
Apple News In Conversation
Apple News In Conversation with Shumita Basu brings you interviews with some of the world’s best journalists and experts about the stories that impact our lives. Join us every week as we go behind the headlines.
Latest episodes

Feb 22, 2024 • 27min
The WNBA is building something — and it’s not just the women’s version of the NBA
Guest-hosted by David Greene: Sheryl Swoopes, often called the “female Michael Jordan,” was the first player signed to the WNBA. Her story is featured in the new documentary Shattered Glass: A WNBPA Story, which takes a look at how far the league has come since Swoopes’s early days — and what today’s pro athletes say they still need from the league. Guest host David Greene spoke with Swoopes and the film’s director, Andrea Buccilla.

Feb 15, 2024 • 22min
Former elite gymnast Maggie Nichols speaks out about Larry Nassar’s abuse
Guest-hosted by David Greene: Maggie Nichols was the first athlete on the national team to report former USA Gymnastics doctor Larry Nassar’s sexual abuse to the organization in June 2015. A year later, she was not selected for the U.S. Olympic team. She spoke with guest host David Greene about her new memoir, Unstoppable!
Warning: This episode includes descriptions of sexual violence and restrictive eating.

Feb 9, 2024 • 32min
Why America is obsessed with the NFL
Guest-hosted by David Greene: The NFL accounted for 93 of the top 100 U.S. broadcasts in 2023, according to Nielsen ratings. But not that long ago, the league was reeling from controversies around head injuries, allegations of racism in its hiring practices, and players protesting police brutality. To better understand the NFL’s staying power, Apple News In Conversation guest host David Greene spoke with sports journalist Pablo Torre, host of the podcast Pablo Torre Finds Out. They dig into the league’s ups and downs, America’s obsession with football, and the Taylor Swift effect.

Feb 1, 2024 • 24min
College sports are a multibillion-dollar business. Why aren’t athletes getting a cut?
Kevin Blackistone, ESPN panelist and Washington Post columnist, discusses the financial benefits received by college athletic directors compared to the lack of compensation for athletes. The podcast explores the racial dynamics of college sports, proposes solutions such as separate business models for football and basketball, and emphasizes the need to support the well-being of college athletes.

Jan 25, 2024 • 31min
Inside the mind of one of the New Yorker’s most iconic cartoonists
Roz Chast, a celebrated figure in the cartoon world, talks about her distinctive style and humor. Topics include following artistic intuition, popularity of New Yorker cartoons, and her collection of canned goods.

Jan 18, 2024 • 35min
“There is a government cover-up around UFOs. It’s just not the one that you think.”
Garrett Graff, a national-security reporter, shares his findings from his book 'UFO: The Inside Story of the US Government's Search for Alien Life Here — and Out There'. He explores the history of UFO sightings, categorizes different types of sightings, discusses the probability of alien life and contact, exposes government cover-ups, and emphasizes preserving our planet and fostering curiosity.

Jan 11, 2024 • 29min
How the evangelical church became so political, according to a pastor’s son
Journalist Tim Alberta discusses the increasing politicization of the evangelical church in his latest book. He explores the intertwining of religion and politics, the rise of pastors preaching Christian nationalism, and the reasons behind evangelical support for Donald Trump. Alberta also discusses the generational clash within the church and reflects on the purpose of the church in spreading the gospel of Jesus Christ.

Jan 4, 2024 • 32min
Esther Perel on the real reasons couples fight
Esther Perel, relationship expert, shares insights on the true motivations behind couples' fights and the challenges of modern love. She explores the unrealistic expectations in relationships today and offers tips for resolving disagreements. The importance of embracing contradictions in relationships and navigating parenthood with a supportive community is also discussed.

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Dec 28, 2023 • 29min
Rebroadcast: Your brain is hardwired to resist change. Here’s how to retrain it.
Shankar Vedantam, host of Hidden Brain, discusses how our brains resist change and offers strategies to embrace change as opportunities. Topics include talking about grief and death, finding purpose in career decisions, navigating major life transitions, the power of self-compassion, and making promises to our future selves.

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Dec 21, 2023 • 34min
Rebroadcast: ‘The Office’ star Rainn Wilson on how to let go of resentment and find happiness
Rainn Wilson, actor and author of Soul Boom: Why We Need a Spiritual Revolution, explores spirituality and its role in finding joy, despite struggles with mental health. He discusses the pursuit of happiness in Iceland through his docuseries, 'The Geography of Bliss'. The power of gratitude is emphasized as a tool to combat resentment and rewire the brain. Wilson also highlights the significance of daily routines, spirituality, and building community to discover meaning and purpose in life.
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