
The AAMFT Podcast
The AAMFT Podcast is an all-access pass to the latest news, developments, and thought leaders in the world of systemic therapy. Hosted by Dr. Eli Karam, it strives to relate, educate, and innovate one episode at a time. The episodes explore topics that relationship-based therapists care about, and features unique conversations and interviews with established experts. The show provides information and education on direct practice and emerging trends in the MFT profession.
Latest episodes

Apr 9, 2021 • 56min
Episode 50: Eliana Gil
Eliana Gil is the founding partner of the Gil Instititue for Trauma Recovery and Education. A play therapy pioneer, Gil talks about integrating family therapy and play therapy and finding ways to invite children into the adult world through alternate ways of expression. She talks about how to feel comfortable in working with kids and enliven a process that many struggle with verbally. Finally, she shares that playfulness is for everyone, and has the ability to change energy and make people more present, often leading adults to rediscover their creativity and imagination.

Mar 26, 2021 • 49min
Episode 49: Ben Fineman and Caroline Wiita
Ben Fineman is an associate MFT and Caroline Wiita is a marriage and family therapist in training. Together they host the podcast Very Bad Therapy, which talks about what goes wrong in the therapy room and how it could go better, interviewing both clients who have had bad experiences and experts who share insight from their years of experience. In this episode, they discuss the need for young professionals to normalize asking for help, learning from mistakes, and self-reflection to improve client outcomes.The AAMFT Podcast is going live! Featuring interviews with authors from the Handbook of Systemic Family Therapy, a ground-breaking reference work on both the profession and the practice of systemic family therapy, guests discuss global mental health and other topics.See https://www.aamft.org/podcastlive for upcoming free, live episodes.

Mar 12, 2021 • 30sec
Episode 48: Markie Twist
Dr. Markie Twist is an award-winning sexuality educator and sexologist. In this episode, she discusses attachment and sexuality in the digital age and the need for MFTs to treat technology as a growing, changing member of the relational system. The Couple and Family Technology framework she co-developed is explained, as well as assessment and four essential micro-skills in addressing technology. Finally, she talks about the pandemic’s impact on digital intimacy.The AAMFT Podcast is going live! Featuring interviews with authors from the Handbook of Systemic Family Therapy, a ground-breaking reference work on both the profession and the practice of systemic family therapy, guests discuss global mental health and other topics. See https://www.aamft.org/podcastlive for upcoming free, live episodes.

Feb 26, 2021 • 57min
Episode 47: Celia Falicov
Celia Falicov is a family therapist, author, teacher, and clinician, internationally known for her work with Latino and immigrant populations. In this episode, she shares how she was shaped by her upbringing in Argentina, and later as she migrated to the US and studied in London. She discusses the differentiation between cultural diversity and social justice and reflects on the biggest changes she’s seen in cultural competency in the field along with the specific skills MFTs can use to increase cultural awareness.Now, see The AAMFT Podcast interviews in real time! Join us for The AAMFT Podcast Live Series, featuring interviews with authors from the Handbook of Systemic Family Therapy, a ground-breaking reference work on both the profession and the practice of systemic family therapy. Each session is free and offers one hour of continuing education. Register here for the first event with Gwyn Daniel on March 5.

Feb 12, 2021 • 1h 2min
Episode 46: Michael Yapko
Michael Yapko is a clinical psychologist and marriage and family therapist, internationally recognized for his work in developing strategic outcome focused psychotherapists and advancing the clinical applications of hypnosis. In this episode, he shares stories of the pioneers in the field that influenced him, and his own work in applying systemic thinking to hypnosis and strategic therapy. He dispels myths about hypnosis and discusses the nature of suggestion imbedded in all therapy, and how he merges it into the treatment of depression.

Jan 22, 2021 • 53min
Episode 45: Jose Szapocznik
Jose Szapocznik, of the University of Miami Miller School of Medicine, is the developer of Brief Strategic Family Therapy and one of the nation’s leading family therapists specializing in Hispanic families. In this episode, he discusses how he provides therapy consistent with Hispanic culture and using the family’s language. He shares how BSFT uses techniques from structural family therapy; transforming interactions from problematic to constructive using the family’s underlying strengths to heighten the human bond, and how it is kept brief by cultivating a highly participatory, governing coalition among the family.

Jan 8, 2021 • 53min
Episode 44: Frank Dattilio
Frank Dattilio, PhD, ABPP, is a leading figure in systemic therapy and clinical and forensic psychology, pioneering the integration of cognitive behavioral therapy with family systems. In this episode, he shares how his family of origin built resilience and shaped his career pursuits and gives practical insight into how CBT is used in a systems context. Frank reflects on the state of the profession and his desire to have his model and techniques used by future generations of MFTs.

Dec 11, 2020 • 47min
Episode 43: Harlene Anderson
Dr. Harlene Anderson is a founding member of the Houston Galveston Institute, and a cofounder for the Postmodern Collaborative Approach to therapy. With a psychology background, family therapy gave Anderson the systemic language and vocabulary to collaborate with clients as co-constructor. She discusses how speaking the family’s language models a listening/speaking process for families to use with one another, and allows the therapist to form a collaborative relationship that provides space for self-directed change.

Nov 20, 2020 • 1h 6min
Episode 42: Peter Fraenkel
Peter Fraenkel is internationally recognized clinical psychologist, writer, and presenter who specializes in last chance couples therapy. In this episode, he discusses his origins in the field and how he uses an integrated systems approach to work with couples on the brink of divorce. He shares techniques for an action-oriented, empirical approach using principles that help couples generate new thoughts and feelings about each other.

Nov 13, 2020 • 30sec
Episode 41: Christopher Belous and Jackie Williams-Reade
This week’s episode features chairs of AAMFT’s Topical Interest Networks to discuss emerging trends in their topic area and the benefits of being a member of the group.Dr. Christopher Belous, chair of the Couples and Intimate Relationships topical interest network, is an associate professor and the clinical director of the family therapy program at Purdue University Northwest. He discusses the value that the network offers members through trainings, research, consultation groups, and the belonging found as part of this network.Jackie Williams-Reade is chair of the Family Therapists in Healthcare network and professor at Loma Linda University. She talks about the integration of healthcare into mental health and how the TIN is addressing needs for MFTs who work in healthcare settings- both experienced and new to the field.Learn more at www.aamft.org/TIN