
Climate Risk Podcast
Hello and welcome to GARP’s Climate Risk Podcast series, where we will be investigating how climate change is impacting the world of business and finance and what this means for risk management.
Through the course of this series we will be bringing you insights from those working at the cutting edge of climate change. We will be joined by regulators, business leaders and risk practitioners who will help us build up a holistic view of the risks and opportunities that climate change poses and explore how this might affect you in your day to day work.
Latest episodes

Sep 5, 2024 • 35min
Uninsurable: The Future of Insurance in a Changing Climate
Hear from two leading experts, as we explore how insurance is adapting to climate change and the role of the industry beyond underwriting. Insurance plays a critical role in protecting households and businesses from the impacts of climate change, and with physical risks on the rise, it will become ever more important. However, insurers have also been significantly impacted by these risks, with annual losses from natural catastrophes exceeding 100 billion dollars for four consecutive years. The primary concern is that these physical risks eventually become uninsurable, as we are already seeing for example with wildfires in California, leaving communities without the very protection that they most need. In this episode, we explore how the insurance industry has and should respond to these challenges, including: How insurance modelling must evolve to better capture the physical risks from climate change; The role of insurers in helping clients and policymakers understand and prepare for physical climate risks; and Why adaptation is now a top priority for allowing insurance to be effective and help spread climate resilience across our society and economy. To find out more about the Sustainability and Climate Risk (SCR®) Certificate, follow this link: https://www.garp.org/scr For more information on climate risk, visit GARP’s Global Sustainability and Climate Risk Resource Center: https://www.garp.org/sustainability-climate If you have any questions, thoughts, or feedback regarding this podcast series, we would love to hear from you at: climateriskpodcast@garp.com Speaker’s Bio(s) Annemarie Büttner, Lead Climate Risk Solutions, Swiss Re Annemarie leads on corporate climate risk solutions at Swiss Re, helping companies identify, assess, reduce, and report the impacts of climate change to their businesses. She has 10-years’ experience focused on consulting and insurance, working on a range of topics including renewables, natural catastrophes, and parametric insurance. Swenja Surminski, Managing Director Climate and Sustainability, Marsh McLennan Swenja is the managing director of climate and sustainability at Marsh McLennan, as well as a Professor in Practice at the London School of Economics. In her career as an academic, Swenja researched climate risk management and resilience strategies, with a focus on public policies, financial instruments and individual behaviour. She has also held several advisory roles with corporates, regulatory authorities and governments, including the Bank of England and the World Bank.

Jul 25, 2024 • 32min
Urban Resilience: How Our Cities Must Adapt to Climate Change
Hear from Emma Howard Boyd CBE, Chair of the London Climate Resilience Review, as we dive into the challenges of climate adaptation and what it means for our cities. 2023 was not only the warmest year on record, it also marked the warmest 10-year period on record. As we witness first-hand the impacts of a warming climate, including heatwaves, more intense precipitation and increased flooding, the case for building resilience against these risks becomes ever more important. This is particularly so in our cities, where the concentration of populations and economic activity make adaptation non-negotiable. This episode’s guest has recently led a comprehensive review of the Climate Resilience of London, which takes stock of the city’s preparedness for climate impacts and makes a series of recommendations for how the city needs to bolster its efforts. In this episode, we explore: How cities are vulnerable to cascading and interconnected risks, which amplify the impacts of climate change; How a collaborative approach to learning and building resilience will be critical in the years ahead; And how adaptation and resilience need to be woven through our all our decision making, while paying particular attention to the most vulnerable communities To find out more about the Sustainability and Climate Risk (SCR®) Certificate, follow this link: https://www.garp.org/scr For more information on climate risk, visit GARP’s Global Sustainability and Climate Risk Resource Center: https://www.garp.org/sustainability-climate If you have any questions, thoughts, or feedback regarding this podcast series, we would love to hear from you at: climateriskpodcast@garp.com Links from today’s discussion: Read the final report of the London Climate Resilience Review: https://www.london.gov.uk/programmes-strategies/environment-and-climate-change/climate-change/climate-adaptation/london-climate-resilience-review C40 Cities Climate Leadership Group: https://www.c40.org/ Thames Estuary 2100 Group report directory: https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/thames-estuary-2100-te2100 Speaker’s Bio(s) Emma Howard Boyd, Chair, London Climate Resilience Review Emma has been the Chair of the London Climate Resilience Review, leading the delivery of its work since summer 2023. She has had an extensive career in financial services at the forefront of the climate change, environmental and sustainable finance agenda. Emma is also currently Chair of ClientEarth and a Global Ambassador for Race to Zero and Race to Resilience, and outgoing Chair of the Green Finance Institute. She has been Chair of the Environment Agency and an ex-officio board member of the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs from 2016 to 2022. Emma serves on several boards and advisory committees which include The Major Projects Association, Climate Arc, and the European Climate Foundation. She was the UK Commissioner to the Global Commission on Adaptation from 2018 until its sunset in January 2021.

