Unapologetic: The Third Narrative

With Amira and Ibrahim
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Jan 25, 2026 • 1h 17min

Objection Overruled

Laws are meant to protect people, maintain order, and define what’s fair. But what happens when the law is applied only to some, while denying rights to others?For Palestinian citizens of Israel, this is a daily reality. Laws meant to safeguard freedom of speech, movement, and expression are often used as tools of control, punishment, and exclusion, rights that exist on paper but are routinely denied in practice.In this episode, we sit with Hadeel Abu Salih, a human rights lawyer and activist at ⁠Adalah⁠, to examine how Israeli law functions in practice for Palestinians, and how repression has sharply escalated since October 2023. Drawing on hundreds of cases, Hadeel exposes a legal system where speech can be criminalized before it’s even expressed, students and academics are disciplined for political thought, and prolonged detention without trial has become routine. Alongside this, the hosts reflect on some of the fears and reservations they carry about being public in this moment.We trace the continuity from the policies following May 2021 to the sweeping crackdown after October 7, revealing how emergency measures have solidified into permanent governance. Hadeel also unpacks how apartheid legislation is deepening, not only through arrests and indictments, but through laws that threaten family life, movement, and collective presence.This episode explores law as lived experience, fear, endurance, and the cost of speaking out, and what it means to keep resisting from inside the courtroom.Be sure to explore Adalah’s website to read reports, review cases, listen to their podcast, and of course, support their work by donating here.Disclaimer: This episode was recorded on November 25, 2025. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. Please note that engagement with our guests does not imply endorsement, and the views expressed by our guests do not necessarily represent our beliefs, either on or off our platform. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future.Credits​Sponsored by: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠B8 of Hope⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with the support of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Albi World⁠⁠⁠⁠​Hosts / Executive Producers: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amira Mohammed⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ibrahim Abu Ahmad⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠​Associate Producer / Supervising Editor / Audio Mix: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Evelyn Uzan⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠​Original Music: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Layan Hawila⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ – Support her journey as a music therapy student at Berklee​Filming & Editing: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Nissan Film Production⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠​Branding: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sophie Cooke⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠​Animation: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Santiago Gomez⁠
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Jan 18, 2026 • 1h 36min

Palestinian Poetic Justice

For more than 26 years, Tamer Nafar has bent language into a weapon, a mirror, and the airplane’s black box.In his words: "The world is a crashing plane. I'm not Captain Sully; I cannot save the day. I'm that black box. I'm nothing but that black box. I document, eject seat, then cash out."From the birth of Palestinian hip-hop to today, his voice has never separated art from truth or culture from resistance.In this episode, we sit with Tamer at a pivotal moment. As he prepares to release his first English-language album, In the Name of the Father, the Imam and John Lennon (out January 20), and embarks on a European tour starting January 26, he reflects on creation under pressure, the cost of speaking clearly, and why storytelling matters when everything feels at stake.Beyond music, Tamer the activist uses his platform to raise funds for organizations like Clean Shelter and Resolute RGL. He continues to write, challenge, and provoke through his political op-eds, and he is expanding his literary world with upcoming novels 3Gs and 2 ATM’s.Hip‑hop taught him to be a fireman in a burning world, not because he can stop the flames, but because turning away would be to burn too.Links to everything else Tamer:Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, DAM Facebook, DAM Instagram, DAM YouTube, Junction 48Artists mentioned in episode:Suhel Nafar⁠, ⁠Djamil⁠, Maysa Daw,⁠ Rasha Nahas, MC Abdul, Noel Kharman, Nasir Al Bashir, Mahmoud JrereSongs referenced:Rock it like a Palestinian, Change the World For me, The Beat Never Goes Off, JASADIK-HOM, Min Irhabi, Johnnie Mashi, SuperLancer, #Who_You_R, Go There, Al Fashi MashiDisclaimer: This episode was recorded on December 22, 2025. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. Please note that engagement with our guests does not imply endorsement, and the views expressed by our guests do not necessarily represent our beliefs, either on or off our platform. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future.Credits​Sponsored by: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Albi World⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠​Hosts / Executive Producers: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amira Mohammed⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ibrahim Abu Ahmad⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠​Associate Producer / Supervising Editor / Audio Mix: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Evelyn Uzan⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠​Original Music: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Layan Hawila⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ – Support her journey as a music therapy student at Berklee​Filming & Editing: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Nissan Film Production⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠​Branding: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sophie Cooke⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠​Animation: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Santiago Gomez
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Jan 11, 2026 • 1h 6min

