
The Smart Economy Podcast: Real-World Blockchain Applications with Crypto, DeFi, NFTs, and DAOs
The Smart Economy Podcast features interviews with some of the most interesting people within the blockchain industry, working to make the new smart economy a reality.
Latest episodes

Apr 5, 2023 • 1h 7min
S1E33 - ETH Denver 2023: An Outlook on the Blockchain Industry from BUIDLers’ Perspectives
Episode Notes
In this special edition of the Smart Economy Podcast, where we take you on a journey through ETH Denver 2023, held Colorado, USA. For this this episode, we visited the ETH Denver event and spoke with a diverse group of people in the blockchain space.
Throughout our conversations, we explore various perspectives on the current state of the crypto space, the benefits of in-person events, the evolving culture of blockchain, and the driving forces that led individuals to join this rapidly evolving industry.
We discuss the challenges and rewards of communicating complex blockchain concepts to those outside the field and delve into the collaborative and supportive nature of the blockchain community that fosters innovation. As the industry matures, we examine the changing dynamics and culture within the community and how in-person events play a crucial role in building relationships and fostering collaboration among remote team members.
We hope you'll enjoy the wide range of insights, stories, and experiences shared in this episode. To stay in the loop, subscribe to our YouTube channel and follow us on Twitter and TikTok.Previous guests include: Rusty Matveev, Chief Strategy Officer at Calaxy; Andrew Lawrence, CEO and Co-Founder of Censo; Zac Townsend, CEO and Co-Founder of Meanwhile; Jesper Johansen, CEO and Co-Founder of Northstake; Tama Churchouse, COO of Cumberland Labs; Holly Wood of Boson Protocol; Sid Powell of Maple Finance; Chad Barraford of THORChain; and many others.Check out our three most downloaded episodes:Laying the Groundwork for a Billion-User Blockchain with Rich Rines, Contributor at Core DAOStaking the Future: From Blockchain Beginnings to Institutional Innovations with Chen Zhuling of RockXThe Unstoppable Nature of Blockchain: A Conversation with Bonart Mati of ObligateAttention all blockchain, crypto, and Web3 professionals! If you're a founder, CEO, or expert doing something innovative in this space, we're interested in speaking to you! Apply to be a guest on our platform and connect with our vibrant community of blockchain professionals: https://fame.so/nnt-guestThe Smart Economy Podcast is handcrafted by our friends over at fame.so

Mar 29, 2023 • 53min
S1E32 - Jackson Zeng - Caleb & Brown | Crypto Brokerage Firms and Specialized Services
Episode Notes
In this episode of the Smart Economy Podcast, we speak with Jackson Zeng, CEO of Caleb & Brown. Topics discussed include getting into crypto through game item marketplaces, starting a company in a blossoming industry without a clear regulatory outlook, how Caleb & Brown offer personalized services for their clients, and the types of assets their clients are interested in.
To stay in the loop, subscribe to our YouTube channel and follow us on Twitter and TikTok.Previous guests include: Rusty Matveev, Chief Strategy Officer at Calaxy; Andrew Lawrence, CEO and Co-Founder of Censo; Zac Townsend, CEO and Co-Founder of Meanwhile; Jesper Johansen, CEO and Co-Founder of Northstake; Tama Churchouse, COO of Cumberland Labs; Holly Wood of Boson Protocol; Sid Powell of Maple Finance; Chad Barraford of THORChain; and many others.Check out our three most downloaded episodes:Laying the Groundwork for a Billion-User Blockchain with Rich Rines, Contributor at Core DAOStaking the Future: From Blockchain Beginnings to Institutional Innovations with Chen Zhuling of RockXThe Unstoppable Nature of Blockchain: A Conversation with Bonart Mati of ObligateAttention all blockchain, crypto, and Web3 professionals! If you're a founder, CEO, or expert doing something innovative in this space, we're interested in speaking to you! Apply to be a guest on our platform and connect with our vibrant community of blockchain professionals: https://fame.so/nnt-guestThe Smart Economy Podcast is handcrafted by our friends over at fame.so

