

The Accounting Podcast
Blake Oliver & David Leary
The Accounting Podcast (formerly the Cloud Accounting Podcast) is the world's #1 accounting, bookkeeping, and tax podcast! Join us weekly for a roundup of accounting news, analysis, and interviews. Plus, earn free NASBA-approved CPE credits for listening with the Earmark app. Learn more at https://earmarkcpe.com.
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Aug 20, 2025 • 1h 14min
Can ChatGPT Agent Mode Reconcile My Checking Account?
Can an AI reconcile your books while you sleep? Blake and David run a live experiment with ChatGPT-5’s Agent Mode in Xero—watching it match transactions, stumble on prepayments, and reveal what’s realistically automatable today. They also break down a flood of app news: Dext's bill pay, Ramp’s mega raise, Thomson Reuters and Deloitte’s agentic AI, plus Ignition–Financial Cents and Canopy portal moves. They dig into survey findings showing that 58% of employees are secretly using AI at work despite company bans, and take a look at how AI is disrupting the job market for college graduates. SponsorsTeamUp - http://accountingpodcast.promo/teamupRelay - http://accountingpodcast.promo/relayHuman at Scale - http://accountingpodcast.promo/humanMissive - http://accountingpodcast.promo/missiveChapters(01:32) - Exploring AI in Accounting
(02:20) - Testing ChatGPT for Accounting Tasks
(05:26) - Reconciling Transactions with AI
(10:27) - App News
(18:34) - AI and Automation in Accounting
(23:29) - Recent Raises and Acquisitions
(31:10) - Government and Regulatory Updates
(35:14) - AI Agent Struggles with Prepayment
(35:39) - VC Investments in Accounting Firms
(37:43) - Ignition and Financial Sense Integration
(40:13) - Canopy's Smart Intake and AI Innovations
(42:58) - AI in the Workplace: Surveys and Insights
(44:39) - AI Agent Finally Figures Out Prepayment
(52:36) - AI's Limitations and Future Potential
(01:01:55) - Fundraising and AI in Accounting Apps
(01:12:28) - Impact of AI on the market
(01:13:42) - Conclusion and CPE Information
Show NotesProduct Specialist-Accounting,AI - Xerohttps://builtinlondon.uk/job/product-specialist-accounting-ai/6683466Rillet raises $70M to replace 20th-century accounting software with AI-native ERP built by accountantshttps://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2025/08/06/3128328/0/en/Rillet-raises-70M-to-replace-20th-century-accounting-software-with-AI-native-ERP-built-by-accountants.htmlAI accounting startup Rillet raises $70 million in Andreessen Horowitz, ICONIQ-led roundhttps://www.investing.com/news/economy-news/ai-accounting-startup-rillet-raises-70-million-in-andreessen-horowitz-iconiqled-round-4172975Ramp Raises $500 Million at $22.5 Billion Valuation to Accelerate AI and Build the Future of Financehttps://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/ramp-raises-500-million-at-22-5-billion-valuation-to-accelerate-ai-and-build-the-future-of-finance-302516953.htmlRamp hits $22.5B valuation just 45 days after reaching $16Bhttps://techcrunch.com/2025/07/30/ramp-hits-22-5b-valuation-just-45-days-after-reaching-16b/IRS, White House clashed over immigrants' data before Billy Long was oustedhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/08/09/trump-administration-irs-data-dispute/Trump replaces IRS Commissioner Billy Long with Scott Bessenthttps://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/08/08/billy-long-irs-commissioner-bessent/Trump ousts Billy Long as IRS commissioner, names Bessent acting headhttps://www.cnn.com/2025/08/08/politics/billy-long-ousted-irs-commissionerIRS Chief Forced Out After Immigrant Tax Data Pushback—Reporthttps://www.newsweek.com/irs-chief-forced-immigrant-tax-data-pushback-report-2111292Billy Long's IRS ouster follows clashes with Treasury, sparks concernhttps://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5449180-treasury-clashes-irs-commissioner/Need CPE?Get CPE for listening to podcasts with Earmark: https://earmarkcpe.comSubscribe to the Earmark Podcast: https://podcast.earmarkcpe.comGet in TouchThanks for listening and the great reviews! We appreciate you! Follow and tweet @BlakeTOliver and @DavidLeary. Find us on Facebook and Instagram. If you like what you hear, please do us a favor and write a review on Apple Podcasts or Podchaser. Call us and leave a voicemail; maybe we'll play it on the show. DIAL (202) 695-1040.SponsorshipsAre you interested in sponsoring The Accounting Podcast? For details, read the prospectus.Need Accounting Conference Info? Check out our new website - accountingconferences.comLimited edition shirts, stickers, and other necessitiesTeePublic Store: http://cloudacctpod.link/merchSubscribeApple Podcasts: http://cloudacctpod.link/ApplePodcastsYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheAccountingPodcastSpotify: http://cloudacctpod.link/SpotifyPodchaser: http://cloudacctpod.link/podchaserStitcher: http://cloudacctpod.link/StitcherOvercast: http://cloudacctpod.link/OvercastWant to get the word out about your newsletter, webinar, party, Facebook group, podcast, e-book, job posting, or that fancy Excel macro you just created? Let the listeners of The Accounting Podcast know by running a classified ad. Go here to c...

