The Flow Show with Jeff Gross

Christian Harder, a pro poker player with $4.5M+ in earnings winner of the PokerStars Championship, has withstood the test of time and is still crushing it in poker. He shares how he got good with the help of his friends, his superpower and advantages, how he handles swings, and what it took to figure out his edge. Tune in to hear Christian’s thoughts on the main event, how he handled winning and losing years, why adaptability will always be an X-factor – and hear his stories that involve a few other poker legends.   Visit Jeff Gross - The Flow Show or find us on iTunes to subscribe, visit previous episodes, and learn more about your host, Jeff Gross.   Time Stamped Show Notes:                                                                                                               00:00 – 13:30 – His COVID experience, playing online PLO, his poker journey, his best year in online poker, how the game changed, swings, and how he got good. 13:30 – 27:00 – On figuring out the balance and his edge, online tournaments, getting bored and losing the fire for the grind, what differentiates him from the rest, sports, and live vs. online. 27:00 – 48:00 – Poker table drama, sports during COVID, having peer support to improve your game, what he enjoys outside of poker, and his superpower. 48:00 – 59:00 – His thoughts on the main event, online poker security, exciting things happening in poker, his hopes for the future of poker, and his thoughts on HUDs. 59:00 – 01:08:30 – Election betting, politics, conspiracies, his losing years, his favorite starting hand, how he met Michael Phelps, personal development and growth stuff. 01:08:30 – 01:30:30 – On being adaptable and withstanding the test of time, how he first got into poker, poker legend stories, sports, and poker legalities.   3 Key Points Make poker friends and push each other to get better. Change your style and don’t be predictable. Adapt and evolve.   Contact/Resources Partner - partypoker Website - Jeff Gross Poker Jeff’s Twitch

Tom Marchese, a pro poker player with over $19M in MTT earnings and the partypoker Millions champion, is such a big fan of sports cards, he got his own store in Las Vegas. He shares his insights on card values, trends, card grading, and pricing, and he shares how he’s had to adapt during the pandemic. Tune in to hear Tom share the recipe for getting better at non-high stakes, what sets a foundation for true poker skill, and his greatest poker strengths – and hear which players he mistakenly underestimated on the felt.     Visit Jeff Gross - The Flow Show or find us on iTunes to subscribe, visit previous episodes, and learn more about your host, Jeff Gross.   Time Stamped Show Notes:                                                                                                               00:00 – 20:00 – His background with sports cards, what it’s like to own a sports card store, insights on card values and trends, and his prized possessions. 20:00 – 35:00 – How card prices and values are driven up, obstacles and solutions, grading, on poker, grinding, his big win and how he strategized and studied to win. 35:00 – 54:00 – On having a foundational skill level, the recipe to get better at non-high stakes, why he left college, his parent support, when he got to the next level, and running well. 54:00 – 01:22:00 – On what drives him, why he plays poker, comparing results, his future stops, online vs. live, small vs. high-stakes play, and what he thinks about cryptocurrency. 01:22:00 – 01:36:00 – Prop bets, variance, business investing, days off, his greatest poker strengths, social media, and what happened to Big Cheese Poker on Twitter. 01:36:00 – 01:57:00 – Online orders, pandemic store rules, the stress of running a store right now, the players he learned from, and what he thinks of HUDs.   3 Key Points Invest in sealed boxes. Getting lucky early-on is important. You can’t substitute experience.   Contact/Resources Partner - partypoker Website - Jeff Gross Poker Jeff’s Twitch Legacy Sports Cards Legacy Sports Cards Instagram

Tyson Apostol, reality TV personality, winner of Survivor, and former pro cyclist, is ready to reveal what really happens behind-the-scenes. He shares how he was allowed to prepare for the show, what they look for when they select competitors, and what set him apart from the competition. Tune in to hear Tyson share his thoughts on drugs in cycling, what he would’ve done differently in the past, and what he was told about showing personality on a show – and hear what he has learned about himself through athletics, competition, and poker.   Visit Jeff Gross - The Flow Show or find us on iTunes to subscribe, visit previous episodes, and learn more about your host, Jeff Gross.   Time Stamped Show Notes:                                                                                                               00:00 – 29:30 – Tyson’s life story and Mormon background, how he got on Survivor, his natural abilities, his cycling background, and his take on drugs in the sport. 29:30 – 48:30 – On Survivor, Marriage Bootcamp, show behind-the-scenes, how he had to think about his role, and how the payout structure works. 48:30 – 01:02:00 – How he’s allowed to prepare for Survivor, how they cast people, when he knew when to re-evaluate his direction on the show, and what he would’ve done differently. 01:02:00 – 01:28:00 – On what drives and motivates him, how adrenaline helps, what sets him apart, game vs. real life, how they check your health, and mindset. 01:28:00 – 01:50:30 – Having the crew around you on the show, what it’s like to be in the top three, and the importance of raw, open, and honest personality on the show. 01:50:30 – 02:10:00 – What they look for on the show, what he misses about cycling, what he thinks about his own athletic abilities, and what he appreciates about the team environment.   3 Key Points Be who you are. See what other people do then assess your own direction. Know your natural abilities and cultivate the rest.   Contact/Resources Partner - partypoker Website - Jeff Gross Poker Jeff’s Twitch

