

Orion's The Weighing Machine
Orion Portfolio Solutions
Orion’s The Weighing Machine How does Orion help financial advisors guide investors toward their financial goals? We provide the services and solutions advisors need to help clients stay invested in balanced portfolios. On Orion’s “The Weighing Machine,” featuring Ben Vaske, BFA, we cut through the market clamor and focus on time-tested principles that help financial advisors and investors reach their long-term financial goals. Each podcast reviews weekly commentary by Orion’s investment team and features a special guest to discuss market headlines.
Wealth Management services are offered by Orion Portfolio Solutions, LLC d/b/a Brinker Capital Investments a registered investment advisor. Orion Portfolio Solutions, LLC is a wholly owned subsidiary of Orion Advisor Solutions, Inc. (“Orion”).
Think2perform’s Behavioral Financial Advice program integrates traditional finance practices with psychology and neuroscience to improve emotional competency and decision-making behavior that increases effective usage of the financial plan with clients. To obtain the Behavioral Financial Advisor (BFA) designation, participants must complete a self-directed course, which takes 20-30 hours to complete, and includes a mix of interactive exercises, videos and case studies. To learn more about the BFA, visit https://www.think2perform.com.
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Wealth Management services are offered by Orion Portfolio Solutions, LLC d/b/a Brinker Capital Investments a registered investment advisor. Orion Portfolio Solutions, LLC is a wholly owned subsidiary of Orion Advisor Solutions, Inc. (“Orion”).
Think2perform’s Behavioral Financial Advice program integrates traditional finance practices with psychology and neuroscience to improve emotional competency and decision-making behavior that increases effective usage of the financial plan with clients. To obtain the Behavioral Financial Advisor (BFA) designation, participants must complete a self-directed course, which takes 20-30 hours to complete, and includes a mix of interactive exercises, videos and case studies. To learn more about the BFA, visit https://www.think2perform.com.
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Jul 20, 2021 • 33min
Sal Gilbertie of Teucrium Trading LLC. - The Future of Commodity Markets and Creative Diversification
In today’s episode, Rusty and Robyn talk to Sal Gilbertie, President and Chief Investment Officer at Teucrium Trading, LLC.Sal’s first experience in trading and brokering was at Cargill in the early 80’s. After getting some reps in, he realized that trading securities stocks wasn’t a long-term venture for him. He moved on from there to an ethanol futures desk, which traded about 30 different commodities. Building on his experience, Sal created ETFs on agricultural products, and consequently, launched his own firm. Sal talks with Rusty and Robyn about agriculture-focused portfolio diversification, the challenges to the agriculture industry, and the future of the commodity market."There's so much innovation going on. It's astounding. What's happening now is I'd say, in 10 years, big grains are the place that money's going to flow—as it has been doing." ~ Sal GilbertieMain Takeaways
Diversify your portfolio by investing in agricultural products. Commodities have volatility like stocks, but they have low correlations to stocks like bonds.
The best time to buy grains is when they’re flatline, when they’re ‘boring’. Most are yet to realize the great potential of agricultural investment funds.
Good traders must focus on the opportunities more than the risks. Good investors, on the other hand, must do open-minded research and then have a patient, disciplined approach when investing.
Links
Sal Gilbertie on LinkedIn
Rain is a Good Thing by Luke Bryan
Teucrium Trading LLC
Teucrium Corn Fund (CORN)
Cargill
US Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC)
The Wall Street Journal
Three-child Policy
40 Act Fund
Paul Tudor Jones
AgriTalk
Market Wizards: Interviews with Top Traders by Jack D Schwager
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1940-OAS-6/30/2021

Jul 13, 2021 • 31min
Ken Sleeper of Sierra Investment Management - Tactical Investing and Rejecting Popular Opinion
In today’s episode, Rusty and Robyn talk to Ken Sleeper, Co-Founder and Managing Director of Sierra Investment Management.Ken has been the industry’s go-to expert for advanced risk and portfolio management for decades. Unswayed by hype, Ken is known for making company decisions based on relevant information and remaining firm in his choices. Ken talks with Rusty and Robyn about the secret behind Sierra’s decades of success, tactical rules-based investing, and the current market outlook on income, equity, and cryptocurrencies."There are almost too many points of view—what we need to have is a cohesive strategy and not react to the latest talking head or the latest point of view. Having a strategy that gets implemented on a daily basis is so important." ~ Ken SleeperMain Takeaways
Clients come first. The secret to staying on top is knowing what your firm is good at and sticking to it.
The three main asset classes at this point are income, equity, and cryptocurrencies. Always think about your level of knowledge about your investment, your risk exposure, and your resources.
To be a great financial advisor and investor, you have to be tactical. Learn from others’ mistakes and keep your eyes on the market, but don’t make quick decisions because of hype.
Links
Ken Sleeper
I Won't Back Down by Tom Petty
Ocean Park Asset Management
Sierra Investment Management
Market Wizards: Interviews with Top Traders by Jack D Schwager
Manias, Panics, and Crashes: A History of Financial Crises by Charles P. Kindleberger
Investor's Business Daily
The Wall Street Journal
Reddit
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1915-OAS-6/28/2021

