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Jeff Gross
Join Jeff Gross in his conversations with the best poker players and industry leaders to learn what sets them apart from the rest.
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May 27, 2019 • 1h 34min
Rob Yong - Dusk Till Dawn Owner & High Stakes Poker Player

May 27, 2019 • 1h 46min
Jaime Staples - Poker Player & Twitch Streamer

May 27, 2019 • 59min
Ari Meisel - Founder of Less Doing

May 27, 2019 • 1h 10min
Bill Perkins - Founder of ThirstLounge

May 27, 2019 • 51min
Antonio Esfandiari - $27,710,942 in Live Earnings Professional Poker Player

May 27, 2019 • 2h 6min
Brian Rast - $21,562,431 in Live Earnings
In this episode, Brian Rast, professional poker player, scientist, cycler, and philosopher, talks about how he got into poker while attending Stanford College. Jeff and Brian discuss his biggest wins, favorite games, and how solvers have changed the landscape in poker. Listen in to hear Brian share his thoughts on bitcoin, Burning Man, and meeting his Brazilian wife – and listen in as he gives Jeff some pro tips.
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Time Stamped Show Notes:
01:00 – Introducing Brian, a tournament and cash game pro, and his background
02:00 – He went to Stanford and started playing poker there; he was a math major but dropped out
03:15 – He played poker for 2 years in college and has played ever since for the last 15 years; he started as a cash game player and started tournaments 5-6 years ago
04:40 – His parents wanted him to finish school and graduate; his dad started learning poker and his mom was less accepting of poker at the beginning
07:00 – The most he played was when he dropped out of school; he was playing 80-100 hours a week
07:45 – He plays every day during the WSOP and less for the other 10 months out of the year; he has great endurance, his longest is about 50-52 hours
09:00 – Poker in Macau
09:30 – In the U.S. people gamble in passing, on their way to something else; in Macau people arrive at 10am with tea and hit it for 24 hours straight
10:02 – In Macau he would regularly play 24-40 hour sessions
10:30 – The bicycle ride; he has detailed information about the bike bets on his blog
11:55 – He had no cycling experience and had to complete the ride from Vegas to LA in 48 hours without drafting or a recumbent bike; he went into 25mph winds at one point
14:15 – Brian’s biggest wins; He’s made over $20 million in lifetime earnings and is number one all-time in California
14:35 – He’s won the Player’s Championship $50,000 twice; he probably won’t play many more tournaments where he can win as much as he has
16:00 – He’s been playing poker since 2003 and has traveled little for poker; he didn’t have many results until 2011
18:00 – Playing tournaments and cash games gave him a ton of experience; people’s ability to study solvers has changed the no-limit hold ‘em game at the top
20:00 -He’s used solvers off and on but isn’t putting in the same work as the other guys; he likes the mixed game and understands that everyone makes mistakes
22:00 – The games Brian loves
22:50 – He loves no-limit hold ‘em; he got into mixed games because he liked learning and wanted to be in on the action near home in Vegas
24:30 – He’s more of a cash player, he’s not a tournament player anymore; he’s never liked travelling for tournaments
26:38 – Tournaments are more exciting even if cash games profit more; he hasn’t burnt out on poker and still loves it
28:00 – He loves the pressure and competition in poker; it’s what keeps him coming back
31:50 – The best session he played was in Macau; he played with super-rich guys and heavy-hitters in the poker world and the pot winner would show their hand
34:24 – He played hot, bluffed a lot, and everything worked; he was known as the guy that got white people kicked out of Macau
37:30 – There are many cash players who are great and unknown because they don’t play tournaments
38:30 – Brian’s thoughts on crypto-currency
38:53 – He recommends listening to Murad Mahmudov’s interview on the Off the Chain Podcast titled The Ultimate Bitcoin Argument
39:40 – He believes bitcoin is about to become an official global money; you must invest your money or else it depreciates, bitcoin doesn’t inflate or depreciate
42:30 – It does gold better than gold; it’ll work as long as people believe in it as a money
