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Jun 5, 2025 • 1h 27min

Excel Still Trumps AI, Tariffs Under Threat, QBO Price Increases Justified?

What happens when a major newspaper publishes a summer reading list where only five of the 15 books actually exist? Blake and David explore this real example of AI-generated content gone wrong and what it means for accounting professionals who increasingly rely on automated tools. They break down QuickBooks' latest price increases, demonstrate how AI can now build complex consolidation spreadsheets in minutes, and discuss why Excel skills still outrank AI knowledge in finance hiring. Plus, they examine the legal challenges facing Trump's tariff policies, alternative CPA pathway expansion, and hear from accounting student Jason Farley about the dangerous gap between classroom education and real-world cloud accounting practice.SponsorsPayhawk - http://accountingpodcast.promo/payhawkKeeper - http://accountingpodcast.promo/keeper REFRAME 2025 - http://accountingpodcast.promo/reframe2025 TeamUp - http://accountingpodcast.promo/teamupChapters(00:48) - Summer Reading List Mishap (02:52) - AI and the Future of Fact-Checking (05:27) - AI Video Generators and Fake News (08:20) - QuickBooks and AI Pricing Debate (09:16) - Elon Musk and Government Efficiency (10:41) - The Big Beautiful Bill and Its Implications (18:29) - Tariffs and Trade Wars (39:48) - Excel vs AI in Finance (42:42) - The Rise of Excel: A Brief History (43:44) - Introducing Perplexity AI: A Versatile Tool (53:56) - Alternative CPA Pathways and Legislative Changes (55:07) - The Role of the PCAOB in Audit Quality (59:25) - Controversies Surrounding IRS Commissioner Nominee Billy Long (01:03:59) - The Future of Accounting Internships and Outsourcing (01:20:20) - Perplexity's Onboarding Process: Results and Insights (01:24:38) - Upcoming Conferences and Closing Remarks  Show NotesChicago Sun-Times fake summer reading list article https://www.chicagosuntimes.com/fake-summer-reading-list-2025South Carolina passes alternative CPA pathway legislation https://www.scstatehouse.gov/cpa-pathway-legislation-2025New Jersey alternative CPA pathway bill https://www.njleg.state.nj.us/bills/cpa-alternative-pathway-2025Oregon CPA licensure reform legislation https://www.oregonlegislature.gov/cpa-pathway-reform-2025Minnesota CPA education requirements change https://www.revisor.mn.gov/cpa-education-requirements-2025Illinois CPA pathway legislation https://www.ilga.gov/cpa-pathway-bill-2025Trump tariffs constitutional challenge court ruling https://www.reuters.com/legal/trump-tariffs-constitutional-challenge-2025Court of International Trade blocks global tariffs https://www.cit.uscourts.gov/trump-tariffs-ruling-2025International Emergency Economic Powers Act tariff authority https://www.treasury.gov/ieepa-tariff-authority-analysisPCAOB elimination provision in tax bill https://www.congress.gov/bill/pcaob-elimination-provisionBilly Long IRS Commissioner confirmation hearing https://www.finance.senate.gov/billy-long-confirmation-hearingBilly Long tribal tax credits promotion controversy https://www.irs.gov/tribal-tax-credits-fraud-warningFederal Tax Updates podcast with Danny Werfel https://federaltaxupdates.com/danny-werfel-interviewSolutions Magazine Excel vs AI survey https://solutionsmagazine.com/excel-ai-finance-survey-2025Microsoft Excel 40th anniversary analysis https://www.technologylab.com/excel-40-years-anniversaryQuickBooks pricing increases for AI features https://quickbooks.intuit.com/pricing-changes-ai-features-2025Puzzle AI accounting platform pricing https://puzzle.io/pricingDigits AI bookkeeping service costs https://digits.com/pricing-plansUplink AI bookkeeping pricing structure https://uplink.com/ai-bookkeeping-pricingAltman Dublin AI accounting company funding https://altman.ie/series-a-funding-announcementPerplexity Labs spreadsheet creation feature https://labs.perplexity.ai/spreadsheet-toolsMicrosoft Office bundling strategy vs Lotus 123https://www.computerhistory.org/excel-lotus-competitionMeet our Guest, Chayton FarleeLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chaytonfarlee/Need CPE?Get CPE for listening to podcasts with Earmark: https://earmarkcpe.comSubscribe to the Earmark Podcast: https://podcast.earmarkcpe.comGet in TouchThanks for listening and the great reviews! We appreciate you! Follow and tweet @BlakeTOliver and @DavidLeary. Find us on Facebook and Instagram. If you like what you hear, please do us a favor and write a review on Apple Podcasts or Podchaser. Call us and leave a voicemail; maybe we'll play it on the show. DIAL (202) 695-1040.SponsorshipsAre you interested in sponsoring The Accounting Podcast? For details, read the prospectus.Need Accounting Conference Info? Check out our new website -
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May 30, 2025 • 55min

