

Lessons from the Playroom
Lisa Dion
The Synergetic Play Therapy Institute's “Lessons From the Playroom” Podcasts are a series of recorded podcasts designed to help therapists understand the little lessons that kids teach us that make a big difference in the play therapy process.
Our podcast host, Lisa Dion, LPC, RPT-S, is an innovative and inspiring teacher and pioneer in play therapy. She founder and President of the Synergetic Play Therapy Institute and the creator of Synergetic Play Therapy, a cutting-edge model of play therapy that bridges the gap between neuroscience and psychology. Lisa teaches and supervises all over the world, helping transform the lives of thousands of therapists and children. With these podcasts, she'll teach you practical ways to transform both you and the child clients you work with. These inspiring educational lessons are sure to leave you feeling more confident and excited for your next session!
Our podcast host, Lisa Dion, LPC, RPT-S, is an innovative and inspiring teacher and pioneer in play therapy. She founder and President of the Synergetic Play Therapy Institute and the creator of Synergetic Play Therapy, a cutting-edge model of play therapy that bridges the gap between neuroscience and psychology. Lisa teaches and supervises all over the world, helping transform the lives of thousands of therapists and children. With these podcasts, she'll teach you practical ways to transform both you and the child clients you work with. These inspiring educational lessons are sure to leave you feeling more confident and excited for your next session!
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Aug 12, 2025 • 42min
198. Wounded Healers in the Playroom: How Attachment Histories Shape Our Work
What happens when therapists bring their own attachment histories into the playroom—consciously or not? In this deeply validating and insightful conversation, Lisa welcomes back Dr. Clair Mellenthin—renowned play therapist, author, and professor—to unpack her groundbreaking dissertation research and explore how a therapist’s personal story shapes their clinical work, especially within family-based play therapy. Together, they explore: Why many play therapists are drawn to the work as “wounded healers” Research that debunks the myth of needing to be fully healed to help others How personal attachment wounds show up in the playroom—and why doing our own work matters The power of mentorship and community in creating earned security and ongoing healing How support systems help therapists feel seen, grounded, and more confident with families Common struggles therapists face when working with parents, especially with limited training Practical steps for building confidence through integration, connection, and focused learning Moving stories that show the healing ripple from therapist to family Whether you’re a student, seasoned therapist, or supervisor, this episode offers normalization, challenge, and inspiration—helping you reflect on your therapeutic presence, embrace your vulnerabilities, and cultivate authentic connection in the healing space.

Aug 5, 2025 • 24min
Special: Where Are We Now? Reflecting on the Evolution of Play Therapy
This episode originally aired in June 2023 when Synergetic Play Therapy turned 15 this year 🎉 (and was also Lisa’s birthday week! 🥳), which made it the perfect moment to pause and reflect on how far the field of play therapy has come—and where it might be headed next. In this celebratory episode, Lisa dives into the evolution of the mental health and play therapy fields—from early models focused on behavior change to today’s integrative approaches that honor the nervous system, the body, and the power of relationship. You’ll hear about the rise of neuroscience, Polyvagal Theory, interpersonal neurobiology, and the increasing recognition that you—the therapist—are the most important toy in the playroom. 💕 And of course, Lisa can’t help but look to the future, offering thoughts on what might be next for the field, including the emerging role of perception and the mind in the healing process. 🎧 Whether you’ve been tuning in since 2017 or just recently joined us, thank you. We’ve reached over a million downloads, and we’re so grateful you’re part of the journey.

Jul 29, 2025 • 48min
197. Why the Playroom Must Evolve: Embracing Digital Play Therapy & AI (Part 2)
In this powerful follow-up episode, Lisa reunites with psychologist, author, and digital play therapy pioneer Dr. Jessica Stone to explore the ever-evolving intersection of technology, artificial intelligence, and mental health. Together, they dive into why the playroom must evolve—offering a grounded, nonjudgmental look at how digital tools and AI are showing up in children's lives and what that means for us as therapists. Together they explore: Is digital play therapy the same as virtual play therapy? How do you ethically use tools like ChatGPT, story generators, or VR in the therapeutic process? And what deeper needs might children be trying to meet when they turn to technology? From theoretical foundations to real-life examples and practical strategies, Lisa and Dr. Stone address common clinician concerns—like fear of the unknown, resistance to change, or overwhelm—and reframe digital tools not as replacements for traditional play, but as powerful entry points for connection, healing, and expression. You’ll hear honest reflections, tips for engaging tech-wary caregivers, and new ways to bring congruence and confidence to your practice—whether you’re curious, cautious, or actively integrating technology into your sessions. 🎧 Bonus: This is Part 2 of Lisa and Dr. Stone’s conversation! Be sure to check out their earlier episode 84: Wrapping Our Minds Around Digital Play Therapy.