43:50 – People like it in poker to transfer large sums quickly; bitcoin makes sense to Brian as a long-term investment with some disposable income
53:15 – Brian’s Burning Man experience
53:30 – He thinks Burning Man is an awesome, unique experience; you can find whatever you want there whether it’s music and partying or art and spirituality
54:45 – He loves techno music, art, and principles of Burning Man; Jeff met his wife at Burning Man
57:10 – Brian’s biggest motivators: His family and his wife
57:25 – He loves his wife and what she’s done to make it work; he’s learned to be a father to his step-son with his wife’s help
59:00 – Now his dream is to help his son realize his dreams; he never thought he’d be that way with another person
59:50 – His relationship has made him better and helps hold him accountable; self-improvement is a constant thing with focus, meditation, and learning
01:01:00 – Both Jeff and Brian are married to Brazilians and excited to have kids soon
01:09:35 – When people complain
01:10:00 – He can let whiney losers slide, but he hates whiney winners; he hates when people berate or put others down at the table
01:11:05 – The impact solvers has had
01:11:15 – Since he’s started using the Range Converter he’s felt more comfortable in certain spots in tournaments; it’s given him structure and it makes sense to play that way
01:12:00 – It helps you improve your game and make adjustments; it’s important to feel confident and learn principles
01:15:50 – A tip for a new poker player
01:16:05 – Approach poker from a strong decision-making position hand-by-hand; don’t let emotions or gambling get in the way and don’t quit everything and start
01:20:07 – On having JG as a friend; JG thinks, plans for his friends, is generous, fun, interesting, genuine, and conscientious
01:21:50 – How he met his wife
01:22:02 – He went to Brazil with a friend 9 years ago and met her while they were out; they communicated in Spanish and it was love at first sight
01:23:03 – They wouldn’t allow her to visit the U.S. so he started visiting her and Skyping her; he learned Portuguese to communicate better with her
01:24:50 – Seeing people limp in tournaments
01:25:10 – People are starting to learn solvers and try out new things; you’ve got to work on your game
01:25:30 – The hamburger thing; he ate a Burger Lounge burger while streaming and played well
01:26:55 – He doesn’t care what people say, he doesn’t regret his food choice; there aren’t that many food options in casinos
01:32:30 – Thoughts on poker’s future
01:32:52 – He likes poker, but it’s slowly starting to become more solved; he wonders what the long-term future of online poker is
01:35:30 – Poker needs to be human vs. human; there shouldn’t be computer assistance
01:41:25 – He doesn’t have weaknesses anymore; he used to be bad at some games but is now better at all of them
01:42:10 – Poker as a zero sum game
01:42:30 – He never claimed to be a big service to society and believes there are many jobs out there that don’t serve society, either
01:43:05 – Poker isn’t unique, there are tons of jobs and industries that aren’t a service and are even a detriment to society; he’s devoting more time to other endeavors
01:44:20 – They sponsor a few young athletes; his work and money helps others through his wife
01:45:15 – He has an idea of being a citizen of earth; his wife is turning it into a concept and NGO
01:46:45 – He recognizes that poker is his selfish pursuit, but he can support his family and give back to society from it
01:49:40 – On what area Brian thinks Jeff should improve in his game
01:50:20 – In the past, Jeff played scared and tight; he needed to open up his game and take advantage of opportunities
01:51:04 – It’s a mental thing more than a technique thing; Jeff is working on that with Elliot Roe
01:51:45 – Jeff has had some issues with focus and flow; when they went to Cabo to play online, he’d stream and have to play and entertain
01:53:03 – Learning other games could be beneficial
01:56:10 – On prioritizing exercise and sleep to play better for longer
01:56:45 – He wants good results so he lines everything else around that, not the other way around
02:02:55 – More on bitcoin; he thinks it’s going to be worth a lot but suggests everyone do their research
3 Key Points
Solvers have had a huge impact on poker over the past 15 years.