Aug 13, 2025 • 1h 16min
GPT-5 Launch & Charting Fail, Crazy $$$ Going Into AI Accounting Tech
Blake and David discuss how both AICPA and NASBA have officially endorsed a 120-hour CPA licensure pathway in the ninth edition of the Uniform Accountancy Act, validating Blake's long-standing advocacy against the 150-hour requirement. They also examine Baker Tilly's policy, which requires CPAs to remove their designations from email signatures and LinkedIn profiles due to alternative practice structures. They move on to the launch of GPT-5, praising its improved integration but noting concerning chart errors in OpenAI's presentation and ongoing hallucination issues. Rounding things out, they also discuss Trump's firing of newly-appointed IRS Commissioner Billy Long after just weeks in office, comparing it to his dismissal of the Bureau of Labor Statistics head over unfavorable job revision data.SponsorsOnPay - http://accountingpodcast.promo/onpay Keeper - http://accountingpodcast.promo/keeperMissive - http://accountingpodcast.promo/missive TeamUp - http://accountingpodcast.promo/teamupChapters(00:41) - AICPA and NASBA owe Blake an apology
(02:35) - AI and GPT-5 Launch
(04:17) - CPA License Controversy
(13:04) - IRS and BLS Firings
(24:54) - Tariffs and Economic Impact
(37:13) - Impressive Results with GPT-5
(41:13) - Private Equity and Accounting Firms
(45:16) - AI Errors in High-Stakes Presentations
(56:41) - SEC's New Stable Coin Regulations
(59:56) - China's Response to US Stable Coin Regulations
(01:01:16) - KPMG and the Silicon Valley Bank Collapse
(01:03:20) - Macy's Executive Bonuses Clawed Back
(01:05:33) - Luckin Coffee's Auditor Penalized
(01:08:34) - Mike Lynch's Estate Hit with $1 Billion Judgment
(01:09:51) - Match Group's Stock Surge and Economic Optimism
(01:12:58) - Final Thoughts and Continuing Education
Show NotesNASBA, AICPA give blessing to 120-hour CPA pathwayhttps://www.cfo.com/news/governing-bodies-of-accounting-give-blessing-to-120-hour-cpa-requirement/754033/ AICPA and NASBA Approve Model Legislation for New CPA Licensure Pathhttps://nasba.org/blog/2025/05/13/aicpa-and-nasba-approve-model-legislation-for-new-cpa-licensure-path/NASBA and AICPA Publish Ninth Edition of the Uniform Accountancy Act (UAA)https://nasba.org/blog/2025/07/22/nasba-and-aicpa-publish-ninth-edition-of-the-uniform-accountancy-act-uaa/Alaska Becomes the Latest State to Offer an Alternate CPA Pathway, With No Help From the Governorhttps://www.goingconcern.com/alaska-becomes-the-latest-state-to-offer-an-alternate-cpa-pathway-with-no-help-from-the-governor/CPA requirements by statehttps://www.cfo.com/news/cpa-requirements-by-state-cfo-accounting-updates-changes-150-hour/740328/Baker Tilly Secures Private Equity Investment in Largest CPA Transaction to Datehttps://insidepublicaccounting.com/2024/02/05/baker-tilly-secures-private-equity-investment-in-largest-cpa-transaction-to-date/Trump ousts Billy Long as IRS commissioner, names Bessent acting headhttps://www.cnn.com/2025/08/08/politics/billy-long-ousted-irs-commissionerIRS Commissioner Billy Long replaced after less than two monthshttps://www.npr.org/2025/08/08/nx-s1-5496549/irs-billy-long-trumpTrump removes Billy Long as IRS commissioner, giving him the shortest-ever tenure in the rolehttps://federalnewsnetwork.com/management/2025/08/trump-removes-billy-long-as-irs-commisioner-less-than-2-months-after-his-confirmation/OpenAI botches the charts in GPT-5 introductionhttps://flowingdata.com/2025/08/07/openai-botches-the-charts-in-gpt-5-introduction/GPT-5 Launch Demo Plagued With Catastrophically Dumb Errorshttps://futurism.com/gpt-5-demo-dumb-errorsSam Altman addresses 'bumpy' GPT-5 rollout, bringing 4o back, and the 'chart crime'https://techcrunch.com/2025/08/08/sam-altman-addresses-bumpy-gpt-5-rollout-bringing-4o-back-and-the-chart-crime/Introducing GPT-5https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5/Need CPE?Get CPE for listening to podcasts with Earmark: https://earmarkcpe.comSubscribe to the Earmark Podcast: https://podcast.earmarkcpe.comGet in TouchThanks for listening and the great reviews! We appreciate you! Follow and tweet @BlakeTOliver and @DavidLeary. Find us on Facebook and Instagram. If you like what you hear, please do us a favor and write a review on Apple Podcasts or Podchaser. Call us and leave a voicemail; maybe we'll play it on the show. DIAL (202) 695-1040.SponsorshipsAre you interested in sponsoring The Accounting Podcast? For details, read the prospectus.Need Accounting Conference Info? Check out our new website - accountingconferences.comLimited edition shirts, stickers, and other necessitiesTeePublic Store: http://cloudacctpod.link/merchSubscribeApple Podcasts: http://cloudacctpod.link/ApplePodcastsYouTube...