Kelly Minkin, a professional poker player with $1.5M in career live tournament earnings, is an attorney, professional poker player, and works to support the charity 0 to 100 Challenge. She shares how women and men play differently on the felt, the role of emotions in poker, and how it feels to find her groove in deep runs. Tune in to hear Kelly share how she spends her tournament winnings, why her mindset is unique, and why she believes live play will always drive poker’s popularity – and learn what this poker pro uses behind-the-scenes to improve her game.      Visit Jeff Gross - The Flow Show or find us on iTunes to subscribe, visit previous episodes, and learn more about your host, Jeff Gross.   Time Stamped Show Notes:                                                                                                               00:00 – 30:30 – On living in Cypress, the 0 to 100 Challenge, the work it takes to stream, what it takes to build a charity, the benefits of having a following, and online support. 30:30 –51:00 – On building her lifestyle, streaming burnout, how she started playing poker, her tournament play, what she did with her tournament winnings, and grinding. 51:00 – 01:12:00 – On getting better, losing money, her big win, the “groove” of going deep, wild runs, her family’s interest, her career outside of poker, and why her mindset is unique. 01:12:00 – 01:38:30 – Recalling past hands, her take on poker as a female, the differences between male and female decision-making, playing live versus online, and the future of poker. 01:38:30 – 01:59:00 – Her poker career, Eric Afriat’s subtle angles and speech-play, why the book Sophie’s World changed the way she thinks, and her schooling and appeals process. 01:59:00 – 02:28:00 – On studying, what programs she uses, what she thinks about solvers, leveraging emotions in live play, other hobbies, investing, and the balance of luck and skill.   3 Key Points You’re either built for streaming or you’re not. Be conscious of mental fatigue. Humans play with emotion, which will always create variance.   Contact/Resources Partner - partypoker Website - Jeff Gross Poker Jeff’s Twitch 0 to 100 Challenge Kelly’s Instagram Kelly’s Twitter

Austin AKA DNP3, the founder of @gridteam, CEO of Giveaways, Twitch streamer, and YouTube creator, has cracked the code on how to create community through his channel. He shares his philosophy around giveaways, how they’ve created an incredible “Wolfpack” community, and how he manages to give away so much. Tune in to hear Austin reveal how his channel evolved into a business, how he manages it all, and how he deals with toxicity in the chat – and discover his best tips for building engagement and a rock-solid following.     Visit Jeff Gross - The Flow Show or find us on iTunes to subscribe, visit previous episodes, and learn more about your host, Jeff Gross.   Time Stamped Show Notes:                                                                                                               00:00 – 36:00 – How Austin started, why he started doing giveaways, how his business and community has grown, what he aims for, and how he uses data. 36:00 – 53:00 - What he thinks about grinding, networking, toxicity in streams, the structure and system he uses to keep up with everything, and tips for better engagement. 53:00 – 01:17:00 – Poker talk, his first streamer and moderator, information about The Grid and his Stream Team, how he manages everything, and creative giveaway ideas. 01:17:00 – 01:54:00 – His personal life, how they’ve been managing everything with COVID, politics and division, how he manages to travel and stay connected. 01:54:00 – 02:17:00 – How the community has evolved, bitcoin, how winners are picked, APIs, and tips for people who want to up their chances of winning over Twitter. 02:17:00 – 02:40:00 – On banning toxic people, poker, his favorite streamers, good strategies for engagement and giveaways, and the giveaway.   3 Key Points Hook people with the first line of your Tweet. Be a part of a cool community. Engage your community with giveaways.   Contact/Resources Partner - partypoker Website - Jeff Gross Poker Jeff’s Twitch Website – DNP3 DNP3’s Twitter DNP3’s Twitch DNP3’s YouTube