Prioritize your health to play better for longer.
A strong mindset is critical for success.
Contact/Resources
Partner - Party Poker
Jeff’s Website – Jeff Gross Poker
Brian’s Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, and Website
Brian’s Blog
Murad Mahmudov’s interview - Here
Burning Man - Website
Range Converter - Website
Elliot Roe’s - Website

May 27, 2019 • 1h 51min
Andrew Neeme - Poker Player, YouTube Poker Vlogger
In this episode, Andrew Neeme, a professional poker player and popular vlogger, talks about how he started vlogging and shares the valuable lessons he learned along the way. Jeff and Andrew discuss how to balance time between marriage, vlogging, studying, and playing, and they speculate on developments in poker legislation. Listen in to hear Andrew share tips to follow when sharing your own content – and get some insight on what he wishes he would’ve done from the get-go.
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Time Stamped Show Notes:
01:00 – Introducing Andrew and his journey
01:30 – He went to Michigan State University and did an internship with a music production company in London and moved back to LA
02:50 – 2004-2008 he dabbled in online poker; around 2008 he started playing full-time poker
04:20 – He moved to Las Vegas almost 10 years ago
04:50 – Andrew’s popular Vlog
05:15 – He understood and enjoyed the video medium for poker; he liked that he could connect directly to the audience and do creative storytelling
07:00 – He started Vlogging in October of 2016
08:24 – Advice for vloggers
08:40 – You can film from your cell phone, and the hard part is the editing; he had no idea how long it would take at first
10:20 – He suggests hiring someone to do the editing from the get-go; personality goes into the editing, which is hard for him to let go of now
12:45 – How Andrew manages his time
13:25 – He films and edits all his videos; he doesn’t have a science behind his social media strategy and just posts when he wants to
17:25 – Social media apps can easily take time away from productivity
19:15 – Developments in online poker legislation
19:45 – Everything happens slowly but he feels there is still hope and possibility; people can gamble online easily if they want to whether it’s regulated or not
22:21 – He’d love to road trip around Michigan and livestream
23:05 – Andrew’s position on team Run It Up
25:28 – They help with management, messaging, and branding
28:00 – The Vlogger in Paradise Challenge and the Andrew’s biggest tournament
28:30 – They got submissions from around the world; the quality of the videos and personalities were amazing
31:13 – It’s the biggest tournament he’s ever played; there are giveaway winners and professionals playing side by side
33:41 – Tournaments always have variance; the key is not to get too carried away, it’s 2.5 times bigger than the biggest buy-in he had ever played
40:20 – Andrew’s relationship with his wife, Busi; they met at a friend’s gathering in Las Vegas and the rest is history
45:00 – Stake Kings is like crowdfunding for poker players; Andrew is there
47:50 – The other games Andrew plays
48:00 – He loves PLO, 1-2-5, and 2-5-10 game in Vegas; he also likes the short-deck he played at Run It Up Reno
50:00 – He hasn’t gotten into mixed games
52:40 – What Andrew does to decompress and what content he consumes
52:50 – Most videos are long format; he follows a few vloggers and doesn’t watch TV
55:50 – His main goal this year is to focus on being more present; when you make videos you’re always looking ahead
57:20 – At the time of the recording, he has 150 vlogs
58:30 – Andrew’s meet-up games and Twitch streams
58:40 – They aren’t planned in advance and it’s an approachable game for most people; they’re every man’s stakes and it’s more of a social game
01:00:45 – They had their first meet up game tournament in Austin; it’s nice to get face-to-face with people
01:02:05 – He’s done about 10 livestreams and can do it simultaneously through YouTube and Twitch; Twitch is more lenient about background music
01:05:15 – Andrew’s future plans
01:05:30 – He started the videos over a year ago; he says it’s hard to say how he’ll be making a living years from now but maybe the content will change
01:07:50 – He doesn’t know what the future of poker holds; he said it’ll be hard to replicate the boom of years ago but regulations would be great for poker
01:10:20 - People recognize Andrew in the poker scene and sometimes outside of the poker room; the work he’s done is like his resume and can be done in any industry
01:14:50 – Advice for new vloggers
15:00:00 – Uploading earlier in the week at a reasonable hour is better than uploading on the weekend; as far as length, he takes as long as needed to tell the story
01:21:05 – An unpleasant experience at the table
01:21:30 – He’s never seen any fistfights; Jeff saw someone take $2,500 worth of chips
01:22:40 – Poker seems to be pretty chill overall
01:23:00 – Poker or content creation?