Beyond the Hype: Real-World AI in Accounting and Finance

How close are we to expense reports that create themselves? In this crossover episode recorded live at Emburse in Motion, Blake Oliver explores real-world AI implementation with Adriana Carpenter, CFO of Emburse, and Olga Pavlova from PizzaExpress. Discover how PizzaExpress manages 350+ restaurant locations using AI to automatically flag policy violations and detect hidden SaaS subscriptions buried in expense reports. You'll learn specific strategies for vendor consolidation that deliver immediate cost savings, plus hear Adriana's vision for AI agents that guide employees through policy compliance in real time. From keyword detection that prevents VAT errors to mobile-first expense reporting that's "quarters away, not years away," this episode reveals practical automation wins you can implement today.Meet Our Guests:Adriana CarpenterCFO, EmburseLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriana-carpenter-487507a/Learn more about Embursehttps://www.emburse.com/company/about-emburseOlga Pavlova-Grebliauske FCCALinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/olga-pavlova-grebliauske-fcca-8a625470/Need CPE?Get CPE for listening to podcasts with Earmark: https://earmarkcpe.comSubscribe to the Earmark Podcast: https://podcast.earmarkcpe.comGet in TouchThanks for listening and the great reviews! We appreciate you! Follow and tweet @BlakeTOliver and @DavidLeary. Find us on Facebook and Instagram. If you like what you hear, please do us a favor and write a review on Apple Podcasts or Podchaser. Call us and leave a voicemail; maybe we'll play it on the show. DIAL (202) 695-1040.SponsorshipsAre you interested in sponsoring The Accounting Podcast? For details, read the prospectus.Need Accounting Conference Info? Check out our new website - accountingconferences.comLimited edition shirts, stickers, and other necessitiesTeePublic Store: http://cloudacctpod.link/merchSubscribeApple Podcasts: http://cloudacctpod.link/ApplePodcastsYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheAccountingPodcastSpotify: http://cloudacctpod.link/SpotifyPodchaser: http://cloudacctpod.link/podchaserStitcher: http://cloudacctpod.link/StitcherOvercast: http://cloudacctpod.link/OvercastClassifiedsWant to get the word out about your newsletter, webinar, party, Facebook group, podcast, e-book, job posting, or that fancy Excel macro you just created? Let the listeners of The Accounting Podcast know by running a classified ad. Go here to create your classified ad: https://cloudacctpod.link/RunClassifiedAdTranscriptsThe full transcript for this episode is available by clicking on the Transcript tab at the top of this page
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May 28, 2025 • 1h 3min