Jul 22, 2025 • 29min
Special: Little Questions, Big Insights: Answering Common Play Therapy Questions
In this latest episode, Lisa tackles three little, yet powerful questions that every play therapist faces at some point in their practice. These insightful answers will expand your approach and deepen your work with children. 🔹 What to do when you see your clients outside of a session? 🔹 How to navigate working with imaginary friends in therapy? 🔹 What to do when a child refuses to do their chores or other tasks they should be doing? These are just a few of the essential questions Lisa dives into, giving you practical answers that can make a world of difference in your play therapy work. 🎧 Don't miss part 1 of this series (Episode #57), where Lisa answers even more common "little questions" such as: What to do with broken toys The role of food in the playroom How to handle lying in the playroom What to do when a child tries to take a toy home Get answers to the questions you might not have learned in graduate school but will absolutely need in your play therapy practice. Original Air Date: June 24, 2021 *** 💜 Learn More About Synergetic Play Therapy: 👉 Visit our website for courses, resources, and certification opportunities – www.synergeticplaytherapy.com 📚 Explore Our Books: Aggression in Play Therapy – www.synergeticplaytherapy.com/books 🎧 Listen to Our Podcast: Lessons from the Playroom – www.synergeticplaytherapy.com/lessons-from-the-playroom/ ✨ SPT Foundation: Learn more about it's mission, team and initiatives: 👉 https://synergeticplaytherapy.com/spt-foundation/ 🔗 Connect with Us on Social Media: Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/synergeticplaytherapy/ Like our Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/SynergeticPlayTherapyInstitute

Jul 15, 2025 • 44min
196. Dissociation Reimagined: Honoring the Inner World of Therapist and Child
In this powerful and deeply human episode, Lisa is joined by two internationally recognized leaders in the field of complex trauma and dissociation—Ana Gómez and Jill Hosey—for a heartfelt conversation about their monumental new release: The Handbook of Complex Trauma and Dissociation in Children. More than just a book discussion, this episode offers a reverence-based reframe of dissociation—not as pathology, but as a brilliant, adaptive survival strategy used by children navigating overwhelming experiences. Ana and Jill share their personal insights from editing this groundbreaking 900+ page volume, which weaves together theory, research, clinical case work, and embodied practices from over 60 contributors. Together, they explore the profound responsibility therapists carry—not only to understand dissociation in their clients but to honor how it arises in their own inner worlds. You’ll hear candid reflections on what it means to be a regulated presence in the therapy room, how fear of dissociation may show up in clinicians, and how co-regulation becomes the foundation for relational healing. Whether you’re just beginning to explore the topic of dissociation or are a seasoned trauma therapist, this episode invites you to shift from fear to curiosity—from fragmentation to integration. 💡 Key Topics Include: Why The Handbook is the first of its kind in the field Dissociation as a creative, protective superpower Therapist nervous system responses and the importance of co-regulation Misdiagnosis, marginalization, and what happens when dissociation is misunderstood The emotional labor of this work—for both therapist and client A call to action for deeper training, relational attunement, and self-reflection 📘 The Handbook of Complex Trauma and Dissociation in Children is available through Routledge, Amazon, Caversham Booksellers (Canada), and other major online retailers.

