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Politicology
Politics in America is transforming. We’re embarking on a new series to deepen our understanding of who we are, how we got here, and how we rebuild without repeating the mistakes of the past. Ron Steslow hosts academics, behavioral economists, social psychologists, politicos, philosophers, anthropologists, journalists, poets, and storytellers—and more—to discuss America’s political present and future and dive into the deeper problems we face as a nation. Email us questions or comments: podcast@politicology.com.
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Aug 25, 2023 • 1h 7min
The Vice Presidential Primary Debate — The Weekly Roundup
Did anyone land a successful punch at the Republican Debate? (And did it matter?) Our reactions to Trump’s interview with Tucker Carlson, and the new song that catapulted a relatively unknown country singer to conservative folk hero and progressive hate object statusJoin our host, Ron Steslow, as he explores the most important political news with guests Susan Del Percio (MSNBC political analyst and crisis communications expert), Liam Donovan (Principal at Bracewell LLP) and Liz Gilbert Cohen (President of the 2020 Democratic National Convention).Segments to look forward to:(02:18) A deep dive into the first Republican primary debate, who won and who lost, Nikki Haley’s swipe at Donald Trump, and Vivek Ramaswamy’s annoying performance that could endear him to MAGA voters(31:50) Donald Trump and Tucker Carlson counterprogramming the debate with a pre-taped interview where they discussed whether Trump’s political rivals would try to kill him and whether we’re heading toward a civil war. (41:40) The little known Virginia country singer who was catapulted to conservative folk hero and progressive hate object status for the song “Rich Men North of Richmond” [Politicology+] The continued legal troubles for Hunter Biden and how Joe Biden can respond to the Republican attacks. Politicology+ is our private, ad-free version of this podcast, with subscriber-only episodes, strategy, and analysis. To join us there, visit politicology.com/plus or subscribe in Apple Podcasts.Follow this week’s panel on Twitter:https://twitter.com/RonSteslowhttps://twitter.com/LPDonovanhttps://twitter.com/DelPercioSRelated reading:Segment 1: Politico—How Fox’s Republican debate moderators are thinking about the Trump question - POLITICONYT—Debate Live Updates: Republican 2024 Candidates, but Not Trump, to Face Off - The New York TimesSegment 2: X—Tucker Carlson Interview with Donald Trump CNN—Trump already taped interview with Tucker Carlson that will air on GOP debate night | CNN PoliticsThe Hill—Tucker Carlson asks Trump: Are you worried ‘they’re going to try and kill you?’ | The HillSegment 3YouTube—Oliver Anthony Rich Men North of RichmondAZ Lyrics—Oliver Anthony - Rich Men North Of Richmond Lyrics | AZLyrics.comNY Post—What people are getting wrong about 'Rich Men North of Richmond'NYT—How ‘Rich Men North of Richmond’ Reached the Top of the ChartsIntelligencer—Oliver Anthony and the Incoherence of Right-Wing Populism Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 23, 2023 • 54min
Rank The Vote, Rock The Boat
Imagine a world where candidates no longer need to pander to the extremes, where minor candidates don’t tip elections one way or another, and where your vote can truly represent your values. Sounds like a dream, right?States like Alaska and Maine are already proving it's possible. And they’re doing it with Ranked Choice Voting.In this episode host Ron Steslow and Deb Otis (Director of Research at Fair Vote) break down ranked choice voting, how it works, the way it’s changing politics in states like Alaska and Maine, and what it could mean for other campaigns and how it could help us reign in extremism.Segments to look forward to:(02:12) How Deb started working on Ranked Choice Voting reform (03:05) What Ranked Choice Voting is and how it differs from our current system (07:40) Different forms of Ranked Choice Voting (12:00) How Ranked Choice Voting pushes candidates to appeal to more of the electorate(14:36) Ranked Choice Voting in partisan primary elections (17:30) The impact on extremist candidates like Sarah Palin in the 2022 Alaska House Race (20:50) How Ranked Choice Voting helped Lisa Murkowski hold off a primary challenge from her right (22:01) The repeal effort in Alaska (28:48) How Ranked Choice Voting has changed the way states are governed(31:51) Ranked choice voting in New York City primaries(35:35) Why Democrats are fighting Ranked Choice Voting in Nevada (43:37) What other states can learn from Alaska and Maine (47:47) Using Ranked Choice Voting in Presidential Primary elections. Learn more about Fair Vote: https://fairvote.org/Learn about how Ranked Choice Voting is being used in presidential primaries: https://bit.ly/3QXWwz0Follow Ron on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RonSteslow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 18, 2023 • 1h 36min