01:23:30 – Vlogging is more exciting, but poker is the income source; the YouTube revenue is helpful and pays some bills and he tries to balance all channels
01:24:15 – It would be daunting to create content about another subject that he doesn’t know as well as poker
01:25:10 – Kids and doppelgangers
01:25:20 – Yes, someday, and yes, he knows he looks like Aaron Rodgers and the Verizon guy
01:29:30 – Income streams through social media and weed
01:30:00 – Merchandise, YouTube income, and partnerships provide for income streams; he smokes weed very rarely
01:31:25 – Impacts to Andrew’s relationship due to his celebrity
01:31:40 – The biggest downside is that everything takes a lot of time; he has to balance his relationship with everything else
01:32:25 – He and his wife started a podcast called the Tells Podcast; they talk about life, poker, YouTube, pop culture, and relationships
01:35:58 – His family likes to see what he’s up to on YouTube; he recommends people show their family the professionalism and passion they have for the industry
01:37:40 – Busi plays the markets and poker is similar, so they understood each other from the get-go
01:38:45 – Andrew’s thoughts on staking
01:38:57 – He sees it as a natural part of the poker experience and helps people move up in poker stakes; just like in other businesses, people get outside investors
01:39:39 – You can sell a piece of yourself to friends, colleagues, or other poker players while you get used to new poker stakes; he doesn’t have a lot of experience in that
01:40:24 – Ask each other as many questions as possible and sign a document hashing out all scenarios
01:41:50 – Money management
01:42:19 – When he first moved to Vegas he spent too much, now he manages his money better and isn’t into material possessions
01:46:10 – Poker as a zero sum game
01:46:20 – He looks at poker like a sport like golf; there’s tours, sponsorships, and it’s a spectator sport
01:46:55 – If you’re doing something that makes you happy, you’ll share that happiness with the world
3 Key Points
If you want to be a vlogger, hire an editor early on, refine as you go, and just do it!
There are so many ways to make a living now; there’s no telling what could be possible just a few years from now.
Staking is like a business seeking outside investors; it’s great as long as there’s good communication between the investor and the investee.
Contact/Resources
Partner - Party Poker
Jeff’s Website – Jeff Gross Poker
Andrew’s Vlog - YouTube
Run It Up - Website
Stake Kings - Website
Andrew’s Website
Andrew’s Twitch
Andrew and Busi’s Podcast

May 27, 2019 • 43min
Eric Damier - Founder of EarthPix and TravelSmarter
In this episode, Eric Damier, founder and CEO of EarthPix and TravelSmarter, talks about his inspiration for starting EarthPix and how they’ve kept a loyal following. Jeff and Eric discuss why he started TravelSmarter and how he built a platform to pass wholesale travel savings to the customer. Listen in to hear Eric share his thoughts on advertising through social media, his community of photographers, and why when his audience talks, he listens.
