

Lessons from the Playroom
Lisa Dion
The Synergetic Play Therapy Institute's "Lessons From the Playroom" Podcasts are a series of recorded podcasts designed to help therapists understand the little lessons that kids teach us that make a big difference in the play therapy process.
Our podcast host, Lisa Dion, LPC, RPT-S, is an innovative and inspiring teacher and pioneer in play therapy. She founder and President of the Synergetic Play Therapy Institute and the creator of Synergetic Play Therapy, a cutting-edge model of play therapy that bridges the gap between neuroscience and psychology. Lisa teaches and supervises all over the world, helping transform the lives of thousands of therapists and children. With these podcasts, she'll teach you practical ways to transform both you and the child clients you work with. These inspiring educational lessons are sure to leave you feeling more confident and excited for your next session!
Our podcast host, Lisa Dion, LPC, RPT-S, is an innovative and inspiring teacher and pioneer in play therapy. She founder and President of the Synergetic Play Therapy Institute and the creator of Synergetic Play Therapy, a cutting-edge model of play therapy that bridges the gap between neuroscience and psychology. Lisa teaches and supervises all over the world, helping transform the lives of thousands of therapists and children. With these podcasts, she'll teach you practical ways to transform both you and the child clients you work with. These inspiring educational lessons are sure to leave you feeling more confident and excited for your next session!
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Sep 5, 2023 • 26min
Special: How Trying to be Calm Gets in the Way of Regulation
Original Air Date: April 26, 2022 In this Lessons from the Playroom podcast from August 2022, Lisa clarifies one of the biggest misconceptions out there right now for parents and therapists - that regulation means being CALM. ...You've likely heard the idea that a child needs a calm adult in order to regulate - that in order to regulate, the adult needs to be and stay calm - or that an adult's "calm" presence is the answer to regulating a child when they are dysregulated. But if you've ever tried to truly stay calm when a child is activated, screaming, throwing a tantrum, doing something scary, or even shutting down and withdrawing, you know that it's actually really hard to be or stay calm (... nearly impossible) because inside you're likely feeling your own activation and states of dysregulation. So what do we do instead? .... Join Lisa is this discussion and learn: What regulation is and what it isn't (defining regulation in relation to the autonomic nervous system); How to access our ventral state in the midst of a child's dysregulation; What regulation (and co-regulation) really looks like in the moment (... hint: it's not to calm them down or try to look calm as the adult to calm them down); Why regulation is not better than dysregulation (calm is not better than mad or anxious for example) - it's all information and both are necessary for integration and learning how to regulate; How the impulse to get a child to "calm down" has very little to do with the child and everything to do with us and our inability in the moment to access our ventral state; The key to not setting ourselves up for shame and helplessness as parents/caregivers and therapists when our children or child clients are dysregulated, flooded, and overwhelmed; A new definition of emotional intelligence and a new way to cultivate emotional intelligence for children by helping them connect to themselves and access their ventral in the midst of all that activation. Let's put the word "calm" in the drawer for a little while ... Not forever because calm is an important state of the nervous system and just as important as all the other ones ... But just for a little while because we've become overly attached to the word... … And consider replacing "calm" with the word "connect." - To connect to ourselves in our own moments of dysregulation and when we're with a child that is starting to get activated and dysregulated. And next time we read or hear something that says a child needs a calm adult when they're having a hard time or are dysregulated, pause for a second and understand that what a child really needs is an adult that can connect to ventral, to themselves, be honest about their internal experience, not need to runaway from it, but knows how to be in it without losing themselves - not for the adult to pretend they are calm when inside they're having a really challenging time. Podcast Resources: Synergetic Play Therapy Institute Synergetic Play Therapy Learning Website FREE Resources to support you on your play therapy journey Aggression in Play Therapy: A Neurobiological Approach to Integrating Intensity * If you enjoy this podcast, please give us a five-star rating and review on Apple Podcast, subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts, and invite your friends/fellow colleagues to join us.

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Aug 29, 2023 • 48min
153. Jodi Mullen: When Sexualized Play Shows Up in the Playroom
Dr. Jodi Mullen, a professor and play therapist, discusses sexualized play with insightful topics including red flags and themes in therapy, discerning medical trauma vs. sexualized trauma, and discussing suspicions of sexual abuse with parents.