The State of Georgia v. Donald John Trump—The Weekly Roundup
On Monday, Donald Trump was hit with his fourth criminal indictment of the year this time by a Grand Jury in Fulton County, Georgia. What are the allegations in this newest indictment? How is the District Attorney, Fani Willis, using a law designed to fight organized crime to prosecute Trump’s plot to steal the 2020 election? What will the timeline for these cases be? Join our host, Ron Steslow, as he explores these questions Michael Zeldin (former federal prosecutor). Segments to look forward to:(01:23) An overview of the current criminal cases Donald Trump is facing(12:40) Why prosecutors will need to prove criminal intent in the Washington, D.C. case (and why they won’t in the Mar-a-Lago documents case)(16:00) How a Grand Jury returns a true bill of indictment in Georgia (22:00) What the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act is and how it’s used in Georgia (28:50) How normally legal activity can be charged when it’s part of a criminal enterprise. (35:00) How the RICO charges will allow prosecutors to show the full story of the plot to steal the election in Georgia (40:00) Whether defendants will have to serve prison time if convicted(44:00) Why Mark Meadows wants to move the case to federal court(56:58) Why the Georgia case and the indictment in Washington, DC can have overlap (1:07:40) The differences between Willis’s and Smith’s strategies. (1:15:34) What the timeline of these trials might look like (1:23:05) Whether Doanld Trump should be pardoned if convicted of a federal crimeRead more about the differences between Georgia and Federal law about lying to officials: The Two Big Questions Answered by Trump's Georgia IndictmentFollow Ron on Twitter:https://twitter.com/RonSteslowCheck out Micahel’s Podcast That Said: https://apple.co/3qAaPz6Related reading:The full indictmentNYT—Trump Georgia Indictment: Read the Full Text, Annotated - The New York Times(Video) ABC News—Fulton County, GA District Attorney Fani Willis announces indictment against TrumpNYT—The Two Big Questions Answered by Trump's Georgia IndictmentAJC—Who's who in the Georgia Trump indictment Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 16, 2023 • 50min
ENCORE: Worthy of Protection — Part 1
To unlock subscriber-only content, visit: https://politicology.com/plusGéraldine Blanche (Intellectual Property Lawyer and PhD candidate in Intellectual Property Law at the Sciences Po Law School in Paris) joins Ron Steslow to discuss the politics of fashion and intellectual property law(01:25) History of laws protecting creativity (09:20) What IP lawyers do(12:50) What led Géraldine to fashion IP(20:50) Fashion as political(35:50) How politicians send messages through fashion choices(41:41) Fashion as a signifier of political groupsFollow Ron on Twitter:https://twitter.com/RonSteslowFollow Géraldine on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/designedbylaw/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 16, 2023 • 54min
ENCORE: Worthy of Protection — Part 2
To unlock subscriber-only content, visit: https://politicology.com/plusGéraldine Blanche (Intellectual Property Lawyer and PhD candidate in Intellectual Property Law at the Sciences Po Law School in Paris) joins Ron Steslow to discuss the politics of fashion and intellectual property law(01:26) Fashion in Politics (05:36) Iteration, interpretation, and inspiration(09:47) The need for time in fashion and democracy(14:24) Environmental impact of fashion(26:42) The impact of AI on fashionFollow Ron on Twitter:https://twitter.com/RonSteslowFollow Géraldine on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/designedbylaw/Can you leave us a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts? It’s a big help 🙏 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 11, 2023 • 1h 10min
