

Self-Funded
Spencer Smith
Self-Funded, hosted by Spencer Smith, is the definitive resource for benefits consultants and employers who are ready to challenge the broken healthcare status quo. Each week, you'll get an insider's playbook of actionable strategies from industry leaders that help make healthcare better, together.
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Jan 27, 2026 • 52min
Alcoholism in the Insurance Industry | with Chris Leverett
Chris Leverett, EVP and Managing Director of Employee Benefits at TexCap who overcame high-functioning alcoholism while keeping career and family intact. He recounts the slippery slide from social drinking to dependence. He describes a family crisis that sparked change. He explains trading alcohol for endurance sports, daily recovery routines, and strategies for navigating alcohol-heavy industry events.

Jan 20, 2026 • 1h 6min
Is This iPhone App The Future Of Primary Care? | with VivaScore
This week features Simon Spurr, Founder of VivaScore, a digital health visionary, and Chris Burns, a seasoned benefits advisor with a rich history at firms like Mercer. They dive into the revolutionary rPPG technology that allows users to assess vital health metrics using just their smartphone camera. Discussing its potential to transform primary care, they explore how this platform helps employers identify health risks early, boosts engagement, and creates personalized care pathways—all while paving the way for a proactive approach to wellness.

Jan 13, 2026 • 1h 15min
Universities Failed HR. Kyle Minick Is Fixing It
Kyle Minick, Vice President of Employee Benefits at Summit Financial Group, tackles the alarming gap in benefits education for HR professionals. He discusses universities' minimal focus on healthcare strategy and the creation of a six-week accredited course to address this failure. Kyle highlights the struggles of reference-based pricing in Texas and the misaligned incentives of using Medicare rates as a benchmark. He aims to equip students with the skills to audit vendors and demand better health plan management, significantly changing the HR landscape.

Jan 6, 2026 • 58min
Why Employees Actually Use Onsite Clinics (Convenience Is King!)
In a thought-provoking discussion, Chris Yarn, founder of Walk On Clinic, reveals why convenience is critical in healthcare. He shares his innovative journey from insurance broker to creating a direct primary care model that delivers healthcare directly to employees. Chris exposes the shortcomings of traditional clinics and highlights the success of mobile onsite care, boasting double the industry utilization rates. He emphasizes the importance of early detection, supported by his personal cancer experience, and offers insights on proving ROI through real claims data.

Dec 31, 2025 • 27min
Tier-Ranking the Biggest Healthcare Stories of 2025 | Last Month In Healthcare
If you'd like your question answered on next month's episode, call/text 469-213-6381 and leave us a voicemail/text.Each month on Last Month In Healthcare, producer Nathaniel joins me to discuss the previous month's podcasts, headlines, and listener-submitted questions.This month, we’re doing something a little different to close out 2025. Instead of just looking back at December, we are ranking the biggest healthcare stories of the entire year on a Tier List, from "Not Impactful" to "Super Impactful." We cover everything from the FTC suing the Big 3 PBMs and the J&J fiduciary lawsuit dismissal to the "bloodbath" of 2026 renewals and the explosion of GLP-1 usage.Plus, we debut a new "Explain Like I'm 5" segment where I break down complex concepts like Reference-Based Pricing, Captives, and Stop-Loss using simple analogies involving candy shops and dirt bikes. Finally, we answer a listener question about building confidence as a young professional in the industry.Chapters:0:00 - Intro: Last Year in Healthcare0:51 - Tier List19:05 - Explaining Insurance To A 5-year-old24:24 - Ask Spencer Anything

Dec 23, 2025 • 1h 8min
Why "Co-opetition" Is The Future Of Healthcare | with Dutch Rojas
Dutch Rojas, a healthcare entrepreneur and strategist, dives into his vision of 'co-opetition' in healthcare. He highlights how hospitals exploit price arbitrage, charging significantly more for the same services, harming independent practices. Dutch discusses the need for independent providers to unite, leveraging collective buying power for benefits. He also shares insights on creating a 'Healthcare Commodities Exchange' to normalize pricing and why CFOs should lead healthcare decisions. His journey from the Netherlands to the U.S. adds a personal touch to his bold ideas.

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Dec 16, 2025 • 1h 1min
21% Of Medical Care Is Unnecessary. Here’s How We Prevent It.
Will Bruhn, CEO and co-founder of Global Appropriateness Measures, sheds light on a shocking statistic: 21% of medical care is unnecessary. He discusses how traditional quality metrics focus too much on outcomes rather than appropriateness, leading to wasteful practices in healthcare. Real-world examples, like unnecessary spinal fusions and the surge in Friday afternoon C-sections, reveal financial incentives at play. Will also outlines how data can steer patients towards high-value care, ultimately aiming to eliminate this wasteful spending.