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Time Stamped Show Notes:
01:00 – Introducing Eric, his journey, and the beginnings of EarthPix
01:30 – He grew up in L.A. and got into sales and real estate at a very young age; he started playing poker after the market crash of 2008
02:15 – He learned a lot about YouTube technology and built his own YouTube network in 2011-2012; he learned about the power of social media and influence
03:00 – He also learned about Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram and helped brands use influencers as distribution channels
03:30 – He and some others built EarthPix as a way to aggregate the beautiful photos others had taken around the world; they went from 0 to over 500,000 in 2 months
05:07 – He’s in the digital space now and is passionate about growing audiences and engaging people; he’s grown EarthPix for the last 6 years
06:30 – He loves Anthony Bourdain and was inspired by his time in India when he started a call center there
08:15 – 2.5 years ago he began travelling more and learned how to take photos and pilot a drone
10:15 – At first they were criticized for sharing content without credit; as they grew they learned to credited appropriately and photographers started wanting to be featured
11:15 – Eric is friends with Tom Anderson of Myspace who loves to travel and became a great photographer
13:30 – What makes EarthPix stand out from the rest
13:45 – They’re always the first to find beautiful and engaging content and get the first rights to a photo; they have a viral affect
14:50 – They have a team behind the social media strategy of the account; they have a network of photographers that send them excellent content
15:39 – They don’t post ads which keeps them respected by followers; they aren’t focused on monetizing their audience, rather, they provide value
17:15 – The underwater hotel room in the Maldives and the experience he had at the Conrad Resort
18:20 – The Conrad had worked with other accounts for exposure; when he approached them, he asked them about their goals and what they need
19:00 – They wanted to be the most followed resort in the Maldives and Eric made it happen; they told him about a secret project
19:30 – The underwater villa was the project and a stay at the villa is now at least $250,000
20:11 – The trip he and his team took to do this for The Conrad was valued at about $350,000; it was gorgeous
23:00 – Information about TravelSmarter
23:20 – Eric has engaged with his audience now more than ever before; they are passionate about travel but many say they don’t have the money
24:40 – He discovered a way to build a platform so that travel savings could be passed on to the customer/member/follower
26:05 – In the first two weeks after launch, they had over 5-6 bookings and one customer saved $3,500 in a one-week stay
26:45 – TravelSmarter clients are flexible and budget-conscious; by booking in advance, you have more options
29:00 – People are very happy with their bookings through TravelSmarter; the site is clean and clutter-free
30:48 – Airlines are different; their margins are thinner so savings aren’t as much
33:00 – On the site, you can compare their price to the public prices found on retail sites; flexible dates and places make for higher savings
37:20 – Pricing was based on case studies and community outreach; you can test it out for 30 days free
37:57 – After 30 days, it’s a 12-month membership for $9.97 a month; it’s great for domestic and international travel
41:20 – TravelSmarter will have a podcast soon where professional travelers will share travel tips and advice
3 Key Points
Providing value to an audience, rather than simply trying to monetize them, is the secret to a large, loyal following.
Eric listened to what his audience wanted and created a platform to provide it.
Eric’s passion for travel fueled his desire to help others realize their own travel dreams.
Contact/Resources
Partner - Party Poker
Jeff’s Website – Jeff Gross Poker
EarthPix – Instagram, Facebook, Twitter
TravelSmarter – Instagram, Facebook, Website
Eric’s Social Media Accounts – Instagram, Twitter
Conrad Maldives Rangali Island - Website

May 12, 2019 • 2h
Joey Ingram - Host of the Award-Winning Poker Life Podcast
In this episode, Joey Ingram, author, content creator, poker player and host of the award-winning poker podcast Poker Life Podcast, talks about where poker is headed and why he’s so passionate about it. Jeff and Joey discuss his book, Chasing the Poker Dream, his podcast, and his viral MMA investigation video. Listen in to hear Joey share his thoughts on legalized poker, surrounding yourself with positivity, and how studying still determines your effectiveness in the game.