Jul 16, 2024 • 17min
GARP’s Sustainability & Climate Risk Certificate: Register Now
In this special episode, hear from Tony Rooke, Executive Director at Howden Group Holdings and Beth Gould Creller, GARP’s Sustainability & Climate Risk Program Lead, as they discuss the recent improvements to the SCR’s syllabus and learning experience. Long-time listeners of the podcast will have noticed that we often mention GARP’s Sustainability & Climate Risk (SCR) Certificate. It’s a program that GARP launched in 2020, providing all the foundational knowledge you need to become a climate risk leader within your own firm. This episode is a special one, as we bring you a conversation between Beth Gould Creller, who heads up GARP’s SCR team, and Tony Rooke, who alongside his role at Howden, is a member of the SCR Advisory Committee and long-time supporter of the program. You’ll learn about: The latest update to the SCR Curriculum, including new topics like nature risk and transition plans; The enhanced e-learning platform, including practical, hands-on modules; And testimonials from candidates on how the certificate has advanced their skills and careers. The SCR certificate is not only an excellent opportunity to boost your knowledge, but it also connects you with a global community of climate risk experts, fostering collaboration and innovation. Register before 31st July to save USD $100. Follow this link to find out more: https://www.garp.org/scr For more information on climate risk, visit GARP’s Global Sustainability and Climate Risk Resource Center: https://www.garp.org/sustainability-climate If you have any questions, thoughts, or feedback regarding this podcast series, we would love to hear from you at: climateriskpodcast@garp.com Speaker’s Bio(s) Tony Rooke, Executive Director and Head of Transition Advisory, Howden Group Holdings Tony is Executive Director in the Climate Risk and Resilience team at Howden, and head of climate transition advisory. He helps organisations plan and achieve their climate goals, to identify and manage climate risks, and then optimise returns from their transition investments. Tony has over 25 years global experience in strategy advisory, risk management, disclosure and programme delivery, with over 18 years as a leader and expert in climate change, environment and sustainability issues affecting businesses and financial institutions. Prior to Howden, Tony was Head of Transition Finance and Transition Planning at the Glasgow Financial Alliance for Net Zero (GFANZ), Senior Director for Transition Risk at WTW, and Global Technical Director for the Carbon Disclosure Project (CDP), the world’s largest environmental disclosure platform. He has contributed to regulatory, policy and industry work including transition planning and transition finance standards (the UK’s Transition Planning Taskforce and GFANZ), the reporting standards (EU EFRAG, CDSB, CDP, TCFD), and strategic use of models, pathways and scenarios (International Energy Agency (IEA), NGFS, MPP, CFRF, GFANZ). Tony is a member of GARP and on Sustainability and Climate Risk (SCR) certification advisory committee. He is additionally a fellow of both the Institute of Environmental Management and Assessment (IEMA) and the Royal Society of Arts, Commerce and Manufacture (RSA). Beth Gould Creller, Sustainability & Climate Risk Program Lead, GARP Beth manages GARP's Sustainability and Climate Risk Program. Prior to joining GARP, she was a risk professional in the upstream oil and gas industry. Working across multiple continents, her energy career spanned enterprise risk management, internal audit, business controls, supply chain process improvement, and governance.

