Ibogaine Uncovered

Dr. Lola Ohonba is a clinical pharmacist, plant medicine pharmacology expert, counselor, professor, and lifelong herbalist. She is also the founder and CEO of WCI Health, where she consults with people who are seeking guidance in using cannabis, psychedelics, and other plant medicines as a part of their health and wellness journey. Dr. O is public speaker, the best-selling author of A Pharmacist’s Guide to Cannabis: Perspectives of a Non-Conformist Clinician and the host of the podcast, Let’s Talk Plant Medicine: Cannabis, Psychedelics and Pharmaceutics. What We Discuss What makes Dr. O a “non-conformist” clinician How Dr. O became interested in the medicinal qualities of cannabis (and later psychedelics) Growing up with plant medicine as the norm as an Indigenous herbalist of the Yoruba people of West Africa How Dr. O’s experience as a counselor lends itself to her work as a pharmacist and consultant The notion of “plants over pills,” and why it’s an oversimplification Harm Reduction: Comparing ibogaine to conventional pharmaceuticals Voacanga africana: An important relative of Tabernanthe iboga Why we can’t treat ibogaine like other plant and fungi medicines The role of synthetic ibogaine PsychEntheo, Dr. O’s new consulting platformWhy It’s ImportantDr. Lola Ohonba brings a unique blend of scientific expertise and Indigenous wisdom to the conversation about ibogaine and psychedelics. As a clinical pharmacist and lifelong herbalist from the Yoruba people of West Africa, Dr. O’s insights bridge the gap between conventional pharmaceuticals and traditional plant medicine. Her non-conformist approach challenges mainstream perspectives, offering valuable reflections on harm reduction, the complexities of ibogaine, and the future of psychedelic medicine. Relevant Links WCI Health website PsychEntheo Health (Dr. O’s new platform) Let’s Talk Plant Medicine Podcast Dr. Lola Ohonba on LinkedIn WCI Health on Instagram WCI Health LinkTree

Dr. Joseph Barsuglia, a clinical and research psychologist and an initiate of Bwiti, shares insights on the healing powers of ibogaine and 5-MeO-DMT. He discusses how ibogaine can access buried childhood trauma and its transformative potential in mental health. With a unique blend of spiritual and clinical perspectives, he also explores the need to merge indigenous wisdom with modern medicine in psychedelic therapy. Additionally, he reflects on reconciling his Christian past with his Bwiti present, advocating for deeper understanding in trauma healing.

William Leonard Pickard is a former research associate in neurobiology at Harvard Medical School, Harvard fellow in drug policy at the Harvard Kennedy School of Government, and Deputy Director of the Drug Policy Analysis Program at UCLA. His 1996 prediction of the fentanyl epidemic was published by RAND in The Future of Fentanyl and Other Synthetic Opioids. Also known as the Acid King, Pickard was the central figure in the largest LSD manufacturing case in history. Manufacturing tens of millions of doses with a partner, at its height, Pickard’s lab produced up to a kilogram of LSD approximately every five weeks. He was eventually found guilty at trial of conspiring to manufacture, distribute, and dispense ten grams or more of a mixture or substance containing a detectable amount of lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD) and received two life sentences.On July 27, 2020, Pickard was granted compassionate release from federal prison 20 years into his sentence. In this episode, Beond co-founder Talia Eisenberg joins Ibogaine Uncovered as co-host.What We Discuss Leonard’s introduction to psychedelics The motivation behind manufacturing such vast amounts of LSD A different kind of trip: what life in a maximum security prison was like How Leonard’s time as an underground chemist influences his current work Predicting the fentanyl crisis before it began The state of ibogaine treatment: Leonard’s ongoing research Challenges facing the psychedelic treatment industryWhy It’s ImportantWilliam Leonard Pickard’s influence on the current psychedelic landscape cannot be overstated. His commitment to cognitive liberty is balanced with a conservative approach towards how psychedelics including ibogaine should be regulated and consumed. His life story encapsulates America’s fraught relationship with drugs, from his 1996 prediction of the fentanyl crisis, to serving 20 years in a maximum security prison for conspiring to manufacture LSD. This storied background lends to unparalleled insights on the use of psychedelics, and informs his ongoing research of ibogaine treatment centers and retreats.Relevant Links William Leonard Pickard’s Bio The “acid king” prognosticates: 5 Questions for William Leonard Pickard (The Microdose) The Future of Fentanyl and Other Synthetic Opioids (2019 paper referencing Pickard’s work) The Acid King (Rolling Stone) DEA news release: Conviction for largest LSD lab seizure in history (2003) DEA news release: Pickard And Apperson Sentenced On LSD Charges (2003) Leonard’s book, The Rose of Paracelsus