Let's Reflect

In this episode, we strip things back and sit down for an honest one-on-one. Amira and Ibrahim reflect on Season 2 so far—what it’s stirred up, what they’ve learned, and how the conversations are evolving. They unpack newly introduced terminology, respond to audience feedback, and unpack their personal feelings. Be sure to listen until the end of the episode, where we introduce HUMAN EYES - a project in collaboration with Toronto-based artist, Hieram. All proceeds from the sale of these one-of-a-kind hand-painted jackets will go directly to a family in Gaza and Clean Shelter. Join us for this much-needed pause: a thoughtful, grounding conversation about where we’ve been and where we’re headed.Follow us on Instagram: @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠thirdnarrative⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to us on Patreon: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon.com/ThirdNarrative⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠For more info on UTTN, visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠uttn.net⁠⁠⁠⁠ or our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Linktree⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Disclaimer: This episode was recorded on November 9, 2025. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. Please note that engagement with our guests does not imply endorsement, and the views expressed by our guests do not necessarily represent our beliefs, either on or off our platform. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future.Credits​Sponsored by: ⁠⁠⁠⁠B8 of Hope⁠⁠⁠⁠ with the support of ⁠⁠⁠⁠Albi World⁠⁠⁠⁠​Hosts / Executive Producers: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Amira Mohammed⁠⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠⁠Ibrahim Abu Ahmad⁠⁠⁠⁠​Associate Producer / Supervising Editor: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Evelyn Uzan⁠⁠⁠⁠​Original Music: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Layan Hawila⁠⁠⁠⁠ – Support her journey as a music therapy student at Berklee​Filming & Editing: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Nissan Film Production⁠⁠⁠⁠​Branding: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Sophie Cooke⁠⁠⁠⁠​Animation: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Santiago Gomez
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Dec 21, 2025 • 1h 28min

From Grassroots to Purple Skies

In Episode 8, we sit down with Sally Abed — socialist organizer, new mother, and the first Palestinian woman to lead a joint Jewish-Arab slate and be elected to Haifa’s municipal council with Haifa Majority. As a leader in the purple grassroots movement, Standing Together, she works to turn joint struggle into political impact.Sally reflects on her path from neighborhood activism to municipal leadership, the values that guide her work, and the impact of boycotting, including the challenges of being targeted by it.Tune into her episode and be sure to check out the links below:Haifa MajorityStanding TogetherThe Long Answer PodcastFollow us on Instagram: @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠thirdnarrative⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to us on Patreon: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon.com/ThirdNarrative⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠For more info on UTTN, visit ⁠⁠⁠uttn.net⁠⁠⁠ or our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Linktree⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Disclaimer: This episode was recorded on October 27, 2025. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. Please note that engagement with our guests does not imply endorsement, and the views expressed by our guests do not necessarily represent our beliefs, either on or off our platform. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future.Credits​Sponsored by: ⁠⁠⁠B8 of Hope⁠⁠⁠ with the support of ⁠⁠⁠Albi World⁠⁠⁠​Hosts / Executive Producers: ⁠⁠⁠Amira Mohammed⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠Ibrahim Abu Ahmad⁠⁠⁠​Associate Producer / Supervising Editor: ⁠⁠⁠Evelyn Uzan⁠⁠⁠​Original Music: ⁠⁠⁠Layan Hawila⁠⁠⁠ – Support her journey as a music therapy student at Berklee​Filming & Editing: ⁠⁠⁠Nissan Film Production⁠⁠⁠​Branding: ⁠⁠⁠Sophie Cooke⁠⁠⁠​Animation: ⁠⁠⁠Santiago Gomez
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Dec 14, 2025 • 1h 56min