Jul 4, 2024 • 54min
Why NDCs Aren’t Working and How to Fix Them
Hear from Lord Adair Turner, Chair of the Energy Transitions Commission, as we explore the shortcomings of nationally determined contributions and how they might be improved. Nationally determined contributions, or NDCs, are a bit like transition plans for countries, in that they set out what a country plans to do in order to meet the ambitions of the Paris Agreement. However, NDCs are voluntary, and collectively they don’t currently have us on track to limit global warming to less than 2 degrees, let alone the more ambitious target of 1.5 degrees. Today’s guest believes that this is a problem, as NDCs are failing to provide a clear direction for action. The less clarity there is about policy direction and ambition, the less likely markets will respond to policy signals to deliver the investment required for the transition. That’s why in this episode, we examine: What are the shortcomings in countries’ NDCs and how they can be addressed? Why NDCs don’t currently reflect the rapid technological progress that is already being made across sectors; and How geopolitics is influencing the transition and the challenges facing climate finance. To find out more about the Sustainability and Climate Risk (SCR®) Certificate, follow this link: https://www.garp.org/scr For more information on climate risk, visit GARP’s Global Sustainability and Climate Risk Resource Center: https://www.garp.org/sustainability-climate If you have any questions, thoughts, or feedback regarding this podcast series, we would love to hear from you at: climateriskpodcast@garp.com Links from today’s discussion: Energy Transitions Commission: https://www.energy-transitions.org/ Credible Contributions: Bolder Plans for Higher Climate Ambition in the Next Round of NDCs: https://www.energy-transitions.org/publications/credible-contributions-bolder-plans-for-ndcs/ Mission Possible: Reaching net-zero carbon emissions from harder-to-abate sectors: https://www.energy-transitions.org/publications/mission-possible/ Climate Change Committee: https://www.theccc.org.uk/ Just Capital: The Liberal Economy: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/5859117-just-capital The Economics of Climate Change: The Stern Review: https://www.lse.ac.uk/granthaminstitute/publication/the-economics-of-climate-change-the-stern-review/ Finance for climate action: scaling up investment for climate and development: https://www.lse.ac.uk/granthaminstitute/publication/finance-for-climate-action-scaling-up-investment-for-climate-and-development/ Speaker’s Bio(s) Lord Adair Turner, Chair, Energy Transitions Commission Lord Turner chairs the Energy Transitions Commission, a global coalition of major power and industrial companies, investors, environmental NGOs and experts working out achievable pathways to limit global warming to well below 2˚C while stimulating economic development and social progress. Lord Turner has chaired several high-profile organizations, including at the Institute for New Economic Thinking, the UK’s Financial Services Authority, the Climate Change Committee, the Pensions Commission and the Low Pay Commission. He was also Director General of the Confederation of British Industry. He became a crossbench member of the House of Lords in 2006. He is also a Trustee Emeritus of the British Museum, honorary fellow of The Royal Society, and received an Honorary Degree from Cambridge University in 2017.

Jun 13, 2024 • 35min
Why Nature Belongs in Corporate Thinking
Hear from Robin Millington, CEO of Planet Tracker, as we discuss how and why businesses should be thinking about their dependencies and impacts on nature. Sustainability is a complex topic, and for a long time, climate has been at the heart of discussion. Other challenges like pollution and biodiversity loss have often been sidelined. Recently however, following the work of the TNFD and others, these issues have risen up the corporate agenda, within the wider context of our impact and dependency on nature. Throughout her career, this guest has highlighted the importance of integrating nature into mainstream business. In this episode, we’ll explore: The urgent need to manage climate and nature risks holistically; How our failure to value natural capital correctly is pressurizing the global food system and other key sectors; And the role that financial markets have in creating a nature-positive future. To find out more about the Sustainability and Climate Risk (SCR®) Certificate, follow this link: https://www.garp.org/scr For more information on climate risk, visit GARP’s Global Sustainability and Climate Risk Resource Center: https://www.garp.org/sustainability-climate If you have any questions, thoughts, or feedback regarding this podcast series, we would love to hear from you at: climateriskpodcast@garp.com Links from today’s discussion: Planet Tracker homepage: https://planet-tracker.org/ Carbon Tracker homepage: https://carbontracker.org/ The Financial Markets Roadmap for Transforming the Global Food System: https://planet-tracker.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Financial-Markets-Roadmap-for-transforming-the-Global-Food-System.pdf Speaker’s Bio Robin Millington, CEO, Planet Tracker Having dedicated nearly three decades to environmental causes including climate, biodiversity/nature and wetlands/water, Robin is an experienced senior director with an extensive track record including as a Director with the European Climate Foundation, Founding Director of Wetlands International and Managing Director of the Centre for European Policy Studies (CEPS) in Brussels. Previously she spent many years in the private sector both in consulting and in multinational work. She has an MBA from INSEAD and her BA from Stanford University. She is currently a member of the Supervisory Board of the Capitals Coalition, was previously a member of the Supervisory Board of the Gold Standard Foundation and serves on various advisory committees.

