

Two Texts
John Andrews and David Harvey
A Podcast about the Bible Every two weeks, from two different countries, the two hosts of the Two Texts podcast pick two biblical texts to talk about. Each episode we pick one text to talk about, which invariably leads to us talking about two texts and often many more.Dr John Andrews and Dr David Harvey share a mutual fascination with the Bible. Simple yet complex; ancient yet relevant; challenging yet comforting. But one thing that fascinates them consistently is that, like a kaleidoscope, no matter how many times they look at it there is something new, fresh and exciting to talk about.This podcast is designed for you regardless of how much or how little you've read the Bible. Grab a hot beverage, a notepad (or app), and a Bible, sit back, listen, enjoy, and learn to also become fascinated (or grow your fascination) with this exciting, compelling and mysterious book. John and David are two friends who love teaching the Bible and have both been privileged enough to be able to spend their careers doing this - in colleges, universities, churches, homes and coffee shops. The two of them have spent extended periods of time as teaching staff and leadership in seminary and church contexts. John has regularly taught at David's church, and there was even a point where John was David's boss! Nowadays David is a Priest and Pastor in Calgary, Canada, and John teaches and consults for churches in the UK and around the world. They're both married with children (John 3, David 1) and in John's case even grandchildren. In their down time you'll find them cooking, reading, running or watching football (but the one thing they don't agree on is which team to support). If you want to get in touch with either of them about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend?
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Apr 30, 2024 • 39min
Athens on Trial | Disruptive Presence 91
Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply)In which John and David peel back the layers of Paul's engagement with Greek thinkers, using their own religious and cultural touchstones to introduce Jesus and the Gospel.As we unravel the nuances of Paul's argument, we ponder his approach in adapting scriptural teachings for a polytheistic audience. We explore his use of the Athenians' altar to the 'unknown God' to pivot to a discussion on how this was the God he wanted to introduce to them. With a touch of scholarly critique and reflection, we also address the human condition of searching for the divine. This discussion opens up a compassionate view of spiritual hunger and the human attempts to grasp the divine, even when shrouded in ignorance. Through Paul's personal revelations, we explore the notion of divine intimacy—how it's not about our efforts to know God, but the transformative power of being known by Him. Episode 146 of the Two Texts Podcast | Disruptive Presence 91If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend?Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021________Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others. However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love. Thank you so much.Support the show

Apr 18, 2024 • 37min
Babbling about Resurrection | Disruptive Presence 90
Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply)In which John and David consider the insults or comments made about Paul by the Athenians. Ever wondered how a man branded a "babbler" by ancient intellectuals could spark a spiritual revolution? We consider the opposition that Paul encountered, dissecting the term "babbler" and its implications for his message. The often-misinterpreted Greek word "spermalogos" serves as a window into the challenges of maintaining the essence of faith amidst a sea of competing ideologies, and our exploration reveals just how crucial unaltered messages are to the fabric of belief.We uncover the subtleties embedded in the language used to convey divinity and strangeness. Our discussion touches on Paul’s strategic adaptability, his tailored engagements in synagogues, marketplaces, and on Mars Hill, and the rich insights from early church fathers like John Chrysostom and Basil the Great. They invite a pause in the hustle to truly encounter God. This episode an invitation to reflect on the divine in an ever-distracting world, challenging us to find God's rightful place in our own lives.Episode 145 of the Two Texts Podcast | Disruptive Presence 90If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend?Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021________Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others. However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love. Thank you so much.Support the show

Apr 16, 2024 • 43min
Confronting Idolatry in Athens | Disruptive Presence 89
Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply)In which John and David explore the Apostle Paul's reaction to his visit to Athens where he boldly confronted idolatry and introduced the early Christian gospel. Athens, with its pantheon of gods and penchant for debate, provided unusual ground for Paul's missionary zeal. We consider his emotional turmoil amid the city's idols, contrasting it with the Athenian culture of "endless" discussion, and spotlight the active, practice-oriented nature of Judeo-Christian teaching.Contrasting Athens with the biblical narrative of creation as a divine temple in which humanity was meant to serve as the image of God, we explore the irony of idolatry, where humanity's aspiration to be godlike usurps the very role designed for them. We ponder Paul's theological convictions, honed by his Jewish heritage and life-changing encounter with Christ, which fueled his reaction to the idol worship he found in Greece. We contrast the pursuit of intellectual acceptance with the radical Christian message of resurrection, a concept met with skepticism by those unguided by the Spirit. As we juxtapose the narratives of Athens and Corinth, join us for this compelling exploration of the meeting of faith and reason in the heart of ancient philosophy.Episode 144 of the Two Texts Podcast | Disruptive Presence 89If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend?Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021________Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others. However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love. Thank you so much.Support the show