One Big Beautiful Podcast Episode: Taxes, QuickBooks, & Tesla

What happens when Congress passes a $3.8 trillion deficit-increasing bill by just one vote while promising fiscal responsibility? Blake and David break down the "Big Beautiful Bill" and reveal who really benefits—spoiler alert: it's not the middle class or the national debt. They explore QuickBooks' aggressive new AI agents rollout with price hikes up to 17%, examine why Tesla's CPA CFO earned $139 million in one year, and uncover how tariff-stressed businesses are weaponizing invoice rejections to manage cash flow. You'll discover why the time-based billing model is fundamentally broken in accounting, learn about the emerging "Next 12" tier of accounting firms, and understand why partners work the most hours while achieving only 6.9/10 job satisfaction.Sponsors Relay - http://accountingpodcast.promo/relayTeamUp - http://accountingpodcast.promo/teamup REFRAME 2025 - http://accountingpodcast.promo/reframe2025 Payhawk - http://accountingpodcast.promo/payhawkChapters(00:44) - The Big Beautiful Bill Act Overview (03:13) - Public Perception and Survey Insights (04:51) - Tax Implications and Specific Provisions (19:24) - National Debt Concerns (29:35) - QuickBooks AI Agents and Price Increases (32:52) - AI and Automation in Accounting (33:52) - Intuit's Earnings and Stock Performance (34:53) - Price Increases for QuickBooks Products (36:53) - AI Agents and QuickBooks Plans (38:01) - Impact of AI on Accounting Apps (38:56) - Intuit Enterprise and Accountants' Role (39:28) - Reframe 2025 Conference (42:40) - Big Four Transparency and Work Hours (48:18) - Tariffs and Invoice Rejections (54:52) - Big Four vs. Next 12 Accounting Firms (01:00:48) - Conclusion and CPE Information  Show NotesDo Americans Support Trump's 'Big, Beautiful' Budget Package? What Poll Found Before it Passed in House https://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/2025/05/22/do-americans-support-trumps-big-beautiful-budget-package-what-poll-found-before-it-passed-in-house/161567/ Tesla CFO earns staggering $139 million compensation package https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/tesla-cfo-earns-staggering-139-million-compensation-package Tesla Exec Receives Record Pay Package, Highest Paid CFO https://www.entrepreneur.com/business-news/tesla-exec-receives-record-pay-package-highest-paid-cfo/491938 Tesla CFO Vaibhav Taneja draws record $139 million salary https://americanbazaaronline.com/2025/05/21/tesla-cfo-vaibhav-taneja-draws-record-139-million-salary-462881/ Big 4 Transparency - Awards Season https://big4transparency.beehiiv.com/p/big-4-transparency-awards-season Tariffs & Trade Uncertainty Creates Invoice Rejections Surge https://procurementmag.com/news/tariffs-trade-uncertainty-creates-invoice-rejections-surgeInvoice rejection spike suggests tactic's use as tariff buffer, study says https://www.cfodive.com/news/invoice-rejection-spike-suggests-tactics-use-as-tariff-buffer-study-says/748528/ Art of Accounting: Analysis of Top 100 Firms data https://www.accountingtoday.com/opinion/art-of-accounting-analysis-of-top-100-firms-data The corporate work week grows even longer https://www.cfo.com/news/the-corporate-work-week-grows-even-longer-survey-microsoft-reclaim-ai-/748628/ Need CPE?Get CPE for listening to podcasts with Earmark: https://earmarkcpe.comSubscribe to the Earmark Podcast: https://podcast.earmarkcpe.comGet in TouchThanks for listening and the great reviews! We appreciate you! Follow and tweet @BlakeTOliver and @DavidLeary. Find us on Facebook and Instagram. If you like what you hear, please do us a favor and write a review on Apple Podcasts or Podchaser. Call us and leave a voicemail; maybe we'll play it on the show. DIAL (202) 695-1040.SponsorshipsAre you interested in sponsoring The Accounting Podcast? For details, read the prospectus.Need Accounting Conference Info? Check out our new website - accountingconferences.comLimited edition shirts, stickers, and other necessitiesTeePublic Store: http://cloudacctpod.link/merchSubscribeApple Podcasts: http://cloudacctpod.link/ApplePodcastsYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheAccountingPodcastSpotify: http://cloudacctpod.link/SpotifyPodchaser: http://cloudacctpod.link/podchaserStitcher: http://cloudacctpod.link/StitcherOvercast: http://cloudacctpod.link/OvercastClassifiedsREFRAME 2025 - http://accountingpodcast.promo/reframe2025Want to get the word out about your newsletter, webinar, party, Facebook group, podcast, e-book, job posting, or that fancy Excel macro you just created? Let the listeners of The Accounting Podcast know by running a cla...
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May 22, 2025 • 1h 11min

Intuit's Tariff on Developers, Arizona Tariff Shelters, $1T Stolen Annually from US

