Some Dare Call It Conspiracy

Some Dare Call It Conspiracy is an investigative podcast examining conspiracy culture from the inside out.Hosted by Brent Lee and Neil Sanders, the show explores how conspiracy narratives form, how they spread, and why they are so effective at capturing attention and loyalty. Both hosts spent years immersed in conspiracy belief before walking away, giving them first-hand insight into how these movements operate, evolve, and entrench themselves.Drawing on lived experience, deep research, expert voices, and a distinctly British sense of humour, the podcast combines serious analysis with sharp, often self-deprecating commentary. The focus is on systems, incentives, and influence, rather than punching down at ordinary people caught up in belief.The show is best known for its long-form Deep Dives into specific conspiracy narratives, commentary on conspiracy influencers and alternative media ecosystems, and interviews with journalists, researchers, and insiders working in this space.Conspiracy thinking is no longer fringe. It shapes politics, public health, and personal relationships. This podcast exists to help listeners understand that landscape with clarity, context, and a sense of proportion.---About the HostsBrent Lee is a writer, producer, and former conspiracy activist whose decision to leave the movement, and to speak openly about that process, attracted widespread media attention. On the podcast, Brent focuses on production, creative direction, and analysis grounded in lived experience.Neil Sanders is a writer and researcher who was once regarded as a respected figure within the conspiracy world. Before leaving, he authored books on mind control and MKULTRA-related narratives and hosted his own programme on David Icke’s Ickonic network. Neil now leads on research and analysis for the show.Together, they bring an insider’s understanding, investigative rigour, and a refusal to take grift seriously, even when the subject matter is heavy.---Website: https://www.somedarecallitconspiracy.comPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/somedarecallitconspiracyTwitter/X: https://x.com/somedarepodcastBluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/somedarepodcast.bsky.socialInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/somedarecallitconspiracyFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/somedarecallitconspiracyTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@somedarecallitconspiracyYouTube: https://youtube.com/@somedarecallitconspiracyContact: somedarecallitconspiracy@gmail.comBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/some-dare-call-it-conspiracy--5932731/support.

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Mar 27, 2024 • 1h 21min

Bonus • Live Interview With Brent Lee And Neil Sanders On Tin Foil Tales Podcast

Hello Initiates! We have a special bonus episode for you today! A couple weeks back Neil and I were delighted to be interviewed by SOS and Sandee from the Tinfoil Tales Podcast. This was a fantastic chat so we wanted to share it with you. We both highly recommend you go check out and subscribe to Tinfoil Tales!https://redcircle.com/shows/tinfoil-tales 🔥🦉🔥In the last few years we have seen a significant rise in the belief of conspiracy theories. From the dismissal of facts as fake news to the full embrace of conspiracy theories by politicians and commentators, we face an uncertain future. Democracy is under attack and our open and free societies are in danger due to a dangerous mind virus. Conspiracism is the new pandemic. Our new project, Tin Foil Confessions, is not just a podcast and book; it's a beacon of hope for those lost in the maze of conspiracism. It's a story of redemption, a guide back to reality, and a testament to the power of change. But to bring this project to life, to reach more people and make a greater impact, we need your support. So, we ask you, join us in this fight against the pandemic of misinformation. Help us illuminate the path for those seeking truth and clarity. Donate to https://www.tinfoilconfessions.com today and let's build a future grounded in reality, together. 🔥🦉🔥 - Some Dare Call It Conspiracy is produced entirely by Brent Lee and Neil Sanders. Consider supporting us and get access to AD FREE episodes, exclusive Patreon only episodes, bonus content and an invitation to our private Discord server by joining our Patreon.www.patreon.com/somedarecallitconspiracyOr support us by subscribing, sharing, liking or leaving a review wherever you're listening to us!Please visit our website for all of our social media links, email address and various press clippings!www.somedarecallitconspiracy.com🔥🦉🔥Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/some-dare-call-it-conspiracy--5932731/support.Some Dare Call It ConspiracyAn investigative podcast hosted by Brent Lee and Neil Sanders.Website: https://www.somedarecallitconspiracy.comPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/somedarecallitconspiracyTwitter/X: https://x.com/somedarepodcastBluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/somedarepodcast.bsky.socialInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/somedarecallitconspiracyFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/somedarecallitconspiracyTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@somedarecallitconspiracyYouTube: https://youtube.com/@somedarecallitconspiracyContact: somedarecallitconspiracy@gmail.com