May 23, 2024 • 32min
Accelerating the Transition: Reflections of a Shareholder Activist
Hear from Catherine Howarth OBE, CEO of ShareAction, as we dive into the world of shareholder activism and how it can be used to guide institutional investors towards sustainable behaviours. Moving away from fossil fuels is unambiguously the most crucial step in the transition to a sustainable net-zero world. And yet, governments and institutional investors worldwide continue to heavily subsidise and invest in the fossil fuel industry. The longer we delay the transition, the greater the risks that we face. So, how can we break this cycle? Today’s guest has been focused on this and other sustainability issues throughout her career. That’s why in this episode, we’ll be exploring her world of shareholder activism, discussing: The toolkit for influencing institutional investors, including naming and shaming the worst performers; The different challenges when engaging with banks, insurers, and asset managers; And how shareholder activism can go beyond climate to create a more sustainable future for us all. To find out more about the Sustainability and Climate Risk (SCR®) Certificate, follow this link: https://www.garp.org/scr For more information on climate risk, visit GARP’s Global Sustainability and Climate Risk Resource Center: https://www.garp.org/sustainability-climate If you have any questions, thoughts, or feedback regarding this podcast series, we would love to hear from you at: climateriskpodcast@garp.com Links from today’s discussion: ShareAction’s homepage - https://shareaction.org/ Living Wage Foundation’s homepage - https://www.livingwage.org.uk/ Speaker’s Bio(s) Catherine Howarth OBE, CEO of ShareAction Catherine has been Chief Executive of ShareAction since July 2008. ShareAction is the leading civil society organisation in Europe promoting responsible investment, transparency and good governance by institutional investors. Catherine is a board member of the Scott Trust, owner of the Guardian Media Group, and a member of HM Treasury’s task force on asset management. She was a Member Nominated Trustee of The Pensions Trust (the multi-employer pension scheme for the UK’s not-for-profit sector) for five years, where she served on the Investment Committee of this £7bn fund. In 2011, Catherine was named a ‘Rising Star of Corporate Governance’ by Yale University’s Millstein Center, and in 2014 she was recognised by the World Economic Forum as a Young Global Leader in 2014. Catherine holds a First Class BA in Modern History from Oxford University and an MSc in Industrial Relations from the London School of Economics.

May 2, 2024 • 38min
AI, ESG and 1.5 Degrees: UNEP FI Reports at the Frontier of Climate Risk
Hear from David Carlin, Head of Risk at the UNEP Finance Initiative, as we dive into their latest reports covering the climate risk tool landscape, the use of AI in disclosures, and 1.5 degree warming scenarios. As the world’s leading authority on the environment, the United Nations Environment Programme (or UNEP), has a mission to inspire, inform, and enable nations and peoples to improve their quality of life, without compromising that of future generations. And, they recognise the critical role of the financial system in achieving this goal. Through UNEP FI – their Financial Initiative – they convene networks of banks, insurers and investors to help accelerate sustainable development, as well as manage the associated risks. Today’s guest is an energetic part of this network, helping financial firms tackle issues such as climate scenario analysis, climate risk assessments, and navigating the world of sustainability regulation. In this episode, we’ll explore some key insights from his work, including: · How the landscape of climate risk tools and analytics providers is changing, for example with the increased use of Machine learning and AI; · The challenges of translating the science of climate change to actionable insights for financial practitioners. · And our guests’ secrets for reaching 100,000 followers on LinkedIn to help drive awareness of these vitally important topics. To find out more about the Sustainability and Climate Risk (SCR®) Certificate, follow this link: https://www.garp.org/scr For more information on climate risk, visit GARP’s Global Sustainability and Climate Risk Resource Center: https://www.garp.org/sustainability-climate If you have any questions, thoughts, or feedback regarding this podcast series, we would love to hear from you at: climateriskpodcast@garp.com Links from today’s discussion: UNEPFI homepage – https://www.unepfi.org/ UNEPFI’s 2024 Climate Risk Landscape Report – https://www.unepfi.org/themes/climate-change/2024-climate-risk-landscape/ David Carlin’s LinkedIn page - https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-carlin7/ Speaker’s Bio David Carlin, Head of Risk, United Nations Environment Programme Finance Initiative (UNEPFI) David and his team support financial actors across the world to develop best practices for managing environmental risks and identifying environmental opportunities. Alongside his current role, David advises the Task Force on Nature-related Financial Disclosures (TNFD) and the Net-Zero Banking Alliance (NZBA) and is the founder of Cambium Global Solutions, which helps governments, corporations, and financial institutions address environmental challenges. Prior to his current role, David worked as a Principal in Finance, Risk, and Public Policy for Oliver Wyman.