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Time Stamped Show Notes:
02:30 – Introducing Joey and his journey
02:40 – He was born outside of Chicago and moved to Chicago when he was 21; he had no money and lived with roommates
03:45 – His family isn’t involved in his poker journey
04:14 – He started playing poker at 19-20 years old; he lost money online and at the casino repeatedly
05:02 – He found Two Plus Two and started learning; he began to build up his bank roll, started playing on Poker Stars, and quit his job
06:02 – He has had ridiculous swings and is comfortable not having a lot of money
07:20 – He switched to PLO and has done 24-table no-limit hold ‘em
08:35 – Joey’s book Chasing the Poker Dream
09:00 – The book goes into the qualities of a successful poker player and what separates them from the rest
10:44 – He dedicates his life now to producing content and he’s happy with that
13:45 – Joey’s view on player, company, and media marketing improvements
14:11 – Joey believes poker player are marketed poorly on all outlets; outlets feud with each other and there isn’t much promotion and support
18:15 – He believes poker isn’t going to have a comeback; he thinks companies don’t care about it and doubts higher-ups even play
19:50 – He’s disappointed by the lack of policing and bots on sites and believes they have no way of policing and protecting their cash games
20:54 – He believes bots are rampant on sit-and-gos; he believes you can’t win cash games and can win tournaments because there are still bad players there
22:14 – He doesn’t support ACR for cash games and says the best place to play might be PP poker clubs; Global Poker may be a good option
24:25 – He plays online but has refocused on marketing poker; he’s doubtful of the future of American poker
27:15 – He’s stepped outside of poker and witnessed how much better the media and marketing is in poker
28:00 - He’s inspired to create content that excites people and players again while still being real and honest
32:15 – He understands the negativity in tournaments because players live tournament-by-tournament, game-by-game, paycheck-to-paycheck
32:50 – There are great things about the game, but the other side is not always positive
34:00 – Joey’s thoughts on short-deck: it’s a niche game and probably won’t catch on
35:00 – He loves Poker Central and Poker Stars and understands why Doug left poker
42:15 – Response to a comment calling Joey a “dick”
42:21 – He believes it was because of his ACR comment; he spent so much time on ACR and the investigation
44:42 – He believes Jeff gets the best side of these big companies and sites; he’s still extremely concerned about the bots operating on the sites right now
46:55 – He believes no one is taking a stance against the corruption on poker sites
47:45 – Joey’s stance on prop-bets
49:15 – He lost most of his bets this year
50:00 – His won many prop-bets over the course of his career
53:15 – He doesn’t talk about what he studies, learns or cares about; he cares about the qualities needed to become successful at life
54:00 – When he started the podcast 4-5 years ago, he didn’t have a YouTube channel; he wanted something with high-level discussion
55:15 – He did PLO and WSOP events because it’d be good for business and validating
56:54 – People use numbers and metrics to validate others in poker; Joey doesn’t operate that way but understands that it’s hard to track anything else
58:25 – Joey talks about Jamie Staples; Jeff heard that Jamie felt attacked by Joey when he signed on to Stars
59:00 – Joey clarified that he doesn’t determine what someone does or doesn’t deserve; he admires Jamie’s work ethic and success
01:00:18 – He doesn’t care who gets sponsored and doesn’t waste time talking about others behind their back
01:06:51 – On PLO
01:07:00 – He believes it’s growing but will never pass hold ‘em
01:07:15 – How he responds to people who believe poker is a “zero sum game”
01:07:50 – He recently received a message from someone who said Joey brightens his life; he’s gotten millions of views and listens and gives knowledge to improve lives
01:09:16 – There are many ways to impact people; Joey believes he is doing his part
01:11:42 – People must create the opportunity for themselves to make a difference and impact others.