Could the Pope be on the hook for US taxes? As the first American elected Pope, Leo XIV faces an unusual conundrum under US citizenship rules. Meanwhile, Intuit's controversial new API pricing has developers reeling, and Hector Garcia joins the conversation to explain why this "tariff" threatens the entire QuickBooks ecosystem. Blake and David also examine how companies use foreign trade zones to dodge Trump's tariffs, unpack the AICPA's new CPA licensure model, and reveal shocking numbers on government fraud that could approach $1 trillion annually. Plus, discover why 99.99% of Trump Memecoin buyers lost money while just 58 wallets walked away with billions.Sponsors REFRAME 2025 - http://accountingpodcast.promo/reframe2025 TeamUp - http://accountingpodcast.promo/teamupBluevine - http://accountingpodcast.promo/bluevine (Bluevine is a financial technology company, not a bank. Banking Services provided by Coastal Community Bank, Member FDIC.) Payhawk - http://accountingpodcast.promo/payhawkChapters(01:54) - South Carolina State Treasurer Ousted (04:04) - Deal CEO Relocates Amid Lawsuit (05:28) - Live Stream Interactions (07:29) - Introducing Hector Garcia and Reframe (08:19) - Intuit Developer Program Changes (09:53) - Discussion on API Charges and Developer Impact (16:37) - Speculations and Theories on Intuit's Strategy (28:56) - Reframe Conference Details (31:30) - Trump's Tariffs and Foreign Trade Zones (33:52) - Introduction to Free Trade Zones (34:42) - Arizona's Dominance in Free Trade Zones (37:41) - Legal Challenges to Trump's Tariffs (40:29) - Intuit's Political Maneuvering (44:53) - New CPA Licensure Model (57:43) - Fraud and Government Inefficiencies (01:06:27) - Closing Remarks and New Podcasts  Show NotesSouth Carolina Senate votes to remove state treasurer over $1.8 billion accounting error https://www.thestate.com/news/politics-government/article287284067.htmlDeal CEO Alex Bouaziz relocates to Dubai amid Rippling lawsuit https://techcrunch.com/2024/04/15/deal-ceo-alex-bouaziz-has-relocated-to-dubai-amid-the-rippling-lawsuit/Rippling raises $450 million at $16.8 billion valuation https://techcrunch.com/2024/04/16/rippling-raises-450m-at-16-8b-valuation/AICPA and NASBA release model legislation for new CPA licensure pathway https://www.journalofaccountancy.com/news/2024/apr/aicpa-nasba-release-model-legislation-new-cpa-licensure-pathway.htmlFlorida Institute of CPAs successfully pauses bill to eliminate licensing boards https://www.ficpa.org/article/ficpa-advocacy-update-on-house-bill-639American Pope Leo XIV may need to file US tax returns https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/23/american-pope-leo-xiv-may-need-to-file-us-tax-returns.htmlForeign Trade Zones become tariff shelters amid Trump's trade policies https://www.wsj.com/economy/tariffs/foreign-trade-zones-become-tariff-shelters-for-small-firms-a5e81093Federal court questions constitutionality of Trump's Liberation Day tariffs https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-trade-court-questions-legality-biden-tariffs-2024-04-17/Elon Musk stepping aside at DOGE while work continues through 2026 https://www.axios.com/2024/04/22/elon-musk-stepping-aside-doge-juneIRS fails to meet improper payment rate goals for refundable tax credits https://www.treasury.gov/tigta/auditreports/2024reports/202440032fr.pdfCriminal groups stealing up to $1 trillion from US government programs https://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/hackers-stealing-us-government-money-rcna15002499.99% of Trump Memecoin buyers lost money while 58 wallets made over $10 million each https://www.chainalysis.com/reports/trump-memecoin-analysis-2024/Intuit's record lobbying spending and Republican support to eliminate IRS Direct File https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2024/04/intuit-turbotax-parent-spends-record-on-lobbying-amid-direct-file-rollout/Intuit Developer Program Changes https://developer.intuit.com/app/developer/homepageNeed CPE?Get CPE for listening to podcasts with Earmark: https://earmarkcpe.comSubscribe to the Earmark Podcast: https://podcast.earmarkcpe.comGet in TouchThanks for listening and the great reviews! We appreciate you! Follow and tweet @BlakeTOliver and @DavidLeary. Find us on Facebook and Instagram. If you like what you hear, please do us a favor and write a review on Apple Podcasts or Podchaser. Call us and leave a voicemail; maybe we'll play it on the show. DIAL (202) 695-1040.SponsorshipsAre you interested in sponsoring The Accounting Podcast? For details, read the prospectus.Need Accounting Conference Info? Check out our new website - accountingconferences.comLimited edition shirts, stickers, and other necessitiesTeePublic Store: http://cloudacctpod.link/merchSubscribeApple Podcasts: http://cloudacctpod.link/ApplePodcastsYouTube:
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May 16, 2025 • 1h 15min