Jul 8, 2025 • 48min
Special: Understanding Sexualized Play in Therapy with Dr. Jodi Mullen
One of the most highly requested topics in play therapy is finally here—understanding sexualized play in the playroom. In this deeply insightful episode, Lisa Dion is joined by Dr. Jodi Mullen, a leading expert in play therapy and child trauma, to explore what it means when sexualized play emerges in sessions. 🔹 How to trust your felt sense as a clinician when sexualized play appears 🔹 Identifying red flags and themes that may indicate sexual trauma 🔹 Understanding transference and countertransference as clinical clues 🔹 The key differences between medical trauma vs. sexualized trauma 🔹 How aggression presents in children with sexual trauma and what it means 🔹 How to talk to parents and caregivers when trauma or abuse is suspected 🔹 The single most important thing we can do for children when justice isn’t possible Dr. Jodi Mullen shares real-life examples, clinical insights, and powerful strategies to help play therapists feel more prepared and confident when working with children who have been sexually abused or demonstrate sexualized play. ✨ This episode is a must-listen for any therapist navigating this complex and sensitive work. Original Air Date: August 29, 2023 *** 💜 Learn More About Synergetic Play Therapy: 👉 Visit our website for courses, resources, and certification opportunities – www.synergeticplaytherapy.com 📚 Explore Our Books: Aggression in Play Therapy – www.synergeticplaytherapy.com/books 🎧 Listen to Our Podcast: Lessons from the Playroom – www.synergeticplaytherapy.com/lessons-from-the-playroom/ ✨ SPT Foundation: Learn more about it's mission, team and initiatives: 👉 https://synergeticplaytherapy.com/spt-foundation/ 🔗 Connect with Us on Social Media: Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/synergeticplaytherapy/ Like our Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/SynergeticPlayTherapyInstitute

Jul 1, 2025 • 42min
195. When the Body Remembers: Psychosensory Healing, Play Therapy & the Wisdom Within with Kim Barthel
She’s back—and the energy in the room just elevated. In one of the most moving and illuminating episodes to date, Lisa Dion reunites with internationally renowned occupational therapist, author, and teacher Kim Barthel—one of the most beloved guests in the podcast’s history. Together, they take us deep into the world of psycho-sensory interventions, a term Kim coined decades ago during a pivotal moment that forever changed her clinical approach. Through a powerful real-life case study, this conversation explores how the body holds the story of trauma, how sensation can unlock memory, and why true healing happens when we integrate the mind, body, and play. Through their dual lenses—Lisa’s Synergetic Play Therapy perspective and Kim’s expertise in sensory integration, posture, and neurobiology—they reflect on working together with a young client whose developmental trauma was revealed not only through his play, but through his body, his relationships, and the clinician’s own internal experience. You’ll also hear about Kim’s early work with children on the streets of Winnipeg, the origin of psycho-sensory work, and how her interdisciplinary lens continues to evolve after 40+ years of practice. This episode will invite you to: Track what the body is telling you through posture, breath, and muscle tone See play as only one part of the unfolding story—because the story lives in the body Tune into the relational field and your own body as a source of insight Slow down and meet your clients where they are developmentally and neurologically Embrace an embodied approach to healing that honors both the child’s and the therapist’s nervous systems ✨ Whether you’re a seasoned play therapist, an OT, or simply curious about trauma-informed care, this conversation will expand your lens, deepen your embodiment, and remind you that healing isn’t something we do to a child—it’s something that unfolds when we trust the wisdom of the body. Take a breath, drop into your own body, and press play. You won’t want to miss this one.

Jun 24, 2025 • 28min
Special: The 3 Types of Relationships in Play Therapy with Parents & Caregivers
What makes working with parents and caregivers feel smooth—or challenging—in play therapy? In this insightful episode, Lisa Dion explores three distinct types of relationships that shape our interactions with parents and caregivers in the therapeutic process. Understanding these dynamics can transform your approach, helping you create deeper, more conscious relationships that honor both you as a therapist and the parents you support. 🔹 Discover the three types of relationships that influence every interaction in and beyond the playroom 🔹 Learn how these relationship dynamics shape your work with parents and caregivers 🔹 Uncover why certain parent-therapist relationships feel more challenging than others 🔹 Find out how to create a space where parents feel safe to show up authentically 🔹 Explore how these relationships impact your nervous system—and what you can do to stay regulated By recognizing and navigating these relationship patterns, you’ll develop a new level of connection and attunement in your work with parents and caregivers. 🌟 Tune in to shift your perspective and create stronger, more supportive therapeutic relationships! Original Air Date: January 3, 2023 *** 💜 Learn More About Synergetic Play Therapy: 👉 Visit our website for courses, resources, and certification opportunities – www.synergeticplaytherapy.com 📚 Explore Our Books: Aggression in Play Therapy – www.synergeticplaytherapy.com/books 🎧 Listen to Our Podcast: Lessons from the Playroom – www.synergeticplaytherapy.com/lessons-from-the-playroom/ ✨ SPT Foundation: Learn more about it's mission, team and initiatives: 👉 https://synergeticplaytherapy.com/spt-foundation/ 🔗 Connect with Us on Social Media: Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/synergeticplaytherapy/ Like our Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/SynergeticPlayTherapyInstitute