Jul 6, 2021 • 56min
Dave Lundgren of the Fill the Gap Podcast - Mastering Your Investment Style
In today's episode, Rusty and Robyn talk with Dave Lundgren, a 30-year investment veteran who is now the co-host of the Fill The Gap podcast.Dave is an expert in technical analysis strategies. He’s especially adept at watching trends and momentum swings in stock valuation. Currently, Dave serves on the CMT Association’s board of directors and is a private investor. Dave talks with Rusty and Robyn about the wonders of technical analysis, the difference between following trends and the following momentum, the role of sentiment in stock valuation, and how to master your investment style. “It's not about finding the holy grail—finding the style that makes money all the time. It's about finding the style that fits you, and knowing that style inside and out so that when things are going wrong, you don't take it personally." ~ Dave LundgrenMain Takeaways
Technical analysis is as important as fundamental analysis. It's your road map; it shows you how to get to your destination.
Focus on the price. There's a universal formula for price and it involves stock valuation and sentiment.
Master your own investing style. There's no absolute investing approach that makes more money over the long-term. Making money and overcoming setbacks are all about the execution of whichever method you use.
Links
Dave Lundgren on LinkedIn
Rosalita by Bruce Springsteen
Dave Lundgren, CMT, CFA
Fill The Gap Podcast
Charles Dow Theory
Trading In the Zone: Master the Market with Confidence, Discipline and a Winning Attitude by Mark Douglas
David Ricardo
Reminiscences of a Stock Operator by Edwin Lefevre
How to Trade in Stocks by Jesse Livermore
How I Made $2,000,000 in the Stock Market by Nicholas Darvas
How to Make Money in Stocks: A Winning System in Good Times and Bad by William O'Neil
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Jun 29, 2021 • 22min
Jake Gilliam of Charles Schwab & Co. - Reimagining Asset Allocation and Building Investment Portfolios
In today’s episode, Rusty and Robyn talk with Jake Gilliam, Head of Multi Asset Solutions at Charles Schwab & Co. Inc.Jake is a 20-year veteran at Charles Schwab, who has taken on a lot of different positions in his tenure, eventually landing in the multi-asset solutions group. The investment bug bit him early on as an intern with Schwab, and he never looked back. Jake talks with Rusty and Robyn about fundamental weighting, what it means to be strategic and tactical, and how human-to-financial capital shifts over time and what that means for risk tolerance. “If you do the right thing for clients with a multi-asset class portfolio or any other service that truly helps them, you can help a lot of people that you’ll never meet eye-to-eye, and that’s something really powerful about our industry.” ~ Jake GilliamMain takeaways
Being strategic means that you’re making an investment decision for the long-term and recognizing what the market conditions might be during that time rather than trying to time the markets.
Advisors or those in financial services should always be focused on helping investors get a plan, stick to that plan, and have a good outcome. We want them to be in a place where clients won’t overreact or sell off their assets at the worst times.
If you look at how the ratio of human and financial capital changes over time with a client, it can help you understand where they might be able to tolerate more or less risk along the way.
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Jake Gilliam on LinkedIn
Schwab Asset Management
Omar Aguilar
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Jun 22, 2021 • 38min
Christopher King of Eaglebrook Advisors - Understanding the Urgency of Crypto for Advisors
In today’s episode, Rusty and Robyn talk to Christopher King, Founder and CEO of Eaglebrook Advisors.Christopher King is a seasoned financial advisor who’s based in Jersey City, New Jersey. Together with his team at Eaglebrook Advisors, they provide digital asset-focused investment management solutions to wealth managers, RIAs, private banks, and institutions. Chris talks with Rusty and Robyn about the role of bitcoin as an emerging store value, why advisors need to educate themselves around crypto, and some brilliant strategies on why to use crypto as a portfolio diversifier.“We’re seeing from an advisor’s perspective that understanding how Bitcoin and crypto work from an education perspective is a now defense as opposed to offense. Advisors need to talk about it articulately to their clients—or their clients are gonna go somewhere else.” ~ @cjking711Main takeaways
Bitcoin is an emerging store value, comparable to gold, even with its extreme volatility. This blue-chip asset satisfies Paul Tudor Jones’ four characteristics of a store value: trustworthiness, liquidity, portability, and purchasing power.
Advisors need to talk about crypto investing articulately to their clients. They need to be informed and updated with how crypto is changing the investment landscape.
There are 3 (+1) talking points for advisors when clients are looking into adding crypto to their portfolios. And, in terms of position sizing, a 3-4% slice of a client’s portfolio can be allocated to crypto.
Links
Christopher King on LinkedIn
Christopher King on Twitter
Eaglebrook Advisors Official Website
Bitcoin
Ethereum
Paul Tudor Jones’ Bitcoin Investment Thesis
Charlie Munger calls Bitcoin ‘disgusting and contrary to the interests of civilization’ | CNBC
Nic Carter
Raoul Pal
The Block
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Jun 15, 2021 • 31min
Ryan Issakainen of First Trust Portfolios - Inflation Concerns and a Deep-Dive on ETFs
In today’s episode, Rusty and Robyn talk with Ryan Issakainen, ETF strategist and SVP at First Trust Portfolios. When Ryan graduated college, he spent nine weeks traveling Europe and hopped from temp job to temp job before landing at First Trust Portfolios. He realized pretty quickly that First Trust was a place he could happily grow into professionally. 22 years later, he’s certainly done so.Investors succeed as a result of the advice and conviction presented by investment professionals. So for Ryan and First Trust, the best way to help investors is to help the advisors in their ears. At First Trust, Ryan helps the firm advocate for advisors through innovative products and intellectual property.Ryan talks with Rusty and Robyn about all things ETFs including what’s ahead for the ETF industry, whether advisors should worry about inflation, and why transparency is everything. “The most important thing that an economist can do isn’t that they nail the S&P end of the year number, because nobody’s really gonna do that consistently. They’re not fortune-tellers. It’s really directionally, and that’s what their team is more focused on. They’ve got their models, but what they want to make sure they get right is to say, ‘the market is too cheap or too expensive with stocks’ or ‘commodities are going to be a good place to be.’ That is the most important part.” ~ Ryan IssakainenMain takeaways
The ETF industry will continue to grow. However, the growth may not be in the S&P 500, but the less obvious avenues like active management, factors, and themes.
ETFs tend to be more tax-efficient regardless of which bracket you land in. However, it’s not the only feature that makes ETFs a hot commodity. The transparency and the real-time pricing are equally as valuable.
The benefits of transparent portfolios always outweigh the downfalls of transparency.
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Ryan on LinkedIn
First Trust Portfolios
Metallica
Jack Johnson
Wheaton College
First Trust Newsletter
RDVY
FTGC
FIXD
FIW
GRID
US ETF Investors Mainly Motivated By Tax Loophole, Study Shows
Rich Americans Fleeing Tax Hikes May Turbocharge Shift To ETFs
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1757-OAS-5/28/2021