Alexandra Botez, a chess player, Twitch streamer, and YouTube sister-duo of BotezLive, gives her honest opinion about how poker is portrayed in The Queen’s Gambit. She shares why she started a channel with her younger sister, breaks down how players are rated in chess, and explains how things are different for women in the game. Tune in to hear Alexandra debunk some common misconceptions about chess, and hear why it’s never too late to focus, zone in, and work your mental muscles with chess.   Visit Jeff Gross - The Flow Show or find us on iTunes to subscribe, visit previous episodes, and learn more about your host, Jeff Gross.   Time Stamped Show Notes:                                                                                                               00:00 – 14:30 – How COVID has impacted viewership, what she thinks about The Queen’s Gambit, females in the game, and the long-term vision for their stream. 14:30 – 25:00 – On variance, choker (chess + poker), gambling and betting, chess tournaments and the money that can be won, coaching and what she’s doing to improve what she does. 25:00 – 39:30 - On getting into Stanford, working with her sister, her chess goals, the most important attributes and skills in chess, her poker experience, and how players are rated. 39:30 – 57:30 – Strong chess countries, cheating in chess vs. in poker, blindfolded chess, how she feels about family and kids, and her recent business endeavor. 57:30 – 01:05:00 – On wanting to bootstrap a business, when an investment makes sense, the languages she speaks, and chess as a mental sport. 01:05:00 – 01:20:00 – Women in the highest levels of chess, changing the culture of chess, her favorite streamer, common chess misconceptions, and life lessons through chess.   3 Key Points Chess is gaining interest and experiencing a spike. Quality over quantity. People don’t play chess for the money.   Contact/Resources Partner - partypoker Website - Jeff Gross Poker Jeff’s Twitch BotezLive YouTube BotezLive Twitch Alexandra’s Twitter Alexandra’s Instagram

Ryan Depaulo, a WSOP bracelet winner, streamer, vlogger, and ACR Team pro, tells the story of how he won his bracelet in a parking lot. He shares his playing style, why he’s not good at table-talk, how he handles trolls in the chat, and who he’d love to play someday. Tune in to hear what Ryan thinks is the biggest challenge in the poker world today and discover why he thinks you could be creating a bad feedback loop if you think you’re unlucky.   Visit Jeff Gross - The Flow Show or find us on iTunes to subscribe, visit previous episodes, and learn more about your host, Jeff Gross.   Time Stamped Show Notes:                                                                                                               00:00 – 21:30 - Ryan’s WSOP win, he recalls games that he played and the locations where he played the tournament, and how his channels fuel each other. 21:30 – 37:30 - On stealth-mode peeing, glitching technology, reflecting on past hands, documenting hands, his game and style, and his school of study. 37:30 – 01:06:00 - On his support, his past work, his ACR (America’s Card Room) sponsorship, endorsements, Twitch, Twitch chats and trolls, vlogging, and his community. 01:06:00 – 01:34:00 - The Doug Polk tiff, his fiancée’s take on COVID as a nurse, he might have COVID, his prediction on the future of poker, and how he won in a parking lot. 01:34:00 – 01:48:00 - On cashing in, his friend’s unlucky feedback loop, blowing table talk, the old, edited WSOP, and his favorite streamers. 01:48:00 – 02:09:00 - Who he wants to play, the biggest challenge in poker being RTA (Real Time Assisting), how he might have COVID, and his last message to the poker community.   3 Key Points Winning the final table is a big deal in big tournaments. We need open collaboration and communication in the poker industry. People are attracted to people who are genuine.   Contact/Resources Partner - partypoker Website - Jeff Gross Poker Jeff’s Twitch Ryan’s Twitter Ryan’s Twitch Ryan’s Instagram Ryan’s YouTube