Aug 5, 2025 • 1h 13min
Who's Most Likely to Quit Your Firm? & Higher Wages, Fewer Jobs
What happens when the traditional path from college to accounting career gets disrupted by AI and automation? This week, Blake and David explore who's most likely to quit accounting firms (hint: it's the middle managers), why wages are rising while jobs disappear, and how one college is revolutionizing accounting education. You'll discover which employees are happiest and most miserable in accounting, learn why ChatGPT conversations could be used against you in court, and hear from Nicole Wetter about Green River College's innovative applied accounting program that puts students in real internships while teaching them AI tools alongside traditional skills.SponsorsKeeper - http://accountingpodcast.promo/keeperTeamUp - http://accountingpodcast.promo/teamupHuman at Scale - http://accountingpodcast.promo/humanMissive - http://accountingpodcast.promo/missiveChapters(00:48) - AI in Accounting: Opportunities and Limitations
(02:11) - Impact of AI on Accounting Jobs
(04:07) - Interview with Nicole Wetter: Applied Science in Accounting
(04:57) - ChatGPT and Legal Concerns
(05:29) - Accounting Industry Updates and Opinions
(06:55) - Employee Satisfaction in Accounting Firms
(12:12) - Mergers and Acquisitions in Accounting
(13:38) - Sponsor Messages and Livestream Welcome
(17:40) - Conflicting Survey Data on Tech Adoption
(25:16) - ChatGPT Study Mode: A New Way to Learn
(31:13) - Second Sponsor Message: Team Up
(32:10) - Free Resources for Listeners
(32:29) - Billy Long's IRS Leadership
(36:02) - Jeffrey Epstein's Tax Planning Scandal
(38:03) - Rant on Tariffs and Economic Policies
(47:04) - Interview with Nicole Wetter on Applied Accounting Education
(01:10:04) - Final Thoughts and Upcoming Events
Show NotesWho's most likely to leave your accounting firm?https://www.accountingtoday.com/news/whos-most-likely-to-leave-your-accounting-firmSam Altman warns there's no legal confidentiality when using ChatGPT as a therapisthttps://techcrunch.com/2025/07/25/sam-altman-warns-theres-no-legal-confidentiality-when-using-chatgpt-as-a-therapist/OpenAI to appeal New York Times copyright case over user data preservationhttps://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/openai-appeal-copyright-ruling-ny-times-case-altman-calls-ai-privilegeHow we're responding to The New York Times' data demands in order to protect user privacyhttps://openai.com/index/response-to-nyt-data-demands/'I don't care about Direct File': IRS chief says agency plans to end free filing programhttps://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/30/irs-chief-says-agency-plans-to-end-free-direct-file-program.htmlIRS Chief Says Direct File Is 'Gone,' Other Audit Tech Is Cominghttps://news.bloombergtax.com/daily-tax-report/irs-chief-says-direct-file-is-gone-other-audit-tech-is-comingNew commissioner confident IRS can implement OBBBA's tax provisionshttps://www.journalofaccountancy.com/news/2025/jul/new-commissioner-confident-irs-can-implement-obbbas-tax-provisions/Continuing Epstein Investigation, Wyden Probes IRS's Failure to Investigate Sex Trafficker's Highly Lucrative Tax Planning Workhttps://www.finance.senate.gov/ranking-members-news/continuing-epstein-investigation-wyden-probes-irss-failure-to-investigate-sex-traffickers-highly-lucrative-tax-planning-workWyden probes IRS failure to investigate Jeffrey Epstein's tax planninghttps://www.accountingtoday.com/news/wyden-probes-irs-failure-to-investigate-jeffrey-epsteins-tax-planningAs Trump Sits on Key Epstein Files, Wyden Lays Out "Follow the Money" Investigation for DOJhttps://www.finance.senate.gov/ranking-members-news/as-trump-sits-on-key-epstein-files-wyden-lays-out-follow-the-money-investigation-for-dojNeed CPE?Get CPE for listening to podcasts with Earmark: https://earmarkcpe.comSubscribe to the Earmark Podcast: https://podcast.earmarkcpe.comGet in TouchThanks for listening and the great reviews! We appreciate you! Follow and tweet @BlakeTOliver and @DavidLeary. Find us on Facebook and Instagram. If you like what you hear, please do us a favor and write a review on Apple Podcasts or Podchaser. Call us and leave a voicemail; maybe we'll play it on the show. DIAL (202) 695-1040.SponsorshipsAre you interested in sponsoring The Accounting Podcast? For details, read the prospectus.Need Accounting Conference Info? Check out our new website - accountingconferences.comLimited edition shirts, stickers, and other necessitiesTeePublic Store: http://cloudacctpod.link/merchSubscribeApple Podcasts: http://cloudacctpod.link/ApplePodcastsYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheAccountingPodcastSpotify: http://cloudacctpod.link/SpotifyPodchaser: http://cloudacctpod.link/podchaserStitcher: http://clouda...

