
Self-Funded With Spencer
Self-funded with Spencer shares inspiring conversations with the most successful and influential people in healthcare - company founders, CEOs, entrepreneurs, doctors, sales leaders, and more - to help educate and inspire YOU to become the best version of yourself.
Latest episodes

Apr 16, 2024 • 1h 1min
Modern Virtual Care With AI (with Chris Mathew)
"I don't believe that random doctors should treat random patients in ongoing continuity of care. I don't think that transactional care is good for patients, and I know it's not good for physicians." - Chris Mathew
The great Chris Mathew, Chief Growth Officer at Sniffle, joined me to talk about the future of Telehealth and the amazingly cost-effective ($15 a month!) benefits plan that Sniffle offers.
Chris comes from an entrepreneurial family background, which pushed him to work at various startups over the years. Chris and I talked about why it was so important for him to be part of a startup even when he didn’t immediately see success, and how that drive led him to where he is today.
Chris is really passionate about making the experience of healthcare better for both patients and physicians, and Sniffle’s “Aignosis”, an AI diagnosis tool, plays a big role in making doctor’s visits more effective and personal.
Join us this week for a conversation on making doctor’s and patient’s lives better, and learning just how Sniffle can offer so many amazing benefits for just fifteen dollars a month.
Chapters:
00:00:00 Meet Chris Mathew
00:08:09 Entrepreneurial Success Through Resilience and Perseverance
00:14:20 Student Debt Impact on Physicians
00:18:42 Real-time Savings with Sniffle Rx Platform
00:30:05 Seamless Virtual Consultation Experience with Sniffle
00:36:03 Personalized Diet Plans Using AI Technology
00:45:36 Virtual Healthcare Network for Behavioral Wellness
00:57:07 The Future of Sniffle
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Key Words:
#Entrepreneurship #HealthcareChallenges #AIHealthcare #TelehealthInnovation #VirtualCare #AIIntegration #PrescriptionProcess #BehavioralHealth #EmployeeBenefits #ResilienceInBusiness #ContinuityOfCare #MentalHealthAwareness #selffunded #podcast
Entrepreneurship, Healthcare Challenges, AI Healthcare, Telehealth Innovation, Virtual Care, AI Integration, Prescription Process, Behavioral Health, Employee Benefits, Resilience In Business, Continuity Of Care, Mental Health Awareness, self funded, podcast

Apr 12, 2024 • 1h 25min
The MSK Roundtable, with Chris Hamilton, Heidi Ojha, and Mark Testa
Does bone-on-bone contact always lead to pain? What's the best way to get good, new solutions in the hands of brokers? How many MSK surgeries are really necessary?
Chris Hamilton, Heidi Ojha, and Mark Testa joined me in studio to answer those questions and many more in this special bonus episode of Self-Funded with Spencer, The MSK Roundtable.
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Apr 9, 2024 • 52min
Why "HR" Became "People" (with Monica Panetta)
"I always knew there was more. I always knew there was a different dimension to what this personnel or HR thing was." - Monica Panetta
Monica Panetta, Chief People Officer at ParetoHealth (a show sponsor and the company I work for), joined me for an evening podcast in studio as we talked all things HR/People, starting with why the industry has moved away from saying HR.
Monica’s so well-versed in the field that she actually started the HR program at her college as she was attending it, and the curriculum is still taught today. We talk how she got started in the field, how the field has evolved post-COVID, and how she made her way to Pareto.
Join us this week to find out a bit about Pareto, and a lot about what it means to be a Chief People Officer.
Chapters:
00:00:00 Meet Monica Panetta
00:01:38 Employee-Centric Leadership: How HR Has Evolved
00:02:38 Transitioning From “HR” to “People”
00:05:00 Getting Started In HR
00:13:16 Monica’s Career Journey
00:21:31 Strategic Benefits Management As An HR Employee
00:23:31 Empowering Employees Through Mental Health Support Programs
00:24:32 Promoting The EAP Program Internally
00:40:13 Recognizing Every Employee’s Journey
00:41:39 Cultural Compatibility Evaluation In The Hiring Process
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Key Words:
#ChiefPeopleOfficer #HRterminology #CareerExploration #FinancialAcumen #EmployeeAssistancePrograms #UtilizationStrategies #EmployeeExperience #Onboarding #CultureFitAssessment #HRroles #WorkplaceWellness #JobSatisfaction #selffunded #podcast
Chief People Officer, HR terminology, Career Exploration, Financial Acumen, Employee Assistance Programs, Utilization Strategies, Employee Experience, Onboarding, Culture Fit Assessment, HR roles, Workplace Wellness, Job Satisfaction, self funded, podcast

