

Public Defenseless
Hunter Parnell
Anyone paying attention can tell you that our criminal legal system is perpetuating cruelty and harm, but the complexity of the legal world overwhelms most people simply trying to get through another day.
Public Defenseless explores the rot in the justice system and what we can do about it. Join host, Hunter Parnell, as he interviews top defense attorneys and criminal justice stakeholders from across the country as they pull apart the convoluted web of our criminal justice system.
Like so many of you, Hunter is not an attorney, simply tired of a news cycle and talking heads that offer no real solutions to the ever-growing list of problems we face. Hunter hopes that with this information, you will share his belief that ordinary people still can make a difference.
Public Defenseless explores the rot in the justice system and what we can do about it. Join host, Hunter Parnell, as he interviews top defense attorneys and criminal justice stakeholders from across the country as they pull apart the convoluted web of our criminal justice system.
Like so many of you, Hunter is not an attorney, simply tired of a news cycle and talking heads that offer no real solutions to the ever-growing list of problems we face. Hunter hopes that with this information, you will share his belief that ordinary people still can make a difference.
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Jan 28, 2025 • 1h 5min
323 | How One Inconsistent Eye Witness Led to the Wrongful Conviction of Ivery Dorsey w/Kerrie Liang
Today, Hunter spoke with Kerrie Liang, a student at Princeton University, to discuss the wrongful conviction of Ivery Dorsey. Through her and classmates work at Princeton, Kerrie walks us through how the inconsistent eye witness testimony of one person ultimately led to the wrongful conviction of Ivery. Guest Kerrie Liang, Student, Princeton University Resources: More Resources about Ivery's Case https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpV9qkt7JHM https://www.instagram.com/bringiveryhome/reel/CsKxrNrOGgy/ https://makinganexoneree.org/2023 https://www.gofundme.com/f/wrongfully-convictedlegal-help-for-ivery-dorsey https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/ivery-dorsey-case-princeton-students/ Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Jan 23, 2025 • 58min
322 | The Impact of and the Resistance to Mass Deportation Policies w/Hans Meyer and Holly Lucas
Today, Hunter spoke with Hans Meyer and Holly Lucas to discuss a variety of topics at the intersection of the criminal legal and immigration systems. With the Trump administration poised to implement a policy of mass deportation, Hans and Holly offer insights into how they have worked in court rooms and the Colorado State Legislature to guide Colorado to more humane immigration policies. Guest Holly Lucas, Public Defender, Colorado State Public Defender Hans Meyer, Criminal Defense and Immigration Lawyer, The Meyer Law Office Resources: Contact Hans https://themeyerlawoffice.com/ Laken Riley Act https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/aclu-statement-on-senate-advancing-laken-riley-act-to-final-vote What to do if ICE shows up https://www.nilc.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/EmployerGuide-NELP-NILC-2017-07-1.pdf https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/immigrants-rights Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Jan 22, 2025 • 37min
321 | How Virginia Prison Officials Lied About Red Onion Prisoner Lighting Themselves on Fire w/Elizabeth Weill-Greenberg
Today, Hunter spoke with Senior Reporter at The Appeal, Elizabeth Weill-Greenberg. A few weeks ago, Hunter was joined by Phil Wilayto of the Virginia Defender to talk about why prisoners of Virginia's Red Onion Prison were lighting themselves on fire. Today, Elizabeth joins to reveal how despite the public proclamations by DOC officials, prisoners were lighting themselves on fire all along. Guest Elizabeth Weill-Greenberg, Senior Reporter, The Appeal Resources: Follow Elizabeth https://x.com/elizabethweill https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:dld6gvzefnncxuiaccy2u3qn Read about Red Onion Prison https://theappeal.org/red-onion-virginia-prison-self-immolated/ https://www.vpm.org/news/2024-12-06/ekong-eshiet-kevin-rashid-johnson-red-onion-vadoc-wise-county https://virginiamercury.com/2025/01/09/rally-continues-call-for-investigation-into-red-onion-state-prison-presses-for-prison-reforms/ https://www.vpm.org/news/2025-01-10/red-onion-prison-incarceration-wise-county-pound-death-mike-jones https://www.prisonradio.org/news-update/red-onion-state-prison-update/ https://theappeal.org/virginia-prison-response-red-onion-self-immolation/ https://theappeal.org/prisoners-intentionally-burned-themselves-red-onion-state-prison-virginia/ Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Jan 21, 2025 • 1h 20min