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Jul 31, 2025 • 1h 4min
Colbert's Losing P&L, Impending AI Fraud Crisis, House Holds FASB Hostage
What happens when politicians threaten to cut funding from accounting standard-setters unless they eliminate specific rules? Blake and David explore unprecedented political interference in FASB and PCAOB operations, plus the IRS facing a 23% budget cut despite Trump's push for more customer service staff. They unpack Sam Altman's warning about AI breaking voice authentication at major banks, why accounting degrees deliver 261% ROI (fourth-best among all majors), and how $28.7 billion in private equity money is reshaping CPA firms. Plus, the economic reality behind Stephen Colbert's show cancellation, Bitcoin's institutional takeover, and how tariff uncertainty is creating impossible planning conditions for businesses.SponsorsHuman at Scale - http://accountingpodcast.promo/humanKeeper - http://accountingpodcast.promo/keeperMissive - http://accountingpodcast.promo/missiveCloud Accountant Staffing - http://accountingpodcast.promo/casChapters(00:41) - The Decline of Late Night TV
(03:02) - The Shift to Digital Media
(13:51) - AI in Accounting Firms
(16:46) - PCOB Leadership Changes
(20:06) - Legislation to Eliminate PCOB
(21:06) - FASB Funding Threats
(24:54) - IRS Budget Cuts
(31:56) - Deloitte's Audit Investigation
(32:55) - Uncovering Glencore Energy's Bribery Scandal
(34:19) - The ROI of an Accounting Degree
(38:01) - Private Equity's Surge in Accounting Firms
(54:46) - The Immigration Debate and Economic Consequences
(01:00:57) - Alternative Pathways in Accounting: Alaska's New Law
(01:01:48) - Conclusion Final Thoughts
Show NotesCBS is ending 'The Late Show with Stephen Colbert' next year | CNN Business https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/17/media/cbs-cancels-stephen-colbertStephen Colbert's 'Late Show' run will come to an end next year as CBS cancels franchise https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/tv/stephen-colbert-late-show-end-cbs-rcna219499Inside CBS' 'agonizing decision' to cancel Colbert's top-rated late-night show | CNN Business https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/18/media/colbert-cbs-late-show-cancel-paramount-trumpSEC.gov | SEC Announces George Botic to Serve as Acting Chair of the Public Company Accounting Oversight Boardhttps://www.sec.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2025-100-sec-announces-george-botic-serve-acting-chair-public-company-accounting-oversight-boardGeorge Botic Takes Over as Acting Chief of the PCAOB - CPA Practice Advisor https://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/2025/07/22/george-botic-takes-over-as-acting-chief-of-the-pcaob/165364/SEC names George Botic as acting chair of PCAOB | Accounting Today https://www.accountingtoday.com/news/sec-names-george-botic-as-acting-chair-of-pcaobHouse Republicans propose to withhold funds from FASB unless income tax reporting standard is withdrawn | Accounting Todayhttps://www.accountingtoday.com/news/house-republicans-propose-to-withhold-funds-from-fasbGOP Threatens Accounting Board Funding Over Tax Disclosure Rules https://news.bloombergtax.com/financial-accounting/gop-threatens-accounting-board-funding-over-tax-disclosure-rulesAmericans Want to Know Which Corporations Aren't Paying Taxes, but House Republicans Want to Keep this Information Secrethttps://itep.org/corporate-tax-avoidance-house-republicans-spending-bill/Trump wants to reverse the staffing cuts he's overseen for IRS customer service. House Republicans disagree. - Government Executivehttps://www.govexec.com/workforce/2025/07/trump-wants-reverse-staffing-cuts-hes-overseen-irs-customer-service-house-republicans-disagree/407002/Trump slashes 25% of IRS workforce with buyouts, firings of nearly 26,000 agency staff https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2025/jul/22/trump-slashed-25-irs-workforce/Need CPE?Get CPE for listening to podcasts with Earmark: https://earmarkcpe.comSubscribe to the Earmark Podcast: https://podcast.earmarkcpe.comGet in TouchThanks for listening and the great reviews! We appreciate you! Follow and tweet @BlakeTOliver and @DavidLeary. Find us on Facebook and Instagram. If you like what