A Trumped Up State Of Mind — The Weekly Roundup
Should Donald Trump be pardoned if he’s convicted? Why are state legislatures trying to consolidate power and limit ballot referenda? What do spending decisions have to do with the Gerontocracy? Join our host, Ron Steslow, as he explores these questions with guests Lucy Caldwell (Walsh 2020 Campaign Manager) and Zack Czajkowski (Principal at Title Fight).Segments to look forward to:(02:00) Why the election subversion case against Trump is harder to prove than the documents case and whether Trump should be granted clemency if convicted.(21:21) Ohio voters defeat a measure to make amending the Constitution harder and what it says about the balance between direct democracy and the legislative system. (38:38) Breaking down the Medicaid maintenance after Covid protections end, the challenge of reigning in deficits without political backlash, and how this relates to the gerontocracy. [Politicology+] The lawsuit against Lizzo and “the narcissism of singular personalities.”Politicology+ is our private, ad-free version of this podcast, with subscriber-only episodes, strategy, and analysis. To join us there, visit politicology.com/plus or subscribe in Apple Podcasts.Follow this week’s panel on Twitter:https://twitter.com/RonSteslowhttps://twitter.com/lucymcaldwellRelated reading:Segment 1: NYT—https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/08/us/politics/trump-indictment-fake-electors-memo.htmlThe Dispatch —The New Trump Indictment Is Less Clear Cut - The DispatchNYT—Opinion | The Trial America Needs - The New York TimesSegment 2: NYT—Ohio Voters Reject Constitutional Change Intended to Thwart Abortion AmendmentAxios—Ohio referendum win for abortion rights sets stage for fights in other statesPolitico—Ohio’s Abortion Ban Is Rekindling a Century-Old Battle Over Direct Democracy - POLITICOSegment 3Politico—Biden's health care wins are being undone — and at the worst possible timeBloomberg—US Treasury Boosts Quarterly Borrowing Estimate to $1 Trillion Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 9, 2023 • 1h 7min
ENCORE: Any Given Tuesday with Lis Smith
To unlock exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plusWhat does it take for a mid-west mayor to become a viable presidential candidate?What’s it like to be a crisis communications expert in the eye of New York City Tabloids?What does it take to go from a field organizer to one of the most well respected communications strategists in American politics?Lis Smith (former senior advisor to presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg) joins host Ron Steslow to discuss her career working on twenty-something political campaigns, and her new memoir, Any Given Tuesday: A Political Love Story (01:25) Why “Any Given Tuesday?”(02:56) What drew her to politics?(07:48) Candidates as people, not two-dimensional characters(10:57) What can losing campaigns teach you?(14:45) Being in the eye of a tabloid news story(29:32) How not to use Twitter (and how you can use it well)(37:50) Tailoring comments on cable news(45:11) Candidate Pete’s communications strategy(56:21) The Gay Talk ExpressYou should read Any Given Tuesday: https://bit.ly/3AimMu7Follow Lis and Ron on Twitter: https://bit.ly/3AimMu7https://twitter.com/Lis_Smithhttps://twitter.com/RonSteslow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 4, 2023 • 1h 3min
A Capitol Offense — The Weekly Roundup
What will Donald Trump’s third indictment mean for his presidential campaign? How does the breakdown of Hunter Biden's plea deal impact President Joe Biden? How will New York City's migrant crisis shape national politics?Join our guest host, Susan Del Percio, as she explores these questions with guests Lanae Erickson (Senior Vice President for Social Policy, Education, and Politics at Third Way) and Andy Kroll (Investigative Reporter at ProPublica).Segments to look forward to:(02:42) Understanding the latest indictment of Donald Trump for his attempts to subvert the 2020 election24:20) Analyzing the collapse of Hunter Biden’s plea deal, the testimony of his business partner before Congress, and the potential implications for Joe Biden(34:34) Unraveling the crisis unfolding in New York City as it grapples with a surge in migrants[Politicology+] The