Lori Losch, a certified addiction recovery and psychedelic integration coach, shares her journey from real estate to wellness advocate. She discusses the transformative power of ibogaine, emphasizing its role in her own healing. Lori addresses crucial steps for preparing for psychedelic experiences and debunks misconceptions around their use in addiction recovery. She highlights how coaching can reshape self-perception and aid in overcoming issues like bulimia, while guiding clients to find freedom and joy in their lives.

Identical twin sisters Cipriana Quann and TK Wonder have been using their platforms to speak on diversity, inclusivity, and the power of sisterhood for over a decade. Hosts of the Chew on Something podcast, Cipriana and TK are also part of Urban Bush Babes, a lifestyle website dedicated to supporting, encouraging and highlighting the multifaceted lives of women of color. While Cipriana is a former Vogue writer, TK Wonder is a rapper and singer who has opened for artists like Nas and Afrika Bambaataa. Together they have been featured in commercials and campaigns for Fendi, Valentino, Tiffany Co., and Sephora, just to name a few; and are the first two Black American sisters to be on the cover of Harper's Bazaar Netherlands.As advocates for survivors of sexual, physical, and mental childhood abuse, Cipriana and TK have been very open with their audiences about their shared experience, and the health issues that stemmed from their trauma. Having used sugar as a way to cope, they have rewritten their relationships with food and health. Ibogaine has also been a valuable part of their healing journeys, together and individually. What We Discuss Life as identical twins: similarities, differences, and how Cipriana and TK influence each other Transparency and authenticity: how Cipriana and TK decide what to share with their audience when it comes to trauma and healing What informed Cipriana and TK’s perspective of psychedelics before being introduced to them as a healing modality How psychedelics are perceived in the Black community How people in the psychedelic realm can work to ensure people of color not only have access to but are an active part of building the environment within which psychedelics are more widely available How they came to realize it was time to implement lifestyle changes around food How ibogaine has impacted TK’s relationship with sugar Loving nudges: How Cipriana and TK encourage each other Integration practices: breathwork, movement, music, and writingWhy It’s ImportantAs identical twins navigating life together, Cipriana and TK offer unique insights into the importance of transparency and authenticity in addressing personal and collective challenges. Their candid discussions on childhood trauma, their evolving relationship with nutrition, and their transformative experiences with psychedelics, particularly ibogaine, shed light on the complexities of healing. By sharing their journey, Cipriana and TK provide inspiration and practical advice on integrating holistic practices into day-to-day life. This conversation is essential for anyone interested in understanding the nuances of healing, the role of psychedelics in that process, and the critical need for inclusivity in the psychedelic realm.Relevant Links TK Wonder on Instagram Cipriana Quann on Instagram Chew on Something Official podcast Harpers Bazaar Netherlands cover​​ TK Wonder and Cipriana Quann in Masthead Magazine The Unlikely Professional Who Helped Heal Childhood Trauma (The Cut) Cipriana’s TEDxFIT Talk Cipriana & TK Quann, Urban Bush Babes