Apr 4, 2024 • 35min
Resilient Voices | Disruptive Presence 88
Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply)John and David trace the steps of Paul and Silas, venturing through Thessalonica's tension-filled streets into the welcoming community of Berea. Our latest episode unravels the stark contrasts these early Christian evangelists encountered, from vehement opposition to heartfelt acceptance. Act 17 reveals the strategic moves and the unwavering resolve behind the spread of a message that would echo through millennia.Their resilience of these missionaries leads to powerful encounters with diverse voices and surprising reactions to the faith. We dissect the varied receptions to the Gospel, celebrating the Bereans' intellectual curiosity and musing on the transformation spurred by an open heart and mind.We reflect on the profound sacrifices of Paul and the emotional landscape he traversed to share his convictions with the world. Through examining these pillars of Christianity, we gain a deeper understanding of the tenacity and passion that fueled the early Church's growth, illuminating our own paths of faith and commitment.Episode 143 of the Two Texts Podcast | Disruptive Presence 88If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend?Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021________Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others. However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love. Thank you so much.Support the show

Apr 2, 2024 • 41min
Either Riot or Revival | Disruptive Presence 87
Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply)In which John and David wonder about how the early Christians navigated the tension between their revolutionary faith and the power of the Roman Empire? We traverse the ancient roads of Paul and Silas, unpacking their strategic mission through cities like Amphipolis, Apollonia, and Thessalonica. Each move a vivid tapestry showing how the early mission work encountered either revival or riot perhaps due to ts radical challenge to the saying "Caesar is Lord."Amidst the tales of travel and transformation, we tackle the contentious and divisive nature of Jesus' identity as both Messiah and King. The message of the cross clashes with conventional wisdom, and we dissect the implications of such a declaration. Paul's teachings stir hearts and upend societal norms, a theme that reverberates through our discussion. We grapple with the early Christian community's delicate dance of faith under Roman scrutiny, and what it means to pledge allegiance to a higher power when earthly thrones loom large.Our journey through the Book of Acts is both intimate and grandiose, revealing the humanity behind the divine narrative. We delve into the paradox of Jesus as a source of both peace and disruption, examining how his followers were accused of "upsetting the world." The stories of Lydia, Jason, and other believers add a personal touch to the movement's trials and triumphs. We invite you to reflect on the profound impact of the Gospel on a society caught between the hope of a coming kingdom and the reality of an agitated present.Episode 142 of the Two Texts Podcast | Disruptive Presence 87If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend?Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021________Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others. However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love. Thank you so much.Support the show

Mar 20, 2024 • 37min
Rights, Redemption, and Reconciliation | Disruptive Presence 86
Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply)In which John and David consider Paul and Silas being unjustly locked away, only to turn the tables with a bold assertion of their rights upon release. They demand justice post-imprisonment, reminding us of the dignified stance of Nelson Mandela upon his own release. This episode isn't just another biblical narrative; it's a deep exploration of the cultural and social responsibilities that early Christians juggled, and it's a story that resonates with today's discussions about civil rights and personal agency. Join us as we explore these historical moments, and the powerful statement they make about standing up for justice within the framework of faith.We then shift gears to a heartfelt examination of forgiveness and accountability, inspired by modern-day parallels like the recovery steps of Alcoholics Anonymous. As we navigate the complexities of true repentance versus superficial apologies, our conversation challenges you to consider the transformative power of owning one's mistakes. We discuss the delicate balance of forgiveness and making amends, emphasizing the need to protect the integrity of the Gospel through transparent acts of grace. This episode promises an engaging and thought-provoking journey through the significance of these acts and their potential to transform communities.Episode 141 of the Two Texts Podcast | Disruptive Presence 86If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend?Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021________Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others. However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love. Thank you so much.Support the show

Mar 19, 2024 • 42min
Salvation as a Divine Gift | Disruptive Presence 85
Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply)In which John and David embark on an exploration of faith and transformation in our latest episode, continuing to focus on the gripping narrative of Acts 16, where the Holy Spirit’s influence in the early church is unmistakable. Together, we keep unravelling the story of Paul, Silas, and a Roman jailer whose life is forever changed, reflecting on the intersection of the Good Samaritan's parable and the compelling themes of both spiritual and physical liberation.As we wrestle with the jailer's poignant question, "What must I do to be saved?" we delve into the tension between the pursuit of salvation and the gospel's declaration that salvation is a gift of grace. Our conversation explores the heart of the gospel message, where actions are not the path to salvation, but instead, it is through trust that we embrace the work already done. This episode is a journey into the very essence of Christian grace, as seen through the eyes of the early believers, revealing the instant and egalitarian nature of God's gift of salvation — a concept that remains as radical and transformative today as it was millennia ago.Diving into the sacraments, we discuss how the early church grappled with the intricacies of faith and practice, specifically the act of baptism, and how these traditions have evolved over the centuries. Our dialogue offers a deeper understanding of how tangible expressions of faith, like baptism and communion, serve as vital reminders of our spiritual convictions. We close with our heartfelt thanks to our listeners and supporters, who make these enriching discussions possible, inviting you to immerse yourself in an episode that celebrates faith's timeless practices and the enduring power of the gospel.Episode 140 of the Two Texts Podcast | Disruptive Presence 85If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend?Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021________Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others. However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love. Thank you so much.Support the show