Changing the Mindset, One Post At a Time

Eran Nissan calls himself “a juggler,” and for good reason. He moves between multiple initiatives focused on peace, reconciliation, and co-resistance between Israelis and Palestinians, all while leading Mehazkim as its CEO.Mehazkim — whose name in Hebrew means “to strengthen” or “to empower” — is a left-wing digital movement advancing equality, ending the occupation, defending democracy and human rights, and promoting women’s and LGBTQ+ rights and climate justice. Through strategic campaigns, it gives ordinary citizens the tools to create meaningful social and political impact.As a new father and strategist for societal transformation, Eran believes real progress begins from within. He explains how shifting the mindset of individuals shapes their behaviors, which influences policies and ultimately reshapes reality. In this conversation, he shares stories of personal growth, societal evolution, and the vision of a future where equality, freedom, and justice are not just ideals, but lived experiences.Links mentioned in episode:MehazkimPhoenix FrameworkViral Interview (FCK BNGVR)Follow us on Instagram: @⁠⁠⁠⁠thirdnarrative⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to us on Patreon: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon.com/ThirdNarrative⁠ ⁠⁠⁠For more info on UTTN, visit ⁠⁠uttn.net⁠⁠ or our ⁠⁠⁠⁠Linktree⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Disclaimer: This episode was recorded on September 24, 2025. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. Please note that engagement with our guests does not imply endorsement, and the views expressed by our guests do not necessarily represent our beliefs, either on or off our platform. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future.Credits​Sponsored by: ⁠⁠B8 of Hope⁠⁠ with the support of ⁠⁠Albi World⁠⁠​Hosts / Executive Producers: ⁠⁠Amira Mohammed⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠Ibrahim Abu Ahmad⁠⁠​Associate Producer / Supervising Editor: ⁠⁠Evelyn Uzan⁠⁠​Original Music: ⁠⁠Layan Hawila⁠⁠ – Support her journey as a music therapy student at Berklee​Filming & Editing: ⁠⁠Nissan Film Production⁠⁠​Branding: ⁠⁠Sophie Cooke⁠⁠​Animation: ⁠⁠Santiago Gomez
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Nov 23, 2025 • 1h 8min

Existence is Resistance

In this powerful episode, we sit down with Nimala Kharoufeh— an inspirational teacher, women's circle trainer, group facilitator, and the first Samara Yoga teacher in the Middle East. She holds over 14 accredited certificates in self-development and well-being. With 15 years of experience in local and international peacebuilding organizations, she specializes in youth and women’s development, leadership, communication, and team building. As the director of the Palestinian Freedom School, and founder of the soon-to-open Sahwa Healing Center in Beit Jala, Nimala holds true to the symbolism of her name. Inside the Combatants for Peace office, Nimala reflects on what it means to grow up in a family split by IDs, to navigate a geography that keeps shrinking, and to carry the emotional weight of simply existing as a Palestinian. Yet she brings something rare: a pathway toward healing, inner awakening, and the reclamation of humanity in a world that tries to erase it.With striking vulnerability, she speaks about trauma, womanhood, community care, and the revolutionary choice to step out of victimhood and into responsibility. This same vision led her to create the Sahwa Healing Center— a community-rooted space now in its final stages of becoming a reality, where Palestinians will have access to grounding practices like yoga, meditation, women’s circles, trauma-informed healing, and much more. With your support, the doors of this space can open sooner rather than later, bringing healing and connection to a community that needs it.If you’ve ever wondered what steadfastness looks like, what healing inside occupation feels like, or what it takes to keep showing up when everything around you is falling apart—this episode is for you.Listen, share, and—if you’re able—consider donating to help bring the Sahwa Healing Center to life. Your support directly fuels the mental, emotional, spiritual, and physical well-being of Palestinians.Disclaimer: This episode was recorded on September 28th, 2025. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. Please note that engagement with our guests does not imply endorsement, and the views expressed by our guests do not necessarily represent our beliefs, either on or off our platform. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future.Credits​Sponsored by: ⁠⁠⁠B8 of Hope⁠⁠⁠ with the support of ⁠⁠⁠Albi World⁠⁠⁠​Hosts / Executive Producers: ⁠⁠⁠Amira Mohammed⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠Ibrahim Abu Ahmad⁠⁠⁠​Associate Producer / Supervising Editor: ⁠⁠⁠Evelyn Uzan⁠⁠⁠​Original Music: ⁠⁠⁠Layan Hawila⁠⁠⁠ – Support her journey as a music therapy student at Berklee​Filming & Editing: ⁠⁠⁠Nissan Film Production⁠⁠⁠​Branding: ⁠⁠⁠Sophie Cooke⁠⁠⁠​Animation: ⁠⁠⁠Santiago Gomez
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Nov 16, 2025 • 1h 10min

