS 02, check it out first. This is the third episode in a four-part series.
Get the REPS Time Log here: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1c…/edit?usp=sharing
Join our Facebook group, the one-stop-shop for real estate investors to learn about tax strategy and stay up to date on changing tax laws:
www.facebook.com/groups/taxsmartinvestors
For an initial consultation from Hall CPA, PLLC visit www.therealestatecpa.com/become-client
Subscribe to our YouTube channel: www.youtube.com/c/therealestatecpa
The Tax Smart Real Estate Investors podcast is for general information purposes only and is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, tax, legal, or accounting advice. Information on the podcast may not constitute the most up-to-date legal or other information. No reader, user, or listener of this podcast should act or refrain from acting on the basis of information on this podcast without first seeking legal and tax advice from counsel in the relevant jurisdiction. Only your individual attorney and tax advisor can provide assurances that the information contained herein – and your interpretation of it – is applicable or appropriate to your particular situation. Use of, and access to, this podcast or any of the links or resources contained or mentioned within the podcast show and show notes do not create a relationship between the reader, user, or listener and podcast hosts, contributors, or guests.
Always consult your own tax, legal, and accounting advisors before engaging in any transaction.