you hear, please do us a favor and write a review on Apple Podcasts or Podchaser. Call us and leave a voicemail; maybe we'll play it on the show. DIAL (202) 695-1040.SponsorshipsAre you interested in sponsoring The Accounting Podcast? For details, read the prospectus.Need Accounting Conference Info? Check out our new website - accountingconferences.comLimited edition shirts, stickers, and other necessitiesTeePublic Store: http://cloudacctpod.link/merchSubscribeApple Podcasts: http://cloudacctpod.link/ApplePodcastsYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheAccountingPodcastSpotify: http://cloudacctpod.link/SpotifyPodchaser: http://cloudacctpod.link/podchaserStitcher: http://cloudacctpod.link/StitcherOvercast: http://cloudacctpod.link/Ov...

Jul 23, 2025 • 1h 22min
The $2T Stablecoin Opportunity for CPAs & Agentic AI in the Browser
What happens when a $2 trillion cryptocurrency market suddenly requires monthly audits? Blake and David break down the Genius Act, the new federal stablecoin legislation that just created a massive opportunity for auditors—but also potentially recreated the chaotic "wildcat banking" era of the 1800s. You'll learn why every stablecoin issuer now needs monthly attestation reports and annual audits, creating hundreds of new recurring revenue streams for accounting firms willing to take on the risk. Plus, they explore whether there are enough auditors to actually make this system work, and what happens if quantum computing breaks cryptocurrency security. The episode also covers PCAOB leadership changes under the new administration, live-tests AI agents trying to enter invoices (spoiler: it's messier than the hype suggests), and updates on the 23 states now offering alternative CPA pathways.SponsorsMissive - http://accountingpodcast.promo/missiveRelay - http://accountingpodcast.promo/relayCloud Accountant Staffing - http://accountingpodcast.promo/casChapters(01:17) - AI in Accounting: Browser Integration
(02:35) - Major News: The Genius Act and Its Implications
(03:38) - Sponsor Shoutouts and Livestream Interaction
(05:06) - Audit News: Erica Williams and PCAOB Changes
(08:27) - Federal Audit Failures and OMB's Strategic Reset
(09:48) - AICPA's New Fraud Detection Standards
(12:52) - Sponsor Highlight: Missive
(15:38) - Fraud Case Study: Christine Hunsicker's $300M Scam
(20:08) - Deep Dive: The Genius Act and Stablecoins
(41:21) - The Risk of Stablecoins and Financial Contagion
(42:07) - Quantum Computing Threat to Bitcoin
(42:38) - The Challenge of Upgrading Cryptocurrency Systems
(43:22) - Summary and Predictions for Accounting Firms
(43:38) - Fraud in the Traditional Banking System
(44:08) - Relay: The Small Business Banking Solution
(45:43) - Pig Butchering: A Growing Fraud Problem
(48:05) - The Case for a Federal Stablecoin
(50:26) - Alternative Pathways for CPA Licensure
(52:02) - Decline in CPA Licenses and Modernizing Education
(54:59) - Cloud Accountant Staffing: Solving the Labor Shortage
(56:01) - Agentic AI: The Future of Automation
(59:13) - Challenges and Potential of AI in Accounting
(01:02:31) - The Role of AI in Data Entry and Research
(01:17:53) - Conclusion and Final Thoughts
Show NotesTrump signs landmark GENIUS Act, hailing "exciting new frontier" for crypto - CBS News https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-signs-genius-act-crypto-bill/Fact Sheet: President Donald J. Trump Signs GENIUS Act into Law – The White House https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/07/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-signs-genius-act-into-law/Stablecoin regulation bill heads to Trump's desk https://www.axios.com/2025/07/17/house-passes-genius-act-stablecoins-trumpA 'Crypto Week' win: Congress passes 1st major crypto legislation in the U.S. https://www.npr.org/2025/07/17/nx-s1-5451413/crypto-week-stablecoin-genius-act-trumpGENIUS Act Passes in US Congress: A Breakdown of the Landmark Stablecoin Law – Publications https://www.morganlewis.com/pubs/2025/07/genius-act-passes-in-us-congress-a-breakdown-of-the-landmark-stablecoin-lawErica Williams Resigns as PCAOB Chair - CPA Practice Advisor https://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/2025/07/15/erica-williams-resigns-as-pcaob-chair/164956/PCAOB chair