Aug 22, 2023 • 24min
Special: How to Stay Inspired as a Therapist
Original Air Date: August 23, 2019 The brain is a high maintenance organ, one that wants a challenge! In order to stay passionate in our careers as play therapists, we must give the brain the growth it craves. But we must give ourselves permission too – the permission to be ourselves and pursue what inspires us. "We all have deep within us the desire to pursue something that inspires us. We have a natural desire to evolve and grow" - Lisa Dion Podcast Resources: Synergetic Play Therapy Institute Synergetic Play Therapy Learning Website FREE Resources to support you on your play therapy journey Aggression in Play Therapy: A Neurobiological Approach to Integrating Intensity * If you enjoy this podcast, please give us a five-star rating and review on Apple Podcast, subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts, and invite your friends/fellow colleagues to join us.

Aug 15, 2023 • 49min
152. Gabriel Lomas: Working with Deaf Children in the Playroom
Lisa is joined by another very very special guest, Gabriel (Gabe) Lomas, to cover a topic that has never been addressed on this podcast (...and very rarely at a play therapy conference) … Understanding and working with deaf children in the playroom. Gabe is a professor and Program Director of Counseling Programs at Gallaudet University in Washington, DC. He's been an RPT-S for many years and is the immediate past president of the New York branch of the Association for Play Therapy. Gabriel has performed assessment and treatment in over 2000 child welfare cases, including hundreds involving deaf children or deaf parents. He is the co-editor of the book "Deaf People in the Criminal Justice System: Selected Topics on Advocacy, Incarceration and Social Justice." As well as many journal articles and book chapters in the field of counseling and psychology. He is a popular expert witness in courts across the nation where he consults on issues related to assessment and deaf people. Amazing! Here's what you can expect in this podcast episode: What we need to understand about children who are deaf and how these children can be easily misunderstood; Some of the challenges that arise for children as a result of being deaf including impact in the parent-child relationship and on emotional development; How deaf children deserve to be spoke to in a language that makes sense to them; How play therapy can build a bridge for greater understanding of children who are deaf including understanding perceptions of themselves and their world; How to join the world of a deaf child in a play therapy session and offer the child a felt sense of being understood and seen; and What we can be aware of in terms of advocating for children who are deaf to be heard and get the support and services that they need. Listen to this beautiful episode that will give a sense of what the world is like for a child who is deaf and how we can more fully support and advocate in our role as therapists, parents, educators, etc.; hear several case examples from Gabriel's own life experiences working as a play therapist and in child welfare; and stay tuned to the end to find out what Gabriel thinks are the superpowers of children who are deaf. 💖 * For a video recording with subtitles, please visit our website: https://synergeticplaytherapy.com/152-gabriel-lomas-working-with-deaf-children-in-the-playroom/ Podcast Resources: Synergetic Play Therapy Institute Synergetic Play Therapy Learning Website FREE Resources to support you on your play therapy journey Aggression in Play Therapy: A Neurobiological Approach to Integrating Intensity * If you enjoy this podcast, please give us a five-star rating and review on Apple Podcast, subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts, and invite your friends/fellow colleagues to join us.

Aug 8, 2023 • 19min
Special: Boredom in the Playroom
Original Air Date: October 1, 2017 Boredom in the playroom is something most therapists experience - from an unyielding yawn to counting the ticks of a slow-moving clock, we've all found ourselves less than enthused in one session or another. But boredom isn't always a negative thing. Sometimes, it's a gentle reminder that it's time to grow. "Boredom in the playroom may be a messenger. This turns it from something negative into your greatest friend." -Lisa Dion Podcast Resources: Synergetic Play Therapy Institute Synergetic Play Therapy Learning Website FREE Resources to support you on your play therapy journey Aggression in Play Therapy: A Neurobiological Approach to Integrating Intensity * If you enjoy this podcast, please give us a five-star rating and review on Apple Podcast, subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts, and invite your friends/fellow colleagues to join us.