01:14:30 – On Joey’s podcast
01:14:52 – There are many things he knows he could do to improve his podcast
01:15:30 – He loves the conversations he has on the podcast and has learned so much from his guests
01:17:12 – He believes his podcast work hurts him overall; if a podcast doesn’t do well it affects the algorithm
01:18:35 – He’s made many connections in poker but could build up a brand around the podcast
01:19:32 – On his MMA investigation viral video
01:20:23 – It gave him confidence in the content he can produce across any field; he feels committed to being a voice in poker
01:22:15 – Thoughts on The Thirst Lounge
01:22:45 – He admires Bill Perkins and considers the conversation they had life-changing
01:24:50 – He’s surprised Bill’s Bahamas trip wasn’t covered on sites and in the media
01:26:26 – Joey’s 5-10 year outlook
01:26:48 – He’d like to be in charge of the WSOP someday so he can control scams; he’d put the event in a great light
01:28:22 – He does everything himself and isn’t good at organization or planning
01:30:30 – Joey’s thoughts on club GTO
01:30:45 – He says it’s a way of life; he is always looking to improve and grow
01:32:01 – His most pivotal moment was when he stopped 24 tabling
01:32:22 – If you focus in, you’ll be more successful, present, and focused
01:33:21 – He’s trying to increase awareness of big poker events; he’s shifting his strategy when he speaks
01:34:32 – He’s studying up to figure out what he wants to do
01:35:48 – How PLO and hold ‘em has changed over the past 5 years
01:36:11 – Mid-stakes players are using strategies that high-stakes players used to deploy; resources for PLO have increased
01:40:22 – His thoughts on legalized poker
01:41:33 – Poker Stars is becoming a global dominant leader and their strategy is genius; they’ve taken the loudest voices in poker and signed them to be ambassadors
01:42:37 – The ambassadors build content and have trusted followers who listen
01:50:00 – Final takeaways: Surround yourself with positivity and study
3 Key Points
There are great things about poker but it’s important to remember the balance and recognize both sides.
Create a positive and inspiring environment for yourself.
Find a way of life that works best for your personal success, presence, and focus.
Contact/Resources
Partner - Party Poker
Website – Jeff Gross Poker
Gaming and Strategy Site – Two Plus Two
Joey’s Book – Chasing the Poker Dream
Poker Central - Website
Viral MMA investigation – YouTube Video

May 12, 2019 • 1h 52min
BenCB789 - Founder of Raise Your Edge
In this episode, Bencb789, creator, founder, and coach at Raise Your Edge reveals why he keeps a low profile despite his incredible success in high roller tournaments. Jeff and Bencb789 discuss what he attributes to his success and why he was inspired to create content to help other players transform their game. Listen in to hear the Bencb789 share the truth about what it’s like at the top – and the bottom – and learn some insider tricks to improve your game and life.
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Time Stamped Show Notes:
01:00 – Introducing Bencb789 and his journey
01:45 – He started playing poker in 2009; he improved quickly and was encouraged by friends to work on his strategy and move up to tournament poker
03:26 – His family didn’t necessarily support him at first but they came around when they saw how serious he was
05:03 – He went broke a few times at the beginning using his parent’s money; when he started working on his strategy he made money
06:20 – Ben keeps a low-profile because it keeps him more focused with and provides less distraction
08:05 – He didn’t want to incorporate a company in Germany so he moved around Europe and is now in Vienna
09:35 – Thoughts on his future kids playing online poker, performance food, and travel
10:00 – He sees poker as normal and would support it; he thinks in the future there will be possibilities beyond what we can even imagine right now
11:45 – He likes to eat food as fuel to enhance his performance; he eats healthily on a regular basis but will indulge on occasion
14:03 – He loves Canada’s natural beauty and recently enjoyed Sicily and Costa Rica; usually when he travels it is for something poker-related
17:20 – Why Bencb789 loves poker, how he started winning, and what happened at the top
17:30 – He’s naturally competitive and hates the traditional corporate environment
18:30 – He loves an environment where he creates wins and losses by his own accord; his results are directly correlated with his endurance and effort
20:15 – He made money after a year and was happy to pay his bills playing poker
21:00 – He learned the power of mindset, network, and overall health and this is what propelled him to success
21:41 – His largest tournament score was the WCOOP Super High Roller Title against Fedor Holz in 2016