Erica Williams steps down | Accounting Today https://www.accountingtoday.com/news/pcaob-chair-erica-williams-steps-downSEC.gov | Statement Regarding Tenure of Erica Williams at the PCAOB https://www.sec.gov/newsroom/speeches-statements/atkins-statement-erica-williams-pcaob-071505Southern District of New York | CaaStle Founder Charged In $300 Million Fraud Scheme | United States Department of Justice https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/caastle-founder-charged-300-million-fraud-schemeThe surprising details of fashion entrepreneur Christine Hunsicker's fraud indictment- Fast Company https://www.fastcompany.com/91371881/the-surprising-details-of-fashion-entrepreneur-christine-hunsickers-fraud-indictmentFashion startup founder Christine Hunsicker accused of cheating investors out of over $300 million - CBS News https://www.cbsnews.com/news/christine-hunsicker-charged-fraud-300-million-fashion-startup-founder/States move beyond the 150-hour rule for CPA licensure | Accounting Today https://www.accountingtoday.com/list/states-move-beyond-the-150-hour-rule-for-cpa-licensureTracking CPA licensure paths: Removing the 150-hour-rule hurdle | CFO Dive https://www.cfodive.com/news/broadening-cpa-licensure-paths-marching-beyond-150-hour-rule-accounting-talent-shortage/745282/The rise and fall of the 150-hour rule https://www.cfobrew.com/stories/2025/04/10/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-150-hour-ruleAICPA, NASBA approve alternatives to the 150-hour rule https://www.cfobrew.com/stories/2025/05/15/aicpa-nasba-approve-alternatives-to-the-150-hour-ruleNeed CPE?Get CPE for listening to podcasts with Earmark: https://earmarkcpe.comSubscribe to the Earmark Podcast: https://podcast.earmarkcpe.comGet in TouchThanks for listening and the great reviews! We appreciate you! Follow and tweet @BlakeTOliver and @DavidLeary. Find us on Facebook and

Jul 17, 2025 • 1h 15min
The Losers of AI & What CPAs Need to Know About OBBBA
Explore the surprising failures of AI in basic accounting tasks, with critiques on frustrating AI suggestions from popular tools like QuickBooks. Discover the serious security risks AI poses, as clients increasingly seek second opinions on their accountants' advice. The hosts break down the new 'One Big Beautiful Bill Act,' detailing valuable tax planning opportunities, including 100% bonus depreciation. Dive into the future of financial management and how AI could reshape job roles in the accounting field.

Jul 10, 2025 • 1h 11min
When AI Decides Who Gets Promoted & Who's Going to Tax Prom?
What happens when AI decides who gets promoted and who gets fired? Blake and David dive into the shocking reality that 60% of managers now use AI for HR decisions, with over 20% letting algorithms make final calls without human oversight. They explore a Stanford study revealing that tax preparers are the #1 profession seeking automation, but only for basic calendar scheduling. Plus, discover why young Americans now rank health over wealth as their top measure of success, and how this generational shift is reshaping talent recruitment in accounting.SponsorsCloud Accountant Staffing - http://accountingpodcast.promo/casKeeper - http://accountingpodcast.promo/keeperChapters(01:27) - Tax Prom: The Must-Attend Event
(04:15) - AI in HR: Promotions and Firings
(08:48) - AI in the Workplace: Automation and Worker Preferences
(13:32) - AI Adoption and Security Concerns
(18:21) - AI Training and Education in Firms
(24:01) - Armanino's New AI-Powered Data Warehouse
(33:07) - The Annoying Know-It-All Employee
(33:18) - The Perfect AI Assistant
(35:48) - Young People's Values on Success
(38:55) - Global Perspectives on Success
(41:23) - The Talent Shortage in Accounting
(43:10) - Unlimited PTO and Burnout
(46:53) - Tariffs Update
(50:42) - The Big Beautiful Bill
(01:03:52) - IRS Staffing Cuts and Refund Delays
(01:08:26) - Conclusion and CPE Information