Mar 20, 2024 • 53min

Commentary • Neil's Nut Roast: Laurence Fox & Calvin Robinson (The Thick Clown Fox Harrumphs Over The Lazy Dog Collar)

In the last few years we have seen a significant rise in the belief of conspiracy theories. From the dismissal of facts as fake news to the full embrace of conspiracy theories by politicians and commentators, we face an uncertain future. Democracy is under attack and our open and free societies are in danger due to a dangerous mind virus. Conspiracism is the new pandemic. Our new project, Tin Foil Confessions, is not just a podcast and book; it's a beacon of hope for those lost in the maze of conspiracism. It's a story of redemption, a guide back to reality, and a testament to the power of change. But to bring this project to life, to reach more people and make a greater impact, we need your support. So, we ask you, join us in this fight against the pandemic of misinformation. Help us illuminate the path for those seeking truth and clarity. Donate to https://www.tinfoilconfessions.com today and let's build a future grounded in reality, together. 🔥🦉🔥 - Neil is back with another scathing review of conspiracy influencer's desperate bid for relevance. This time, he takes aim at Laurence Fox and Calvin Robinson's new podcast "Fox And Father". Here's an excerpt!So Laurence has done what many others have done when they piss their career away, he has started a youtube/twitter channel where he can hold a flame to the feet of truth, speak freely without fear of repercussions and possibly get away with using the occasional racist epithet. Like adverts for hot girls leaks, these types of shows keep popping up all over twitter, threatening to infect the audience with their edge lord rhetoric. And like said leak videos they are all just a load of arse. The show is called Fox and Father and I was immediately disappointed to realise that this was not an hour of Laurence being berated by his dad for fucking up his life and wasting so many opportunities. The father in question is Calvin Robinson. Calvin has previously tried to become a Deacon in the Church of England but was rejected due to his controversial and bigoted views. This is an organisation that in the past has defended paedophiles within its ranks, and yet it felt that Calvin didn’t quite butter enough parsnips for them. So Calvin became a Deacon in the Free Church of England, which is recognised by the C of E in the same way that Donald Trump recognises his daughter Tiffany, it sometimes vaguely acknowledges the fact that it exists. In 2023 Robinson was ordained in the Nordic Catholic Church (based in Norway) as a Priest. He reminds me of a talentless Canadian ice hockey player who, having been rejected by every team there, tried his luck unsuccessfully in America, the UK and Europe before settling in the second division of some African league in a country where the majority of people have never seen ice. Robinson has previously been involved with various right wing media outlets and has dabbled in reactionary politics. He too was let go by GB News for sticking up for his good buddy Laurence. I did wonder if the show name might be ironic, an acknowledgement of the hosts reputation and an understanding that many people do not see either of them as “proper fathers” but I doubt they have that level of self awareness.🔥🦉🔥Some Dare Call It Conspiracy is produced entirely by Brent Lee and Neil Sanders. Consider supporting us and get access to AD FREE episodes, exclusive Patreon only episodes, bonus content and an invitation to our private Discord server by joining our Patreon.www.patreon.com/somedarecallitconspiracyOr support us by subscribing, sharing, liking or leaving a review wherever you're listening to us!Please visit our website for all of our social media links, email address and various press clippings!www.somedarecallitconspiracy.com🔥🦉🔥Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/some-dare-call-it-conspiracy--5932731/support.Some Dare Call It ConspiracyAn investigative podcast hosted by Brent Lee and Neil Sanders.Website: https://www.somedarecallitconspiracy.comPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/somedarecallitconspiracyTwitter/X: https://x.com/somedarepodcastBluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/somedarepodcast.bsky.socialInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/somedarecallitconspiracyFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/somedarecallitconspiracyTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@somedarecallitconspiracyYouTube: https://youtube.com/@somedarecallitconspiracyContact: somedarecallitconspiracy@gmail.com

Mar 15, 2024 • 2h 27min

Deep Dive • Dismantling The “Plandemic 3: The Great Awakening” Documentary (With Greg Hall)