Allow us to Demonstrate: Solidarity

In this episode, Danielle Cantor — co-mother and community organizer with Culture of Solidarity, a grassroots mutual aid collective — opens up on what it means to live and act from a place of radical care in unbearable times. Culture of Solidarity builds networks of care, resistance, and justice from the ground up, bringing together activists, organizers, and neighbors to meet urgent needs while confronting systems of inequality and oppression. Their work spans food justice, political education, anti-war organizing, and support for marginalized communities in their ongoing struggles for dignity and liberation. Through her honesty, weariness, and courage, Danielle reveals the emotional cost of organizing and the strength it takes to keep showing up.She reflects on how empathy can become an action, on what solidarity truly means when facing the realities of occupation, and on her community’s commitment to care that doesn’t shy away from uncomfortable truths. From standing in silent vigils for murdered children in Gaza, to leaving a beloved community space in the name of integrity, Danielle reminds us that compassion without accountability is hollow — and that a different kind of future is imperative, one rooted in justice, equality, and deep care.If you were inspired to join any of the activities mentioned in this episode, follow @twinkyyyy and @culture_of_solidarity on Instagram for updates! Disclaimer: This episode was recorded on August 25th, 2025. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. Please note that engagement with our guests does not imply endorsement, and the views expressed by our guests do not necessarily represent our beliefs, either on or off our platform. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future.Credits​Sponsored by: ⁠⁠B8 of Hope⁠⁠ with the support of ⁠⁠Albi World⁠⁠​Hosts / Executive Producers: ⁠⁠Amira Mohammed⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠Ibrahim Abu Ahmad⁠⁠​Associate Producer / Supervising Editor: ⁠⁠Evelyn Uzan⁠⁠​Original Music: ⁠⁠Layan Hawila⁠⁠ – Support her journey as a music therapy student at Berklee​Filming & Editing: ⁠⁠Nissan Film Production⁠⁠​Branding: ⁠⁠Sophie Cooke⁠⁠​Animation: ⁠⁠Santiago Gomez
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Oct 26, 2025 • 1h 12min

Harmony in the Midst of Chaos

From a young age, Mahdi refused to let judgment or limitation define him. Where others saw barriers, he instinctively looked for ways forward, creating solutions in the spaces that needed them most. That same determination drives his work today as Co-founder of Harmony Network, a platform uniting the Arab minority in Israel to cultivate a powerful community of skilled professionals. The network provides opportunities for the roughly 21% of the population who face systemic barriers. Mahdi’s proactive spirit also led to the launch of the Harmony SOS app, developed in a moment of urgency during the recent war with Iran to support and safeguard his community. In this conversation, Mahdi shares how he transformed criticism into determination, why he chose to channel his activism into building networks and tools, and what it means to take action differently in pursuit of long-term change. Tune in for more on his vision, persistence, and belief that strength grows through connection.Follow us on Instagram: @⁠⁠⁠thirdnarrative⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to us on Patreon: ⁠⁠⁠Patreon.com/ThirdNarrative⁠ ⁠⁠For more info on UTTN, visit ⁠⁠uttn.net⁠⁠ or our ⁠⁠⁠Linktree⁠⁠⁠⁠ Disclaimer: This episode was recorded on August 17th, 2025. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. Please note that engagement with our guests does not imply endorsement, and the views expressed by our guests do not necessarily represent our beliefs, either on or off our platform. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future.Credits​Sponsored by: ⁠B8 of Hope⁠ with the support of ⁠Albi World⁠​Hosts / Executive Producers: ⁠Amira Mohammed⁠ & ⁠Ibrahim Abu Ahmad⁠​Associate Producer / Supervising Editor: ⁠Evelyn Uzan⁠​Original Music: ⁠Layan Hawila⁠ – Support her journey as a music therapy student at Berklee​Filming & Editing: ⁠Nissan Film Production⁠​Branding: ⁠Sophie Cooke⁠​Animation: ⁠Santiago Gomez
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Oct 19, 2025 • 1h 23min