Jonathan Van Fleet, a poker player and streamer with $16,683,350 in online MTT earnings, opens up about his journey with addiction and how recovery actually made his game even better. He shares how the game has gotten tougher over time, how he calculates someone’s worth in staking, and what people struggle to understand about poker strategy. Tune in to hear Jonathan’s thoughts on studying and playing against the best in the world – and get an insider’s look at what it’s like at BBZ.   Visit Jeff Gross - The Flow Show or find us on iTunes to subscribe, visit previous episodes, and learn more about your host, Jeff Gross.   Time Stamped Show Notes:                                                                                                               00:00 – 21:00 – How he has handled COVID, his poker beginnings, how the game has gotten tougher, and the mistakes he sees players make, and his online poker predictions. 21:00 – 41:00 – What he thinks about Twitch, staking, mark-ups, determining what someone is worth, his best and worst runs, and the role of luck in winning. 41:00 – 01:00:00 – On the bundle he created, tournament wins, engaging with YouTube comments, what he thinks of solvers, what people don’t understand, and his struggles in life. 01:00:00 – 01:33:00 – How recovery helped his poker game, games that bring out the ego, why MTTs work for him, his first big win, and upcoming tournaments. 01:33:00 – 01:52:00 – How the metagame has changed, why he hates working with technology, what the math revealed about how most were playing, and what to study. 01:52:00 – 01:03:30 – His favorite starting hand, his ranges, expanding systematically, what it’s like working at BBZ, and why he can compete with the best in the world.   3 Key Points Keep up with the evolution of the game. Train your mind to help control your emotions. Study, and know what others study to gain an edge.   Contact/Resources Partner - partypoker Website - Jeff Gross Poker Jeff’s Twitch Jonathan’s Twitter Jonathan’s Instagram Jonathan’s HendonMob

Lee Davy, the founder of 1000 Days Sober and a freelance writer, shares his journey with addition and how he became a writer. He explains what he learned about his “wounded self” on his journey and the role vulnerability plays when conducting a successful interview. Tune in to hear Lee’s thoughts on disappointing questions, building trust, and why he’s all about the “why” – and learn why he believes everyone is an addict.   Visit Jeff Gross - The Flow Show or find us on iTunes to subscribe, visit previous episodes, and learn more about your host, Jeff Gross.   Time Stamped Show Notes:                                                                                                               00:00 – 21:00 – Lee’s background, his journey with addictions, what he discovered about education, his poker plan, his writing, and his inspiration. 21:00 – 35:30 – On getting trained, how he got into live reporting, how freelancing works, and interview lessons. 35:30 – 50:30 – His interview series plan, what he saw in other interviews, why vulnerability is important, “wounded self” behaviors, and what he’s learned about himself. 50:30 – 01:18:00 - On being all about the “why,” mentorship questions, trust, confidence, why everyone is an addict, and why he started the 1000 Days Sober podcast. 01:18:00 – 01:29:00 - How poker can be used to curb alcohol addiction, how we’ve silenced our cognitive dissonance, what he thinks about the media, and people in poker that he admires. 01:29:00 – What he loved to write about, what he liked about Mike Sexton, his interests outside of work, his favorite movie, and what he loves about poker.   3 Key Points Build trust and confidence by being vulnerable. Everyone’s an addict. Education is important.   Contact/Resources Partner - partypoker Website - Jeff Gross Poker Jeff’s Twitch Lee’s Twitter 1000 Days Sober Instagram 1000 Days Sober Website 1000 Days Sober Information

Phil Hellmuth, a professional poker player with 15 WSOP bracelets and $24,117,333 in earnings, reveals why some poker players will never be the greatest. He shares why he plays tight, breaks down some of his biggest hands, and explains why some formats just seem to work. Tune in to hear Phil’s thoughts on politics, entrepreneurship, solvers, and GTO – and learn the ONE element every poker strategy must include.   Visit Jeff Gross - The Flow Show or find us on iTunes to subscribe, visit previous episodes, and learn more about your host, Jeff Gross.   Time Stamped Show Notes:                                                                                                               00:00 – 25:00 - The epic battle with Antonio, how people come across in interviews, reminiscing on past games, and the importance of reads. 25:00 – 53:00 - On being tight, having competitors, laughing at himself, game breakdowns, and formats that work 53:00 – 01:13:00 - Beef in the poker world, what he thought about the election, Trump’s harpoon moment and what he did, and why Phil sees himself as “reasonable” politically. 01:13:00 – 01:41:00 - On Trump being pro-poker, legalizing online poker, how to support poker, his businesses and opportunities, and what he recommends in regards to online vs. live. 01:41:00 – 02:00:00 - On tilts, Phil’s progression, business deals, owning companies with Jeff, investments, and some big players in the game. 02:00:00 – 02:16:30 - On going to the Olympics, what he thinks about solvers, why he believes GTO has flaws, and why every strategy must include an element on reading people.   3 Key Points Be reasonable. Great readability makes great poker players. Play with patience.   Contact/Resources Partner - partypoker Website - Jeff Gross Poker Jeff’s Twitch Phil’s Website Phil’s Twitter Phil’s Instagram