Mar 15, 2023 • 57min
S1E31 - Brendan Sullivan - Alien Worlds | Improving DAOs Through Blockchain Gaming
Episode Notes
In this episode of the Smart Economy Podcast, we speak with Brendan Sullivan, CPO of Dacoco - the creator of Alien Worlds. Topics discussed include how his professional journey through tech and product management led to building DAO technology at Dacoco, the democratization of content, the various use cases for DAOs, and the grants for builders to create in the Alien Worlds ecosystem.
To stay in the loop, subscribe to our YouTube channel and follow us on Twitter and TikTok.Previous guests include: Rusty Matveev, Chief Strategy Officer at Calaxy; Andrew Lawrence, CEO and Co-Founder of Censo; Zac Townsend, CEO and Co-Founder of Meanwhile; Jesper Johansen, CEO and Co-Founder of Northstake; Tama Churchouse, COO of Cumberland Labs; Holly Wood of Boson Protocol; Sid Powell of Maple Finance; Chad Barraford of THORChain; and many others.Check out our three most downloaded episodes:Laying the Groundwork for a Billion-User Blockchain with Rich Rines, Contributor at Core DAOStaking the Future: From Blockchain Beginnings to Institutional Innovations with Chen Zhuling of RockXThe Unstoppable Nature of Blockchain: A Conversation with Bonart Mati of ObligateAttention all blockchain, crypto, and Web3 professionals! If you're a founder, CEO, or expert doing something innovative in this space, we're interested in speaking to you! Apply to be a guest on our platform and connect with our vibrant community of blockchain professionals: https://fame.so/nnt-guestThe Smart Economy Podcast is handcrafted by our friends over at fame.so

Mar 8, 2023 • 55min
S1E30 - Sarah Thiam - Protocol Labs | File Storage and Smart Contracts for Open Data Economies
Episode Notes
In this episode of the Smart Economy Podcast, we speak with Sarah Thiam, a developer advocate for Filecoin VM at Protocol Labs. Topics discussed include lessons learned from her previous experience in both the government and enterprise, the significance of combining smart contracts with decentralized storage, supporting teams that are new to the ecosystem, and protocol agnosticism for the multi-chain future.
To stay in the loop, subscribe to our YouTube channel and follow us on Twitter and TikTok.Previous guests include: Rusty Matveev, Chief Strategy Officer at Calaxy; Andrew Lawrence, CEO and Co-Founder of Censo; Zac Townsend, CEO and Co-Founder of Meanwhile; Jesper Johansen, CEO and Co-Founder of Northstake; Tama Churchouse, COO of Cumberland Labs; Holly Wood of Boson Protocol; Sid Powell of Maple Finance; Chad Barraford of THORChain; and many others.Check out our three most downloaded episodes:Laying the Groundwork for a Billion-User Blockchain with Rich Rines, Contributor at Core DAOStaking the Future: From Blockchain Beginnings to Institutional Innovations with Chen Zhuling of RockXThe Unstoppable Nature of Blockchain: A Conversation with Bonart Mati of ObligateAttention all blockchain, crypto, and Web3 professionals! If you're a founder, CEO, or expert doing something innovative in this space, we're interested in speaking to you! Apply to be a guest on our platform and connect with our vibrant community of blockchain professionals: https://fame.so/nnt-guestThe Smart Economy Podcast is handcrafted by our friends over at fame.so

Mar 1, 2023 • 1h 1min
S1E29 - Sakhib Waseem - Astra Protocol | Decentralized Identity Solutions for Financial Institutions
Episode Notes
In this episode of the Smart Economy Podcast, we speak with Sakhib Waseem, CTO of Astra Protocol. Topics discussed include how his background in banking impacted his perspective on blockchain, where the financial industry is today with regards to implementing blockchain technology into their tech architecture, and the role Astra plays in decentralized identity solutions.
To stay in the loop, subscribe to our YouTube channel and follow us on Twitter and TikTok.Previous guests include: Rusty Matveev, Chief Strategy Officer at Calaxy; Andrew Lawrence, CEO and Co-Founder of Censo; Zac Townsend, CEO and Co-Founder of Meanwhile; Jesper Johansen, CEO and Co-Founder of Northstake; Tama Churchouse, COO of Cumberland Labs; Holly Wood of Boson Protocol; Sid Powell of Maple Finance; Chad Barraford of THORChain; and many others.Check out our three most downloaded episodes:Laying the Groundwork for a Billion-User Blockchain with Rich Rines, Contributor at Core DAOStaking the Future: From Blockchain Beginnings to Institutional Innovations with Chen Zhuling of RockXThe Unstoppable Nature of Blockchain: A Conversation with Bonart Mati of ObligateAttention all blockchain, crypto, and Web3 professionals! If you're a founder, CEO, or expert doing something innovative in this space, we're interested in speaking to you! Apply to be a guest on our platform and connect with our vibrant community of blockchain professionals: https://fame.so/nnt-guestThe Smart Economy Podcast is handcrafted by our friends over at fame.so