Apr 2, 2024 • 1h 4min
Founding A Healthcare Startup (with Russell Pekala)
"I think the more questions the employer asks, and just the deeper that they're willing to think about this and have already thought about it, the more they're able to buy into this mission." - Russell Pekala
Russell Pekala, co-founder of Yuzu Health, joined me in studio for this week’s episode focused on controlling pharmacy costs and emergency claims.
Yuzu Health is a startup in the TPA space aiming to change how the claims process work. Rather than having the member get care and then deal with lowering costs after the fact, Yuzu pre-adjucates claims when possible, issuing a credit card to members to pay for care and avoiding huge bills on the backend.
In addition to the claims talk, Russell and I chatted about his Harvard days, what founding a dating app was like, and the ramen-related health accident that pushed Russell into the healthcare startup space.
Chapters:
0:00 - Meet Russell Pekala
5:53 - Working On A Dating App At Harvard
08:26 - The Art and Science of Stop Loss Insurance
18:47 - Yuzu's Innovative Startup Health Insurance Solution
20:44 - How Did Yuzu Get Started?
21:45 - Improving Healthcare Transparency and Accessibility with Yuzu
28:48 - Navigating Pharmacy Costs with SmithRX
32:51 - Revolutionizing Emergency Claims in Healthcare
39:26 - Employers Seeking Alternative Healthcare Approaches
54:26 - Revolutionizing healthcare through predictive wearables
Key Links for Social:
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Key Words:
#healthcare #healthinsurance #startups #technology #costcontrol #pharmacy #employers #predictivedata #wearables #futureofinsurance #selffunded #podcast
healthcare, health insurance, startups, technology, cost control, pharmacy, employers, predictive data, wearables, future of insurance, self funded, podcast

Mar 26, 2024 • 51min
Actually Making Healthcare Affordable (with Taylor Rogers)
“To me, a private equity firm should never look at a healthcare vertical and say, God, there's opportunity there. That means that there's profit exploitation to be had in those areas.” - Taylor Rogers
Taylor Rogers, former professional baseball pitcher turned insurance consultant, joined me this week for a podcast focused on profit exploitation in the current healthcare system, and what we need to do as an industry to bring back competition and lower prices.
There are a huge number of people in this space who used to be college or professional athletes, so I was excited to hear what led to Taylor’s baseball career and what also led him to insurance.
Competition is an inherent component of capitalism, one that leads companies to try to lower prices as much as they can to appeal to consumers, but it’s incredibly absent from this field. Join Taylor and I this week on Self Funded as we try to figure out why.
Chapters:
0:00 - Meet Taylor
07:38 - Consistency, in Baseball and Comedy
09:36 - The Importance of Failure in Growth
12:50 - The Evolution of Insurance Consulting Strategies
18:00 - bridging the gap with accessible communication
23:28 - Navigating Risk Management Challenges in Insurance
25:01 - Guiding employees through the healthcare system
31:26 - Limitations of 24/7 emergency care navigation
35:16 - Strategic guidance and business acumen in consulting
46:29 - The Potential of Direct Primary Care
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Key Words:
#insurance #healthcare #consulting #businessstrategy #privateequity #affordablehealthcare #riskmanagement #selffunding #carenavigation #consultingpractice #podcast #selffunded
insurance, healthcare, consulting, business strategy, private equity, affordable healthcare, risk management, self funding, care navigation, consulting practice, podcast, self funded

Mar 19, 2024 • 1h 8min
Leveling The Healthcare Playing Field (with Gentry Lynn)
“You can have the same provider, same treatment, two different locations, different outcomes.” - Gentry Lynn
Gentry Lynn, VP at Healthcare Bluebook, joined me this week to discuss what it means to actually make an impact in this industry, why there’s so much cost variance between locations, and how we can more effectively engage members to use new solutions.
One of the key points of our discussion was that there are actual health outcome and cost ramifications to which location patients get their care from, even if the provider is exactly the same.
The impact of what we do is a frequent topic of this podcast, and in this episode we dive deep into what it means to try to make positive change in such a huge and frequently old-fashioned industry.
Chapters:
0:00 - Meet Gentry
02:49 - Gentry Lynn's Journey into the Insurance Industry
19:24 - Remote Collaboration and Specialization in Our Industry
23:19 - Healthcare Cost and Quality Transparency Tool
31:19 - The Impact of Medical Cost Transparency
37:18 - Evaluating Doctors for Optimal Medical Care
46:11 - Cost Variance By Location
51:59 - Personalized Communication leads to Member Engagement
54:05 - Surprising Disparities in Healthcare Procedure Costs
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Key Words:
#healthinsurance #healthcare #bluebook #employersolutions #costandquality #centersofexcellence #employermindsets #dataintegration #claimvalidation #costvariance #podcast #selffunded
health insurance, healthcare, bluebook, employer solutions, cost and quality, centers of excellence, employer mindsets, data integration, claim validation, cost variance, podcast, self funded