In the last few years we have seen a significant rise in the belief of conspiracy theories. From the dismissal of facts as fake news to the full embrace of conspiracy theories by politicians and commentators, we face an uncertain future. Democracy is under attack and our open and free societies are in danger due to a dangerous mind virus. Conspiracism is the new pandemic. Our new project, Tin Foil Confessions, is not just a podcast and book; it's a beacon of hope for those lost in the maze of conspiracism. It's a story of redemption, a guide back to reality, and a testament to the power of change. But to bring this project to life, to reach more people and make a greater impact, we need your support.So, we ask you, join us in this fight against the pandemic of misinformation. Help us illuminate the path for those seeking truth and clarity. Donate to https://www.tinfoilconfessions.com today and let's build a future grounded in reality, together. 🔥🦉🔥 - It's Movie Night with Greg Hall! In today's episode, Brent Lee puts the guys through absolute hell and makes them watch Plandemic 3: The Great Awakening by film maker Mikki Willis. Enjoy! From Wikipedia "Plandemic is a trilogy of conspiracy theory films produced by Mikki Willis promoting misinformation about the COVID-19 pandemic. They feature Judy Mikovits, a discredited American researcher and prominent anti-vaccine activist. The first video, Plandemic: The Hidden Agenda Behind Covid-19, was released on May 4, 2020, under Willis' production company Elevate Films. The second film, Plandemic Indoctornation, which includes more interviewees, was released on August 18 by Brian Rose's distributor of conspiracy theory related films, London Real. Later on June 3, 2023, Plandemic 3: The Great Awakening was released on The Highwire, a website devoted to conspiracy theories run by anti-vaccine activist Del Bigtree. Upon its release, the first video went viral, becoming one of the most widespread pieces of COVID-19 misinformation, its popularity most attributed to online word-of-mouth. It was quickly removed by multiple online platforms, but this failed to stop its proliferation. The video also contributed to the increasing rebellion against health protocols. Due to social media companies' preparedness for its release, Plandemic: Indoctornation received less attention. Scientists and health professionals have criticized all the installments of the trilogy for their misleading claims, while Willis' filmmaking style employing various modes of persuasion has been cited as lending to a conspiratorial and brainwashing character of the film." 🔥🦉🔥Some Dare Call It Conspiracy is produced entirely by Brent Lee and Neil Sanders. Consider supporting us and get access to AD FREE episodes, exclusive Patreon only episodes, bonus content and an invitation to our private Discord server by joining our Patreon.www.patreon.com/somedarecallitconspiracyOr support us by subscribing, sharing, liking or leaving a review wherever you're listening to us!Please visit our website for all of our social media links, email address and various press clippings!www.somedarecallitconspiracy.com🔥🦉🔥Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/some-dare-call-it-conspiracy--5932731/support.Some Dare Call It ConspiracyAn investigative podcast hosted by Brent Lee and Neil Sanders.Website: https://www.somedarecallitconspiracy.comPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/somedarecallitconspiracyTwitter/X: https://x.com/somedarepodcastBluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/somedarepodcast.bsky.socialInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/somedarecallitconspiracyFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/somedarecallitconspiracyTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@somedarecallitconspiracyYouTube: https://youtube.com/@somedarecallitconspiracyContact: somedarecallitconspiracy@gmail.com

Mar 6, 2024 • 2h 7min

Bonus • 1,000 Days Of Tin Foil Confessions: Live Show With Mike Rothschild, Mike Wendling And More

Mar 3, 2024 • 9min

Commentary • Deconstructing The “How Far Right Are You” Meme

Exploring the online meme determining far-right alignment, unmasking far-right ideologies through innocuous questions, and identifying signs of far-right leanings. The podcast delves into how subtle manipulation normalizes extremist views and exposes grooming tactics with misinformation.

Feb 28, 2024 • 2h 29min

Bonus • Conditional Release Program: Joel Hill And Neil Sanders Discuss Real Conspiracies

Exploring real conspiracies and the rise of conspiracy theories, Neil and Joel discuss societal shifts, misinformation, sensationalism in news media, flat Earth beliefs, hyper-capitalism, drug dealing approaches, bugs in food production, corporate influence, fragility of masculinity, toilet etiquette, controversies in conspiracy circles, personal journeys into conspiracy theories, right-wing counter-narratives, historical conspiracy theories, and Elon Musk's influence.

Feb 21, 2024 • 58min

Commentary • Neil's Nut Roast: Icke -vs- Jones (Prophets, Popularity, Prima Donnas, Praise And Profits)