Palestine's Big Sis

From the hills of Dura to the heart of Gaza, Yara moves with conviction, turning care into action. Shaped by loss and love, she leads by example — creating spaces where children can learn, play, and hold onto hope amid uncertainty. As the Deputy Executive Director of The Gaza Children’s Village and a volunteer with Wallah We Can, she dedicates herself to nurturing the next generation and opening doors, no matter what new challenge presents itself. In this episode, Yara reflects on the moments that shaped her path and the revolution found in education, resilience, and a better future.Follow us on Instagram: @⁠⁠⁠⁠thirdnarrative⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to us on Patreon: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon.com/ThirdNarrative⁠ ⁠⁠⁠For more info on UTTN, visit ⁠⁠uttn.net⁠⁠ or our ⁠⁠⁠⁠Linktree⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Disclaimer: This episode was recorded on September 28th, 2025. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. Please note that engagement with our guests does not imply endorsement, and the views expressed by our guests do not necessarily represent our beliefs, either on or off our platform. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future.Credits​Hosts / Executive Producers: ⁠⁠Amira Mohammed⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠Ibrahim Abu Ahmad⁠⁠​Associate Producer / Supervising Editor: ⁠⁠Evelyn Uzan⁠⁠​Original Music: ⁠⁠Layan Hawila⁠⁠ – Support her journey as a music therapy student at Berklee​Filming & Editing: ⁠⁠Nissan Film Production⁠⁠​Branding: ⁠⁠Sophie Cooke⁠⁠​Animation: ⁠⁠Santiago Gomez
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Sep 28, 2025 • 1h 16min

From Louisiana to Jerusalem

In Episode 2, we sit down with Lana Ikelan—Co-Educational Director at Kids4Peace, alum of Tomorrow’s Women, and a speaker with Solutions Not Sides. Lana shares her experiences as an East Jerusalemite and reflects on her complex Palestinian identity, navigating a city full of unseen boundaries and hidden challenges. She opens up about her path into activism, the work she does to empower young people, and the bridges she’s building in a divided world. For in-depth information on the status of Jerusalem, the Reunification Law, and related legal, social, and municipal issues, you can visit a very thorough resource center here. Follow us on Instagram: @⁠⁠⁠thirdnarrative⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to us on Patreon: ⁠⁠⁠Patreon.com/ThirdNarrative⁠ ⁠⁠For more info on UTTN, visit ⁠⁠uttn.net⁠⁠ or our ⁠⁠⁠Linktree⁠⁠⁠⁠ Disclaimer: This episode was recorded on August 24th, 2025. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. Please note that engagement with our guests does not imply endorsement, and the views expressed by our guests do not necessarily represent our beliefs, either on or off our platform. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future.Credits​Sponsored by: ⁠B8 of Hope⁠ with the support of ⁠Albi World⁠​Hosts / Executive Producers: ⁠Amira Mohammed⁠ & ⁠Ibrahim Abu Ahmad⁠​Associate Producer / Supervising Editor: ⁠Evelyn Uzan⁠​Original Music: ⁠Layan Hawila⁠ – Support her journey as a music therapy student at Berklee​Filming & Editing: ⁠Nissan Film Production⁠​Branding: ⁠Sophie Cooke⁠​Animation: ⁠Santiago Gomez

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