Apr 11, 2024 • 35min
The Psychology of Climate Change: How to Build Consensus through Communication
Hear from George Marshall, Author of “Don’t Even Think About It: Why Our Brains Are Wired To Ignore Climate Change,” as we dive into the psychology of climate change. If you follow this podcast, you probably already have a good understanding of the nature of climate change, the risks it poses and why we need to act decisively and with urgency. But many people don’t listen to the podcast, and even if they did, they might think it was a lot of nonsense. Depending on people’s worldview, values, and socio-cultural background, the same message can be interpreted in many ways. That’s why in today’s episode, we’re focusing on the psychology of climate change. We’ll be exploring questions such as: · What is it about the human brain that makes it so hard for us to accept the reality of climate change and take steps to address it? · How is it possible that, when presented with overwhelming evidence of climate change, even the evidence of our own eyes, we can still choose to ignore it? · And given our biases and shortcomings, how can we still find effective ways to communicate the dangers of climate change to audiences that are typically closed off to receiving those messages? To find out more about the Sustainability and Climate Risk (SCR®) Certificate, follow this link: https://www.garp.org/scr For more information on climate risk, visit GARP’s Global Sustainability and Climate Risk Resource Center: https://www.garp.org/sustainability-climate If you have any questions, thoughts, or feedback regarding this podcast series, we would love to hear from you at: climateriskpodcast@garp.com Speaker’s Bio George Marshall, Author and Climate Change Communication Expert George is a consultant in the public communication of climate change, and the psychological obstacles to attitude and behaviour change. His key interest is the design of narratives that can build a consensus for climate action across the whole of society. His insights draw on hundreds of focus groups and structured interviews listening to people expressing their hopes, fears and doubts about climate change. His book “Don’t Even Think About It: Why Our Brains Are Wired to Ignore Climate Change”, explores the social and psychological obstacles to climate action. It is currently on its seventh printing and was listed by Esquire as one of the ‘15 essential books on climate change.’

Mar 21, 2024 • 38min
Five Times Faster: Ways to Accelerate the Transition to Net-Zero
Hear from Simon Sharpe, Director of Economics at the UNFCCC Climate Champions, as we explore three key problems that are impeding the transition to net-zero and how to address them. We know that reaching net zero emissions quickly enough to avoid the worst impacts of climate change will be very challenging. But are we making it even more difficult than it needs to be? Today’s guest thinks so, particularly when it comes to climate science, economics, and climate diplomacy. That’s why in today’s episode, we’ll be looking at how we could make all three work more effectively. We’ll explore: · How climate science must change in order to generate meaningful action within our political institutions; · How economists became overly fixated on carbon pricing, while missing other policies that would be even more impactful in accelerating the transition to net zero; · And how the current model of climate diplomacy could be altered to allow for faster net zero negotiations. To find out more about the Sustainability and Climate Risk (SCR®) Certificate, follow this link: https://www.garp.org/scr For more information on climate risk, visit GARP’s Global Sustainability and Climate Risk Resource Center: https://www.garp.org/sustainability-climate If you have any questions, thoughts, or feedback regarding this podcast series, we would love to hear from you at: climateriskpodcast@garp.com Speaker’s Bio Simon Sharpe, Director of Economics, UNFCCC Climate Champions Simon took up his current role in early 2022, having previously held several senior positions in the UK government, including as Deputy Director of the COP26 Unit, and as Head of Climate Change Strategy for both the Foreign, Commonwealth & Development Office, and the Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy. In 2013-15, he created an international climate change risk assessment project, working with experts from the UK, USA, China, India, and other countries. In addition to influencing the understanding and assessment of climate change risk in its partner countries, its findings were extensively cited by the Scientific Advisory Board of the UN Secretary General. It also inspired new thinking in the academic community, with a lead author of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change using it to argue that ‘climate science needs to take risk assessment much more seriously’. More recently, he has worked with partners in the UK, China, India and Brazil to create the world’s first government-backed project to apply complexity economics to climate change. His paper on economic tipping points, ‘Upward-scaling tipping cascades to meet climate goals: plausible grounds for hope’, was the most downloaded paper in Climate Policy journal in 2021. Simon has published influential reports and created ground-breaking international projects in climate change risk assessment, economics, and diplomacy. His recent book, “Five Times Faster,” draws from Simon’s ten years’ experience at the forefront of climate change policy and diplomacy.