Show Notes Half of Managers Use AI To Determine Who Gets Promoted and Firedhttps://www.resumebuilder.com/half-of-managers-use-ai-to-determine-who-gets-promoted-and-fired/Future of Work with AI Agentshttps://futureofwork.saltlab.stanford.edu/Future of Work with AI Agents: Auditing Automation and Augmentation Potential across the U.S. Workforce https://arxiv.org/abs/2506.06576 What workers really want from artificial intelligence https://hai.stanford.edu/news/what-workers-really-want-from-artificial-intelligence Big 4 Firm Discovers That Bragging About AI Efficiencies Leads Clients to Expect a Discounthttps://www.goingconcern.com/big-4-firm-discovers-that-bragging-about-ai-efficiencies-leads-clients-to-expect-a-discount/ Monday Morning Accounting News Brief: PwC Clients Ask For an AI Discount; Big 4 Firms Losing Hundreds of Partners https://www.goingconcern.com/monday-morning-accounting-news-brief-pwc-clients-ask-for-an-ai-discount-big-4-firms-losing-hundreds-of-partners-6-30-25/ Armanino planning data warehouse service, used AI for development https://www.accountingtoday.com/news/armanino-planning-data-warehouse-service-used-ai-to-help-development Bolt’s millennial founder has just ‘killed’ its unlimited PTO perk because it was actually causing burnout https://fortune.com/2025/07/02/bolt-millennial-founder-ceo-ryan-breslow-killed-unlimited-pto-burnout-mandatory-four-weeks-paid-vacation-fintech-startup/ Agentic Misalignment: AI Agents in Corporate Environmentshttps://www.anthropic.com/research/agentic-misalignment Relationships, health and financial stability are the defining priorities for Gen Z, according to new EY survey https://www.ey.com/en_gl/newsroom/2025/05/relationships-health-and-financial-stability-are-the-defining-priorities-for-gen-z-according-to-new-ey-survey 2025 Technology Perceptions Survey https://www.intapp.com/2025-tech-perceptions-survey/ Trust, attitudes and use of artificial intelligence https://kpmg.com/us/en/articles/2025/trust-attitudes-and-use-of-artificial-intelligence.html Tax Foundation Tax Prom 2025 https://taxprom.comNeed CPE?Get CPE for listening to podcasts with Earmark: https://earmarkcpe.comSubscribe to the Earmark Podcast: https://podcast.earmarkcpe.comGet in TouchThanks for listening and the great reviews! We appreciate you! Follow and tweet @BlakeTOliver and @DavidLeary. Find us on Facebook and Instagram. If you like what you hear, please do us a favor and write a review on Apple Podcasts or Podchaser. Call us and leave a voicemail; maybe we'll play it on the show. DIAL (202) 695-1040.SponsorshipsAre you interested in sponsoring The Accounting Podcast? For details, read the prospectus.Need Accounting Conference Info? Check out our new website - accountingconferences.comLimited edition shirts, stickers, and other necessitiesTeePublic Store: http://cloudacctpod.link/merchSubscribeApple Podcasts: http://cloudacctpod.link/ApplePodcastsYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheAccountingPodcastSpotify: http://cloudacctpod.link/SpotifyPodchaser: http://cloudacctpod.link/podchaserStitcher: http://cloudacctpod.link/StitcherOvercast: http://cloudacctpod.link/OvercastClassifiedsREFRAME 2025 - http://accountingpodcast.promo/reframe2025Want to get the word out about your newsletter, webinar, party, Facebo...

Jul 3, 2025 • 1h 20min
Xero Buys Melio, QuickBooks AI Agents Are Here, More Big Four Cheating
What happens when AI agents promise to transform accounting but create more cognitive burden than productivity gains? Blake and David explore the reality behind the AI agent hype as QuickBooks, Digits, and Big Four firms launch their "digital teammates." They also dig into Xero's massive $2.5 billion acquisition of Melio and what it means for the payments landscape. You'll learn why managing AI agents might be like managing offshore contractors—you wake up to work that's 80% done but everyone has questions. Plus, they discuss how external investors are reshaping the profession, why traditional CPA protections might go the way of car dealership laws, and the ongoing problems with audit quality enforcement despite millions in PCAOB fines.Sponsors Cloud Accountant Staffing - http://accountingpodcast.promo/cas Human at Scale - http://accountingpodcast.promo/humanChapters(00:00) - Introduction and Welcome
(00:42) - David's Return and Big News
(01:01) - The Acquisition of Emilio by Xero
(01:33) - Implications of the Acquisition
(04:52) - David's Journey with Bill Pay Solutions
(06:42) - Emilio's Unique Features and Market Impact
(10:47) - Xero's New Features and Updates
(20:56) - QuickBooks AI Agents: A Game Changer?