Jun 8, 2021 • 20min
Amy Magnotta of Brinker Capital - The Future of Portfolios, and Women in Finance
In today’s episode, Rusty and Robyn talk with Amy Magnotta, SVP and Head of Discretionary Portfolios at Brinker Capital Investments. Amy landed a job in investments right out of college. While it wasn’t her ideal job, she learned a great deal about investments, particularly fixed income. After stints at BlackRock and Franklin Park, Amy joined Brinker in 2006 and hasn’t looked back. Today Amy manages active and diversified portfolios, constantly focusing on helping advisors and clients achieve their financial goals through investments.Amy talks with Rusty and Robyn about key qualities of top investment firms, the role of behavioral finance, why the pandemic helped women in finance, and her outlook on the evolution of portfolios.“Challenge yourself to read opposing opinions. I think that’s hard for most people. It’s hard for me. But you should really be able to. Especially when you’re thinking about making investment decisions you should really be able to have that opposing opinion and make sure your thesis is bulletproof by being able to defend it.” ~ Amy MagnottaMain takeaways
Mentors don’t need to be professionals in your field. Seek out whoever can be helpful.
Read as much as you can, always ask questions, and always ask others how you can be helpful. Don’t worry about being annoying, worry about being an advocate for yourself.
Find ways to wade through the overwhelming amount of information that’s out there. Set a specific time to catch up on trends and reading each day and always read opposing viewpoints.
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Amy on LinkedIn
Brinker Capital
Franklin Park
BlackRock
SEI Investments
Barron’s
The Weighing Machine 081: Behavioral Finance Strategies & Best Practices with Orion’s Dr. Daniel Crosby
Dr. Daniel Crosby
Odd Lots
Masters in Business
The Psychology of Money by Morgan Housel
The Price You Pay For College by Ron Lieber
An Economist Gets Lunch by Tyler Cowen
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1689-OAS-5/20/2021