Jun 17, 2025 • 44min
194. Introducing Family Constellation Work: A Systemic Lens for Play Therapists
🎙️ She’s back! In her fourth appearance, Lisa welcomes the deeply loved and returning guest Mili Sarmiento Shoemaker—bilingual therapist, teacher, and Certified Synergetic Play Therapy Supervisor and Trainer—to introduce a brand-new topic to the podcast: Family Constellation Work. Rooted in systemic and ancestral wisdom, this conversation explores how children’s symptoms often reflect unresolved family dynamics, not just their own inner world. Together, Mili and Lisa unpack key principles from Family Constellation theory—including the Orders of Love—and how therapists can begin using a systemic lens in the playroom, even without formal training. In this expansive and soulful episode, you’ll discover: What Family Constellation Work is and why it matters in therapy How children may carry or express unresolved intergenerational trauma The three core Orders of Love (Belonging, Hierarchy, and Balance of Giving & Taking) How imbalance in these orders can result in symptoms like resentment, overwhelm, or soul entanglements The difference between taking and receiving—and why this matters in the therapy room How to begin integrating a systemic lens into your practice, even without formal training ✨ Whether you’re new to this work or looking to deepen your lens, this episode is filled with insight, heart, and transformative “aha” moments. 🎧 Also check out Mili’s past episodes: When the Aggressor is You: Therapist Activation in the Playroom Attachment to Self: The Cornerstone of Healing Why Therapists Attract the Clients That They Do A beautiful and eye-opening conversation you won’t want to miss 💖

Jun 10, 2025 • 38min
Special: Reflective & Relational Play Therapy Supervision: A Deep Dive with Lisa Dion & Guests
What makes play therapy supervision truly effective? In this first-ever Lessons from the Playroom episode on supervision, Lisa Dion is joined by Polly Douglass, Kim Buller, and Khris Rolfe—three extraordinary play therapists and top supervisors at the Synergetic Play Therapy Institute. Together, they explore the power of reflective and relational supervision and how it transforms both supervisees and their clients. Whether you're currently in supervision or serving as a supervisor, this episode will offer invaluable insights into: 🔹 What it means to be reflective and relational in supervision 🔹 How to build a supervisor-supervisee relationship that fosters growth and trust 🔹 The role of the supervisor as an external regulator for the supervisee 🔹 How to help supervisees become more embodied in their work as play therapists 🔹 Ways to offer supervision that empowers therapists to trust themselves This conversation weaves together a beautiful tapestry of reflection, relationship, and emotional attunement—helping play therapists feel their clients’ experiences rather than just think about them. 🌟 Tune in and discover how to create a deeply supportive and transformational supervision experience! Original Air Date: April 25, 2023 *** 💜 Learn More About Synergetic Play Therapy: 👉 Visit our website for courses, resources, and certification opportunities – www.synergeticplaytherapy.com 📚 Explore Our Books: Aggression in Play Therapy – www.synergeticplaytherapy.com/books 🎧 Listen to Our Podcast: Lessons from the Playroom – www.synergeticplaytherapy.com/lessons-from-the-playroom/ ✨ SPT Foundation: Learn more about it's mission, team and initiatives: 👉 https://synergeticplaytherapy.com/spt-foundation/ 🔗 Connect with Us on Social Media: Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/synergeticplaytherapy/ Like our Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/SynergeticPlayTherapyInstitute