Mar 12, 2024 • 1h 17min
Is Ozempic A Sustainable Solution? (with Durrell Finch)
“It's like the Wizard of Oz, I think, or The Matrix. You have this veil that as the participant in it for so long, you just don't think about your benefits. But I think when you kind of peel back the curtain and you're looking at the greed of it and how everyone is getting paid on people being sick, it's gross. And I don't vibe with it.” - Durrell Finch
Anyone who listens to the show should know by now that I’m a huge proponent of personal wellness, healthy eating, and exercise, which is why I was super excited to have Durrell Finch join me for this week’s episode.
Durrell is a former fitness trainer and the VP of Business Development for BioCoach, a company focusing on employee wellness through end-to-end obesity and diabetes care and prevention.
We discussed some simple and practical ways to better structure workouts, then jumped into our main topic: GLP-1s, the new class of weight loss drugs, and how employers should assess their role in wellness.
Join Durrell and I on this week’s wellness-focused episode of Self Funded, and stick to the end to see if I can properly stand up from a criss-cross position!
Chapters:
0:00 - Meet Durrell
04:52 - The Healing Power of Movement
16:49 - Improving Performance through Mindfulness and Biomechanics
17:40 - Navigating Covid Challenges As A Fitness Trainer
30:46 - Biocoach: Data-driven Wellness with Personalized Support
38:05 - Fostering Camaraderie and Personal Growth in the Workplace
42:01 - Affordable and Accessible Healthy Eating Strategies
48:50 - The Role of Muscle in Long-Term Weight Loss
51:06 - Promoting Sustainable Weight Loss through Education
53:28 - Structured Weight Loss Program with Drug Progression
58:12 - Financial Implications of Healthcare Choices
01:06:50 - Revolutionizing Health and Wellness with Fitness Tracking
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Key Words:
#ozempic #weightlossdrugs #movement #exercise #wellness #health #fitness #psychology #personalgrowth #mobility #legstrength #biocoach #healing #selffunded #podcast
Ozempic, Weight Loss Drugs, Movement, Exercise, Wellness, health, fitness, psychology, personal growth, mobility, leg strength, biocoach, healing, self funded, podcast

Mar 5, 2024 • 58min
How Adapting to Regulations Can Benefit Your Practice (with Jen Berman)
"Compliance does not have to be a burden. It doesn't have to be hard. It can be a value differentiator and an opportunity to really help people." - Jen Berman
Jen Berman joined me this week to close out our trilogy of compliance episodes. We focused on why regulations exist, the purpose of recent legislation like the CAA, and why it’s important for consultants to learn the compliance process.
Jen is the CEO of MZQ Consulting (not an acronym, as we discuss in the episode), a leading provider of compliance solutions in the industry. Recent compliance has shifted the burden onto employers to make sure their plans are compliant, including making sure that their mental healthcare is in parity with normal healthcare.
As Jen said on the episode, compliance is typically viewed as a burden, but for consultants, it shouldn’t be: it’s an opportunity to differentiate yourself in the market and provide a next level of service to employers.
Join Jen and I this week for another compliance-focused episode of Self-Funded.
Chapters:
0:00 - Meet Jen
2:23 - The Impact of ACA on Healthcare Industry
17:24 - Anticipating Gag Clauses: CAA Compliance Solutions
19:43 - Mental Health Care Should Equal Health Care
27:02 - Employer Investigations
36:23 - Tracking Money Flow and Compliance
41:57 - Gag Clauses and Restricted Access to Plan Information
49:22 - The influential role of compliance professionals
54:53 - The importance of regulatory schemes in healthcare
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Key Words:
#ACA #CAA #healthcare #compliance #regulations #AffordableCareAct #mentalhealthparity #governmentinvestigation #prescriptiondrugdata #gagclauses #complianceprofessionals #selffunded #podcast
ACA, CAA, healthcare, compliance, regulations, Affordable Care Act, mental health parity, government investigation, prescription drug data, gag clauses, compliance professionals, self funded, podcast