Aug 1, 2023 • 49min
151. Dee Ray: Multiculturalism in Play Therapy
Lisa Dion has with her an extraordinary guest, Dr. Dee Ray to talk about an incredibly important topic for us as play therapists, Multiculturalism in Play Therapy (... if you don't already have Dee's book, Multicultural Play Therapy, we hope you'll go buy it by the end of this podcast. It's a must-have for every therapist that works with kids!) Dee Ray, Ph.D., LPC-S, NCC, RPT-S is Regents Professor and Elaine Millikan Mathes Professor in Early Childhood Education in the Counseling Program and Co-Director of the Center for Play Therapy at the University of North Texas. She has published over 150 articles, chapters, and books in the field of play therapy. Dr. Ray is a founding board member and past president of the Association for Child and Adolescent Counseling, as well as current board chair of the Association for Play Therapy. Dr. Ray also co-created and oversees the international certification program for Child-Centered Play Therapy and Child-Parent Relationship Therapy, as well as currently operates the counseling practice, EmpathyWell, in Highland Village, TX where she facilitates play therapy, training, and supervision. In this episode, you'll learn: What multicultural play therapy is and what it means to be culturally-inclusive play therapist; What cultural humility is and how it is the cornerstone for cultural opportunity; Some of the barriers and fears that prevent us from connecting fully with ourselves and our child clients; What to do when a rupture occurs in our relationship with our client (...guaranteed to happen) and how to bring in cultural humility and cultural comfort to create cultural opportunity; How to develop a more multicultural orientation when working in the context of the family system or working with parents/caregivers; and What research says about a multicultural playroom and how to extend multiculturalism to your play therapy room. Enjoy this incredibly important discussion that we hope you'll then share with whomever you feel like could also benefit from learning more about multiculturalism in play therapy. Let's all bring multiculturalism more into our playrooms! Podcast Resources: Synergetic Play Therapy Institute Synergetic Play Therapy Learning Website FREE Resources to support you on your play therapy journey Aggression in Play Therapy: A Neurobiological Approach to Integrating Intensity * If you enjoy this podcast, please give us a five-star rating and review on Apple Podcast, subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts, and invite your friends/fellow colleagues to join us.

Jul 25, 2023 • 47min
Special: The Topic We Don't Study Enough As Therapists
Original Air Date: June 07, 2022 Lisa has a really special guest joining her for this episode and they're doing something different today … It's time to talk about business! - One of the most important topics we don't talk much about as therapists. And to help Lisa out with this conversation, she has Jen Taylor who's going to be interviewing her on her business journey. If you've ever wondered about Lisa and her entrepreneurial journey, what it took for her to build the Synergetic Play Therapy Institute or create this podcast, get ready for an insightful and inspiring conversation where you'll get to know Lisa a little more and get some business insights along the way. Tune in and hear the answers to some very fun questions such as: What was Lisa like as a child and how did this influence her becoming a business owner and entrepreneur? How did Lisa hone her craft as a teacher (...and some tricks she uses to manage the anxiety she has before she teaches or gets on stage- yes she still gets anxious!)? How did Lisa give herself permission to go after her dreams? (and ways you can too!) How did Lisa learn to tackle and work with her fears? How did Lisa reconcile the challenge and conflicting feelings of wanting to be of service and make money at the same time? How did Lisa come to learn about the ins-and-outs of business as a therapist? (...because it's not something we learn in graduate school) Why does she spend money on learning about business (the same way we do as therapists for training and certifications) and why did she take the same business course 4 times? What was the most valuable lesson Lisa learned as she reflected on some of the biggest unsuccessful business decisions she's ever made on her entrepreneurial journey? Plus, hear answers to some more personal questions like: What is one of her favorite business books; Her biggest pet peeve on the business journey; The worst business advice she's ever received; and The best advice she would give her younger self now. Listen to this episode and learn insight's from Lisa's journey on how to manage some of the learning curves, detours, and clunkiness of having a business, while continuing to stay focused on your dreams as the deepest expression of yourself. If you want more, join Lisa for The Business of Therapy, a 2.5 day live (and virtual hybrid) course on Nov 9-11, 2023. Lisa is so excited to get therapists in a room to teach them, not only the nuts and bolts of the business of therapy, but the psychology of being an entrepreneur - come learn how to write the book, launch the podcast, start your private practice or take your existing business to the next level! And something we do well as therapists is be in community - rallying around each other, playing, and bringing the conversation of business to life. *Some of you might be very familiar with Jen Taylor. She's done amazing things in this world and to support play therapists worldwide. She's a therapist, teacher and writer. She originally launched the Play Therapy Summit a few years ago and she's been a previous guest talking about cooperative games. Find her here.