Mar 7, 2024 • 32min
From Dungeon to Devotion | Disruptive Presence 84
Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply)In which David and John unravel the story of a first-century jailer whose encounter with Paul and Silas turned despair into hope. We reflect on this profound event recorded in Acts 16, where economic turmoil and spiritual darkness are pierced by the radiant light of the Gospel. The episode traverses the emotional landscape of the jailer's transformation, scrutinizing the metaphorical 'calling for lights' as a universal yearning for enlightenment. We bridge the ancient narrative with contemporary resonances, acknowledging how deeply this story touches our own lives and compels our own awakening.We also explore the echoes of household salvation, from Lydia's conversion to the baptism of the jailer's entire family, showcasing the Gospel's inclusive reach. Through the lens of the original Greek text, we scrutinize the weighty significance of the name of Jesus in the salvation story. We envisage the jailer and his family, years later, gathered to hear Paul's letter to the Philippians, realizing the seeds of faith planted in that dark cell bore fruit in an enduring Christian fellowship. This episode uncovers the transformation that occurs when the message of hope is not only heard but embraced, challenging us to consider the lasting impact of faith on our lives and communities.Episode 139 of the Two Texts Podcast | Disruptive Presence 84If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend?Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021________Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others. However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love. Thank you so much.Support the show

Mar 5, 2024 • 30min
Midnight Prayers and Unfathomable Grace | Disruptive Presence 83
Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply)In which David and John recount the stirring tale of Paul and Silas's imprisonment, their midnight prayers, and an earthquake that spells not just physical liberation but a profound spiritual awakening. Our conversation ventures into the heart of their story in Acts 16, exploring themes of faith, resilience, and the unexpected ways grace can manifest in our lives. As we consider their unyielding worship within stone walls, we invite you to ponder the depth of your own convictions and the strength you draw upon in your darkest hours.Together we peel back the layers of this biblical event, examining the influence of spiritual practices and the Holy Spirit in guiding responses to adversity. We share personal experiences that remind us of the prayers of Paul and Silas, and the peace that comes from immersing oneself in scripture. The ripple effects of their unwavering devotion, reaching even the hearts of fellow prisoners, are contemplated with a blend of curiosity and reverence. Listen in as we discuss the transformative power of night watch prayers and uncover the enduring impact of unfathomable grace on a jailer's household.Episode 138 of the Two Texts Podcast | Disruptive Presence 83If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend?Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021________Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others. However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love. Thank you so much.Support the show

Feb 22, 2024 • 36min
Liberation and Disruption | Disruptive Presence 82
Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply)In which John and David considered the ripple effects of spiritual awakening on societal norms and economic systems? Our latest episode on Acts 16 delves the stories of faith that disrupted commerce and challenged cultural customs. We start by contrasting the experiences of two women: Lydia, whose conversion becomes a beacon of hope, and an unnamed young slave in Philippi, whose liberation from possession causes economic turmoil for her masters. This tale of two conversions invites us to reflect on the broader implications of the gospel's power, as it both liberates and upends the status quo.Join us as we navigate the often overlooked tension between devout Christian practices and entrenched societal traditions. We ponder the adaptability of the early Christians, who found sacred spaces for worship in the most ordinary of places, from riverbanks to the home of Lydia. Through thoughtful dialogue, we question what constitutes a true gathering in faith and urge listeners to discern the essence of gospel truth amidst often distracting cultural practices. Our conversation takes a turn as we explore how the early church's flexibility in worship may offer insights for our own contemporary faith communities.The episode culminates in an exploration of spiritual freedom and its contrast with worldly entanglement. We delve into the symbolism of the marketplace in Paul's teachings, understanding redemption as an emancipation from the market of sin. As we discuss Paul and Silas's imprisonment, our narrative draws a parallel to Christ's own suffering on the cross and how their struggles and triumphs resonate with our own paths to spiritual freedom.Episode 137 of the Two Texts Podcast | Disruptive Presence 82If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend?Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021________Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show Support the show