Feb 22, 2023 • 56min
S1E28 - Al Morris - Koii Network | Decentralized Architecture for the Attention Economy
Episode Notes
In this episode of the Smart Economy Podcast, we speak with Al Morris, founder of Koii Network. Topics discussed include empowering users by giving them control over their data, building a decentralized internet, rewarding users for contributing resources, the various iterations of the Koii Network, and upcoming releases.
To stay in the loop, subscribe to our YouTube channel and follow us on Twitter and TikTok.Previous guests include: Rusty Matveev, Chief Strategy Officer at Calaxy; Andrew Lawrence, CEO and Co-Founder of Censo; Zac Townsend, CEO and Co-Founder of Meanwhile; Jesper Johansen, CEO and Co-Founder of Northstake; Tama Churchouse, COO of Cumberland Labs; Holly Wood of Boson Protocol; Sid Powell of Maple Finance; Chad Barraford of THORChain; and many others.Check out our three most downloaded episodes:Laying the Groundwork for a Billion-User Blockchain with Rich Rines, Contributor at Core DAOStaking the Future: From Blockchain Beginnings to Institutional Innovations with Chen Zhuling of RockXThe Unstoppable Nature of Blockchain: A Conversation with Bonart Mati of ObligateAttention all blockchain, crypto, and Web3 professionals! If you're a founder, CEO, or expert doing something innovative in this space, we're interested in speaking to you! Apply to be a guest on our platform and connect with our vibrant community of blockchain professionals: https://fame.so/nnt-guestThe Smart Economy Podcast is handcrafted by our friends over at fame.so

Feb 8, 2023 • 56min
S1E27 - Sid Powell - Maple Finance | Blockchain Networks and Debt Capital Market Efficiency
Episode Notes
In this episode of the Smart Economy Podcast, we speak with Sid Powell, CEO and co-founder of Maple Finance. Topics discussed include his background in debt capital markets at a bank and conversely on the client side at a lending business, the conceptualization of Maple Finance to its 2021 launch, the types of institutional clients Maple Finance seeks, and offering loans backed on assets that aren’t correlated with crypto.
To stay in the loop, subscribe to our YouTube channel and follow us on Twitter and TikTok.Previous guests include: Rusty Matveev, Chief Strategy Officer at Calaxy; Andrew Lawrence, CEO and Co-Founder of Censo; Zac Townsend, CEO and Co-Founder of Meanwhile; Jesper Johansen, CEO and Co-Founder of Northstake; Tama Churchouse, COO of Cumberland Labs; Holly Wood of Boson Protocol; Sid Powell of Maple Finance; Chad Barraford of THORChain; and many others.Check out our three most downloaded episodes:Laying the Groundwork for a Billion-User Blockchain with Rich Rines, Contributor at Core DAOStaking the Future: From Blockchain Beginnings to Institutional Innovations with Chen Zhuling of RockXThe Unstoppable Nature of Blockchain: A Conversation with Bonart Mati of ObligateAttention all blockchain, crypto, and Web3 professionals! If you're a founder, CEO, or expert doing something innovative in this space, we're interested in speaking to you! Apply to be a guest on our platform and connect with our vibrant community of blockchain professionals: https://fame.so/nnt-guestThe Smart Economy Podcast is handcrafted by our friends over at fame.so