Feb 27, 2024 • 1h 11min
The No Surprises Act and Consumer Protection In Healthcare (with Josh Schreiner & Michael Mather)
"When consumers understand that they can get the same level of care at half the price, they feel good about making that decision." - Josh Schreiner
“We're actually going to collapse that concept entirely. Everyone's in network from your perspective, from the consumer, from the patient perspective." - Michael Mather
Continuing from last week’s theme of compliance and regulation, Josh Schreiner, Chief Product Officer, and Michael Mather, General Counsel, of HealthEZ joined me for a discussion on the effects of the No Surprises Act on the healthcare industry as a whole, and how it affects consultants as they work with employers.
At HealthEZ, Josh and Michael have been looking ahead to the future of healthcare and how the recent regulations have impacted that, including a returned focus to consumer decisions in their own healthcare and an increased focus on employer compliance. For consultants, these are particularly important topics as consultant responsibilities shift in response to the legislation.
Join Josh, Michael, and I as we break down the No Surprises Act, offering our insights and hopefully some practical guidance on navigating this crucial piece of healthcare legislation.
Chapters:
0:00 - Meet Josh & Michael
1:23 - Empowering Consumer Decisions through Healthcare Transparency
5:44 - Navigating Healthcare Compliance
16:22 - Protecting Patients Through The No Surprises Act
23:19 - The High Volume of Disputes
30:39 - Increasing contract disputes impacting healthcare reimbursement
38:05 - Transparent Healthcare Information
40:50 - The Impact of Transparent Healthcare Pricing
50:30 - Gag Clause Attestation and Compliance Challenges
58:34 - Balancing Guidelines and Innovation in Healthcare
1:04:55 - Leveraging Wearables and Data for Personalized Healthcare
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Key Words:
#healthcare #transparency #compliance #innovation #selffunded #medicalcosts #consumerinformation #futureofhealthcare #wearables #datadriven #nosurprisesact #regulation #podcast
Healthcare, Transparency, Compliance, Innovation, Self Funded, Medical Costs, Consumer Information, Future Of Healthcare, Wearables, Data Driven, No Surprises Act, Regulation, Podcast

Feb 20, 2024 • 1h 14min
Don't Get Sued: Compliance In The CAA Era (with Sarah Borders)
“The CAA was the most significant piece of healthcare legislation that we've had since the ACA.” - Sarah Borders
Healthcare compliance, especially post-CAA, can be a complex thing for employers to navigate. There’s an increased level of scrutiny on employers, with heavy fees for those who don’t comply.
This week on Self-Funded with Spencer I’m joined by Sarah Borders, co-founder of Benefits Compliance Solutions. Here are a few key takeaways for consultants:
Understanding compliance: Navigating the complex regulations and avoid costly mistakes.
Turning compliance into an advantage: Discover how you as a consultant can leverage compliance as a prospecting tool, saving clients from lawsuits, penalties, and headaches.
Embracing the benefits of regulation: Understand the purpose of the CAA and how it exposes bad practices, ultimately improving healthcare for everyone.
Join us this week on Self-Funded with Spencer to learn how to not get sued.
Chapters:
0:00 - Meet Sarah Borders
6:37 - Sarah’s Journey To Compliance Expertise
14:05 - The Shift Towards Data-Driven Compliance
17:33 - Remote Work As An Entrepreneur
27:01 - Effective Communication = Effective Information
34:57 - Legal Repercussions Of Cobra Compliance
41:34 - Group Health Plan Compliance
46:20 - Yearly Attestation
54:04 - The Impact Of Regulations On Transparency
1:01:21 - Empowering Clients and Consultants
1:04:38 - The Impact Of CAA On Group Health Plans
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Key Words:
#insurance #compliance #industrytrends #ACA #caa #levelfundedplans #Cobra #CobraCompliance #grouphealthplan #ConsolidatedAppropriationsAct #attestation #regulations #consulting #futureofcompliance #healthcarecompliance #selffunded #selffunding #podcast
Insurance, Compliance, Industry Trends, ACA, CAA, Cobra, Cobra Compliance, Group Health Plan, Consolidated Appropriations Act, Attestation, Regulations, Consulting, Future Of Compliance, Healthcare Compliance, Self Funded, Self Funding, Podcast