Brothers Naithon and Kris Cook, also known by their stage names, Holistic Meditation and Emcee Monkey D., are a dynamic hip hop duo you may have seen on TikTok, Instagram and YouTube. They go by the Freedom Renegades, and they rap about consciousness, but in a hard-hitting style influenced by old-school legends like Rakim and Scarface. In their own words, they are “two brothers on the adventure of a lifetime, making beautiful music for beautiful people.” Well versed in the psychedelic realm, Nate and Kris recently returned from a trip to Beond where they took ibogaine for the first time. To end their 10-day stay, they played a concert for guests and staff. What We Disscuss What separates the Freedom Renegades from other hip hop artists What influences their music Looking at the lyrics of “One Last Ride” What it’s like to freestyle for 2 hours a day on TikTok Nate & Kris’ different expectations and experiences of ibogaine Being in the same room together during treatment How they are integrating their experience How ibogaine has influenced their creative processWhy It’s ImportantAs the Freedom Renegades, Nate and Kris write lyrics with the goal of uplifting and inspiring listeners, drawing on musical and spiritual influences alike to deliver a message that you won’t find on the latest Billboard chart. Though Nate and Kris are the first guests on this show to have been in the same room together during their treatment, they had very different journeys. Learning about their experiences with ibogaine provides insight into how distinctly personal an experience with this medicine can be, and how one’s creative process might be influenced by a deep psychedelic journey. Relevant Links Freedom Renegades official website Freedom Renegades on YouTube Holistic Meditation on TikTok Emcee Monkey D. on TikTok Holistic Meditation on Spotify Introducing The Freedom Renegades, a Rap Duo on the Rise

Certified sex addiction therapist Gary Katz is back for a second episode following a recent men’s retreat at Beond. Gary is the founder for the Center for Intimacy Recovery in New York. He has been trained in a variety of modalities including sensorimotor psychotherapy and EMDR. Gary joins us again to dive back into the subject of sex addiction, this time answering questions we didn’t get to cover in our last discussion, and discussing the retreat for men suffering from sex addiction. Why Gary decided to become a sex therapist after 20 years in education Self-awareness: What are the signs that one’s sexual behaviors are becoming problematic? Denial as a result of shame and guilt The first line of treatment Talk therapy: How effective is it? Where does it lack? Men’s retreat: Why six men joined Gary at Beond in May Feedback post-ibogaine treatment The importance of preparation and integrationWhy it’s important:Where much of Gary’s last appearance on the show was dedicated to unpacking the “what” and “why” of sex addiction, this episode speaks to the “how”: how to identify it, and how to treat it. Gary discusses the experience of witnessing six men dealing with different levels of compulsive or destructive sexual or intimate behaviors, who traveled to Beond to receive ibogaine treatment and engage in twice-daily group therapy sessions. How did they come to a place of feeling better? Gary highlights the importance of honesty, accountability, preparation, and integration, and reminds us that when it comes to using psychedelics or engaging in healing work of any kind, we’re all starting at different places and moving at different paces. Relevant links: Ibogaine Uncovered: Episode 31: Ibogaine for Sex Addiction and Betrayal Trauma The Center for Intimacy Recovery About Gary Center for Intimacy Recovery: Men’s Retreat Statistics on Sex Addiction in America

Tom Feegel is an entrepreneur, founder and the CEO of Beond. When he and his partner Talia Eisenberg, who we’ve had on the show before, co-founded Beond in early 2022, Tom was the first person to undergo treatment. Since then, he’s witnessed thousands of ibogaine treatments under an ever-improving set of protocols and standards. What we discuss:  Three unique characteristics of ibogaine when compared to other psychedelics What “the intellectual’s psychedelic” means How Tom knew he was ready for ibogaine Unpacking Tom’s life review on ibogaine How Tom’s ibogaine experience – and all other subsequent treatments – have informed Beond’s treatment process The importance of preparation and integration Tom’s vital spiritual practices Reflecting on growth and looking ahead to emerging research Why it’s important: Tom offers a unique perspective – not just on Beond itself, but on the experience of ibogaine. Combined with his personal experience, the sheer volume of transformations he’s been able to witness provide him with an intimate understanding of how much has changed and improved in the nearly three years that Beond has been in operation. As he describes it, the team’s focus is not on being the best, but on “being the best at getting better.” Tom speaks from his heart, offering reflections on his own experience with ibogaine, spirituality, and fatherhood – and reminding us of some valuable life lessons that can only be taught by children. Relevant Links: The Cure to The Opioid Epidemic in America Psychedelics Treatment for Addiction and Emotional Trauma with Tom Feegel More on Tom Feegel via the Beond Blog