Feb 13, 2024 • 1h 20min

Interview • Jon Ronson: The Allure Of Conspiracy Theories And The Culture War

🔥🦉🔥 - In the last few years we have seen a significant rise in the belief of conspiracy theories. From the dismissal of facts as fake news to the full embrace of conspiracy theories by politicians and commentators, we face an uncertain future. Democracy is under attack and our open and free societies are in danger due to a dangerous mind virus. Conspiracism is the new pandemic. Our new project, Tin Foil Confessions, is not just a podcast and book; it's a beacon of hope for those lost in the maze of conspiracism. It's a story of redemption, a guide back to reality, and a testament to the power of change. But to bring this project to life, to reach more people and make a greater impact, we need your support.So, we ask you, join us in this fight against the pandemic of misinformation. Help us illuminate the path for those seeking truth and clarity. Donate to https://www.tinfoilconfessions.com today and let's build a future grounded in reality, together.🔥🦉🔥 - Full transcript available at https://somedarecallitconspiracy.blogspot.com/2024/02/jon-ronson-interview-transcript.htmlJon Ronson on the Allure of Conspiracies and the Culture WarWelcome to an exclusive episode of 'Some Dare Call It Conspiracy,' where hosts Neil Sanders and Brent Lee navigate the murky waters of conspiracy theories with guest Jon Ronson, an accomplished author and documentarian. This discussion delved into Ronson's firsthand experiences with the controversial figure Alex Jones, the shifting landscape of the truth movement, and the thin line between skepticism and belief.Covid, Clots, and Conspiracy TheoriesRonson's personal health scare, contracting Covid-19 and later developing a blood clot, brings a sobering reality to the conversation. It highlights the tangible consequences of the pandemic, contrasting with the rampant Covid denial and misinformation that has infiltrated conspiracy circles. The discussion pivots to the pathological persistence of some conspiracy theorists who refuse to acknowledge their role in spreading harmful misinformation.Examining Alex Jones: A Turn of PerspectiveRonson provides a unique perspective on Alex Jones, painting a picture of a man who consistently doubles down on conspiracy theories, potentially for personal gain rather than seeking truth. His recount of the infamous Bohemian Grove event illustrates the complexities and the theatrics of conspiracy narratives. This segues into a discussion of how some figures within the conspiracy community, including Jones, monetize and weaponize uncertainty to their advantage.Cultural Wars and Class Struggles: The Role of Identity PoliticsThe podcast also touches on the cultural wars that are fueled by identity politics and class struggles. The hosts and Ronson debate how these divisive issues distract from the underlying socioeconomic inequalities that benefit the wealthy. They discuss the often-misunderstood or overstated elements of the culture war, designed to generate conflict and division.The Hero's Journey of Conspiracy TheoristsJoseph Campbell's hero's journey is a concept that resonates deeply with conspiracy theorists. Ronson's exploration of this narrative shows that many within the conspiracy community view themselves as reluctant heroes, engaged in an epic struggle against the perceived dragons of society, such as government overreach and hidden crimes.The Skeptic's Path: From Belief to DisillusionmentSanders and Lee, formerly firm believers in conspiracy theories, share their journeys towards skepticism. They explore the pivotal moments that altered their views, shedding light on the internal conflicts that challenge staunch conspiracy theorists. This transformation from believer to skeptic is rare in a community where doubling down is the norm, providing valuable insights into the psychology of belief systems.In the end, the conversation with Jon Ronson throws a spotlight on the complex, and often contradictory, world of conspiracy theories. Whether as pronounced heroes on a valiant quest or vilified purveyors of falsehoods, conspiracy theorists occupy a controversial space in the collective consciousness. 'Some Dare Call It Conspiracy' invites listeners to critically engage with these narratives and consider their profound impact on society.🔥🦉🔥Some Dare Call It Conspiracy is produced entirely by Brent Lee and Neil Sanders. Consider supporting us and get access to AD FREE episodes, exclusive Patreon only episodes, bonus content and an invitation to our private Discord server by joining our Patreon.www.patreon.com/somedarecallitconspiracyOr support us by subscribing, sharing, liking or leaving a review wherever you're listening to us!Please visit our website for all of our social media links, email address and various press clippings!www.somedarecallitconspiracy.com🔥🦉🔥Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/some-dare-call-it-conspiracy--5932731/support.Some Dare Call It ConspiracyAn investigative podcast hosted by Brent Lee and Neil Sanders.Website: https://www.somedarecallitconspiracy.comPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/somedarecallitconspiracyTwitter/X: https://x.com/somedarepodcastBluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/somedarepodcast.bsky.socialInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/somedarecallitconspiracyFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/somedarecallitconspiracyTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@somedarecallitconspiracyYouTube: https://youtube.com/@somedarecallitconspiracyContact: somedarecallitconspiracy@gmail.com

Feb 7, 2024 • 26min

Deep Dive • Chemtrails On Trial (8/8) With Ivor Mectin PHD

Jan 31, 2024 • 35min

Deep Dive • Chemtrails On Trial (7/8) With Ivor Mectin PHD

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