
Purely IFS with Emma and Gayle
Purely IFS is for you if you are a mental health professional who is transitioning to using the Internal Family Systems model with clients. Hosted by IFS psychotherapists Gayle Williamson and Emma Redfern, this show aims to support IFS beginners by offering clarity and discussion on the various aspects of the model and the key skills. We're also hoping that you'll get many useful additions to your IFS vocabulary and that our podcast will keep you engaged with learning this amazing approach.We put the emphasis on working as a 'pure' IFS therapist because IFS is a complete approach - it gives you just about everything you would ever need as a therapist. Combining it with other approaches not only makes it harder for beginners to master but dilutes the transformational power of what IFS offers. Join us each episode for stimulating and educational conversations.
Latest episodes

Mar 7, 2024 • 32min
Making the most of IFS supervision
Send us a textIn today's episode, we're hoping to inspire therapists to embrace the variety that IFS brings to supervision. We cover a lot, including:· Examples of individual and group IFS supervision· Differentiating the role of the IFSI Approved Clinical Consultant and IFS supervision· The importance of regular supervision, e.g. when consciously transitioning to IFS· The different focus points/facets of IFS supervision· Working with Figuring Out parts and Drama Triangle partsYou'll find details of the books and papers we make reference to in the show below, as well as other useful resources:Emma's books: Internal Family Systems Therapy: Supervision and Consultation - 1st Ed (routledge.com);Transitioning to Internal Family Systems Therapy: A companion for therapists and practitioners (2023, Routledge)- Aisling McMahon, Ciaran Jennings & Gillian O’Brien (2022) A naturalistic, observational study of the Seven-Eyed model of supervision, The Clinical Supervisor, 41:1, 47-69, DOI: 10.1080/07325223.2021.2022060 To link to this article: https://doi.org/10.1080/07325223.2021.2022060Upcoming CPD opportunity: Emma is presenting a series of workshops on the Drama Triangle on the online training platform, Online Events. Find out more information at Onlinevents: Workshops with Emma Redfern | EventbriteEmma E Redfern MBACP (Snr Accred) initially trained in humanistic integrative psychotherapy. Emma is a certified IFS psychotherapist as well as approved IFS clinical consultant. She edited Internal Family Systems Therapy: supervision and consultation (2022, Routledge) and authored Transitioning to Internal Family Systems Therapy: A companion for therapists and practitioners (2023, Routledge). Her most recent publication, co-edited with Helen Foot, is Freeing Self: IFS Beyond the Therapy Room (2023) .See www.emmaredfern.co.uk for details of workshops and articles as well as books. You can also follow Emma on Linked In.Gayle Williamson (MIACP) initially trained in humanistic integrative psychotherapy. She took one of the alternative routes to IFS training now available, through IFSCA and the Adler College, Canada. She works fulltime as a pure-IFS psychotherapist and also writes widely on mental health. Her most recent article 'The Myth of Mental Illness' is published in the latest IAHIP professional journal. Gayle runs small-group, online trainings and skills workshops for IFS beginners as well as group supervision. She also edited Emma's book, Transitioning to Internal Family Systems Therapy: A companion for therapists and practitioners. See www.ferneytherapy.ie for further info, resources and Gayle's articles.

Feb 7, 2024 • 21min
Updating part 2: case example
Therapists delve into an advanced case example, focusing on Hazel, Coco, and Storeen. They discuss the importance of differentiating between Self and parts, recognizing empathy vs. compassion, and being directive. The narrative highlights the significance of patience, persistence, and understanding body symptoms in therapy progress.

Jan 15, 2024 • 26min
Updating and meeting Self - part 1
In this episode, the podcast delves into the complexities of updating and connecting the self with internal parts in therapy. They explore differentiating the self from parts, past from present, and the client's self from abusers. The focus is on transforming protectors and facilitating access to exiles, emphasizing safety, resources, and potential for change. The episode also highlights the importance of connecting with the inner self, navigating internal protectors and decision-making, and establishing trust and differentiation in Internal Family Systems therapy.

Dec 22, 2023 • 32min
Taking the leap with direct access
Send us a textTRIGGER WARNING: We discuss how to talk to suicidal parts from around the 24-minute mark, but we don't go into any detail about a particular experience of suicide. On today's show, we discuss the vital skill of direct access, and in particular, what we call broadcast direct access. It's an aspect of direct access that doesn't get much talked about but is so valuable to learn. Essentially it's when a therapist speaks directly to the client's system as a whole or to a group of protectors, as opposed to talking to one protector at a time. Gayle shares two client cases to give some of the language around using broadcast direct access; and Emma then offers valuable examples of how to negotiate with a protector urging suicide using explicit direct access.* Client permission has been obtained for the case material shared.Emma E Redfern MBACP (Snr Accred) initially trained in humanistic integrative psychotherapy. Emma is a certified IFS psychotherapist as well as approved IFS clinical consultant. She edited Internal Family Systems Therapy: supervision and consultation (2022, Routledge) and authored Transitioning to Internal Family Systems Therapy: A companion for therapists and practitioners (2023, Routledge). Her most recent publication, co-edited with Helen Foot, is Freeing Self: IFS Beyond the Therapy Room (2023) .See www.emmaredfern.co.uk for details of workshops and articles as well as books. You can also follow Emma on Linked In.Gayle Williamson (MIACP) initially trained in humanistic integrative psychotherapy. She took one of the alternative routes to IFS training now available, through IFSCA and the Adler College, Canada. She works fulltime as a pure-IFS psychotherapist and also writes widely on mental health. Her most recent article 'The Myth of Mental Illness' is published in the latest IAHIP professional journal. Gayle runs small-group, online trainings and skills workshops for IFS beginners as well as group supervision. She also edited Emma's book, Transitioning to Internal Family Systems Therapy: A companion for therapists and practitioners. See www.ferneytherapy.ie for further info, resources and Gayle's articles.

Nov 27, 2023 • 22min
Mastering IFS as a complete model
Send us a textIn this our first episode, we talk about why we wanted to do this podcast, why we think IFS is best used without integrating other approaches and explore what is meant by saying that IFS is a complete model. We also discuss: the mixed messaging about how IFS should be used.the benefits of knowing that IFS has just about everything you would need as a therapist or IFS practitioner.what is and isn't 'pure' IFSthe need to temper expectations regarding how many of the healing steps we can use with certain clients, such as those with complex trauma.Emma E Redfern MBACP (Snr Accred) initially trained in humanistic integrative psychotherapy. Emma is a certified IFS psychotherapist as well as approved IFS clinical consultant. She edited Internal Family Systems Therapy: supervision and consultation (2022, Routledge) and authored Transitioning to Internal Family Systems Therapy: A companion for therapists and practitioners (2023, Routledge). Her most recent publication, co-edited with Helen Foot, is Freeing Self: IFS Beyond the Therapy Room (2023) .See www.emmaredfern.co.uk for details of workshops and articles as well as books. You can also follow Emma on Linked In.Gayle Williamson (MIACP) initially trained in humanistic integrative psychotherapy. She took one of the alternative routes to IFS training now available, through IFSCA and the Adler College, Canada. She works fulltime as a pure-IFS psychotherapist and also writes widely on mental health. Her most recent article 'The Myth of Mental Illness' is published in the latest IAHIP professional journal. Gayle runs small-group, online trainings and skills workshops for IFS beginners as well as group supervision. She also edited Emma's book, Transitioning to Internal Family Systems Therapy: A companion for therapists and practitioners. See www.ferneytherapy.ie for further info, resources and Gayle's articles.