Cut Your Tech Stack 50%, Threat to CPA in Florida, IRS Cuts Recap

Discover how consolidating technology could revolutionize accounting practices while cutting costs and boosting client satisfaction. Dive into the implications of a proposed Florida bill that threatens CPA licensure and reshapes the industry landscape. Learn about the transformative role of private equity in accounting firms and the push for faster results amidst AI advancements. Plus, explore the recent IRS workforce cuts and the critical discussions around tax fairness that could reshape perceptions nationwide.
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May 7, 2025 • 1h 18min

Firms Using AI Make More $, PCAOB Shutdown Fight, The Impossible Tariff Test

AI is shaking up the accounting world, with firms seeing an impressive $45,000 more revenue per employee. Discover how AI tools like Claude can streamline workflows and enhance productivity. The threat of AI voice scams is real, but you’ll learn protective tips against these sophisticated frauds. Amid talk of an impossible customs broker exam, the podcast opens a conversation about new career opportunities in accounting as tariff issues rise. Get ready for a fascinating dive into the future of finance and technology!
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May 1, 2025 • 1h 13min

Ramp Wants to Be the Federal Spend Card, Interview with Mark Koziel

Mark Koziel, CEO of the Association of International Certified Professional Accountants, dives into critical issues facing CPAs, including shocking restrictions on their professional title by some firms. He discusses the economic ramifications of tariff policies, which push corporations to adopt cost-cutting measures. The conversation also touches on plans to eliminate the PCAOB, the emergence of alternative CPA pathways across various states, and Ramp's ambition to revolutionize federal spend management.
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Apr 25, 2025 • 1h

Debits, Credits and Sniper Rifles: Reviewing the Accounting in The Accountant

In this bonus episode, David teams up with Caleb and Zach from Oh My Fraud to unpack the 2016 film The Accountant. Together, they explore how Hollywood portrays forensic accounting, internal controls, and what happens when your auditor brings a thermos full of sniper parts.Connect with David and Caleb https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidlearyhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/calebnewquistOh My Fraud Episodes mentioned in this episode https://ohmyfraud.com/episodes/the-fraud-came-first-remembering-crazy-eddie-with-gary-weisshttps://ohmyfraud.com/episodes/meet-the-fraudster-nathan-muellerhttps://ohmyfraud.com/episodes/blow-the-whistle-with-jason-zuckerman-and-matt-stockNeed CPE?Get CPE for listening to podcasts with Earmark: https://earmarkcpe.comSubscribe to the Earmark Podcast: https://podcast.earmarkcpe.comTranscriptsThe full transcript for this episode is available by clicking on the Transcript tab at the top of this page
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Apr 23, 2025 • 1h 21min

AI Spreadsheets, IRS Mass Resignations, Recession Signs

Could AI really revolutionize accounting by doing a day's work in mere minutes? Discover how innovations like Google's new Sheets formula and Xero's AI integration are transforming workflows. Also, hear about surprising recession indicators, including a drop in men’s underwear sales! The buzz surrounding the Baker Tilly and Moss Adams merger adds drama to the conversation. Plus, learn about the impact of revealing AI usage on professional reputation and what financial success means for most Americans.
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Apr 15, 2025 • 1h 35min

DOGE Proves IRS Can Move 100X Faster Without Red Tape

Dive into the impact of 145% tariffs on Chinese goods and how they threaten American businesses. Discover shocking stories from retailers and tech giants grappling with these policies. Meanwhile, the IRS experiences a modernization shake-up, turning a lengthy project into a rapid solution. Plus, hear about controversial directives affecting CPAs regarding their professional credentials. This dynamic discussion reveals the intertwining challenges of government efficiency, economic policies, and the accounting world.

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