hot button topic of California's new math framework, the drive for equity in math education, and the critical need to support high achieving students.Politicology+ is our private, ad-free version of this podcast, with subscriber-only episodes, strategy, and analysis. To join us there, visit politicology.com/plus or subscribe in Apple Podcasts.Follow this week’s panel on Twitter:https://twitter.com/DelPercioShttps://twitter.com/AndyKrollhttps://twitter.com/LanaeEricksonRelated reading:Segment 1: CNN—Takeaways from the indictment of Donald Trump for efforts to overturn his 2020 election defeat | CNN PoliticsNYT—Trump Faces New Charges in Mar-a-Lago Classified Documents Case - The New York TimesNYT—Can the Race Really Be That Close? Yes, Biden and Trump Are Tied.NYT—Trump Faces New Charges in Mar-a-Lago Classified Documents Case - The New York TimesNYT—Biden Shores Up Democratic Support, but Faces Tight Race Against TrumpSegment 2: NYT—Hunter Biden Plea Deal Put on Hold as Judge Questions Its Details - The New York TimesCNN—Takeaways from the stunning Hunter Biden hearing and what happens now | CNN PoliticsWP—Opinion Why the Hunter Biden plea fiasco will be a drag on DemocratsCNN—Devon Archer: Former business partner says Hunter Biden sold 'illusion' of access | CNN PoliticsFOX News—Biggs says Archer didn’t know anything about a bribeSegment 3ABC7—Calls for federal action as asylum seekers wait in line outside Roosevelt HotelNYT—Migrants Will Sleep Outdoors Because ‘There Is No More Room,’ Adams Says - The New York TimesPolitico—NYC Mayor Adams warns Biden about spiraling migrant crisis - POLITICO Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Aug 2, 2023 • 36min
Why We Buy
For the full and ad-free version of this episode, subscribe to Politicology+ at https://politicology.com/plusIn our digital age, people have grown to see social media platforms as mere tools and applications. Marcus Collins, the award-winning marketer, former digital strategist for Beyoncé, and author of "For The Culture", argues otherwise. Join host Ron Steslow as he sits down with Marcus to unravel the deep-seated influence of culture on social media and our daily choices.Marcus elaborates on his assertion that "social media is people" and why understanding this fundamental idea changes our approach to digital platforms. He also delves into the crucial role of culture in hyperpolarization and how it weaves into the fabric of our society.Segments to look forward to:(01:20) How Marcus came to study culture: "I feel like I'm at my best when I'm helping people realize the best version of themselves…”(04:26) The connection between marketing and psychology(08:42) The importance of purpose in advertising: "Start with what you believe and when you start with what you believe people who see the world the way you do go, 'Finally, someone said it. That's my person.'”(17:02) The influence of culture on consumer choice(20:40) The connection between culture and politics(24:00) Case study: How Patagonia leveraged culture to build their brandYou Should Read For the Culture: https://amzn.to/3QjLDaHCheck out Predictably Rational by Dan Ariely: https://amzn.to/3rPeWHLFollow Ron and Marcus on X (Twitter):https://twitter.com/RonSteslowhttps://twitter.com/marctothec Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 28, 2023 • 1h 18min
ENCORE: The Workingman’s Party?
This episode was originally released on October 12, 2022Mike Madrid (Lincoln Project Cofounder), Ruy Teixeira (Nonresident Senior Fellow at the American Enterprise Institute), Scott Tranter (Investor and Advisor to Decision Desk HQ) join host Ron Steslow to discuss the erosion of support for Democrats among Hispanic voters(03:01) Ruy’s background (17:00) The trend of Hispanic voters moving away from the Democratic party(34:10) Joe Biden’s low approval rating among Hispanic voters(35:40) What factors are driving the trend(38:11) The Latino vote taking on the characteristics of the American electorate(50:48) How Democrats could win back more Hispanic voters(58:02) The tension between working class voters and voters concerned about environmental issuesTo unlock exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plusFollow Mike, Scott and Ron on Twitter:https://twitter.com/madrid_mikehttps://twitter.com/stranterhttps://twitter.com/RonSteslow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices


