

Public Defenseless
Hunter Parnell
Anyone paying attention can tell you that our criminal legal system is perpetuating cruelty and harm, but the complexity of the legal world overwhelms most people simply trying to get through another day.
Public Defenseless explores the rot in the justice system and what we can do about it. Join host, Hunter Parnell, as he interviews top defense attorneys and criminal justice stakeholders from across the country as they pull apart the convoluted web of our criminal justice system.
Like so many of you, Hunter is not an attorney, simply tired of a news cycle and talking heads that offer no real solutions to the ever-growing list of problems we face. Hunter hopes that with this information, you will share his belief that ordinary people still can make a difference.
Public Defenseless explores the rot in the justice system and what we can do about it. Join host, Hunter Parnell, as he interviews top defense attorneys and criminal justice stakeholders from across the country as they pull apart the convoluted web of our criminal justice system.
Like so many of you, Hunter is not an attorney, simply tired of a news cycle and talking heads that offer no real solutions to the ever-growing list of problems we face. Hunter hopes that with this information, you will share his belief that ordinary people still can make a difference.
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Jan 6, 2026 • 1h 13min
430 | How Las Vegas Casinos Got a Special Court that Allows them to Punish Poverty on the Las Vegas Strip w/Dallas Anselmo and Olivia Miller
Today, Hunter was joined by Olivia Miller and Dallas Anselmo of the Clark County Public Defender Office. They joined to discuss the "corridor court" operating along the Las Vegas Strip. This specialty court, created at the urging of the casinos and resorts, funnels criminal defendants into a singular court room where people can be effectively banished from the entirety of the strip for seemingly minor crimes. In doing so, the corridor court gives casinos the power to unfairly police poverty along the strip. As a note, the views expressed on today's show by Olivia and Dallas are their own and do not necessarily reflect the view of the Clark County Public Defender Office. Guest: Dallas Anselmo, Public Defender, Clark County, Nevada Olivia Miller, Public Defender, Clark County, Nevada Resources: Learn More about the office https://www.clarkcountynv.gov/government/departments/public_defender/ Learn More about the Courts https://thenevadaindependent.com/article/vegas-resorts-want-to-revive-court-geared-at-cleaning-up-strip-critics-say-it-was-a-failure https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/critics-say-this-court-program-targeted-the-homeless-heres-why-strip-casinos-want-it-back-3530051/ https://lasvegassun.com/news/2025/nov/13/nevada-lawmakers-revisit-court-that-barred-offende/ https://mynorthwest.com/national/nevada-governor-signs-sweeping-crime-bill-as-state-looks-to-boost-tourism/4167419 Contact Olivia and Dallas oliviamiller620@gmail.com dallasanselmo@gmail.com Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Dec 24, 2025 • 13min
2025 Wrap Up
Today, Hunter wraps up 2025 with one last episode! Guest: Resources: Top 10 Episodes of 2025 334 | Was a Former Colorado Public Defender Fired for Raising Concerns over his Workload? w/Travis Weiner 335 | How Sec Def Austin Interfered with the 9/11 and U.S.S. Cole Case Plea Deals w/Allison Miller and Katie Carmon 336 | How the San Mateo Private Defender Program is Trying to Earn Back the Community's Trust w/Lisa Maguire and Harpreet Samra 328 | How the Laken Riley Act Could Get Innocent People Sent to Guantanamo Bay w/Ann Block and Nithya Nathan-Pineau 331 | How the Far West Texas Public Defenders Uncovered a Pattern of Discovery Violations in El Paso w/James McDermott and Paul Chambers 333 | How The American Eugenics Movement Helped Create Habitual Offender Laws w/Daniel Loehr 355 | How Missouri Public Defenders are Leading the Nation In Statewide Holistic Defender Services w/Missouri Public Defenders 322 | The Impact of and the Resistance to Mass Deportation Policies w/Hans Meyer and Holly Lucas 400 | Why the Lawyers Handling 80% of Massachusetts's Public Defender Cases Stopped Taking New Cases w/Shira Diner 316 | The Everyday Cruelty in Westminster Municipal Court w/Alison Gordon Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Dec 23, 2025 • 60min
429 | How Technology Can Improve Public Defense in and out of the Courtroom w/Mohammed Al Rawi and Ryan Wolfe
Today, Hunter was joined by Mohammed Al Rawi and Ryan Wolfe of ZLS.App. The three discussed how ZLS is helping public defenders improve case management with automated systems. With better case management systems, public defenders are better equipped to collect and track the data that public defenders need to justify their requests to the legislatures. Guest: Mohammed Al Rawi, Co-Founder. ZLS.app Ryan Wolfe, Co-Founder, ZLS.app Resources: Find ZLS Here https://zls.app/ Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Dec 18, 2025 • 1h 1min
428 | How Will New Leadership Handle Missouri Public Defender's Low Pay and the State's Mental Health Resource Crisis w/Matthew Crowell
Today, Hunter was joined by the new Chief Public Defender for the state of Missouri, Matthew Crowell. Matthew and Hunter discussed a range of topics that Matthew is now facing as the Chief and how he hopes to tackle them. Guest: Matthew Crowell, Chief Public Defender, Missouri Resources: Contact the Missouri Public Defender Here https://publicdefender.mo.gov/ Lawsuit https://www.aclu-mo.org/en/news/advocates-sue-missouri-department-mental-health-failing-treat-pretrial-detainees-living-mental Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Dec 16, 2025 • 1h 9min
427 | What Happened to Public Defense in Stanislaus County After They Started Talking About Not Taking New Cases? w/Jennifer Jennison
Today, Hunter was joined once again by Stanislaus County Chief Public Defender Jennifer Jennison. Last time she was one the show, Jennifer detailed how she made the decision to make her office unavailable for new cases because of the unethical workload in her office. Now, Jennifer is back to tell us what came of that decision and what is next for the office. Guest: Jennifer Jennison, Chief Public Defender, Stanislaus County, California Resources: Modesto Bee Reporting https://www.modbee.com/news/local/article288551423.html Stanislaus County Public Defender https://www.stancounty.com/publicdefender/ OSPD Reporting on Public Defense in California https://www.ospd.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Californias-58-Public-Defense-Systems-Accessible.pdf Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Dec 11, 2025 • 52min
426 | The Conservative Arkansas County Trying to Stop a Prison Being Built Next Door w/Lauren Gill
Today, Hunter was joined by Bolts Magazine staff writer, Lauren Gill. Back in September, Lauren authored a remarkable piece about how a small county in rural Arkansas responded to the threat of a new prison being built in their back yard. Guest: Lauren Gill, Staff Writer, Bolts Mag Resources: Check Out Lauren's Work https://x.com/laurenk_gill https://boltsmag.org/authors/lauren-gill/ Read the Article Here https://boltsmag.org/arkansas-prison-franklin-county/ Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Dec 9, 2025 • 1h 6min
*AUDIO FIXED* 425 | How Ramsey County Prosecutors and Public Defenders are Collaborating to Improve the Legal System w/John Choi and Greg Egan
Today, Hunter was joined by Greg Egan and John Choi. For the first time on the show, a Public Defender and the District Attorney join the show at the same time to describe how their collaborative efforts have improved public safety without mass incarceration. Guest: Greg Egan, Public Defender, Ramsey County, Minnesota John Choi, Elected District Attorney, Ramsey County, Minnesota Resources: Contact John https://www.ramseycountymn.gov/your-government/leadership/county-attorneys-office/meet-john-j-choi https://www.ramseycountymn.gov/your-government/leadership/county-attorneys-office john.choi@co.ramsey.mn.us https://www.ramseycountymn.gov/your-government/projects-initiatives/transforming-systems-together/youth-justice-transformation Contact Greg linkedin.com/in/greg-egan-2a5a5359 greg.egan@pubdef.state.mn.us We Resolve https://weresolve-mn.com/about-us/ Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Dec 4, 2025 • 1h 7min
424 | If You Cannot Afford an Attorney, None Will Be Appointed to You w/Andrew Davies and Shelby Sirivore
Andrew Davies, Director of Research at the Deason Center, and Shelby Sirivore, an independent contractor, delve into the complexities of indigent defense in Texas. They discuss how local policies can drastically affect access to legal representation for those who can’t afford an attorney. The duo highlights the alarming disparity in indigency thresholds across counties and examines trends in appointed counsel rates. They also explore how rural public defender offices mitigate attorney shortages, showing that these offices significantly increase representation for the unrepresented.

Dec 2, 2025 • 1h 5min
423 | How the Los Angeles Public Defender is Revolutionizing the Representation of People with Neurocognitive Disorders w/Noah Cox
Noah Cox, a Deputy Public Defender in Los Angeles, leads the Neurocognitive Disorders Team, aiming to revolutionize legal representation for clients with cognitive impairments. He discusses the challenges in court before the team's establishment and differences between neurocognitive disorders and mental illness. Noah highlights a unique screening process and the importance of empathy in legal settings. He emphasizes client-centered goals and a collaborative approach among legal and support systems, paving the way for effective advocacy for vulnerable populations.

Nov 26, 2025 • 1h 4min
422 | What Does it Take to Undo California's Legacy of Mass Incarceration? w/Danielle Harris
Danielle Harris, Managing Attorney of the Freedom Project at the San Francisco Public Defender's Office, specializes in post-conviction relief for those serving harsh sentences. She highlights the impact of mass incarceration policies like three strikes laws and discusses the importance of resentencing reforms. Danielle shares compelling stories of teen offenders tried as adults and the urgency of legal changes to rectify injustices. With funding for her project expiring, she emphasizes the vital need for continued support to resolve these systemic issues.