320 | Carceral Apartheid: How Lies and White Supremacists Run Our Prisons w/Brittany Friedman
Today, Hunter spoke with Professor Brittany Freidman about her new book Carceral Apartheid. In this book, Professor Freidman tells the story of the California Prison System, the racist violence the system permits to exist, and how the prison system used all of us power to crush the political arm of the Black Guerilla Family. Through this conversation, Hunter and Professor Freidman hope to demonstrate what our system does and does not permit to continue. Guest Brittany Friedman, Professor of Sociology, University of Southern California Resources: Pick up a Copy of Brittany's Book https://uncpress.org/book/9781469683409/carceral-apartheid/ COINTELPRO https://vault.fbi.gov/cointel-pro https://kinginstitute.stanford.edu/federal-bureau-investigation-fbi https://www.pbs.org/hueypnewton/actions/actions_cointelpro.html https://www.npr.org/2021/01/18/956741992/documentary-exposes-how-the-fbi-tried-to-destroy-mlk-with-wiretaps-blackmail https://www.lib.berkeley.edu/about/news/fbi https://www.brandeis.edu/writing-program/write-now/2018-2019/silverman-jacob/index.html https://ccrjustice.org/home/blog/2020/08/04/fbi-s-legacy-smearing-movements-terrorism-justify-suppression https://moguldom.com/448109/fact-check-before-malcolm-x-was-murdered-j-edgar-hoover-sent-message-do-something-about-malcolm-x/ https://www.upi.com/Archives/1969/07/16/J-Edgar-Hoover-Black-Panther-Greatest-Threat-to-US-Security/1571551977068/ https://onlineexhibits.library.yale.edu/s/black-panther-may-day/page/the-black-panthers-and-the-fb Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Jan 16, 2025 • 1h 7min
319 | How a Petty Theft Could get you 180 Days in Jail in Rifle Municipal Court w/Scott Troxell
Today, Hunter sat down with Scott Troxell to wrap up our conversation on Colorado Municipal Courts. This time, the conversation focuses on how Rifle Municipal Courts were giving people 6 Months sentences for thefts that the state only gave 10 day sentences. Guest Scott Troxell, Attorney, Glenwood Springs, Colorado Resources: 2017 ACLU Report on Colorado Municipal Courts https://www.aclu-co.org/sites/default/files/JUSTICE-DERAILED-web.pdf Coverage of Municipal Courts in Rifle by Denver Post https://www.denverpost.com/2024/12/24/colorado-legislature-municipal-court-bills/ https://www.denverpost.com/2024/09/22/colorado-municipal-courts-sentences-minor-crime/ ACLU Amicus Brief https://www.aclu-co.org/en/cases/mobley-v-city-rifle-amicus Rifle Changes Ordinance https://www.coloradopolitics.com/courts/colorado-supreme-court-dimisses-appeal-after-rifle-backs-down/article_1ff3e57e-9e04-11ee-9a8a-6b95521cebde.html Current Colorado Supreme Court Issues https://www.aclu-co.org/en/cases/camp-v-city-westminster-amicus https://www.aclu-co.org/sites/default/files/field_documents/2024-11-07_aclu_cff_amicus_br.pdf Contact Scott scott@troxell-legal.com Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Jan 15, 2025 • 1h 9min
318 | How to Fight and Abolish the Death Penalty Outside of the Courtroom w/Abraham Bonowitz
Today, Hunter sat down with longtime death penalty abolitionist activist Abraham Bonowitz. On previous episodes about death penalty abolition, the show has primarily focused on the successes and failures of the fight in the court room. Today however, Abe joins the show to discuss the types of media campaigns and coalition building that is necessary to fight and ultimately abolish the death penalty outside of the four corners of the court house. Guest Abraham Bonowitz, Executive Director, Death Penalty Action Resources: Death Penalty Action contact https://deathpenaltyaction.org/ https://www.facebook.com/deathpenaltyaction https://x.com/DeathPenaltyAct https://www.instagram.com/deathpenaltyaction/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMW5q-nvTO9XSm38BwgwJgw Melissa Lucio https://freemelissalucio.org/ https://www.amazon.com/State-Texas-Vs-Melissa-Special/dp/B08L3Q69NR https://www.peacocktv.com/watch-online/movies/the-state-of-texas-vs.