Some Dare Call It Conspiracy

Some Dare Call It Conspiracy is an investigative podcast examining conspiracy culture from the inside out.Hosted by Brent Lee and Neil Sanders, the show explores how conspiracy narratives form, how they spread, and why they are so effective at capturing attention and loyalty. Both hosts spent years immersed in conspiracy belief before walking away, giving them first-hand insight into how these movements operate, evolve, and entrench themselves.Drawing on lived experience, deep research, expert voices, and a distinctly British sense of humour, the podcast combines serious analysis with sharp, often self-deprecating commentary. The focus is on systems, incentives, and influence, rather than punching down at ordinary people caught up in belief.The show is best known for its long-form Deep Dives into specific conspiracy narratives, commentary on conspiracy influencers and alternative media ecosystems, and interviews with journalists, researchers, and insiders working in this space.Conspiracy thinking is no longer fringe. It shapes politics, public health, and personal relationships. This podcast exists to help listeners understand that landscape with clarity, context, and a sense of proportion.---About the HostsBrent Lee is a writer, producer, and former conspiracy activist whose decision to leave the movement, and to speak openly about that process, attracted widespread media attention. On the podcast, Brent focuses on production, creative direction, and analysis grounded in lived experience.Neil Sanders is a writer and researcher who was once regarded as a respected figure within the conspiracy world. Before leaving, he authored books on mind control and MKULTRA-related narratives and hosted his own programme on David Icke’s Ickonic network. Neil now leads on research and analysis for the show.Together, they bring an insider’s understanding, investigative rigour, and a refusal to take grift seriously, even when the subject matter is heavy.---Website: https://www.somedarecallitconspiracy.comPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/somedarecallitconspiracyTwitter/X: https://x.com/somedarepodcastBluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/somedarepodcast.bsky.socialInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/somedarecallitconspiracyFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/somedarecallitconspiracyTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@somedarecallitconspiracyYouTube: https://youtube.com/@somedarecallitconspiracyContact: somedarecallitconspiracy@gmail.comBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/some-dare-call-it-conspiracy--5932731/support.

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Nov 27, 2023 • 28min

Interview • Tony D: Chatting About Conspiracy Theories In Hip Hop And The Classroom

🔥🦉🔥 - In the last few years we have seen a significant rise in the belief of conspiracy theories. From the dismissal of facts as fake news to the full embrace of conspiracy theories by politicians and commentators, we face an uncertain future. Democracy is under attack and our open and free societies are in danger due to a dangerous mind virus. Conspiracism is the new pandemic. Our new project, Tin Foil Confessions, is not just a podcast and book; it's a beacon of hope for those lost in the maze of conspiracism. It's a story of redemption, a guide back to reality, and a testament to the power of change. But to bring this project to life, to reach more people and make a greater impact, we need your support.So, we ask you, join us in this fight against the pandemic of misinformation. Help us illuminate the path for those seeking truth and clarity. Donate to https://www.tinfoilconfessions.com today and let's build a future grounded in reality, together.🔥🦉🔥 - Welcome back to Some Dare Call It Conspiracy with Brent Lee and Neil Sanders! We have got a brilliant guest for you today. Tony D is best known as a legendary Hip Hop artist and the King of the UK battle scene. He is a teacher and a strong political voice in the community. We know his music, we know his battles, but who is Tony D the man? Let's find out! Follow Tony D on X: @tonypoison - Love our work? Want to support the show? Join us and become a member of our super secret club: The Shilluminati!‼️- Benefits include:✅️ Enjoy every episode without annoying ads!✅️ Early access to episodes! ✅️ Early access to every "On Trial" series - All 8 parts on day one - NO waiting! ✅️ Exclusive *members only* episodes every month! ✅️ Handlers are now invited to join us live as audience members when we record!✅️ Discord (coming soon)‼️- Free gifts:✅️ Brent Lee's discography (8 Albums/EPs)✅️ Neil's books including:✅️ Your Thoughts Are Not Your Own Volumes I & II (PDF)✅️ Cambridge Analytica (PDF)✅️ Now's The Only Thing That Is Real (PDF)✅️ Audiobook of "Your Thoughts Are Not Your Own Vol I"✅️ Headache Comics Four (PDF) featuring Nicolas C Grey, Carl Youri , Alma Lefverstrom, Stephen Grey, Fritz Welch, Paul Jacksties, Daniel Watson ( crywank ), Jon Pogorelskin, Greta Pielage, Chan Phoun, Haider Ali Jan, R. Crumb- Some Dare Call It Conspiracy is produced entirely by Brent Lee and Neil Sanders. Consider supporting us by subscribing, sharing, liking or leaving a review wherever your listening to us and follow us on: YouTube - https://YouTube.com/@brentleetvPodcast - https://www.spreaker.com/show/some-dare-call-it-conspiracyTwitter - https://twitter.com/somedarepodcastTwitter - https://twitter.com/BrentLeeSDCICTwitter - https://twitter.com/NeilSandersMC Web - somedarecallitconspiracy.comWeb - https://www.neilsandersmindcontrol.co.uk Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/some-dare-call-it-conspiracy--5932731/support.Some Dare Call It ConspiracyAn investigative podcast hosted by Brent Lee and Neil Sanders.Website: https://www.somedarecallitconspiracy.comPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/somedarecallitconspiracyTwitter/X: https://x.com/somedarepodcastBluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/somedarepodcast.bsky.socialInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/somedarecallitconspiracyFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/somedarecallitconspiracyTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@somedarecallitconspiracyYouTube: https://youtube.com/@somedarecallitconspiracyContact: somedarecallitconspiracy@gmail.com

Oct 5, 2023 • 1h 58min

Bonus • Conditional Release Program: Joel Hill And Brent Lee Discuss Being Former Conspiracy Theorists

Sep 24, 2023 • 1h

Deep Dive • Cambridge Analytica (15/15) What Were Cambridge Analytica Doing In Italy?