22:30 – He released his course April 2017; he had been playing less poker because he was working on Raise Your Edge
23:40 – He had trouble staying motivated after playing the highest tournaments
24:30 – He feels more pumped about poker now that he has learned more strategies
26:30 – The Raise Your Edge offerings: They’re on social media and offer a variety of courses
27:30 – The course was started long ago; he saved hands to discuss theories and indexed topics to teach in webinars
29:30 – The course took a long time to launch because he wanted to perfect it; now they have a large team and dedicated students
33:20 – The Ranger tool gives you helpful hands and spots to play; it gets updated regularly and follows an easy-to-learn pattern
35:00 – It teaches you a hand matrix, frequencies, and how to bet; it’s worth investing your time and efforts into learning
38:30 – Students engage with coaches and ask about hands; he updates whenever new information or strategies come up
39:17 – The course is always current and there’s money to be made in poker
40:50 – The course is an investment but there is tons of content available to students
42:30 – You don’t need the course to start; just learn from the free content
43:57 – Bencb789’s thoughts on Twitch
44:00 – He enjoys Twitch but prefers to play professionally so he can focus more on the game
47:30 – The mindset course he offers
48:00 – The course is applicable in poker and in life; a strong mindset is required in order to see true results
50:00 – The course isn’t a traditional mindset course; it’s doesn’t just assess tilts, it gets into your past and limiting beliefs
54:00 – How Bencb789 disconnects
54:15 – He doesn’t check his phone 30-60 minutes after waking up and has a morning routine he follows; he also tried to disconnect before bed
55:00 – He has tried to create the best possible environment; he decides when to connect and what to engage in
59:00 – Bencb789’s thoughts on the future of poker
59:30 – He believes poker is a timeless game and will continue evolving with the advancements and spread of technology; stages will keep growing
01:00:34 – He sees poker as the dominant game in the future
01:02:29 – A re-tweet giveaway contest: Win Raise Your Edge gear and two cash prizes
01:03:45 – The best YouTube videos to learn from are deep run videos available on the Raise Your Edge YouTube channel
01:06:16 – Poker as a “zero-sum game”
01:06:50 – He doesn’t care if people think poker doesn’t have any use to society; he sees poker like any other professional sport
01:07:46 – Poker offers entertainment value to people; people see it as different from sports because of the gambling component
01:09:15 – People can become addicted to poker and that needs to be addressed; it’s important to give back but shouldn’t be obligatory
01:10:15 – The most important thing is that people are happy and doing something they love
01:12:30 – How poker has helped him in life
01:12:40 – It takes more to get him off balance
01:13:30 – He’s conscious, mindful, and rational; bad beats enable him to stay peaceful when others would get mad
01:17:05 – He’s learned that it’s important to make sure he’s happy first; with that in place, he can better serve and help others
01:19:30 – Take care of yourself and put yourself in a position to reach results and happiness
01:23:30 – If you’re afraid, just start and structure your studying to learn as you go
01:24:55 – Understand that you’ll never learn everything there is to know
01:25:50 – Questions from the audience
Q: “What’s better: To play stacked, medium stakes, or low stakes on your own and grow?
A: “I always encourage people to try and play on their own. It teaches you more ownership, discipline, and self-sufficiency.”
Q: “What is your favorite tournament format and why?”
A: “Fast Track Tournaments, although I love many kinds of tournaments.”
Q: “What’s the difference between a player and a top player?”
A: “Top players take the big risks that others shy away from. There are some sleeping giants playing mid-stakes; they could be the best players in the world.”
Q: “How much were you studying and playing in the beginning?”
A: “It depends on your level. If you’re a beginner, the ratio should be about 70-80% studying to 20-30% playing. The more you advance, the more you should play.”
3 Key Points
With all the information that’s online, remember, you’re in control of what you consume. Create your ideal environment and stay focused on what matters.
Take care of yourself – you can’t perform optimally, deliver to others, be fulfilled, and be happy until you’re right with yourself.
Just start. Structure your studying and accept that you can’t possibly learn it all.
Contact/Resources
Partner - Party Poker
Website – Raise Your Edge
Raise Your Edge Social Media – YouTube, Instagram, Twitter
Website – Jeff Gross Poker