-melissa/1e71f675-ac8e-303c-a9fa-5dae467c02df https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/trial-judge-declares-melissa-lucio-to-be-actually-innocent-recommends-texas-cca-overturn-conviction-and-death-sentence https://www.texastribune.org/2024/04/15/melissa-lucio-death-penalty-judge-overturn/ Commutations https://www.npr.org/2024/12/25/nx-s1-5237504/biden-gets-support-for-commuting-federal-death-row-sentences-for-37-of-40-prisoners https://www.newsweek.com/death-row-joe-biden-commute-dylann-roof-dzhokhar-tsarnaev-robert-bowers-2005007 https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/in-wake-of-president-bidens-federal-commutations-north-carolina-governor-cooper-grants-clemency-to-15-death-sentenced-prisoners-the-largest-grant-of-capital-clemency-in-state-history https://www.npr.org/2024/12/23/g-s1-38794/biden-death-row-commutations https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/two-prisoners-cant-legally-object-bidens-death-row-commutations-doj-ar-rcna186280 https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/23/us/politics/biden-commutes-37-death-sentences.html Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Jan 14, 2025 • 54min
317 | How Pueblo Municipal Court Used Contempt of Court to Send People to Jail for Years w/Keri Williams
Today, Hunter sat down with Keri Williams to continue our coverage of Municipal Courts in Colorado. This time, they discussed how Pueblo Municipal Courts were giving people years in jail for contempt of court charges. Guest Keri Williams, Attorney, Pueblo, Colorado Resources: 2017 ACLU Report on Colorado Municipal Courts https://www.aclu-co.org/sites/default/files/JUSTICE-DERAILED-web.pdf Coverage of Municipal Courts in Pueblo by Denver Post https://www.denverpost.com/2024/07/21/pueblo-municipal-contempt-of-court-charges-jail-time/ https://www.denverpost.com/2024/08/01/pueblo-municipal-court-workplace-investigation/ https://www.denverpost.com/2024/09/11/pueblo-contempt-court-city-defends-investigation/ https://www.denverpost.com/2024/10/11/pueblo-judge-contempt-of-court-aclu-challenge/ https://www.denverpost.com/2024/12/10/pueblo-inmates-released-contempt-court-ruled-unconstitutional/ Contact Keri keri.williams@beckerlawgroup.net https://www.beckerlawgroup.net/ Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Jan 9, 2025 • 1h 9min
316 | The Everyday Cruelty in Westminster Municipal Court w/Alison Gordon
Today, Hunter sat down with Alison Gordon to continue our coverage of Municipal Courts in Colorado. This time, the discussion focuses on the extremely punitive Westminster Municipal Court. Guest Alison Gordon, Associate Attorney, McCabe Law Resources: 2017 ACLU Report on Colorado Municipal Courts https://www.aclu-co.org/sites/default/files/JUSTICE-DERAILED-web.pdf Contact Alison Alison@mccabe-law.net https://www.mccabe-law.net/ Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Jan 7, 2025 • 1h 17min
315 | How People Are Denied the Right to Counsel in Grand Junction Municipal Court w/Tristan Gorman and Rebecca Wallace
Today, Tristan Gorman and Rebecca Wallace are back this time to discuss municipal courts in Colorado. This episode is the first of our four-part series on municipal courts in Colorado. This episode gives a general overview of problems in this courts and then dives into the outright denial of counsel happening in Grand Junction's Municipal Court. Guest Tristan Gorman, Policy Director, Colorado Criminal Defense Bar Rebecca Wallace, Policy Director, Colorado Freedom Fund Resources: 2017 ACLU Report on Colorado Municipal Courts https://www.aclu-co.org/sites/default/files/JUSTICE-DERAILED-web.pdf Coverage by the Denver Post https://www.denverpost.com/2024/10/17/grand-junction-municipal-court-public-defenders-right-to-counsel/ Coverage by Grand Junction Daily Sentinel https://www.gjsentinel.com/news/western_colorado/grand-junction-municipal-court-accused-of-constitutional-violations/article_abbff94a-8d8b-11ef-af0d-a3597da2fba4.html CFF Website https://www.coloradofreedomfund.org/ CCDB Website https://ccdb.org/ Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Jan 2, 2025 • 1h 15min
314 | The Policies Making Colorado More "Tough on Crime" w/Tristan Gorman and Rebecca Wallace
Today, Tristan Gorman and Rebecca Wallace join the show to discuss the policies, ballot initiatives, and rhetoric from district attorneys that is pushing Colorado back in a "tough on crime" direction. Through their work with their respective organizations, Rebecca and Tristan are intimately familiar with the conversations that the state legislature engage in around crime and the criminal legal system. Guest Tristan Gorman, Policy Director, Colorado Criminal Defense Bar Rebecca Wallace, Policy Director, Colorado Freedom Fund Resources: Colorado Freedom Fund Links https://www.coloradofreedomfund.org/ https://www.coloradofreedomfund.org/2024-legislation Colorado Criminal Defense Bar https://ccdb.org/ Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home