May 31, 2021 • 27min
Jay Jacobs and Tom Driscoll of Global X ETFs - Thematic ETFs and Income-Based Investing
In today’s episode, Rusty and Robyn talk with Jay Jacobs & Tom Driscoll of Global X ETFs in New York City. Jay is the Head of Research & Global Strategy while Tom leads model portfolio sales. Jay’s goal at Global X ETFs is to develop a deep understanding of new industry products and share those insights with clients as products are released. In doing so, his team works to strategize the implementation of advances in technology and integrate new products into clients’ overall portfolios. Tom is responsible for bringing thematic and income-based strategies straight to the marketplace. Jay and Tom talk with Rusty and Robyn about the progression of our modern economy, why thematic investing is much more than a marketing gimmick, and exactly how much investors should allocate to thematic investing. “The way I think about thematic investing is trying to get a jumpstart on the next leaders. The next leaders of individual sectors, the next leaders of the S&P 500, maybe even the NASDAQ 100. Not all of these companies will succeed, but the idea is that investing in an ETF that can give you exposure to 30, 40, or 50 names in a space like Genomics or in a space like FinTech, lets you participate in the rise of that industry before it even starts to be a blip on the S&P 500.” ~ @jayjacobsCFAMain takeaways
The new investors of our time getting into robo advising have a bright future ahead. Those platforms aren’t going away and they’re an opportunity for advisors and investors alike to improve client outcomes and expand their portfolios.
Change in the financial industry is driven by investor demographics. ETFs like FinTech are helping an industry known for being the last to change, embrace disruption. Advisors must develop technology and services that can meet the unmet needs of the next generation of investors.
Global X ETFs approaches thematic investing from a model portfolio perspective as a type of satellite strategy, using ETFs to compliment someone’s core portfolio.
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Jay on LinkedIn
Tom on LinkedIn
Jay on Twitter
Global X ETFs
Berkshire Hathaway
Robinhood
U2
Goldman Sachs
Barron’s
Genomics
FinTech
Bloomberg
FactSet
Morningstar
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1717-OAS-5/24/2021

May 21, 2021 • 41min
Scott Ladner of Horizon Investments - Income Investing and Risk Management
In today’s episode, Rusty and Robyn talk with Scott Ladner, Chief Investment Officer at Horizon Investments in North Carolina. After majoring in economics and Russian literature in college, Scott decided that the financial industry was a better career path for him. He started as a derivatives and volatility trader for banks and hedge funds, before starting his own arbitrage hedge fund that eventually folded into Horizon Investments. Scott talks with Rusty and Robyn about the tailwinds that are pushing the markets forward, the state of cryptocurrency, and what it means to be a truly tactical investor. He also shares strategies for how to change and evolve in a fast-paced industry.“In a goals-based framework, the way you define the return and the way you define risk mathematically changes depending on where your client is with respect to their financial plan. Is their primary objective growing assets or protecting assets? That primary objective will help inform the primary metric we use to define risk. And that combination will drive how the money ends up being managed.” @horizoninvestmentMain takeaways
There are consistent positive returns if you look in unlikely places. A bond portfolio is going to do well and provide positive returns.
Like everything else in life, a portfolio is about trade-offs. Clients should think about the four most critical components of their portfolio before making decisions about allocation: liquidity, inflation protection, portfolio growth, and legacy wealth.
Clients thrive with clear expectations. Happy clients come from clear expectations of how a product is meant to perform.
Links
Horizon Investments
Horizon Investments on Twitter
Horizon Investments on LinkedIn
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1694-OAS-5/20/2021

Apr 8, 2021 • 50min
Dr. Daniel Crosby of Orion - Behavioral Finance Strategies & Best Practices
In today’s episode, we discuss behavioral finance as a practical tool for advisors to enhance their business & strengthen client relationships. A deep understanding of these strategies can help advisors identify bias while better understanding investor behavior and the overall market. Guest: Orion Advisor Solutions’ Dr. Daniel Crosby.
Show Notes:
Brinker Capital Investments Blog Post: Positioning yourself as a behavioral coach
Ted Talks from Dr. Daniel Crosby:
TEDxHuntsville - Daniel Crosby - You're Not That Great: A Motivational Speech - Discussed on podcast.
Sex, Funds, & Rock N' Roll: Daniel Crosby at TEDxHuntsville
Can being weird make you rich and happy?: Daniel Crosby at TEDxBYU
Latest Books by Dr. Daniel Crosby
The Laws of Wealth: Psychology and the secret to investing success
The Behavioral Investor
Rusty on The Meb Faber Show Podcast
Dr. Daniel Crosby on The Meb Faber Show Podcast
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