Feb 29, 2024 • 34min
The Inevitable Policy Response Forecast: Optimistic or Realistic?
Hear from Dr. Jakob Thomae, Project Director for the Inevitable Policy Response, as we discuss their latest forecast and what it means for the transition to net-zero. Scenario analysis is the natural tool for anyone wanting to understand how climate-related risks might evolve over coming decades. The vast majority of climate scenarios, regardless of who produced them or what level of warming they predict, tend to report similar levels of physical risk over the next couple of decades or so. However, predictions about transition risk tend to be quite different between scenarios. This episode focuses in on the transition, and in particular the extraordinary work being done by the Inevitable Policy Response (IPR) to figure out the most likely course of the transition to net zero. We’ll explore: · The IPR’s surprisingly optimistic forecast, and they believe the world might look like by the end of the century; · The methodology behind their forecast, and how it differs from the scenarios produced by other groups; and · What this forecast means for risk and finance professionals. To find out more about the Sustainability and Climate Risk (SCR®) Certificate, follow this link: https://www.garp.org/scr For more information on climate risk, visit GARP’s Global Sustainability and Climate Risk Resource Center: https://www.garp.org/sustainability-climate If you have any questions, thoughts, or feedback regarding this podcast series, we would love to hear from you at: climateriskpodcast@garp.com Links from today’s discussion: The Inevitable Policy Response: https://ipr.transitionmonitor.com/ Theia Finance Labs (formerly known as the 2° Investing Initiative): https://theiafinance.org/ Jakob’s first book, ‘The Kill Score: On the Trail of Our Ecological and Social Footprint’: https://rb.gy/ydnxvu Paris Agreement Capital Transition Assessment (PACTA): https://pacta.rmi.org/ The International Energy Agency (IEA): https://www.iea.org/ How Bad are Bananas? by Mike Berners-Lee: https://howbadarebananas.com/ Jakob’s second book, ‘The Little Book of Big Risks: From Atomic Bombs to a Zombie Apocalypse’: https://rb.gy/8lk1no Speaker’s Bio Dr. Jakob Thomae, Project Director, Inevitable Policy Response Jakob Thomae is one of the leading global experts on sustainable finance and long-term risks. In June 2023, Jakob was appointed Project Director for the Inevitable Policy Response (IPR), a climate transition forecasting consortium commissioned by the Principles for Responsible Investment. The IPR helps investors navigate the risks and opportunities arising from climate policy acceleration, volatility and transition. Jakob is the co-founder of Theia Finance Labs (formerly known as the 2° Investing Initiative) where he currently serves as Research Director. Jakob is also Professor in Practice at SOAS, University of London, where he teaches a Green Finance course. His recent book "The Kill Score” explores the impact of sustainability on human lives. Jakob has served as advisor to central banks around the world including the Japanese Financial Services Agency, the Brazilian Central Bank, the Bank of Thailand, the Bank of England, the Bundesbank, the Dutch Central Bank, and EIOPA. He holds a PhD in Finance from the Conservatoire National des Arts et Metiers.
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