(31:21) - Digits AI Agents and Their Potential
(36:59) - Big Firms Investing in AI
(39:48) - Managing AI Agents: The New Workforce
(41:09) - Cognitive Load and Productivity Limits
(42:45) - Infinite Workdays and AI's Role
(44:48) - AI in Accounting: Potential and Pitfalls
(46:30) - AI Spending Trends and Future Outlook
(47:18) - Building AI Workflows and Multi-Agent Systems
(50:40) - Big Four and AI Integration
(52:11) - AI-Powered Pricing and Payment Solutions
(58:06) - VC-Backed AI Rollups in Accounting
(01:01:47) - Regulatory Challenges and Industry Changes
(01:09:10) - Audit Quality and PCAOB Fines
(01:18:51) - Conclusion and CPE Information
Show NotesXero to acquire Melio, a leading US SMB bill pay solution, to accelerate global growth https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/xero-to-acquire-melio-a-leading-us-smb-bill-pay-solution-to-accelerate-global-growth-302490268.htmlNew Zealand's Xero to buy US fintech Melio for up to $3 billion | Reutershttps://www.reuters.com/legal/transactional/australia-listed-xero-acquire-fintech-melio-over-25-billion-deal-2025-06-24/Intuit Introduces Ground-Breaking Virtual Team of AI Agents to Fuel Growth for Businesses https://investors.intuit.com/news-events/press-releases/detail/1258/intuit-introduces-ground-breaking-virtual-team-of-ai-agents-to-fuel-growth-for-businessesIntuit debuts AI agents for QuickBooks | Accounting Today https://www.accountingtoday.com/news/intuit-debuts-ai-agents-for-quickbooksHow AI is improving accounting efficiency – without replacing jobs | Stanford Report https://news.stanford.edu/stories/2025/06/ai-accounting-bookkeeping-benefits-jobsAI Is Reshaping Accounting Jobs by Doing the "Boring" Stuff | Stanford Graduate School of Business https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/insights/ai-reshaping-accounting-jobs-doing-boring-stuffPCAOB fines Deloitte, PwC, EY Netherlands member firms for exam misconduct | Accounting Todayhttps://www.accountingtoday.com/news/pcaob-fines-deloitte-pwc-ey-netherlands-member-firms-for-exam-misconductPCAOB Imposes Fines Totaling $8.5 Million on Netherlands Member Firms of Deloitte, PwC, and EY After Widespread Exam Misconduct https://pcaobus.org/news-events/news-releases/news-release-detail/pcaob-imposes-fines-totaling--8.5-million-on-netherlands-member-firms-of-deloitte--pwc--and-ey-after-widespread-exam-misconductHow an Accounting Change Hit Store Prices - UCLA Anderson Review https://anderson-review.ucla.edu/how-an-accounting-change-hit-store-pricesNeed CPE?Get CPE for listening to podcasts with Earmark: https://earmarkcpe.comSubscribe to the Earmark Podcast: https://podcast.earmarkcpe.comGet in TouchThanks for listening and the great reviews! We appreciate you! Follow and tweet @BlakeTOliver and @DavidLeary. Find us on Facebook and Instagram. If you like what you hear, please do us a favor and write a review on Apple Podcasts or Podchaser. Call us and leave a voicemail; maybe we'll play it on the show. DIAL (202) 695-1040.SponsorshipsAre you interested in sponsoring The Accounting Podcast? For details, read the prospectus.Need Accounting Conference Info? Check out our new website - accountingconferences.comLimited edition shirts, stickers, and other necessitiesTeePublic Store: http://cloudacctpod.link/merchSubscribeApple Podcasts: http://cloudacctpod.link/ApplePodcastsYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheAccountingPodcastSpotify: http://cloudacctpod.link/SpotifyPodchaser: http://cloudacctpod.link/podchaserStitcher: http://cloudacctpod.link/StitcherOvercast: http://cloudacctpod.link/OvercastClassifiedsREFRAME 2025 -

Jun 25, 2025 • 1h 23min
Tariffs, Iran, PE, CPA Pipeline, PCAOB, SEC
In this discussion, Adam Zaki, a finance and accounting reporter at CFO.com, dives into the recent shift in CPA licensure as 19 states abandon the 150-hour requirement. He examines the chaos tariffs have unleashed on CFO strategies, highlighting how economic uncertainty is reshaping demand for accounting services. Zaki also reflects on the future of the PCAOB amidst legislative changes, explores the role of AI in transforming audit teams, and discusses the evolving responsibilities of CFOs, revealing a complex landscape for finance professionals.

Jun 19, 2025 • 58min
AICPA Doesn't Care If PCAOB Goes Away
Venture capitalists are now buying accounting firms to push AI adoption, drawing comparisons to soda companies purchasing restaurants. The gap between AI promises and actual capabilities raises eyebrows, especially with many basic tools still faltering. Miley Cyrus's secretive financial behaviors add a dash of celebrity intrigue, alongside the controversial confirmation of Billy Long as IRS commissioner. The AICPA's indifference toward the PCAOB's future stirs concern, as accountant optimism has plummeted amid economic challenges.