Sep 10, 2023 • 1h 35min

Commentary • Movie Night With Greg Hall: They Cloned Tyrone

Sep 3, 2023 • 44min

Deep Dive • Cambridge Analytica (14/15) Who is Arron Banks?

Aug 26, 2023 • 1h 1min

Deep Dive • Cambridge Analytica (13/15) What Are The Realities Of No Deal?

Aug 22, 2023 • 13min

Bonus • The MetaConspiracy (2/2) A Brief History Of The Grand Conspiracy Myth

Welcome to Some Dare Call It Conspiracy! Shortly after emerging from the rabbit hole in 2018, our host Brent Lee had some big questions to answer. Why did this happen? Why did he believe any of it? And where did this idea even come from? Who started the rumour mill? How did it manifest through the years? This is a brief history of the grand conspiracy myth. In this two parter, Brent Lee explores: Abbe Barruel, John Robison, Illuminati, Freemasons, The Simonini letter, Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, Satanic Palladist Freemasons, Leo Taxil Hoax, Nesta Helen Webster, Illuminati Communists, British Fascism, John Birch Society, Robert Welch, Alex Jones, David Icke, William Cooper and Jordan Maxwell. Unveiling the Origins of the Grand Conspiracy Myth: A Historical Perspective Exploring the Influential Figures and Movement That Shaped Modern Conspiracy Theories Section 1: Illuminati and Freemason Conspiracy Origins - In the podcast, Brent Lee delves into the origins of the Illuminati and Freemason conspiracy myths, tracing their historical roots and how they gave birth to the antisemitic and satanic grand conspiracy theories that still dominate today's conspiracy movements. This foundational understanding sets the stage for the emergence of influential figures and movements that propelled the grand conspiracy myth forward. Section 2: Nesta Helen Webster and the Resurrection of Conspiracism - The discussion shifts to early 20th century Britain, a period dubbed as the Downton Abbey era, where Nesta Helen Webster, a British author and outspoken feminist, enters the narrative. Interestingly, Webster's conviction of being the reincarnation of the French countess of Saban and her deep interest in the French Revolution set the backdrop for her later contributions to conspiracist literature. In her books, she resurrected reactionary conspiracism by linking the orchestrators of the French Revolution to the events following World War I, worker revolutions in Europe and Russia, and the rise of global communism. It's revealed that her ideas were even embraced and endorsed by prominent figures such as Winston Churchill, reflecting the widespread influence of her conspiratorial beliefs. Section 3: The John Birch Society and Robert Welch, Jr. - The narrative takes a turn towards the early to mid-20th century American milieu, where the John Birch Society, founded by Robert Welch, Jr., emerged as a highly influential group perpetuating conspiracy theories. Welch's meeting in 1958, attended by notable figures like Fred Koch and Revelo P. Oliver, laid the groundwork for the society's mission to expose and combat the grand conspiracy. Welch's compelling narrative of a global conspiracy orchestrated by the "insiders" resonated with his audience and propelled the society's rapid growth to 60,000-100,000 members nationwide. Section 4: Influence of the John Birch Society and Modern Conspiracy Theories - Brent Lee discusses the impact of the John Birch Society, highlighting its members' infiltration into various spheres of society, including local government and parent-teacher associations. The dissemination of conspiracy-based literature and the propagation of theories linking the United Nations to a new world order and alleging sinister plots involving the civil rights movement, fluoride, and influential groups such as the Council on Foreign Relations and the Bilderberg Group, shed light on the society's enduring impact. Section 5: Legacy and Modern Echoes of the Grand Conspiracy Myth - The podcast concludes by drawing a parallel between the grand conspiracy myth propagated by figures like Nesta Helen Webster and the John Birch Society and its modern echoes seen in the works of contemporary conspiracy theorists like Jordan Maxwell, William Cooper, Alex Jones, and David Icke. This historical perspective reveals the enduring influence of early 20th-century ideas on present-day conspiracy theories, urging listeners to engage critically with these narratives. In summation, the podcast provides a comprehensive historical exploration of the grand conspiracy myth, shedding light on its influential proponents and their lasting impact on modern conspiracism. This examination offers invaluable insights into the origins and evolution of conspiracy theories, prompting listeners to scrutinize the narratives shaping contemporary discourse. By delving into the historical roots of the grand conspiracy myth and its proponents, the podcast offers a thought-provoking journey through the evolution of conspiratorial beliefs. It not only invites critical reflection but also underscores the enduring influence of early 20th-century figures on contemporary conspiracy theories, encouraging listeners to approach such narratives with discernment and skepticism.🔥🦉🔥 Some Dare Call It Conspiracy is produced entirely by Brent Lee and Neil Sanders. Consider supporting us and get access to AD FREE episodes, exclusive Patreon only episodes, bonus content and an invitation to our private Discord server by joining our Patreon. Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/somedarecallitconspiracy Or support us by subscribing, sharing, liking or leaving a review wherever you're listening to us! Please visit our website for all of our social media links, email address and various press clippings! www.somedarecallitconspiracy.com 🔥🦉🔥Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/some-dare-call-it-conspiracy--5932731/support.Some Dare Call It ConspiracyAn investigative podcast hosted by Brent Lee and Neil Sanders.Website: https://www.somedarecallitconspiracy.comPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/somedarecallitconspiracyTwitter/X: https://x.com/somedarepodcastBluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/somedarepodcast.bsky.socialInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/somedarecallitconspiracyFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/somedarecallitconspiracyTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@somedarecallitconspiracyYouTube: https://youtube.com/@somedarecallitconspiracyContact: somedarecallitconspiracy@gmail.com

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