Jul 18, 2023 • 45min
150. Marshall Lyles: Ableism and Disablism in the Playroom
The beautiful Marshall Lyles is again joining Lisa Dion for another Lessons from the Playroom episode, but this time to talk about understanding Ableism and Disablism in the Playroom. Marshall Lyles, LMFT-S, LPC-S, RPT-S, EMDRIA Approved Consultant, has 20 years of practice in family play therapy. Drawing on lessons learned from working with attachment trauma in a variety of settings, Marshall regularly teaches on sandtray therapy and family work around the globe. In our opinion, Marshall is one of the leading voices in helping us understand ableism and disablism. You can connect with him at www.marshalllyles.com. In this episode, Marshall and Lisa tackle this commonly occurring, yet secretly held subject of ableism and disablism in our field. Here's what you'll hear: How ableism and institutionalized ableism has entered our profession, and how we might be perpetuating ableist norms for our clients or even for each other as therapists; How to step into the mind of another in order to really have the sufficient mentalization to think critically about our own play spaces and our play therapy practices; How to initiate repair when rupture happens due to unawareness or assuming all minds and bodies work in the same way; and How to more fully celebrate the uniqueness of individuals and help individuals love and appreciate themselves exactly as they are. You're invited to listen to this episode and take Marshalls' wisdom to heart to discover ways to more fully welcome your clients' mind and body into the therapeutic space. As well, to stay true to you as a clinician and do what you need to care for your heart, your mind, and your body. Podcast Resources: Synergetic Play Therapy Institute Synergetic Play Therapy Learning Website FREE Resources to support you on your play therapy journey Aggression in Play Therapy: A Neurobiological Approach to Integrating Intensity * If you enjoy this podcast, please give us a five-star rating and review on Apple Podcast, subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts, and invite your friends/fellow colleagues to join us.

Jul 11, 2023 • 27min
Special: Working with a Child's Emotional Age in Play Therapy
Original Air Date: August 13, 2020 When our clients come to session it is easy to get caught up in thinking that they are their age, when in fact, they are not their age. At least not their chronological age. This episode is dedicated to helping you begin to understand the difference between emotional age and chronological age, a few clues to help you spot emotional age and regression, and how to work with these younger states in both your clients and yourself when they arise in the play room. * "When a child comes into play therapy, we are not working with their chronological age, but their emotional age." - Lisa Dion Podcast Resources: Synergetic Play Therapy Institute Synergetic Play Therapy Learning Website FREE Resources to support you on your play therapy journey Aggression in Play Therapy: A Neurobiological Approach to Integrating Intensity * If you enjoy this podcast, please give us a five-star rating and review on Apple Podcast, subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts, and invite your friends/fellow colleagues to join us.

Jul 4, 2023 • 40min
149. Annie Monaco: Welcoming Dissociation in the Playroom
In this episode, we're talking about a topic that we've never discussed, but is such an important topic to our work as play therapists. And that is dissociation. To have this discussion, Lisa has with her the fabulous Annie Monaco. Annie is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker, Registered Play Therapist, and faculty member of the Child Trauma Institute. With over 20 years of experience, Annie is a global trainer and has a specialty in EMDR Therapy with children and teens, and advanced training in attachment and dissociation in children especially with aggressive and hostile parts of self - she's the perfect person to learn more about this topic! Here's what you'll learn in this episode: A usable definition of dissociation beyond the textbook to really get a sense for how it shows up in our client sessions; How dissociation reflects the child's inside personal struggles and what it looks like; Understanding dissociation connected to complex or developmental trauma; How to help a child, parent, and even us as the therapist have compassion for all of the parts of the child (...a critical part of a child's treatment process); Activities and strategies to support children in exploring all of their parts of themselves and facilitate a path to healing. Also, Annie shares a great question that you can ask children to really begin to understand the parts of themselves. You'll definitely want to have this question in your play therapy toolbox! Enjoy this conversation that will take you beyond textbook understanding of dissociation and demystify what dissociation looks like for our clients (.... and even for ourselves)! Podcast Resources: Synergetic Play Therapy Institute Synergetic Play Therapy Learning Website FREE Resources to support you on your play therapy journey Aggression in Play Therapy: A Neurobiological Approach to Integrating Intensity * If you enjoy this podcast, please give us a five-star rating and review on Apple Podcast, subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts, and invite your friends/fellow colleagues to join us.