Vinessa Antoine is an award-winning actress, filmmaker and writer. She has played roles in various Canadian and American television shows including The Resident, Interrogation, Ginny & Georgia, Heartland, and Being Erica. In 2018, Vinessa made history by becoming the first black Canadian person to lead a dramatic show in Canada. She recently finished shooting another leading role in the dramatic series Plan B, scheduled to air in fall of 2024. She is currently working on a groundbreaking documentary series that challenges viewers to unlearn conventional wisdom, embrace change, and embark on a journey of self-discovery and personal growth. What we discuss:  Vinessa’s primary motivation for seeking out ibogaine treatment Expectations of the ibogaine journey The visual experience: what Vinessa was shown by ibogaine What it was like to share the experience with a family member Life pre-ibogaine vs. life now: impact on career, family, motherhood Vinessa’s experience with the healing and wellness space Red flags in the wellness industry Vinessa’s upcoming docuseries: what to expect Why it’s important: Vinessa experienced ibogaine treatment at Beond a few months ago, and was primarily motivated to go to supper her brother, who was seeking help with substance use. Her journey proved to be about much more than supporting her brother. Vinessa reflects on her experience, describing the intense visual journey she was taken on by ibogaine and the lessons she learned about herself along the way. She also explains how her treatment has impacted a docuseries that aims to inspire a movement for change and empower individuals to take charge of their own lives.  Relevant Links: Vinessa Antoine - IMDB Vinessa’s Instagram

Dr. Dalibor Sames is a professor of chemistry at Columbia University, where he runs an independent research program dedicated to studying and developing drugs that induce neuroplasticity. After developing what he describes as “aesthetic admiration” for the molecular structure of ibogaine, Dr. Sames began studying ibogaine and iboga alkaloids, and soon after went on to develop ibogaine analogues as novel therapeutics. He is working to develop these drugs further as the co-founder of two start-up pharmaceutical companies, Gilgamesh Pharmaceuticals (which recently signed a deal to collaborate with AbbVie) and KURES.  What we discuss:  Dr. Sames’ aesthetic admiration for ibogaine “New chemical entities:” Why create analogs to ibogaine? Do we need them? The unique molecular structure of ibogaine Ibogaine’s mechanism of action: how it compares to other psychedelics How small changes in the structure of ibogaine lead to significant differences in its pharmacology Oxa-ibogaine: potential safety and efficacy Ibogaine as a teacher and gate opener Collaborating with big pharma: Is ‘the trip’ necessary? Why it’s important: For as long as psychedelic drugs have re-entered the mainstream, the question has been posed: why spend time and money developing alternatives to psychedelics when we can spend that time and money studying the ones we already use? (It’s a question the host of our show has asked herself many times.) In this episode, Dr. Dalibor Sames makes a great case for developing ibogaine analogues, especially with regard to the cardiac risks associated with the drug. Dr. Sames also describes ibogaine in a way we haven’t heard before on this show, detailing the many complexities of the molecule and explaining how a simple change to its structure (such as swapping its nitrogen indole for oxygen) can have a massive impact on its effects. Relevant Links: Dr. Dalibor Sames’ Bio The Sames Research Group Experimental Therapeutics, Basic Science and Drug Development (Sames Group) Gilgamesh Pharmaceutical AbbVie and Gilgamesh Pharmaceuticals Announcement (May 13, 2024) Novel Class of Psychedelic Iboga Alkaloids Disrupts Opioid Use