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Dec 9, 2025 • 60min
The "Virtual Wallet" Strategy for Lowering Medical Claims
Cory Morin, Co-founder of Benji Card, is a fintech entrepreneur transforming healthcare payments with his innovative virtual wallet strategy. He discusses how giving care coordinators instant access to funds can significantly lower medical claim costs. Cory reveals how Benji Card enables immediate payments to providers, leading to substantial discounts for employers. He believes this model could make traditional PPO networks obsolete and predicts a future of tiered zero-dollar benefits in healthcare. Tune in to discover this revolutionary approach to cost containment!

Dec 5, 2025 • 51min
Why Did They Dismiss The J&J Lawsuit? | with Chris Hamilton
If you'd like your question answered on next month's episode, call/text 469-213-6381 and leave us a voicemail/text.Each month on Last Month In Healthcare, producer Nathaniel joins me to discuss the previous month's podcasts, headlines, and listener-submitted questions. This month, we’re joined by Chris Hamilton! We talk about the J&J lawsuit being dismissed, Eli Lilly switching PBMs, AI in healthcare, and much more. We also play a Christmas game called Home Alone: The Wet Bandit's Bills, where Chris and I try to guess the average hospital price for the injuries incurred by the bandits from the Home Alone films.Chapters: 0:00 - Intro0:42 - J&J Lawsuit Dismissed9:20 - Eli Lily Switches PBMs11:17 - New FDA Rules On Biosimilars16:36 - AI Adoption In The Healthcare Industry25:21 - Survey On At-Home Medical Devices29:57 - Home Alone: The Wet Bandit's Bills42:32 - Ask Spencer AnythingSources: https://www.healthcaredive.com/news/fda-biosimilars-guidance-speed-development-comparative-efficacy-studies/804191/https://www.beckerspayer.com/legal/judge-dismisses-lawsuit-accusing-jj-of-mismanaging-employee-drug-benefits/?origin=PayerE&utm_source=PayerE&utm_medium=email&utm_content=newsletterhttps://www.healthcare-brew.com/stories/2025/11/25/eli-lilly-switches-big-3-pbm-alternative-transparent-rivalhttps://www.fiercehealthcare.com/health-tech/amid-shutdown-health-it-vendors-say-hospitals-are-cutting-back-spendinghttps://www.techtarget.com/virtualhealthcare/news/366633680/Survey-At-home-monitoring-devices-popular-affordablehttps://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41265449/https://www.emarketer.com/content/ai-spending-healthcare-outpaces-overall-us-economy-

Dec 2, 2025 • 1h 5min
Why Private Equity is Pouring Billions Into Healthcare
"Success leaves clues. And sometimes that clue is healthy leadership that is just able to take them from plateau to plateau." - Trey MarinelloMy guest this week, Trey Marinello of Houlihan Lokey, is an expert in a topic everyone is constantly talking about: Private Equity. Trey joined the show to demystify the world of investment banking and explain exactly why private equity firms are pouring billions of dollars into the employer-sponsored healthcare space.Trey breaks down the current trends, explaining why PE isn't just about leverage and debt, but about "turning the propeller faster" through distribution expertise and strategic growth. We discuss why categories like TPAs, cost containment, and innovative funding models are red-hot, while "wellness" and "population health" have struggled to prove their ROI.We also explore the potential of AI to revolutionize mental health care, why “ICHRA” is still a wild card, and how smart brokers are becoming essential value-drivers in M&A deals.Tune in for a masterclass on following the money in healthcare!Chapters:(00:00:00) Why Private Equity is Pouring Billions Into Employer Healthcare(00:00:35) Why Private Equity Loves Healthcare (00:08:59) What Does an Investment Banker Actually Do? (00:17:25) How PE Firms Use Distribution to Scale (00:20:06) Is ICHRA the Future or a Fad? (00:28:50) The Rise of Alternative Funding (00:42:34) Why "Wellness" Investments Failed (00:57:16) How Brokers Drive Enterprise Value (01:02:47) The Hottest Category in Healthcare M&AKey Links for Social:@SelfFunded on YouTube for video versions of the podcast and much more - https://www.youtube.com/@SelfFundedListen/watch on Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/1TjmrMrkIj0qSmlwAIevKA?si=068a389925474f02Listen on Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/self-funded-with-spencer/id1566182286Follow Spencer on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/spencer-smith-self-funded/Follow Spencer on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/selffundedwithspencer/