Feb 1, 2023 • 59min
S1E26 - Seamus Donoghue - METACO | Preparing for the Next Wave of Institutions
Episode Notes
In this episode of the Smart Economy Podcast, we speak with Seamus Donoghue, Chief Growth Officer at METACO. Topics discussed include lessons learned working for an exchange in 2017 and 2018 during the ICO craze, how well-defined regulations positively impact crypto companies, how banks are looking into blockchain-based solutions, the outlook institutions are developing for crypto’s future, and how METACO services its institutional clients.Previous guests include: Rusty Matveev, Chief Strategy Officer at Calaxy; Andrew Lawrence, CEO and Co-Founder of Censo; Zac Townsend, CEO and Co-Founder of Meanwhile; Jesper Johansen, CEO and Co-Founder of Northstake; Tama Churchouse, COO of Cumberland Labs; Holly Wood of Boson Protocol; Sid Powell of Maple Finance; Chad Barraford of THORChain; and many others.Check out our three most downloaded episodes:Laying the Groundwork for a Billion-User Blockchain with Rich Rines, Contributor at Core DAOStaking the Future: From Blockchain Beginnings to Institutional Innovations with Chen Zhuling of RockXThe Unstoppable Nature of Blockchain: A Conversation with Bonart Mati of ObligateAttention all blockchain, crypto, and Web3 professionals! If you're a founder, CEO, or expert doing something innovative in this space, we're interested in speaking to you! Apply to be a guest on our platform and connect with our vibrant community of blockchain professionals: https://fame.so/nnt-guestThe Smart Economy Podcast is handcrafted by our friends over at fame.so

Jan 11, 2023 • 57min
S1E25 - Willy Ogorzaly - Fox Foundation | Managing DeFi Platforms, From the Ground Up
Episode Notes
In this episode of the Smart Economy Podcast, we speak with Willy Ogorzaly, Head of Decentralization at Fox Foundation. Topics discussed include his first startup and how that parlayed into getting acquihired by the then centralized ShapeShift, what it was like working through a bear market while ShapeShift was also facing an existential and philosophical dilemma, how the new ShapeShift DAO operates, and building a community among decentralized builders.Previous guests include: Rusty Matveev, Chief Strategy Officer at Calaxy; Andrew Lawrence, CEO and Co-Founder of Censo; Zac Townsend, CEO and Co-Founder of Meanwhile; Jesper Johansen, CEO and Co-Founder of Northstake; Tama Churchouse, COO of Cumberland Labs; Holly Wood of Boson Protocol; Sid Powell of Maple Finance; Chad Barraford of THORChain; and many others.Check out our three most downloaded episodes:Laying the Groundwork for a Billion-User Blockchain with Rich Rines, Contributor at Core DAOStaking the Future: From Blockchain Beginnings to Institutional Innovations with Chen Zhuling of RockXThe Unstoppable Nature of Blockchain: A Conversation with Bonart Mati of ObligateAttention all blockchain, crypto, and Web3 professionals! If you're a founder, CEO, or expert doing something innovative in this space, we're interested in speaking to you! Apply to be a guest on our platform and connect with our vibrant community of blockchain professionals: https://fame.so/nnt-guestThe Smart Economy Podcast is handcrafted by our friends over at fame.so

Jan 4, 2023 • 60min
S1E24 - Chad Barraford - THORChain | Empowering Users Through Decentralized Finance
Episode Notes
In this episode of the Smart Economy Podcast, we speak with Chad Barraford, a core developer at THORChain. Discussion topics include the importance of a decentralized multi-chain swapping protocol, the risks associated with blockchain-to-blockchain bridges, THORChain’s synthetic assets versus wrapped assets on other networks, and the protocol's economic security model.
51:48 - "Lending Design"Previous guests include: Rusty Matveev, Chief Strategy Officer at Calaxy; Andrew Lawrence, CEO and Co-Founder of Censo; Zac Townsend, CEO and Co-Founder of Meanwhile; Jesper Johansen, CEO and Co-Founder of Northstake; Tama Churchouse, COO of Cumberland Labs; Holly Wood of Boson Protocol; Sid Powell of Maple Finance; Chad Barraford of THORChain; and many others.Check out our three most downloaded episodes:Laying the Groundwork for a Billion-User Blockchain with Rich Rines, Contributor at Core DAOStaking the Future: From Blockchain Beginnings to Institutional Innovations with Chen Zhuling of RockXThe Unstoppable Nature of Blockchain: A Conversation with Bonart Mati of ObligateAttention all blockchain, crypto, and Web3 professionals! If you're a founder, CEO, or expert doing something innovative in this space, we're interested in speaking to you! Apply to be a guest on our platform and connect with our vibrant community of blockchain professionals: https://fame.so/nnt-guestThe Smart Economy Podcast is handcrafted by our friends over at fame.so